No ladies and gentlemen he is not asleep he is actually getting ready to go to Ireland because that is Bellator coming up soon and he’s gonna sit there and wear those glasses given to him by the Energizer boys my man what’s happening we got some fights to talk about. It was no chair. You FC. There was a lot of no chase winning the night. The night was crazy. Had all kinds of stuff happening. What’d you think? I thought it was um, I thought it was it. What’d you ask? Would you, what I thought then if you didn’t want me to answer it, it was a, there was a couple of good fights. There was a couple not so, they weren’t great. And then there was just some, I think more just a lot of conversation and negative talk, I think, from whether commentary, whether from just overall, just, I don’t know. Are you saying the dominant crews can not let something go? I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that. No, it was good though. There was some good fights. You know, like the back and forths, the close fights, those type of things, they can get a little frustrating to watch because you wanna see a little bit more action, but there’s a lot of strategy involved. They’re not pulling the trigger. They are pulling the trigger. One person’s gotta go for it. Otherwise, they’re gonna probably lose a close decision. They’re both thinking in their mind, one’s okay with not going for it and just kinda seeing what happens. The other person wants to get after it. There’s a lot of back and forth. I mean, you want something more to happen, But you know how much is on the line with the titles on the line when there’s but man there was some I’ll express my frustration with some of them, but then I’ll also get a lot of love for a lot You know for some other ones, but uh before we get started though Go to Wayne in merch calm Wayne in merch calm pick up some of our apparel there Go to only fans comm slash Wayne and subscribe to us over there. It is free We are offering all our extra content on only fans comm slash Wayne and it is free to subscribe to us over there Um, John, let’s go ahead and start breaking down this fight, man. Let’s talk right about it. Um, the very first one, Alexa Grosso and Valentina Shishanko, like what were your thoughts going into that fifth round? Was it a tie? Was it tied to two in your mind? I had it tied to two. Okay. I did. I thought, uh, going in, I thought the fourth round was close, but I thought that, uh, if you were looking at it, Grasso did just a little bit better. the had a little bit harder shots but it was a close fight you go back and Valentina won the first round Grasso won the second round Valentina wins the third round and it was a back-and-forth battle with you know who was landing the better shots even when Grasso put Valentina down in the second round I think it was she was off balance too it was a good shot it was a good right hand but she was already going backwards and so it just put her back that’s why she did the role she gets up and she did a good job of defending herself right up But you got to give it to Grasso. It’s the, the difference being in this. And I don’t know when you’re, when you’re watching it, if you’re thinking the same thing, but Grasso gets hit, she absorbs the shots better than Valentina Shevchenko. She takes a big shot and makes it like it’s nothing. She took big shots to the body. She took some kicks to the body. Josh, you know, when you get hit with a damn kick that’s open, your arm misses it. It hits your ribs. I don’t give a shit if it’s the toes, the, the top of your foot, the shin, it all hurts. You feel it. And she, you know, just walked right through it. Like, you know, it didn’t, didn’t even give ground, didn’t take time to step back and take a breath. And I was like, man, I’ll tell you what she takes a big shot. She takes a hard shot. She just keeps on coming. And she did that throughout the fight. She got hit with the jab repeatedly. I thought that was one of the best weapons that Valentina had, but she handled it well. You know, it made Valentina win rounds. No doubt about it. And I thought Valentina is grappling, you know, Grasso has gotten so much better with her grappling because Valentina used to really dominate people, you know, on the ground. She was known as a striker, but she was really good with her ground. And Alexa Grasso nullified a lot of what she did. There were moments where you can take a look and say, well, Shevchenko was trying to put submissions on Grasso. There was moments that Grasso was trying to put submissions on Shevchenko, but when it got to the end of the fourth round, I thought they had an even fight. Now when you say even, it’s even on the scorecards. I would say within those four rounds, if I was just going to, you know, utilize something like one does or pride used to and say, you know what? I think that one fighter’s a little bit ahead of the other. I would have said, Chefchenko was a little bit ahead with, you know, the scoring that she did, but it was even on the scorecards the way, you know, it is under the unified rules. And going into the fifth round, I thought that Valentina was looking very good for the first three minutes, three and a half minutes. She was doing very well. She was landing that jab. She was the one controlling the fight. She was ahead until she made the same kind of mistake. You know, she did the spinning thing was the spinning back kick that got her in trouble in the first fight. And this one, she goes, you know, she grabs a hold of the head. You see Grasso slip that in as soon as that head slips out and she’s got her back and it was all downhill if you’re going to say for Shevchenko from that point, you know, she didn’t land anything. She didn’t do anything good as far as there was nothing for her. She was put into submission positions. The submissions didn’t work, you know, she took shots and from that point it was all Alexa Grasso to the end of the round. The real question is, do I give that round a 10 eight? No, I don’t. I don’t, I don’t see that as a, as a score in this. And I see when you’re looking at, you know, judges and what they’re looking at, there’s, you know, differences in rounds. And so that first round, it’s a close round, but it go, I had to go into Shevchenko. Second round, a little bit disparaging because you had the knockdown, even though I, I think it was more off balance, but it hurt her. There was times when you saw Shevchenko get hurt in that fight, and the second round was one of them. But a little bit better than the first round, but you can’t give it a 10-8, you know? And I think by the end of that fight, Mike Bell is the judge that gave the 10-8. He was looking, saying that, you know what? She was close to putting her away with that, and that’s why he gives her the 10-8. I don’t agree with it. I don’t think it was a 10 eight, but I thought it was clear that it was Alexa Crasso that wins that round. Even though Shevchenko, I don’t care how much time you’re winning the round. It’s how much are you winning it by? And you could lose a round that you win four and a half minutes of in 30 seconds. You could end up losing that round based upon damage taken shots, taken zero offense, and you’re getting blitzed. I thought the chevchenko lost that round and I would have given it to Alexa Grasso and I would have had a grass Oh winning the fight So you had it one for Valentina two for a Grasso no one three for Valentina and two four for a Grasso god Okay, I was did I get to three I? Said two was grass alright, and okay anyway you said you had one four for Valentina Yeah, no, I said one. I said you had round one for as in for her Okay, so Everything I said, I think everything you said was pretty on point man. Good job John way to cover it. Thank you Good. We don’t move on next fight. No, it was I thought she um About Valentina seemed like she was the faster fighter the more certifier the one that was pushing on the pace a little bit trying to get in her grill. What I was very impressed by was Alexa Grosso’s almost like stoic face where she just didn’t seem fazed by anything that was going on. Come on, dude, you gotta admit. Yeah. Some of those shots were hard and she just walked through them. There was a moment there where I think in the end of the first, she had got taken down and she had the double chest wrap kind of, but she was in her guard. And you could tell that she was just holding the position and trying to figure out what she needed to get done or what kind of Valentina was gonna give her. But the camera hit right on her face and there was no expression. Not like, you know, I’m trying to hold no tension, nothing. I don’t know, I have never met Alexa Grasso, but she seems like someone who is just not there to fuck around. She’s a savage. Yeah. There’s no doubt she’s got that thing about her that she has that inner fire that I’m just gonna be here till I fuck you up. Yeah, it’s a really weird, I don’t know, I guess sometimes I’ve seen it from guys. Guys, some guys have that little bit of a, you know, they’re just, that’s the way they are. But I haven’t seen it from a female fighter that has been that way. It just seems like there’s nothing really that bothers them. They just kinda come out and just do their thing. there. I don’t know. She just she has she has something going on. It’s just driving her and pushing her. And where I saw the difference last night was, even though Valentina was looking like she was landing the she was landing some good shots, they never looked like they landed as hard as Alexa Grasso’s. Alexa Grasso also, she would take the shot and still move her head and keep boxing. And so after she got hit, it was almost like Valentina expected her to kind of wilt and step away. Where Alexa, she got hit and then she just threw her combination anyways, like a boxer would. I got hit a little bit. It’s okay. I’m going to keep throwing my combination and that combination landed and that was the last thing the judges saw. And Valentina didn’t absorb, like you said, she didn’t absorb the shots as well as Alexa Grosso did. Every time she got hit, it pushed her back. It made her take a step back. It made her circle left to right. I mean, that’s a very, that’s a very smart fight IQ on Valentina Shipchenko’s part, but that’s The last thing I see from a judge, as a judge, in the exchange between the two of you, you hit a good jab. Sure, that snapped her head back, but then she hit you with a two piece. I’m going to go with the person that hit you with the two piece, especially the one that made you go backwards. And so she then became the one dictating the pace of the fight, which every time I’m watching the fight, I’m like, no, Valentina’s dictating the pace of the fight. She’s stepping forward. She’s sticking the jab in the face. But Alexa Grasso was making her move and hitting her with some good hard shots. It was, it was a weird, it was a weird and hard fight for me to judge because Alexa didn’t do as much. She didn’t seem as active, but when she did land, it seemed like it landed effectively and it made Valentina take a step back. Um, I thought the two of them fought their asses off. Um, there was a lot at stake. You could tell that Valentina, um, she believed that she was the better fighter. I learned last night that she’s a little bit of a sore loser. That’s what I learned. And I’ve always, and I’ve always say that bull because what she said, she’s like, Well, you know, I felt like I won the fight and they gave it to her because it’s Mexican Independence Day. Independence Day. I was like, Wow, wow. No, no, you lost you, you lost the fight was actually really just a draw. It was a good fight. It was a close fight back and forth. And whether you agree, or there was a draw or not, it was a good fight. And I could see how they ended up with that close fight is a close fight. And what I mean by a good fight, like those are normally, they’re hard to judge. Both of them could have done more. Both them had a good fight. Both of them could have taken a couple more chances, but then it would have cost them an opportunity to win in the title or keep in the title. So I can’t knock it. I was in the same situation with Gilbert in the third fight. And either one of us really took a whole lot of chances. It was a lot more strategic fight than the first two. And so I understand, this is their second fight, but Valentina being the champ for so long, she just wanted to get her title back and move on. Well, it worked against her because she could have done a little bit more. I felt like she could have pushed a little bit harder. She could have done a little more. And Alexa Gross was like, look, I’m the champion. I’m here to just do what I did in the first fight and just see wait for you to make a mistake, which honestly, Valentina’s whole career, very few mistakes in her career. Very few. But Alexa Gross was very quick to jump on those mistakes every time she made one in both of their fights. One of them led to the submission and the second one almost led to another submission. I mean that that last round she had her turtling from her back trying to figure out which way to go to stop the ground and pound when she got to mount. It was pretty nasty. So I could see maybe the 10-8 because they’re trying to be a little bit more liberal with the 10-8s. They’re trying to give them out a little bit more. And I don’t know. It was it’s a hard fight to judge. It was. It was a good fight. It was a hard fight to judge. In all fairness, I had to go back and rewatch it Because the next fight the the fight before it had put me to sleep. So I was And so I had to actually I woke up in round four of the Alexa Grosso fighting Valentina Shishanko fight John. I don’t know how fucking you’re it’s horrible man living here in Texas It’s horrible. It’s fucking like 12 something there. It’s almost 12 in the main event starting. I was like man This is I’ve been up since five. I’m like, this is shit this is the part the part that’s bad is this is where you really appreciate what a fight card is good and all the fights are action-packed and exciting because it keeps you going you can watch it and as soon as one is like a little bit of a snoozer yeah you go okay this is tough because you you start nodding man it’s like i gotta keep myself up so i gotta start you know smacking myself but yeah it’s it’s a little bit it’s it’s a little harsh i don’t want to say on the east coast they can think of places around the world like ireland and england the guys are people are watching and thinking what time it is there so i think it’s tough on the east coast it’s even worse in other places so what i’ve seen though is um i’ve seen a couple things um from some from some media that they’re really boasting about this fight and they’re giving the you know the given ladies their credit, which I agreed. Give them all the credit in the world. I think there’ve been, I think this was a fantastic fight. It was good back and forth. Um, where I look at females MMA is it’s kind of just past that Frank Shamrock era of MMA. They’ve got the cardio down now. They’ve learning to get the output down. They’re putting together a little bit of the wrestling. Some of them have better wrestling than others. Majority of the time it’s striking because they don’t have the, they don’t have that next level wrestling. Some of them are getting pretty damn good with with the submission games. Um, they’re, you know, control from the top. You only have a select few that are that way though. You got like a McKenzie Dern. Um, uh, I can’t remember her name. Uh, she seems like she has one eye that kind of like floats around. Uh, Verna and the Rova. Yeah. I think her name is Verna. Yeah. Verna Verna something. Yeah. Anyways, but uh, yeah, there’s some really good Jiu-Jitsu, um, practitioners in the game, um, in the female side, but they haven’t fully evolved their full game. Can you know, they started the I wouldn’t say they started later, they just didn’t get to the prime time. And there was a lot of them there to make each other better. Dumb. I just I don’t want to I don’t want to put too much emphasis just yet and start making them something that they they potentially I gotta be careful. I put this john, you know, this. They are spectacular. All of them are and I love the walk away. I know, I know. But I love the growth in which I’m seeing from them. But This they stay they still have some work to do in terms of in terms of making themselves and fool all the way around game Like Frank Shamrock was never the best striker. Okay, he’s in that he was but he was a good grappler He was he never could fucking wrestle, but he weaponized conditioning and cardio Marie Smith was never a great grappler started getting really good towards the end weaponized his cardio was good great kickboxer They’re kind of I feel like they’ve just females MMA has just passed You know the Frank Shamrock era they’re into that second kind of stage of when Tito made his runs into the into the His title shots and up there Where do you think that females MMA is right now after watching this fight? I’m gonna say the same thing, you know And it’s the one thing You’re talking about mistakes How many times do you see? male fighters grabbing heads And now they’ll grab it, you know, in a guillotine, different when it’s facing them, something like that. But reaching over the top, almost, you know, yeah, you can have, have a head and arm toss and those things and stuff, but it’s almost because Rhonda Rousey got away with it was for so long with her judo that she would grab the head and, you know, get the take down and stuff. Women’s MMA, they, they tend to do that just way more more than men. They grabbed the head and you know sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t and it didn’t work for Valentina last night in that fifth round but they do things at times that you’ll see that men stay away from. It’s just different. The men would men do not go for that type of technique where the women do and so I think they are different you know it’s it’s it’s a different I don’t know I want to say it’s not different in levels Obviously, there’s different levels of stuff, but it’s just a different mindset in what I will attempt to do And what I stay away from completely Well, you’ll find guys that do you know who does it a lot who did it almost every fucking time He was in the clinch was day of corning He did it every single time he would throw his hand over the top and like right around their neck And we’d always get on him about it. He’s like, that’s just the way that I wrestle man And it worked for him It was the way that he tried to like kind of like tip you a little bit and then he tried to foot sweep you and he couldn’t get the foot sweep. He’d come back inside sometimes for inside trip. I mean obviously he could fucking wrestle the shit out of everybody if he wanted to. I mean pretty close, you know, but he just it was his style of wrestling. It was almost a little bit of a hang on you style, put pressure on you, but guys like him can get away with it. Two time Olympic, uh, um, Olympic team member. Yeah. Olympic team member. Like guys like him can get away with it. Rasuhito, they can get away with it when they want to. You’re talking like that’s the next level position that they feel comfortable in against people that are not obviously on their level in the wrestling department. I just, I, I want to see that look, the growth they’re doing fantastic, but I think the, the media is they’re really up playing this right now that that yeah, there’s up playing it a little bit. It was a great fight back and forth mistakes were made, but it was a fantastic fight. I’m not trying to be negative. I just I feel like it felt like people are gonna listen to this and think I’m trying to be negative. Both of them are fantastic fighters. I just I don’t want to put too much on it saying that they’re that you know that there’s not room for growth in this there’s a ton of room for growth and who I think I honestly believe whatever female fighter comes with that next level wrestling and how it starts putting together the boxing a little bit how Alexa Grosso right now, her wrestling has gotten really good in terms of way to take down. Yeah. Stuffing take downs. The way she hit Valentina should take over from the wizard position at one moment in the fight. I was like, Holy shit. She hit her over to her side, almost to her back. That type of wrestling or those and then put that together with the boxing and little bit of minimize of kicks in there. I think that’s when you’re going to start seeing the next level females come up where it’s just going to be grimy. They’re just gonna get on each other with the knees the clinch. It’s gonna be a grimy style of female fighting right now it’s a lot of a lot of Lot of stick and move. It’s a lot of stick and move, you know, and we’ll talk about one that maybe there wasn’t that same Okay, okay, but yeah, I agree with you. I understand what you’re saying. Let me ask you this when it comes down to this decision and the the draw and the 10-8 round and everything How many people have you heard say? You know, well, I agree with the draw, but I don’t agree with the score Okay, you had one judge that went with Alexa Grasso you had one judge that went with Valentina Shevchenko and you had one judge say it’s even this is I mean Just the scores themselves. I I personally, I didn’t agree with the 10 eight, but you know, I’m okay. You know, with, you know, the rest of the scores in there and how things went. But I mean, it was as close as you can get. It is what it is. And it’s like, why are you people upset when a fight is that close? And you have it become a draw. I heard people say there should never be a draw in a title fight. What the frick are you talking about? We’ve had a lot. Yeah, you know, how about Cal Uno versus BJ pin which stopped you from being able to be in the UFC? Okay, that was that was one of the ones that started off and you had frickin like Grey Maynard and Frankie Edgar and you had What Stephen Thompson against Tyron Woodley? I mean a Goliath and Blahovitch that was I think the most recent there’s been a ton Probably five or six that have ended that way Yeah, look judging judging you have no control over and I think it’s funny that you know The commentating last night was talking about that they like oh, you know if we had a half points is some I was like Yeah, you know and it was what a big difference. We don’t yeah. Yeah, and we don’t yeah I’d like to get into why we don’t yeah, but but the people that are commentating there They’re working for the company that doesn’t want that. I think it’s the best way to do it I mean, I honestly I can’t think of another way that would make it No, everyone talked about open scoring. They were on you know, all the commentators all the media all they wanted was open scoring for a while dumb stupid I Just I can’t I can’t I just can’t do it I couldn’t can’t imagine knowing that someone can just skirt on the outside and then you have a guy taking a lot of chances Potentially getting knocked out ruining his career all those things. I get it when you’re down. You got to get after it Whatever but then you know then you end up with you should know that though or you should know that well I Might be losing this you know If the fights close, why are you taking the chance? There you go You know if the fights cool like it like if the fights close get after it be I don’t know It’s there’s a lot of different ways we can look at this. I mean I looked at what was the fight. I think it was What fight was it I think it was Oscar de la Hoya versus Trinidad. Yeah, and he just thought he was up and he circled around for like the last two or three rounds three rounds Yeah, and he ended up losing the fight You know and I was like I was sitting there with all my cousins watching the fight going What are you doing? You’re not winning by this much. You can’t give away these rounds and That’s what I mean. I feel like that’s what you’re gonna get with open scoring. You’re gonna get a lot more of that, you know and Yeah, and then everyone’s gonna be shocked. Well, no, he was winning he was and then it’s gonna cause more problems It’s going to cause more problems. So, um, I don’t know overall ladies put on a great performance last night and, um, I feel like the right person won. It was close. I wouldn’t have been mad if it went the other way, but let me, let me ask you this. Do we see an automatic rematch? No, absolutely not. You got to, you know, that’s two in a row. Now it’s close yeah it is a draw draw but you got you you gotta you gotta let other blood come in there and have a shot at that title you can always bring Valentina back but you need to allow the rest of the people there you just let the person that was number one she got her shot and it didn’t draw after losing to that person and when I said losing that person you know that was a that she tapped. That was a submission. OK, so now you got submitted and now you have one that it was close. It was a draw. But I got to let somebody else have a shot at that title. I got to bring some new, new life, new blood into it. I’m going to put somebody else up against Grasso. It was a draw, John. You’re right. It was equal. It means I deserve my shot. No, you got your shot. OK, was your second one right in the room? You get a third in a row. I agree with you. I don’t want to see that fight again. Not right now. Not right now. I want to see what’s that Who would be fighting her next who’d fight Alexa Gross and next and who would you want to see? Valentina Fica, she’s already fought a ton of people in this way I mean you the two that you’re gonna look at right away is gonna be either Aaron Blanchfield Who is up in the top in the 125s or? I know for all who just got the win Against Rose Nama Eunice. I would think those are your two there you’re looking at and if you’re gonna go style for style which is gonna be your well Grasso is gonna match up well with I know as far as the stand-up so you’re gonna have a stand-up you know not complete kickboxing you know you can see either either lady taking it to the ground but both of them are very good in the stand-up where you know that Blanchfield is gonna be working at trying to take that thing to the ground yeah I think they’re gonna give it our Aaron Blashfield how old is Aaron Blashfield she’s 20 23 she’s young she’s a baby you know I mean they’re looking to probably stake their claim on having a young champion and for those you guys I don’t think the UFC is doing that they do that all the time they’re trying to find they’re trying to make sure they work with if they can get a young champion in there and keep a young champion for a period of time. They have that. That’s smart. Yeah. No, I get it. Grasso is what? She’s older now. She’s what? 29. Oh, it looks like 28. 25. Oh, she’s 20. She’s Grasso. What’s that’s a Grasso. Yeah, I was sorry. We’re looking at it last night. I think she’s 20. 30. 30. 25 30. Same thing. Good. Yeah, I thought she was 29. No, she’s 30. Okay. Yeah. I mean, she got some time. She obviously has some time. But You know the the UFC’s job is to get somebody that’s a little bit try to get a young as young a champion as you can And see how long they can hold on to because there’s a storyline there and then on top of that They don’t keep buying belts They can just try to keep Now they give that little little ruby thing got it got it interesting so much for giving belts out all the time Oh, I know save money cut costs smart smart. They’re not cheap man those belts No, they’re not. They’re not she or no. Yeah that thing over my shoulder there on the right. It’s a Shit, it’s it runs you probably about close to 11 12 grand Something like that. It’s crazy Alright, okay. Let’s go ahead and go to that next fight. Let’s go. Let’s see. You go Jack Della I’m at Elena versus Kevin Holland. Okay, you can talk about this I fell asleep like going in like between rounds two and three Yeah, I was it was late Man, it’s the frustration level. It’s really is a frustration level with Kevin Holland. I mean, I sat on here and go, man, he’s the underdog. There’s no way I’m taking that bet. Luckily, I just didn’t. I forgot to bet, but it was I just I can’t figure him out. John, you know, what else? What else gives me the creeps though? Right now is that he said he opened his own gym. He has his own spa and now he’s calling the shots. He said that. Yeah, that’s that to me is that’s a big no no. I mean, look, having your own gym. Congratulations. I don’t wish that upon anybody. But having your own gym, it’s it’s it feels good. This is mine. I own it’s my own place to train all these things. I love it. I love all that. But it’s the focus then becomes you you’re able to control your you’re able to control your training. That’s never a good thing. You’ve got to have a trainer that controls You’re training for you. This is the time we work out. We meet every single day at this time No, I don’t care about you doing today. Yeah, this is what we’re doing today. You’re gonna work on Yeah, this is you know, this is what we’re doing. This this is our schedule you said i’ll let you set it in the beginning If you want to work out at 10 a.m And then again later at say 6 30 at night. That’s fine. We can do that I’ll be there at those if the trainer’s gonna give you the time to choose because like for me with javier I I hated the fact that we worked out at noon I hated it because we had to come back at 6 and we didn’t get done working out till 2 We didn’t get out of the gym until 2 and 4 hours later 5 hours later We had to come back and I was like this sucks It was depending on where it was like 6 6 30 7 o’clock something like that It was like just not enough break cost chick and I and Fitch. We always complained about it. Let’s work out at 9 a.m Let’s work out at 10. No, no Soon as soon as we all don’t want to get up No, as soon as we all left as soon as we all left guess what training is at 9 a.m. Drives me fucking crazy all of us. We wanted it so early for so long Look if you want to let your trainer call out the times are you gonna your trainer? But your your fighters call out what time they want to train cool. I get it, but you got to be there and be consistent I don’t know if calling the shots made a difference, but in this fight He just can’t seem to use fight IQ you’re better on the ground. I didn’t really I saw one takedown I think in the second, maybe in the third, something like that. The second or second, somewhere around. And he was a second try to shoot kind of a half-assed body lock. Didn’t get it. Josh, just let’s go off of length. All right. It is, it is a serious advantage if you use it correctly or it’s nothing. And you take a look in his opponent is not a person that wants to take this fight to the ground. So kicking is a good thing to do that tip kick up the middle to the oblique kicks to the legs calf kicks down low all of these techniques now you got to be careful with the calf kicks as far as you can get hit with the counter right hand or something like that depending on what side you’re going to but all of these things that you can have a distinct advantage in your length and reach and you you’re you’re letting someone crush that space and you’re now getting into throwing elbows inside and it’s like that’s that’s not to your advantage your advantage is in keeping it at the distance and at times Kevin did and then he just let it go just let it go I’m like just I love the fact that that you know, he’s super talented. He seems to really like to fight. But he just at times I just look at him and I want someone to shake him and say you could be so much better. But Hey, some fighters have a they have they have that way of getting in their own way. Yeah. And I feel like he’s one of them. He’s talented. He’s got all the tools he could you know, can obviously grow as a fighter like most fighters can. But I’m not going to I’m not going to put it all on him. My Jack Dillaman, Madeline made it a very, he fought his fight, he didn’t get out of his fight. He stayed in his lane. He understands what he was good at stuff to take down, let the hands go, you know, throw a couple kicks here and there to get you thinking about them. And keep my back off the fence, those kind of things. And he, we sat up here and said that we thought that, um, that Madeline, it was a hit, hit harder, had more power in his hands. And it sure looked like it because every time that he tried to hit, um, Kevin Holland, Kevin Helen backed up, circled away, leaned his head back, was able to get out of the reach of a lot of it. But it looked like it was having an effect on him, whether he hit him in the chest, whether they hit him on the, on the shoulder, whatever it was, it looked like it was having an effect on call, Kevin Holland and it looked like it was making him not want to engage that lets you know right there that That whatever that Jack Dylan Maddalena is doing. Maybe it doesn’t look like it’s all that great, but it’s having an effect on his opponents Because he makes his guys go backwards when he fights him. He makes him go backwards He’s got a little bit of that ginger to him. It’s got the got the power feels like he’s got that that kind of You know strength that we talk about about. It’s got the you know it just he seems like he’s extremely strong and he’s got some power behind him and and he puts fear in people as he starts touching them. They’re like wow this guy it’s harder than he looks. It’s hard. It hurts coming to get in there. I’ve trained with guys like that. It just it was painful kind of to touch their body. You’re like oh this is not this isn’t comfortable. You physically feel strong. You like them sharp bones or you know real tense muscles and everything just kind of hurts. He looks like he has that he must have that feeling because he’s the guys he’d fight they don’t seem to want to engage his last fight was a really good fight yeah a little bit of back and forth but it was a great fight by his opponent but yeah great this one here and you take a look there was a guy who hey he knew where his road to victory was and he kept going after it and in this fight with you know against Holland Holland just you know I’m just out here I’m gonna just do my thing and just we’ll see what happens it’s like he didn’t have a game plan of this is what I need to do to get a win against this guy this is where it needs to be it was like also I will see you know once I’m out there we’ll see what happens maybe not but it’s just that was the impression that I got from the way he fought it yeah next fight ah then you got to go and say well you want to be Super impressive. I love the way both guys came out Terrence Mitchell. We knew he’s got good wrestling very long very You know, he’ll throw going up against the the young phenom an 18 year old Raul Rojas junior they came out slinging man. They were both thinking leather going hard Probably not the best and smartest way to start the fight for either guy but damn entertaining loved the way that Uh, Rosas said, uh, sat him to his butt and he, he definitely hurt him with that left hand when it didn’t look like it hit that hard, but it’s one of those ones that, you know, it just, just pushes the chin straight down, doesn’t have the twist and it, you could see that for a moment he was frozen. He was able to at least gather themselves as he was hitting the ground, but not enough to get himself back in the fight and the fight was stopped. And it should have been, and it was a very nice comeback win for Mr. Rosas Jr. Yeah, I thought he looked good. I thought, um, you know, a little, a little sloppy with the standup. I mean, I feel like I’m, I’m sounding very negative today, but it’s, it’s, um, yeah, it was, it was a little bit of a sloppy exchange from both of them. They were getting, I loved it. They were both aggressive. Both of them, you know, um, had some good exchanges, uh, both landed some clean shots and it really just came down and who got to whose chin first, you know, uh, I think Rojas juniors got a little bit better of a, I don’t want to say better of a chin, but he was absorbing the shots a little bit better. Um, Mitchell, I would’ve thought he would’ve tried to stick and move, keep that on the outside, make a Rojas junior kind of, kind of wing some shots, miss some shots, and then make them a little bit tired. Avoiding this, uh, avoiding the takedowns or avoiding the submission game was key. But look, they got into the exchange and this is what happens. I mean, When you have two young fighters and they’re willing to trade like that, it’s really just for the fans. The fight didn’t last a minute. So it’s not like they were in there long. No, but both guys going for it and I appreciate that. I know that’s the second loss in a row for a Mitchell Terrence Mitchell, but you know, he’s got to figure out where is my strength and let me, let me play it. He’s all, he’s very Kevin, Yeah, Holland like in the fact that it’s super long for that weight class man, he’s got a huge reach and He can wrestle. You know, it’s just he’s he does remind me of Not in the way he fights and stuff, but coming from Anchorage, Alaska Just like Jared cannoneer did look he was the big dog there and he was getting all these wins and stuff and there’s levels And is those guys that you’re facing up in Alaska and they are not that they’re not tough But they just don’t have the same skill set So you’re gonna have to just continue to increase your skill set and you’ll come up with those wits But I do love the way that they just went after each other I think mentally it’s good for fighters to go and train other places because then you can realize that Other fighters out of other gyms in the shitty like small little hole-in-the-wall gyms. You never heard of I mean I used to walk into gyms and go and I’m better than all these guys and then you get in there you start Grappling with these guys are wrestling with these guys start sparring with these guys. You’re like, wow There’s this little thing they do this It’s difficult to read and they’re hitting me with it every time or they’re they’re taking me down with it every time or they’re You know, they’re putting you’re not used to it. It’s something different And so you have to tune that out that you can go into into any file. I’m way better than him You possibly are but there’s something about the way that fighter fights that they got him to this level and there’s a reason behind it And so don’t think you’re just gonna go in there like all the things that he do or I’m gonna walk right through it that’s why it’s so impressive any time a fighter gets an early knockout early submission or You know or dominates for you know The fight is because you’re fighting someone who you’ve never been around you’ve never trained with you’ve never experienced their strength Their speed their their movement their abilities to shoot submissions fast or not, whatever it is. It’s It’s eye-opening. I think for fighters when they first get in there They play play that little you know fill out game which is that’s why it’s so impressive to see these fighters get after it right off the bat and just say throw caution in The wind and that’s what these two did, you know, hey, whatever happens happens and it was a good fight good I know then last long but feel bad for Terrence Mitchell because that’s two in a row I know the first one he took I think on short notice, correct? I believe so. Yeah Yeah, I think it was like two weeks notice or something. I think and then that’s this one here. He had a full camp Going against their their darling, you know, Rojas jr. So it’s I Don’t know. We’ll see we’ll see what they do with them. I think they’ll keep him for a third fight See if he can make a comeback next one we had You want to talk about impressive performances Daniels L Huber who we talked about we said man. This young kid is good uh going up against Christos, Christos Gallegos and Christos was, he was fighting a good fight. He was fighting the way he needed to. He was really working hard at the takedowns but man, it was so impressive. The takedown defense of Zell Hoover and the way he would just shucked him off, just stuffed everything quickly and shut everything down and then just the the crispness and the sharpness of his stand up game and what he was hitting him with and then right away when given the opportunity off of a takedown attempt you look here’s your opportunity booms slides right into the anaconda man makes it tight right away we didn’t even get the leg wasn’t he just crushed the space by turning the body it was able to get the tap man you could see it out of you know extreme couture is where he trains that you could see how They love this kid. He is special because he’s, you know, super polite, just a good person, super young and super talented. Yeah. I mean, when someone has that type of length, like Kevin Holland, like him, I mean, that choke is there almost at any time. Anytime you have that front headlock, that choke is there. Yeah. And so, um, you’ve got to be prepared to fight someone like that. That’s why Tony Ferguson has such a run, um, for a while, But he would hit that thing from anywhere Especially the doors. Yeah, the doors for the anaconda. He would hit it from anywhere from from on his butt you know the other guy that does it really well is um, is Garoslav Amosov, he hits that thing from everywhere. So he hits that front headlock I’ve seen him hit it when he hit it on Logan Sturley. He hit it from his butt and Logan was on the legs Yeah, Logan was on the leg and he hit it from there very impressive stuff So if you have somebody that likes to attack that move You’ve got to be ready and prepared for them to try to hit that thing anywhere I’ve seen guys hit it from the bottom, you know They you’ve got side control on them and they just hit it from the bottom and they just try to roll you through It’s pretty impressive. I’m like what in the hell are you trying to do? You’re not getting this. Oh shit. It’s getting tight Oh, yes, you can. Oh, yeah, it’s getting tighter. It just has to do with their their limb length You know no different than like kind of how the buggy choke is the buggy choke is really effective when you when you have long limbs Super long levers. Yeah, so overall performance though was very good by a Zilhuber or Zilhuber or whatever Zell Huber. Zell Huber. I don’t have my glasses on. Zell Huber. So goodbye him and good stuff. Next fight. Kyle Nelson taking on Fernando Padilla in the opening of the main card. Kyle Nelson, very tough guy from Canada. He’s super aggressive. He comes after guys. I was really surprised at Padilla and the way that he approached the fight. I thought Padilla won the first round. I thought, you know, pressure, he landed. He’s super long. He’s landed clean shots to the for the most part. You know, it kind of opened up Nelson. But from that first round on just didn’t fight smart, just didn’t fight real well. And it allowed Nelson back in the fight allowed Nelson to start taking control of, you know, where the engagements were happening and how they were going to happen. And it was almost in my opinion, one of those a, a young, uh, talented kid, not using smart, not being smart in the way that, you know, you, you want to approach your opponent thinking that I can just walk through you. You can’t just walk through people, you know, you got to be smart in the way you do it. And I think it’s going to be a good learning experience for Padilla though. I think so. I go, Dean has had a good fight dominant control from the top. She told me we were talking about you know, what did I say? We all there’s fights that we could talk about loop Peter Godinez Was a savage she Dominated that fire She did everything that she wanted to do when she wanted to do it the takedowns that she hit the transitions that she was going through a lease read was just I mean she was getting mauled. Yeah, the I give her credit man. She was tough. That arm bar was nasty at the end. You know, I’m looking at the hyperextension of the arm and you can see herb is sitting there and he’s like good because what he’s waiting for and they’re okay. I’m going to go through this happened. You know this fight was after the no contest and we’ll talk about that. Dominic. Okay. It’s great. He pumped herb up and that’s great. Okay. But there was nothing going on that, you know, it’s a matter of we allow professional fighters to be in control in a submission. We let them go unless we see damage, we see it dislocate we see a break we see something where there’s absolute damage we’re gonna call it into the fight if it’s an amateur fight he herb would have stopped that fight because it’s like you’re not getting out and I’m not gonna let your arm go you’re not the person that’s gonna make the choice I’m gonna be the person but it as a professional there’s money involved there’s records involved we’re gonna let it go to that point where we see damage it’s a matter of her just did his job good job her you know it’s like he didn’t do anything special what’s special is how much Elise Reed put up with the amount of pressure on that arm and the way that she was able to fight her way through that because it was definitely on and it was painful and she fought her way through it but then it just came out in the second round and it just started all over again. Lupita was all over. Great performance. Godina’s is really looking good. Yes, she is. She is she had that top control heavy hips just putting the pressure down great ground pound doing some work to pass guard get to the top position get mount get back. She did everything. That’s what you’re looking for. You know, we got to fine tune her stand up a little bit more. But she’s kind of what I was talking about a little bit of that. Like Alexa Grosso making the steps in the gains of Valentina Shuchenko was a little bit ahead of her time in terms of using her wrestling, she’s a world-class kickboxer. All of these things. Um, Godina’s is headed in that direction. Fine to the stand up a little bit more. Let’s go ahead and utilize some more kicks. Let’s get our head offline. Not be so hittable. Um, these are the things that I’m looking at when I’m watching the female fights. I want to see the gains that they’re, that they’re improving on. I want to see the movement, the head movement. I want to see the slip in the counter. I want to see the step offline encounter. I want to see the step off line, get to the takedown, you know, hit the high crotch, then run to the double. I want to see all of these things right to the takedown, right to passing, not just falling into the guard. There’s a, there’s a, there’s, there’s steps in a process of getting them to the next level. They are there. There are, this is where they, this is amazing to watch. She got the takedown right into the pass. Not like, you see that from people like Mackenzie Durham. You don’t see that from all the female fighters. They get the takedown and then they stop. Well Lupita’s that person that’s always had stand up and aggression and she goes after and she’s that, she’s almost, I want to say a brawling style but she’s got a brawling style in the stand up. Like a Betch Cohea. Put her head in there. Like Betch Cohea, member of this. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And she will go after you. But now she’s backing it up where she can take it to the ground too and if that’s what she’s getting out of Team Lobo, man, congratulations. picked the right spot for you because you are absolutely progressing as a fighter. And uh, she’s now becoming multidimensional. That’s just going to make her a better overall fighter for the rest of her career. Yeah. I thought it was a great dominant performance. I have to agree with you on that as well. Next fight. Another one. Rotten couple off against Josh from, you know, this is one of those ones you couple off and You know, we thought we’d we’d look at him. He’s like Chase, Chase Hooper’s dad. They look the same, man. He’s just a bigger version of Chase Hooper as far as. But man, he’s got power in his hands and he lands beautiful kicks, beautiful shots to the body. This guy can go everywhere as far as, you know, in the stand up. He is just technically very good. So it makes smart decisions, great timing. And Josh Frem, you know, very good grappler. You could tell that he was looking to get the fight to the ground. He just was getting hit with shots that were hurting him over and over and over again until the end. What you can see when the kick hit the body and you saw him kind of leaning in and he’s sticking his elbow down there. You’ve been there. I’ve been there. It’s one of those. Okay, that really freaking hurt. Yeah, I’m trying to breathe and just give me and then he comes right back to the body with the liver shot Just put him to his knees and Your body just it shuts down. There’s nothing you can do, but it was a beautiful performance overall by Kapilov He’s just he’s starting to get on a roll Yeah, the confidence is there. He realizes what he’s doing is working Now he’s explosive the head kicks the fast fast He seems faster than what appears on TV because it seems like the fighters They’re respecting his speed and his power both and the way he mixes it up really well keeps him guessing So good for him. He goes to the body a lot with the kicks, which is very important A lot of fighters don’t do it enough. They go to the calf kick a lot, which is good But a lot of fighters are still doing the legs as much as possible, which I think is good They got it. Don’t forget about that body that’ll open up the head kick a lot It’ll open it up. And so he’s he’s he’s on track. Is he ranked right now? Can you look him up his copy off ranked might be that time 15 maybe in the tortoise 15 Nope no, he’s not Nope, nope. Nope. Nope Interesting. I mean like he hasn’t fought a high-level competition, but he’s still fighting guys that are tough jobs for our friends pretty tough off. So, um, but the good for him, good performance, good win. Another finish. He’s on, he’s on track man. Confidence is building. Look for him to probably get offered a top 15 guy right now somewhere in there. Maybe even a top 10, like a 10 or 11. So good for him. Uh, let’s go ahead and talk about the next fight, which was a no contest. Yeah. Explain to me what happened, John. I mean, John, it’s so simple. Go ahead. It’s the fight game and like like the refs are in a in a in a pinch. It’s it’s I don’t know. I don’t want to bag on people but it’s not John. I’ve never reffed anything. I’ve reffed like a couple like smoker fights. I’ve reffed a couple like events you know that are just a couple little small M.A. shows that were amateur fights you know to do it for what is it called camo California amateur. Yeah I’ve done it a couple of times for them. It’s just. It’s not easy. It’s not easy. And so I hate to I hate to hear people that say things like, you know, it’s your job. It’s just I get it. It’s their job. I do get it. But there’s a fine line between letting the fighter fight out and the fighter being choked out too long. He’s like, Oh, just you got to do you got to give him a minute. If I give him a minute, he could fucking die. Look, you know, I mean like if if I give him a minute being choked out, that’s a long time, buddy And so I get it. I understand I would be so fucking mad But they made it like he is you don’t think he’s upset with himself. He’s really mad. He’s really mad But this look other other refs have made the same mistakes That’s cool. There’s plenty of them have and they made it on the biggest stages and some of the biggest fights. Yep, and And we just got to look past it. Look, we chalked it up to fighter safety. That’s the way I chalk it up. I mean, look, he looked like his arm dropped, his right arm dropped. And OK, if I’m thinking now, I maybe would have shaken it a little bit to see if I would have got a reaction out of him. Stop with that goddamn shaking bullshit. OK, I would have done something. I mean, I would have shook his arm. OK, you would have. Yeah, I would have shook his arm. Yeah. I would have shook, and I would have shook to see if there was any tension still left in it. Ah, so let’s take the arm and put it someplace that doesn’t belong. And when you do, guess what? It’s going to, what’s going to happen when he’s there, he’s going to move it. If you sit there and shake and he’s trying to relax, you can do a shake. You’re the one controlling the arm and you’re hoping that he’s going to give some resistance. You’re hoping, but that doesn’t always happen. And so when you’re hoping he’s going to give some resistance, I want to take the arm and I want to move it into a place where all of a sudden it’s like, he’s going to pull it back, he’s going to put it in yes, you are, you’re, you’re, you’re creating a situation where he’s got to move his arm, a guy I’m going to make you move the arm and see if you’re there, if you don’t move it, then it’s telling me, yes, you’re out and I’m going to come in and stop the fight. But this whole, this comes, you know, just because the UFC and the WWE are now owned by the same company, I guess it’s not even Endeavor, it’s TKO now, okay? This is the old Hulk Hogan bullshit, okay? This whole shaking of the arm, because Hulk Hogan used to get put into a fucking rear naked choke, we’ll say, and he’s not sitting on his ass, he’s sitting on his ass and the fucking whoever it is the rock or whoever has got him in this shit choke that is fake as hell and dave is going crazy and loving it he’s just absolutely oh my god this is the greatest thing ever and the referee looks at hulk yeah and the hulk is sitting there and he’s like shaking all sudden his arms start to go down and the referee picks his arm up and let’s go of it his arm drops it hits the ground and he does it again and the Hulksters arm it drops and then the third time always the third time the Hulk arms picked up and he starts just shaking and oh my god he’s gonna come out of it we don’t pick up arms and shake them we move them to a place where they don’t belong or I can put tension on where the tension is gonna want to come back that’s gonna tell you whether the person’s out or not you know but this whole thing you know Dominic was very big and and and I don’t mean to say anything bad about her Herb did a phenomenal job last night he had a great show but Herb had the same situation occur with Robbie Lawler against Ben Askren Ben Askren’s putting him into a choke different type of choke obviously But Robbie Lawler decides I’m just going to relax, lets his arm, his arm kind of flops and Herb does the shake and stops the fight. And Robbie Lawler goes, what are you doing? The only difference is they didn’t have a replay official at the time that came in and said, hey, we want to make that a no contest. You stopped that. He was not out. That’s what happened here. it’s no contest yet sucks it sucks for both fighters in the fact that you know you you have this situation now based upon the pay the way the UFC structures that breaks it down no one is getting that win money you know you’re you have your show money and you have your win money and now you don’t even have the chance someone’s taken away that opportunity for you to win that money And that that’s that’s where the real problem is, you know, when you’re looking at this as a no contest or a no decision What I’ve heard people talk about they should just restart them It’s tough yeah, I’m telling you right now I did I did a fight one time and it was in Virginia and it wasn’t for the UFC it was for another promotion and and during the during a fight where one of the fighters puts the other fighter into this I mean super deep umplata at the time and this thing is on it’s done perfectly and he’s cranking and he’s trying to and the guy’s putting up with and all of a sudden all the lights go off it’s black you know I mean there’s There’s enough light you can see, you know, a little bit, but I’ve stopped the fight. So I stopped the fight, right? I pulled them out of the position. I can’t have them fight in the dark and we, you know, wait and we see how long, okay. It’s going to be 10 minutes for the lights are completely up. I put them back in the same position and I’m telling this one guy, crank it more, crank it more, crank it more. there’s no way that I can get it exactly where it was at there’s you know because you as the person who’s getting cranked are now starting to adjust so you’re in a little bit better position than you were in when he had it the first time and we start the fight the guy gets out of it and I was just like there’s nothing more you can do I mean it sucks but it is what it is so if you were gonna try to restart this and put them back into the same position are you going to adjust the fight in any way sure you are is it is it a choice it’s a choice that possibly you know can be brought up and they can do but the real problem with the the ending is both guys get shorted out on money in some way you know no one was able to get that money so it was a mistake it was a mistake by Chris you know Dominic jumped all over him and that’s you know that’s Dominic’s you know he has that you know ability it’s his job if you want to look at it and say it but Dominic says some things that you know he has no idea but he opens up his mouth and says those things like you know you know you you shouldn’t be in there if you don’t grapple well there’s different types of grappling Josh Chris Tione was a good wrestler he was a guy that wrestled for for most of his life, you know? He attained a lot higher status in wrestling than Dominic Cruz ever did. Okay, now Dominic was a better fighter, no doubt about it. And if I was gonna say, does Chris have, you know, a limitation when it comes to the submission in Jiu Jitsu part, sure, he’s not that guy. He’s the wrestling coach guy. But to sit there and to, it’s not as easy as you think. think and until we have we have guys you know take a look at Frank trick this was he a fighter yeah damn good fighter right good wrestler you know Chris Lehman we got all all these guys that have been good fighters and now are trying to referee or judge and they’ll all tell you dude it’s not what you think holy shit and it’s because you’re supposed to be perfect all the time hard to be perfect all the time. Hard to be right and make everybody happy because you’re trying to make the fighters happy. You’re trying to make the promotion happy. You’re trying to make the commission happy. And the commission happy and the promotion happy are two different directions because promotion wants the fight to be exciting. They want it to be done right. The commission wants the fight to be exciting. They want it to be safe. So you’re always playing that balancing act. And I feel bad for Chris that this happened, but there is systems in place that he needs to adjust to when you see somebody and you’re going to make a stop, here’s what I want you to do first, just to make sure in that situation. Based upon the fact, if you look at the choke, That’s not a good joke. And that’s where Dominic was right. You look at how the arm was across and what he was doing, it’s gonna be really hard because you only have possibly one side of the carotid and you really didn’t have the larynx to crush, to push up against the carotid arteries. So Dominic was right about that, but mistakes are made, so what happens? But they did it right in that no one got a loss. Yeah. Okay. So you said, do you restart the fight? And you had a very long winded answer, but no, I don’t think you do the way. The reason why you don’t is the emotions of the fighter who won everything is off. I just won this fight. Now I got to fight this guy again. Right. Talking about you. Stop the fight. I won the fight. And then the other fighters like, yeah, let’s go. I’m motivated. Now I get a second chance. It just changes the time. I usually, usually you’re absolutely right. You will see the guy who supposedly lost the fight come back and I’ve because I’ve seen him restart the fight too many times. They come back and win. Yeah. Because the other guy has lost everything. His mentality is gone. Yeah. The adrenaline dump is real. It’s like, yes, I’ve won. You’re getting your check. You’re celebrating. You’re up on the top of the cage. You know, thinking the fans and they’re like, yeah, get down. Okay. You’re going to keep going. Wait, what here? I want you to think about this. Go back to Anderson Silva. Did you ever see Anderson and Silva do that. Oh, against Michael Bisping. Mike Bisping. Yeah. Right? All of a sudden he was told, no, no, no, no, next round. And you could see the drop. Mm-hmm. It’s tough. But then there’s also like when fighters also win and they take another fight the next week or two weeks later because they had a good performance. Yeah. Don’t do that either. Give yourself time to get out of your own head. Focus on the next opponent. I’ve seen it. We just talked about a fighter doing that, I think, what, two weeks ago or something. They had fought two or three weeks ago. They had fought on one card, had a dominant performance, no injuries. Like it was like a two minute fight, came on and fought the next time lost. It was, they wanted to take the role around fight. They wanted to go right over to the next fight, collect another check. Good on them for doing it, but it’s not easy. It’s definitely not easy. So anyways, I just, uh, look, refs, they have a hard job. Uh, it becomes more real when you’re in there trying to get all the rules. And like you said, the making sure the commission has a standard of which they want fighter safety and all these things. And the promotion wants something similar, but different. They want to make sure that there’s action. They want to make sure you’re not, you know, you’re helping the fight move along and making the crowd happy and making us happy. So there’s, there’s a little bit of a difference there. These things are going to happen. It sucks for the fighters, but I would rather have this happen, but at least they got it right with the no contest. But I’d rather have this happen and the guy that fucking let the kid almost die in fucking San Antonio. There you go. Like that. Like it goes both ways. And it’s one of the things that I will tell you and trust me, Chris has heard this too many times from the Nevada State Athletic Commission is we want you to stop at one punch early rather than one punch late. We want you to stop at one second early rather than one second late. And that’s what you’re dealing with. And no matter what, people have no concept of how much pressure there is in being that person in there. When you said put the arm where it’s in a position where they’re going to have to react, in that position, yeah, where do you put it? And then as a fighter, I’m like, hey, man, now I’m fighting the ref and the fighter. That’s why it has to be fast. And I’m going to take if your arm is down, I’m going to push it back. I’m going to push it back and just kind of hold it in and see if I get any push back at all. Because I do that, your arm is going to automatically start to come forward. Like what are you doing? You’re there. Got it. Gives me that information. So you are just basically shaking the arm. Okay. Got it. Noted. But yeah, that’s the whole thing. You are. But you’re doing it with a control that is not this flopping thing because when you flop it if the guys relax it’s gonna flop. Yeah. I guess yeah. I get what you’re saying. Just trying to figure out like what if it happens if you put it in the wrong spot and it makes the choke tighter. No. Thanks John. I think you know chokes enough to where you’re not going to help the choke. All right. Last fight I’m going to talk about is Tracy Cortez. I thought she looked good. She put some. Oh, that’s the last fight you’re going to talk about. I’m not. you can talk about the other two. Oh no, I’ll talk about Charlie Campbell too. He had a great performance. Great performance. Did you hear him against DC? Yeah, I loved it. Poor Daniel Cormier has been eaten alive. I loved it. I was awesome. Good. I mean, I felt bad for a little bit. No, no, I felt bad a little bit for Charlie Campbell because at that time when you fight and you’re only the second fight and there’s not a lot of crowd there yet. Some of the crowd you can hear in the background. Yeah, it was like it was so dead. I felt so bad for him. That would have that would have got a lot more heat if he was on the main card. But good performance by him, man. Great knockout, great performance, TKO, whatever. But great shots. He was throwing getting himself out of position a little bit too much. He’s good. I don’t know why Bellator didn’t keep him. We liked him. Stupid. Yeah, dumb, dumb. But they did the he’s a He’s a good fighter. He was tough. It was fun to watch. Uh, he’s a gamer. I think his nickname is the cannibal. I mean, he was eating, he eats up some people, man. He looked good last night. Good for him. I was happy for him. Tracy Cortez. Let’s talk about that fight. I mean, I could talk about that all night. She fought her ass off. She did. But you know, going into this, we talked about, and we knew that, you know, Jasmine’s a very good wrestler. We knew that Tracy’s a good wrestler. So you’re wondering, is it going to cancel each other out? It’s going to end up on the feet. It really did for the most part. But the speed difference was the big difference in the fight. Tracy was a faster fighter. She got her shots off and she was landing shots before Jasmine was able to get the counters to come back and to land and have an effect on Tracy. Jasmine did a great job throughout that fight, fought tough as hell, and she took some good shots. Man, she took some big shots and kept just marching forward a lot I loved it with the third round when she grabs the braid to land the knee. Hey, you know at DC said if you’re not cheating You ain’t trying it’s like Let’s talk about a little towel push down I think it’s great. Um, I thought she looked good man. She did I love the fact that she called her out on pulling the hair. Hey, man, what are you doing? But come on. I mean, I know it gets I know sometimes it’ll happen the glove or whatever will snag on it. I fought What was his name? Cajun Johnson was his name. Uh, yes case. I fought him Long before up in Canada. I fought him up in there and This guy had a he had like a fro at the time My fingers got stuck with the gloves and the tape and all that shit got and he was yelling at me from the bottom As I was beating his face in he was like I’m like, come on, man, fuck up all my hair. I’m like, bro, your fucking hair is up in the gloves. And we was like, your hair is everywhere. Yeah, it’s everywhere. I was getting in my mouth was getting my gloves. It was anyways, it’s not easy. It’s not as easy to think. Same thing happened with when I fought Benson, Benson didn’t have his hair tied back. And I was like, oh, I wish I would have told him to braid it. But it’s like my mouth was on his back. It was in my mouth going down my throat, so gross, so gross. And I love Benson, but man, it’s just nasty. That’s one of the things when you do a Benson Henderson fight. Mm-hmm. It is absolute. You’re gonna that you see his hair Because it comes in because it’s yeah coming out coming out. Yep. It does. Yeah, I mean I had there was one moment I think in round three or three or four He was three and I come back to the to the corner and I’ve got like Pieces of his like like a chunk of hair in my glove It must have got attached to like the the tape or something that yanked and it pulled his hair out Yeah, it’s not easy to fight someone with him. She had braids in but still but Tracy She’s a good after a year year and a half off. I thought she looked good credit She actually looked better and I think even though you said like she’s a good wrestler and you thought maybe the speed I thought it was the power that made the difference She moved her head offline and every time she landed it was almost like the the Alexa Grosso fight She had that every time she landed And then Jasmine had to take a step back and it just it looked like Tracy had the more powerful shots. She was she had the cleaner boxing when you got inside that phone booth. Not a phone book phone booth and she got inside that phone booth. She had the cleaner boxing and I love what she was doing. She had she had she did a good job. She needs to get the cardio. I think the first this was her first fight back after a year and a half. Get that that fight pace back. You’re gonna have to get into that third round with a little bit better cardio. She was breathing pretty heavy in that third round. She got tired. Both of them were. Both of them were. Both of them. Yeah. But Jasmine was pushing through it better than Tracy was. She was. She was taking control of that fight. Yeah. But I mean, what’d you think of the decision? Did you think Tracy won? I did. You did? Yeah. I thought it was close, but I gave it to Tracy. I thought she won. I thought it was close too. I thought Tracy landed the harder shots. Yep. I agree with you. I agree. But overall, between Tracy and Charlie, man, I thought that was a good back and forth battles, but I thought Charlie had a great performance with the knockout. Good for him, man. Yeah, very good. And a beautiful job on the mic. I love what he did. He even had cause Corby was answering him. That was the best. I felt bad for day cause he says, you know, what’d you do? So Corby’s good. Well, I thought, yeah, it doesn’t matter what you thought was great. I thought it was great. And DC is a total nerd for the WWE. Oh yeah. No, he’s in there. He bought, he bought into it perfectly. It was great. No, him and, uh, him and King Oh, uh, there’s a couple of the guys that, Oh, this guy named podcast, Dave, all nerds, all nerds for the, uh, for the w rampage. Yeah. Rampage. Very true rampage. All right guys. Hey, that’s gonna wrap up our UFC talk. Let’s go ahead and jump right into the, man, we spent an hour breaking that fight down. Hey, did you see that Sam Alvey got a knockout in karate combat? Did he? Yes, he did. After pulling a Dan Cormier with the way in. Oh, I was like, Oh my God, look at me like a son, bitch. Not all commissions are equal. Oh, all right, guys. Hey, before we work out, we’re going to move on to some news and talk about the Bellator car three or one being announced and the fight card is stacked. And but before we do that, let’s go to only fans dot com slash Wayne and only fans dot com slash Wayne and subscribe to us over there. It is free. 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This is probably one of the fights I’m looking forward to the most is this fight. Go ahead. Boom, the champ, the undefeated Yaroslav Amazov, the guy that everyone in American top team will tell you there is no doubt they believe he is the best welterweight fighter in the world taking on Jason Jackson and this is it’s kind of one of those uh Jason Jackson is with kill cliff FC who used to be you know Sanford who used to be hard knocks who used to be the black zillions and so you have ATT versus the black zillions once again almost like they had the ultimate fighter thing. We missed the three three sixty hard knocks three six at heart knocks. Oh, you said our knocks. Okay, I said hard knocks, but Look at Jason Jackson. He’s got the same build as Amazon long tall good wrestling good stand-up. These guys are gonna match up. Well, this should be a great fight John I said this before I think if there’s gonna be a guy that gives Amazon the most problems gonna be Jason Jackson It’s the way that Jason Jackson’s fight. He fights a little reckless, makes mistakes, but he fights aggressive and he lets it go. The kicks, the hands, he will wrestle you. His first love was wrestling. Now he doesn’t have the wrestling of a Logan Starley, but he’s got better standup than Logan. Logan’s come a long way in his standup, but Jason Jackson’s longer, he utilizes the kicks better. He knows how to get into the clinch and use the knees and the elbows. I mean, this is going to be a more of a dangerous fight, not taking anything away from Logan Storley. In the first fight, Amosov wasn’t prepared for how good Logan Storley was on the ground and how much better his stand up had got a little bit. It was getting hit a little bit on the feet and he made those adjustments as after he went away to the war or during the war in Ukraine and Russia. He comes back, comes back on fire, beautiful performance over Logan Storley. Jason Jackson has just been knocking him down as they put him in front of him. He’s exciting. He’s fun to watch. He’s got the speed with the power at the hands and speed with the hands. Great kicks and he will take you down and control the top position and he will sprawl and brawl. So this makes for a very, very fucking good fight. A very good fight. I’m excited for this fight. I said this a while ago, the out of all the guys in that welterweight division, I felt like Logan was probably the guy that would give Amazon the biggest fits, which he did in the after watching their first fight. But I think Jason Jackson’s probably the number two guy. Can you pull up the Bellator rankings? I mean, I really believe that Jason just has the style to potentially give, uh, Amos off his first loft. Now I’m not saying he’s going to do it. I mean, until the guy gets beat, I can’t go against him. But, um, yeah, you look at Logan’s first, Michael page is probably leaving, going to the UFC, which is good for him. Happy for him because it’s a good opportunity towards this stage of his career to go out there and try and, uh, and test himself and see where he’s at. Yes. see what he wants to do. Everyone kept talking about I’m surprised. Korshkov I think would be a great fight against Amosov as well. A little bit of the wrestling got to stand up he’s explosive. The rest of those guys down there I don’t know. None of those guys I think will match up. None of those guys will give I mean Larkin maybe it’s Larkin. Yeah, it’s up and down with Larkin. You know he wins one lose one he wins two you know he’s he’s he’s good. He’s very good. He’s just coming off of loss. He just lost to Korshkov Korshkov. That’s right. So Korshkov though. Um, absolutely amazing. Anyways. All right. What was the other card? This card stacked. So you’ve got who else on this card? Oh, come on. Who else? Yeah. Pettis against patchy mix for the bottom way title. You got Sergio Pettis who was out for so long with a knee injury after winning the title. And then he comes back and he beats Patricio Pitbull in a beautiful performance. Patchy Mix went on and entered the Bantamweight World Grand Prix, walked away from that just looking fantastic. Went the distance with Horiguchi but just dominated him. Then went and submitted Magomed Magomedov as the first person to ever do that and then knocked out Rafian Stotz with a beautiful knee. Just looked fantastic throughout that entire Grand Prix. Well, he’s the interim champion, Dave interim, but who’s the champion? Pettis is the champion and patchy mix is looking to get that undisputed title. This is a fantastic matchup. Yeah. I’m looking forward to this fight a lot. Uh, it really comes down to who can implement their game plan. If patchy mix can get this fight to the ground. I mean, I don’t think he can’t do damage on the feet. He can, but I mean, obviously he’s, I think leaps and bounce better than Pettis on the ground. And Pettis I think is going to have slick movement, the way he lets his combinations go, all of those things. Where I look at this fight having a little, is kind of the Raphael Stotz and kind of the Corey Sandhagen with Frankie Edgar. It’s the height man, the height of patchy mix, that knee coming up the middle. If Pettis drops his head at all, if he just, yeah, you’re right there. You’re right there. So if you like to lean in and just step with the lead foot and leave the back foot behind. You’re dipping your head at the same time. So when he throws that jab or he throws a right hand and he’s got to reach for it at all, his head will automatically dip, which puts you right into that knee in range. We saw that with, uh, with Rafi on starts and when he got knocked out by mix, this is a good fight. I’m excited for this fight. It is. Then you also have AJ McKee against Sydney outlaw. Interesting fight. Sydney outlaw coming off of a nice win. Petriki Pitbull going up against Alexander Schaubly. That is in the lightweight Grand Prix. That’s a hell of a matchup. Schaubly is a sniper. Petriki’s got huge power, big knockout artist. That’s a great, great matchup too. Huh. Yeah, I mean, I’m looking forward to that as well. Schaubly and Pitbull, that’s gonna be a great fight. Great fight. I mean, these two guys are gonna slug it out. Schaubly, I think he’s got a little bit more- Someone’s going to sleep. Yeah. Shabba’s got a little cleaner striking clean in and out sniper type fighter and Patryk. He’s gonna yeah Patryk. He’s gonna let the hands go ahead with the with some big shots. Rocky outstops versus Danny Sabatello part two. Part two. What do you think of that rematch? I think it’s great. So I think it is a great match. Did you see Sabatello training with sunshine? Yeah. He took him down. That was great. I was laughing my ass off. Yeah. You You got a room full of guys. Sanchai being just the unbelievable Muay Thai guy that can just do it all. Takes on anybody of any size. Danny Sabatella, he gets hit with a kick. Danny Sabatella drops down, whoop, double leg, put him on his ass. Good job, Danny. Man, this car is pretty stacked. I’m looking forward to you. You’ve got a Timur Khizriyev versus Justin Gonzalez. That should be a good fight. And then you’ve got Mike Hamill, who’s always fun to watch against Tim Wild. Great. Always fun to watch. What’s the first two fights on there, Dave? And then also Unaba versus Denise Kilholtz. Yep. You might be able to think out on that. That’s that’s a good one. That’s two snipers. Yeah. That’s an interesting one. Look at a tough knife turned into. I don’t know, man. You take a look at her fight against Vita Ortega and I mean she was so accurate so good in the stand-up her footwork was beautiful she just picked Vita apart and Vita kept coming after her and stuff Vita’s been in there with Denise and got a win so this is an interesting matchup I think it’s gonna end up obviously being a strikers, you know, battle, but this is, this is an interesting fight. That’s tough. Cause so Mika, she is hittable and Denise’s got some power and Denise has got some snap. Yeah. So it’s going to be a good fight. It’s going to be a good fight. We’ll see. I mean, this is a big step up in competition for an ABBA big step up. What’s an ABBA six and oh yeah. Six and oh, and then Denise is seven and five, but that entire card is just Awesome. Good. Pumped. Pumped for them all. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let’s go ahead and talk about something else. We got Kayla Harrison versus Julia, but in time, Kayla’s coming back. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I feel like she was promised a little something, something. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Hey, if you stick around, if you stick around, we got some money for you and we got we got some top level top level fighters coming your way. So we’re going to we’d like to hang on to you so we’re gonna find out we’re gonna see exactly uh it’s a good fight for her I think Julia bud is is not who she used to be she’s getting a little bit older in age what 41 she’s got to pull the trigger more that’s all you know she’s good in the clinch got to pull the trigger more and don’t be afraid to utilize your wrestling you be on top you do the work you know um I think I think she could take Kayla Harrison down I’m not saying she could throw her anything I’m saying is she could probably she might be able to get her down. If she does get her down and her being on top is is beneficial on the feet. I think she’s got the advantage for sure, but she’s got to let her hands go. It’s just like she’s got her hands go. If you don’t, if you don’t pull the trigger, you, you can’t knock someone out. And so that’s been, that’s been the MO on her for the last, like probably, you know, five or six fights, four or five fights. Yeah. She’s got to pull the trigger. That’s all she’s talented. We all know that she’s talented. She’s got to pull the trigger. She’s a physical specimen. Both of them are as far as you know, athletes, just both of them are incredible. But Julia needs to just put it in your head. I just need to go after you. Yeah, she goes after it. She can make this a great fight. I think with Kayla, like Julia gotta be careful just she gotta be careful in how she approached she got to throw land and then throw again. She can’t just rush in with shots. She had a tendency sometimes to like walk forward with one twos. That’s gonna I mean, if Kayla will just dip underneath, get to the body lock with to take you down. You know, that’s not where you want to be. Kayla Harrison is she’s good, man. She’s good. So she’s got to stay out of that out of that position. She I think this time away has probably rejuvenated her a little bit. It’s been good for Yeah, taking this season off, I think I was like, okay, you know what? All right, I’m ready to get back to making money. The thing that the thing that’s unusual when you look at it that I look, you know, it says that featherweight. So that means Kayla is coming down to 145. Good. So that’s exactly what I think needs to be done. You know, there’s so many more, you know, opportunities for good matchups at featherweight than we’re ever going to see it lightweight. So yeah, there’s not there’s not a lot either at featherweight. So but there’s still better ones a lot less, a lot less lightweight though. Well, this this gives me hope john that what they’re going to do. They’ve got rid of the 55 pound division, I believe for the lightweights females, correct? And now it’s 45. Now, yes, it’s 40. Okay, so it’s 45. Kayla, her biggest gripe from what I understand was that she just didn’t want to do the fit 45 and be in the tournament. She just was like, I’m not doing that. She couldn’t lose weight that many times. Yeah, that many times like, I don’t want to do that to my body. I know what’s good for my health. I’m not doing that. So now which is smart. Now. Yeah, now with like the potential buy of Bellator and maybe some of the fighters coming over. Now, it makes me feel like they’re going to start leaning towards doing these matches like this, where it’s not in the tournament. And you’re going to see more of a traditional style of a promotion and fight. I think it’s beautiful, man. I think it’s a great opportunity if the female fighters come over and you have her there. And she’s ready to make 45. She can make 45. She’s fought at 45. And she’s good. So it makes sense. It does make sense. Good for her. Good for them. This is gonna be a good fight. I’m looking forward to it. This is a PFLW. Yeah. Didn’t they just come out with that? PFLW. Yeah, they came out with this whole thing, PFLW. What’s that? For women, I guess. Oh, wow. All right, still a PFL. Yes, it is. All right, next, what else you got for us, Dave? So apparently Derek Branson was released from UFC. Ali came out and let us know about that. and Derek Branson is no column for a Jake Paul fight. Curious on your thoughts? I mean, another wrestler turned boxer. My thoughts? Yeah, let’s see what happens. My thoughts is, Derek, if it’s an MMA fight, go ahead. If it’s a boxing fight, don’t. He’s gonna beat you in boxing. Stop. Joe, I think we’re past all this, like when these fighters get released, and they don’t care. They want to just make the biggest pay that they can make. And if it means fighting Jake Paul, that means fighting Jake Paul. That’s it. I don’t think Jake Paul’s going to fight him. Derek Brunson never had, I mean, he has, he has a big name in MMA. He has a good name. Um, but he never was a world champ. Neither was Nate Diaz, but Nate Diaz his name is huge. Okay. So big, big difference, big difference, big difference. So I don’t see Jay taking the fight either. So it doesn’t, uh, but uh, but I like the call out, whatever. If you’re there to make the money, make the money. If you can get a fight with Jake Paul, get after it, Make the money. That’s it. Do it. The part that I don’t understand is he was released with the UFC, but if you look at the headline on this thing, it says, Oh, he wants to tune up fighting against Jake Paul. Otherwise he’ll wait for Otis on you versus Whitaker winner. What the hell’s that? I don’t know. Makes no sense. No idea. But then again, I look at it says on September 5th, 2021. So Dave’s got something on there. That’s three years old To know September 14 2023 right there. No, excuse me by Damon Martin Take a look up above right underneath the actual headline, but I think September 5th, 2021 8 a.m. I Don’t see the a.m. Oh my god right there right below Whitaker winner. I don’t have my glasses on down. I can see it. Oh Oh, underneath that that’s just that’s just them there. That’s when that came out. No, but that’s what he posted John That’s his that’s from his Twitter from Derek Brunson’s. Yes, because that’s when that whole thing came out against Talking about the Otis Anya versus Whitaker winner. No, that’s when he he just took that screenshot Brunson the statement the statement. Oh, yes, the first one. Yeah came out in 2021 That’s when he first put out. Hey, I’ll fight Jake Paul Thank you. Now. He’s saying now. He’s released. Hey Jake Jake I’ve already called you out before got it. God. I got it. Okay They got complicated real quick. Could you clear that up John? All right, last one I’ve got for you guys Did you guys get a chance to catch Dana way on Piers Morgan at all? It was quite an interesting interview. There were some interesting things on there. John, the one thing I would love to get your take on is he talked about, he kind of clarified on, remember when he said no female, no females in MMA like 10 years ago whenever, he gave some clarity to that which I thought was interesting where he said something like, at the time you need to realize that we were having a hard enough time getting the sport recognized it was and so the idea of putting females in the sport was just something that we didn’t want to take on because it was already hard enough getting men, getting people to agree that men could compete in this because at the time John McCain was calling it human cock fighting. I thought it was an interesting piece of information that 10 years ago might have added some good colour to it but what do you guys think? I’m going to tell you right now, I did watch it and it cracks me up, Josh, because everyone says, you know, Oh, John takes shots of Dana. No, I don’t. If I think Dana’s right, I say, I agree with Dana. Why? If I think Dana’s wrong, I say, I don’t agree with him. It’s just my opinion on what he does. And you know, look at times he’s just being a promoter and I’m going to be honest about being a promoter. He’s not being honest with what he’s saying. I did watch this interview and I want to tell you that I thought that Dana Was great at it. I thought he was fantastic. And I thought he was honest. I thought, you know, some of the stuff he said was, you know, tough to listen to as far as it was heartfelt in, in ways. And, uh, he talked about his parents dying and that he didn’t, he really didn’t have any feelings about it. And I saw, I understand, I understand why, you know, and, uh, I thought he talked about the sport and the McCain thing a little bit and he was God damn. You know see and this is what has always gotten me to where I get mad at him because look I don’t hate dana I like dana. There’s things about dana that I know that you know that I look and I go Why are you why are you that way? But? Everyone’s gonna have their thing. Yeah, okay, and and if if if every if I was gonna sit here and tell people they would go No Yeah, see but if you know but look like, I want to say, I think as a father, I think he does, he’s, he’s great with his kids. Kids are the most important thing to him. Yes. He had the thing with his wife and it was wrong. I’m just going to say that, but you know, they dealt with it the way that they, you know, uh, felt it was the best way to deal with it. And he’s, he’s moved on from it. She’s moved on from it. That’s great. I thought that, you know, many times What has gotten me in trouble with Dana is Josh. I was there from the beginning. Okay. Before there was the sport, I know everything that happened. I know who created things and stuff. I was listening to Tito Ortiz the other day on a thing, talking about how he created the gloves for the, for the UFC and a Wano and I like, well, you hear you want John a Wano’s number and we’ll see who really fucking did the work with John. I don’t know, but whatever. Okay. People are going to come up and history that create their own history. And it was one of the things that bothered me about Dana was Dana was rewriting history because when people didn’t know, he would just insert his form of, well, you know, we did this and we did that. And it was like, no, you didn’t. This is who did that. And you can only go so many times where, you know, you say, all right, You’re just going to lie about it. He was honest in this thing. He was so honest. He talked about, well, John McCain was before that, you know, we were really, I was really part of the sport. He’s right. And that, and I love the fact that he wants to sit there and say, you know, he kind of did us a favor because, you know, his big thing is he wanted to, you know, just, you know, get this regulated. Okay. Now from Dana’s point, I can understand why he says that, but that’s not completely the The story is, you know, I can tell you the story with John McKay, but he was honest about everything that he said in this thing and I loved him for it. I thought he was great. And I thought, you know, he, he brought the guy on about his health and stuff like that, but this interview was the best interview I’ve ever seen Dana do. Because it was absolutely, he wasn’t trying to, to inflate anything. He wasn’t trying to put it, he was being as honest and he was being, I thought at times was getting a little bit into his life that, you know, he did not want to share, but he, but he was, and I thought he did a great job with it. And I thought it was fantastic as far as the way he came off. I mean, I always saw was the part with his parents. There was a short clip of that running around and someone sent it to me and, um, I can relate, you know, It’s not an easy thing. Like I said, most of us fighters are people that work in the fight industry. We haven’t had the best relationship either with parents or family or just in life. And for you to go on national television and say the things that he did, I mean, he’s got some inner demons that he’s trying to let out. Well, and some people are going to think he’s heartless for that. Oh, you know, I didn’t really feel anything. He’s not. You got to understand. Not everyone has that mom, you know, or dad that, you know, they look at and go, you know, my mom’s the most important person in the world. That doesn’t happen for everyone. I wish it did. Yeah. I wish it did. But it doesn’t. Yep. I mean, that’s why I think that this day and age on you’ll see me on social media several times just pushing the pushing. present as a father, being present as a parent is the most important thing. You don’t need to drive and push your children. You just got to make sure you’re there for them, whether it’s to point them in the right direction. You don’t need to know you love them. Yeah, that’s the biggest thing, man. And just being just being present, nothing more important than standing there, making sure that your kid knows that you’re on the sideline watching a play, whatever sport it is or, you know, just being available for them. That’s it. The rest of it will all happen in its own way. Do the best for them as you can. You know, that’s it. I understand where he’s coming from. You know what I mean? It’s not an easy thing to talk about, especially in front of millions of people on on a Piers Morgan show. And you know, it’s gonna be sent around to another 50 million people, you know, probably by the next year. So but in terms of David brought up to you with the females MMA. I didn’t even consider that. I didn’t consider that though. It kind of wasn’t the right time. No, he was absolutely being honest to the, like, like I said, everything that he talked about, he was honest and it was, you know, forever Dana said, no, there will never be women in the UFC. No, there were. And that’s because people, I mean, if you understood at the battles and all the pettiness that went along with things and how things occur, yeah, you know, in his mind, there was not going to be women’s MMA because he, he knew that he looked, he was in charge of, you know, the leader of, you know, what the media would go to. Cause anything that happened in this, we have to understand anything that happened in the sport of MMA came out in the media. If something bad happened would come out in the media and the three letters attached to it was UFC even though it didn’t happen in the UFC, but UFC fighter wasn’t a UFC fighter, but they got attached with it a fight happens where someone gets hurt something bad happens USC and so he had to deal with those and so it was like, man, I’m not even going to do this with women. It was part of, Hey, I got enough problems just with people accepting men fighting on the ground and this goes all the way Josh back at UFC 21 was in Iowa and after the show, I went to dinner with a man named Lorenzo Fertitta, Glenn Carano, okay. Who was Gina Carano’s dad, flip home, Manskey, who was the medical advisor in Nevada at the time. And there was another gentleman. I can’t even think of his name, but he was just there. But, you know, and one of the things that, you know, Lorenzo Fertitta, all, all of those guys were with the Nevada state athletic commission, Lorenzo Fertitta was the time Glenn Carano was he Lorenzo wasn’t looking to buy the UFC. We were trying to get Nevada to look at regulating us to get, you know, regulation and be able to go to Nevada and, and fight in Vegas. And, you know, one of the things that Lorenzo said at the time, you know, during that dinner was, look, I have a real problem with a guy punching someone while he’s on the ground. And so I had to try to explain to him and I, and I used John Wayne as, you know, as my, you know, look, you’ve watched, you know, a ton of movies and Hollywood, you know, basically dictates what’s a fair fight, what’s dirty. I go, and so you’ve watched John. I said, when John Wayne gets into a fight in the Western, I said, John Wayne hits the guy, boom, hits him with the right hand, the guy goes down. John Wayne doesn’t jump, jump on top of a mountain and start hitting him with elbows. I go, he would be smart if he did. I said, John Wayne picks that guy, grabs him, picks him up, stands him up. and hits him and knocks him down again and he goes yeah and I go that’s not real fighting that’s Hollywood you know and and this is how it started you know and so that’s the way you know that was the perception of a guy that ends up buying the UFC okay these were the things you had to get through and Dana was being just completely honest with you know I didn’t think think we would have women but we we do and they’re fantastic and I thought best interview I’ve ever seen and the most honest interview I’ve ever seen with Dana White fantastic job. I’m gonna go back through I’m gonna go and listen to the whole thing so go back and listen to it but um yeah there’s a lot man there’s a lot of history in this sport that people didn’t realize they had to jump through to get to it to where we were the regulations state to state you got to think, what was it? 2016, 16, 17, that New York was the last state to legalize it. What year was that? New York was 20. 16. I want to say 20, 16. Think about how far since 93 to now. It took them that long to New York to jump on the bandwagon. The rest of the states had already all done it. Well, but hold on. OK, see, now let’s go back. New York was one of the states that I was doing fights in for the UFC and was one of the first to legalize it People don’t know that and they went away from it. Well again, you have different personalities and different Organizations and the Union UFC had made a deal with the government But the UFC was one promotion while extreme fighting battlecade was another and extreme fighting battle cases we don’t have to follow. We didn’t make a deal with you. We’re going here. And so as soon as they legalize it, then they try, they, they made it illegal. So a lot happens. Wow. Well guys, I’m going to enjoy the rest of my Sunday afternoon watching my chief spank the Jacksonville dragon wires. We’ve got to get a win. We are own one after losing last week to Detroit. Hey man, we didn’t have Travis Kelsey. We didn’t have Chris Jones. Both of them now are back this game. Chris Jones makes a nice contract, make a big money, make a big difference. And having Travis Kelsey makes a huge difference. So we’re not dropping balls and having pick sixes and shit. So we’ll see what happens. But it’s going to be the quarterbacks of Jacksonville. Yeah. Yes. Hopefully, hopefully, man. I mean, we’ll see. We’ll see. But hey, chief’s getting on today. I can’t wait to watch that game. So everybody else go to wainiammerch.com. Thank you guys so much wainiammerch.com pick up some of our merch available over there. It is getting to become sweater season. Even here in Texas. It was 78 degrees yesterday. It was beautiful. Fantastic. Beautiful, beautiful. So pick up hoodies. You got some hoodies, some sweatshirts and sweaters, sweaters and not sweaters. It’s sweatshirts, sweatshirts. Get a go. Whatever home books, sweaters, phone books, phone books, whatever it is keeps you warm. Also go to only fins.com slash Wayne in only fans.com slash Wayne and subscribe to us over there. Thank you guys so much. And John, take us away, buddy. Hey, I hope everyone enjoyed no Jay UFC like Dave say say Dave. Don’t say say it the way you normally say nacho nacho Okay, I can understand why he says not you but whatever for everyone out there. Thanks for tuning in. 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 It is in the books. We have finished it. Let me put this down just a little bit lower. There we go. Hi, my name is Luke Thomas. I’m one half of the Morning Combat Duo.

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Let’s do it. And we’re back. All right. There we have it. As I mentioned, thank you for joining me. I have a tweet up right now. But if you want to get a question and you can respond to it there and then we’ll talk about it through the whole thing. Let’s see, let’s see, let’s see. I got, they just released the scorecard so I’m trying to process this. Yeah, Jesus. They gave it, okay, so let’s talk about the results because we have to get to the scoring. The scoring is now a big part of the story and there’s really no other way to talk about it. So let’s do it like this. I’m gonna read you the results and then we’re just gonna get into all of the different things. So let me ask you guys a question. How did you score that fight? Because it feels like to me 48-47 in either direction is very much understandable and I don’t think you could really cry robbery if you got either one of those and you know we we did we did get a 48-47 one direction and then 48-47 the other direction but okay let’s read the results. Valentina Shevchenko and Aleksa Grosso fight to a split draw. Now you might be asking what does that mean for Aleksa Grosso? Well, no one beat her so she still has the title. She retains the belt. I don’t know what this will do for her pay. I don’t know how pay works for her considering she would be normally entitled by being a champion to pay per view points and instead it’s just on a Fight Night card that airs on regular television and or ESPN Plus without the pay per view component. So a lot of questions that are interesting about that. I don’t know how that would work on a night like tonight, but what I can tell you is the judges had it in fact I’ve got it here Excuse me for just a second. I’ve actually got a picture of it. I’m gonna. I don’t know if I can yeah I’m looking at it now. I don’t think I can share on the screen because I would have had to oh You know what I might be able to give me a second here. Let me see something I Might be able to do that actually. Let’s see if I can show this to you Yeah Let’s see if I can show this to you boom take a look at that So, here are the scores. This is from the broadcast that they put up at the end. So you have Judge Mike Bell, he had it 47-47, we’ll come back to that in a second. Sal Di Amato having it 48-47 for Shevchenko, I think his scoring works for me. Rounds one, three and four, I think you could do that, yes. And then Junichi Rokumidze, who I think is one of the best judges in the sport, he had it 48-47 for Grasso.

scorecard mirrors mine exactly two four and five for Grasso one and three for Shevchenko but again there is some room to play with but if you go back to the beginning it is Mike Bell with a ten eight round five gotta tell you I don’t know if I understand that one don’t know if I understand that one as a ten eight round five now I’m waiting for fight metric to update their numbers it might take a little bit. Yeah, here we go. We finally have them. By the way, Grasso landing significantly more. Now of course this fight went the end of the fourth and then all the way through the fifth, whereas the first fight ended up being just in the fourth. So there’s more time to throw. Shevchenko actually landing a little bit less. She went from 87 strikes landed, significant strikes landed in the first fight to just 84 tonight. And of course Grasso is credited with a knockdown. Let’s take a look at round five. That’s the one that’s most interesting to me. Now I think these numbers are are done updating. I’m going to double check just to be sure. Grasso had a minute 30 of control time, 20 again this is a quantitative total, 20 strikes Grasso landed for 23 for Shevchenko both attempting 43 to 41 so like in that 40 range. Now of course she got the back and attempted some submissions none of which were really close. I mean you couldn’t ignore them but they weren’t they weren’t on the precipice of scoring. It wasn’t what for example, who was it today, Godinez did to Reid, which was just an absolute fucking shellacking. It wasn’t that. Of the 20 strikes that Grasso landed, she targeted 11 to the head, 2 to the body, 7 to the leg.

For Shevchenko, she landed and targeted 20 to the head, 2 to the body, just 1 to the leg. So that’s close. That’s close. The minute 30 of control time which I’m not adding as control time I’m thinking it more of what it actually is which is grappling from the back right sort of like throwing the overhook by her essentially getting the back and then locking up the body triangle trying to go for chokes but they weren’t really all that close like she had to relinquish them because they weren’t there now she did have the good grounded pound again I think she I think for me Grasso won the fifth but I’m just I’m struggling to see where the 10-8 was here for that one. I don’t I don’t quite see it so also I’ll just say this like I don’t understand how he could get a 10-8 round five but like just zooming out from that for just a moment this fight ending in a draw is not exactly I’m not I’m not tying it to the scoring I’m simply saying forget about the scoring if you just looked at this fight This was a very competitive fight. This was a very competitive fight and the scoring was tight and these two were, you know, tooth and nail and there’s a lot of factors that would go into judging something like this. So like that it ended a draw in the sense of like not so much a satisfying conclusion but a fair conclusion based on how competitive it was in that very zoomed out sort of anti-contextual sense. I don’t think it’s that big a deal but the scoring of it is crazy. However, it ends up just kind of feeling like a loss for Valentina, which is not really fair, right? There is no loser in this bout. There’s also no winner, but She lost her title and then in the immediate rematch she kind of had a draw Are they gonna give her a third fight back to back to back? I don’t know if the division is really ready for that or what they want or how that’s gonna work also, this takes the record for or champions over the age of 35 in the women’s division. I think all time, when they’re over 35, it’s one and 11. So I guess now it’s one, 11, and one, right? So you can’t add it to the win column, but you can’t add it to the lost column either, which is kind of strange.

So that’s my scoring. I’ll just tell you flatly, I don’t know how you get a 10-8 for round five. I don’t really think the case is there. I do believe that what Grosso did in the fifth by taking the back, she was losing really up to that point. Not like getting her ass kicked, although the jab all night, and particularly in round five, was on point. I think Dana Cormie had used that word. Perhaps I’m inadvertently borrowing it. But nevertheless, her jab was on point. But I thought that what Grasso did in then getting the back and then attacking from there was better and more dominant and more threatening than even the accumulative total of what Shevchenko had produced in the round up to that point. So I thought that Grosso had kind of stolen that round with those late heroics. So, you know, an interesting one, just the same. Okay, what can we say about this fight? It’s a great fight. It was a great fight. What a great main event. We’ll talk about the Mexican theme stuff in just a minute, but, or a little bit later in the show, but great contest. Really well matched. I thought both, you know, we talked about this on morning combat all week We even did the pregame preview and if you just went back to the first fight What you really begin to notice was a couple of things one I think Shevchenko solved for some of this in this fight just much more offensive urgency, right much more intent And then cleaning up a lot like you didn’t see her doing any spinning stuff Now she did kind of give a little bit of the back which is how you know it kind of he’s trying to get a head toss right, so it came from the head toss, which is just kind of like a It’s a weak sauce move fifth round in a UFC title fight. I’ll just say like that. You know she’s obviously a decorated champion I’m just a fucking nobody, but I think a head-and-arm throw fifth round in a title I mean it cost her the win basically like that’s how weak sauce it is it cost her the win But in general, in the first fight, it didn’t matter really the stance, southpaw or orthodox, she was timing off the cross and they were standing really far apart and what you would end up seeing from Grasso is she’d take these big long steps. You can see that even today. So if you could get her not so much on the jab, but the jab and then the two that would come behind it, then her weight has really shifted forward and she’s now brought herself to you and it’s going to be hard for her to retract or get off at an angle, that’s what she would shoot and she would get on top. It was questionable amounts of damage, but in this fight in the third round She was able to get the back and then hold it for a significant period of time now She got some decent grappling positions as well in the second round Shevchenko did but she got fucking dropped She got dropped with a right hook. They both landed right hooks They were throwing and they both came up at the same time and then landed a right hook She got dropped in that one and that was and then eaten up to the body afterwards so I thought Grasso took round two but going back to that central tension that’s what they were trying to solve for so I was really wondering what is Grasso gonna do to like solve that problem at the same time not undermine the wrestling defensiveness that has to be there and you did see some of that she was able to catch under hooks although she got overpowered with one in the fourth I think was it the fourth round something like that maybe the third or fourth she got she hit the under hook and still got overpowered but it was hitting the under hook and then framing so if you could catch the underhook drop your hips and then you could get a frame on the inside of the neck or whatever she would particularly try to put it at that moment in time top of the crown of the head at certain times it worked fantastically it worked really really well like there was definitely Grosso let’s see so it’s funny Shevchenko actually did slightly worse in this fight in terms of takedowns she went in their first fight she did get four takedowns she did it on six attempts in this fight she did get four takedowns she got it on seven attempts so it actually went down just a little bit and then Grasso getting being credited with one takedown out of two attempts so I’m looking at some of the numbers here in any case I was looking to see how they were gonna solve that problem Grasso solving it as I just indicated with the frames and then the underhooking it wasn’t a perfect solution but it was a little bit better still nevertheless you know Shevchenko cleaning up a lot of the problems she She didn’t try and counter with the right hook like she was before and then when she would check hook she would actually step off at an angle which she didn’t do last time. Last time she would kind of like paw out in front with the right hand and to try and check and so Grasso would be able to close the distance and it wouldn’t catch her in time and then she’d get popped. That was a big reason she was in trouble like that. So I was really curious to see what happened. I did not think Grosso had as quite a good of an answer on those questions as I thought she might have. She definitely showed some improvement with a defensive wrestling. Again, just one difference in terms of attempted versus the last one that went in her favor as a defensive scorer, which is really no such thing, but you know what I’m trying to say here, like numerical totals.

But nevertheless, Shevchenko able to just be much more dominant on the mat in general, in totality but in general I thought that was still a big feature of this and what really saved honestly this one kind of surprised me like last time when you see Grasso land she lands and it has an effect don’t get me wrong but I will tell you like Shevchenko being like physically sturdy in the wrestling department that’s not surprising we’ve known she’s like a physical powerhouse for some time especially obviously at 125 because obviously she’s fought at 135 but dude Grasso look excuse me Grasso look like she was landing with much more authority as I mentioned they both came up at the same spot they both left their head like they dipped down to land and then came up at the same time and they landed I think Grasso was a little bit quicker so hers landed a little bit more authority dude she fucking floored Shevchenko in that second round that was surprising to me like just the shevchenko would look like she was i don’t know if it was the weight cut or just getting older or grasso is doesn’t look quite as it’s just weird that she’s so physically kind of overwhelmed at times and yet still has what appears to be much better punching power and i realize that too the the way in which power uh punching and wrestling strength and grappling strength how the way in which they relate there can be sometimes significant overlap sometimes very little overlap at all i’m just saying she doesn’t it’s just a little bit unusual i thought at a bare minimum, Shevchenko would have had a little bit more sturdiness to it, but no, Grosso must hit really fucking hard or certainly hard enough tonight to do damage because, you know, again, I think she pulled some some heroics out in the fifth second round, I think was going well enough, but obviously sealing it. Oh, no, sorry. It was after the fact that she got taken down. So, yeah, so I think it was going well enough before the knockdown. And again, Shevchenko couldn’t really do anything after that even though she got the double third round catching the back like that was pretty great like she was able to do that without much issue how much control time yeah i mean listen to this control time shevchenko minute 20 in the first round uh is this the right fight yeah minute 20 in the first round shevchenko 303 in the second round but again she got dropped so whatever and then didn’t do much with the grounded pound and also remember she had 303 minutes three minutes and three seconds of control time and only landed 15 strikes grosso landing 28 right so nearly almost doubling her in the third round neither of them doing much but three minutes and 16 seconds of control time just nine strikes to the grosso’s four so okay shevchenko takes that she’s up to one round four is tight 20 strikes to 19 just again these are numeric totals not qualitative each one gets a take down uh shevchenko a little bit more control time but not significant less than a minute and then you have that weird ass 10-8 where technically Shevchenko landed a little bit more numerically, but gave up a minute 30 of control time and then obviously control from the back and some submission attempts as well. She’s credited with a submission attempt there. Shevchenko credited with a submission attempt in round three, but Grosso getting the reversal. That’s the story of that fight, man. They are extremely, extremely well matched. Shevchenko just took away the spinning stuff for the most part. Again, the head toss is a little bit of a sort of in between category. Not pawing with the way she went with her right hook. I thought, you know, as I mentioned in the fifth round, kind of lighter on her feet, kind of staying a little bit further at range. You can hear the corner work that she had. Stay away from her, stay away from her, keep distance, keep distance. Because obviously, you know, that threatening forward pushing boxing that Grasso has, especially with the way the punches were landing. Jesus, it had a huge effect on her. It had a huge effect on her. Now maybe I’m missing something. I’m not sure what MMA Twitter is saying about a 10-8 round 5. I’m really curious to see what you guys think about it. I don’t get it. I don’t get the 10-8 round 5. I really don’t. I think people are reaching for it I don’t know what it would be I don’t know what that argument would be that’s funny someone wrote a funny little comment here I don’t get it folks I don’t get that one at all so the question is will they do will they do a rematch or I should say a trilogy I don’t think they’ll do an automatic one and it leaves a little bit of some undesirability about how this was supposed to set up a future narrative for any kind of potential title fight whether it’s Menon Fiorot, whether it’s Aaron Blanchfield, I don’t I don’t really know how that’s gonna go I don’t really know what the story is there. They can make either of those they’re still all great fights it’s not like they’re all of a sudden bad fights. Like I want to be clear about this both ladies come out of this fight tonight looking great I thought. Shevchenko showing an absolute undeniable competitive fire Grosso I think meeting it right when the moment called for it the most. I mean these are these are very very skilled competitors these are decorated competitors by no accident the whole nine but obviously you would have wanted for some kind of either a triumphant moment for Grosso to really seal this changing of the guard or you would want Shevchenko to be able to reclaim it with at least some kind of a fair authority.

By the way blaming Blaming the she’s like, yeah, it’s kind of like a mix. I don’t know if I’m not I don’t know what her words were exactly Shevchenko, but it was something to the effect of You know, yeah, you know, it’s kind of like a Mexican night here the crowd was like boo They didn’t like that shit at all. I mean it happens all excuse me. It happens all the time in boxing I don’t know why that’s like the craziest thing to suggest But I don’t I don’t know why Mike Bell scored it a 10-8 round five I don’t we don’t and of course the Commission’s not going to tell us and so we were just left to speculate on what what that could be I just feel like that’s a really fucked up scorecard at least a fucked up scorecard as it pertains to that round the rest of it’s fine he had let’s see he had rounds one and three and four for Shevchenko yeah fine I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s really a problem at all I didn’t have it that way but I don’t I don’t think it’s any bit of a problem I will say for as much as the scoring might have been weird in this one I do think that the the take home from all of this should be just how much this division has developed. This division’s reputation a year or two ago was that it was the division of like plumbers and Uber drivers who were just part-time fighters. And yeah, Shevchenko might have been good. I’m not endorsing this worldview. I’m merely articulating it. And Shevchenko, she’s good, but she’s just beating up on a division that just exists between two good ones at the time. 135 was a lot better, not so much a year ago but you know sort of like post-Ronda it was still doing pretty well and and then you know she comes along and she’s beating people that I think a lot of the audience didn’t they respected Shevchenko for her abilities but not that they thought that she was beating up on the world’s toughest division. The maturation of talent in this division 125 has dramatically improved. This rivalry is extremely interesting in that way. We thought that Shevchenko for the longest was going to be able to only get beaten by Father Tom. I do think that probably plays some kind of role here as well, but she’s being technically pushed out as well. It’s not like you’re looking at a clearly lesser physical version of her. Again, the punch resistance is kind of an interesting one. I don’t know exactly what to attribute that to. Grasso might just be a dynamic puncher in ways that seem somewhat surprising, but she would otherwise, I would otherwise attribute Shevchenko’s, I would otherwise describe her attributes as still, not quite in prime, but quite, you know, she’s quite still with it. But the rest of the division has just climbed up to that level to join her. That’s how you can tell. It wasn’t like she was was like oh you’re looking at some cheap facsimile of what she once was right oh you know you’re just looking at a clearly degraded version like some washed-up boxer who’s still got enough you know of a name to fill a decent arena in their hometown and then you know maybe win a round or two in some kind of 10 round contest but that’s not what I don’t that’s not what it is do these these these fucking ladies have gotten way better let me pull up 125 here if I can. The rankings for just a second. I don’t know what this is going to do. It’s not going to move them obviously. At 125, I mean you got Grasso sitting there. Let’s go ask Pound for Pound, excuse me. Grasso is your champ. Then you have Shevchenko. Blanchfield sitting at two. Fioreau who didn’t wow me in her last contest but is certainly a good fighter sitting at tied for two and then four is Tyla Santos who I think proved against Blanchfield that she’s still a force to be reckoned with. Chukhagan sitting at five. They are trying to push some of the older names out who had their chances against Shevchenko and kind of fell short. Andrade, I think, is on, you know, hard times. Lauren Murphy is in that space as well. Obviously, she’s an older athlete, but then you got eight, Macy Barber, Viviana Rujau at, or Araujo, sorry, I don’t speak Portuguese, at 10, Amanda Hiba still kind of, you know, roaming around there at 11, Casey O’Neil, Tyler Santos, Tracy Cortez, who had a big win tonight as well, and then Karine Silva. So there’s just a lot, you can still see some of the older sort of senior members of this class, of this weight class, hanging around in that top 10, but I think their days are numbered and Shevchenko’s inability to recapture this with any kind of direct authority speaks to this larger changing of the guard that’s happening in this division more generally. Pretty remarkable. Are there any other stats? Let me look at the targeting. The targeting for Grasso, yeah, this doesn’t, Man, Shevchenko, headhunting. She went 76% of her targets were to the head. What were they in the last fight? I bet it was something similar. In the last fight, Shevchenko targeted the head 78%. Yeah, her numbers barely changed at all. Jesus, Grasso was 52 in that fight, and then this one, 64. So she actually went to the head a little bit more as well. They were both headhunting a little bit. But Shevchenko didn’t wildly change her offense. She took away the deficiencies of things that more readily cost her. That head and arm throw, the hip toss notwithstanding in the fifth. She cleaned up some of the stuff that cost her this time and then was much more mindful about distance but didn’t change a huge amount. Didn’t change this vast degree of what she was applying here. This wasn’t Amanda Nunes completely changing stances to go and find some way to figure out how she was gonna get around the dipping jab of Julianna Pena. No, it was none of that. She just kinda stuck to what she was good at, tightened up some of the screws, and then put in basically the same game plan and got a lot of the same targeting, a lot of the same numbers. Better top control results in terms of time, but ultimately insufficient for getting a win, however you wanna describe the scoring in the fifth there for Judge Mike Bell. And I think for Grasso, as I mentioned, catching the underhooking, the framing, didn’t have so much of an answer for closing the distance, but at times was able to get Shevchenko to go into combination work with her, and then she was able to punch with her. And then when she did, popped her, and then, you know, again, I don’t know if it’s a punch resistance issue, or Grosso is just kind of a dynamic puncher that we didn’t really fully realize, or certainly I didn’t fully realize. Either way, it was, it made a big, big difference. Also, goddamn, Grosso’s ability to find late heroics when she needs them is pretty remarkable. And if you make one error with her when you’re tied up, right? Because it was the spinning one, or the spinning kick the first time, and then she just climbs on the back and then ultimately gets the over the jaw, rear naked choke in the first one. In this one, the hip toss, she just gets basically, like, basically Grosso hits a throw-by, basically, not quite, but hits a throw-by, and then is able to take the back from there. Her ability to weaponize the back instantly, instantly, is extremely good. She is quite gifted at that. and it obviously has massive consequences that she’s able to do that. So I don’t really know. I would like to see Blanchfield get it. I think Blanchfield is a much more interesting test for Grasso and frankly, that’s a tougher, rougher fight, which I think might be a little bit cooler to see if I can be candid with you, but I honestly just don’t know which way the UFC is gonna go with this one. I really don’t. This one was a little bit like, what do we do now? You move the chains, but there’s no obvious direction in the way in which they’re talking about it, or which we had kind of hoped, I should say, would be there by now. All right, let’s see, how long have I been going? 31 minutes, yeah. Let’s take a look at some of the other fights on this card. This was not a pay-per-view, although I will say, this was the biggest Fight Night has felt in a really long time. I do wanna talk about some of the production accoutrement that they added that I thought really lifted the broadcast. And it’s like, well, dude, why doesn’t the UFC do more of this shit? But okay, man, I look like I got hit by a fucking bus today. Good Lord, man. It is, it is shocking. I haven’t always been a dodge Omni, but I am now. All right, let’s go to some of these other results here if we can from the card. How about this very underwhelming co-main? Jack Dilla-Madeleina defeating Kevin Holland via split decision, 28-29, and then two 29-28s. I thought Della Maddalena, I’m gonna call him JDM because I don’t want to keep saying his name, it sounds like I’m saying, oh Black Betty Bambalam the whole time. I thought that, I thought that he won it. I thought that he pretty cleanly won it. I thought he won the first and the second and that Holland was a little bit busier in the third to get it done. But this fight was underwhelming to me. I thought it started out, I actually liked the first round. I thought the first round was pretty great, pretty competitive. I gotta tell you, what JDM did in this fight, I’m seeing it more and more from a lot of strikers. If you haven’t been watching MMA for all that long, you might not fully appreciate this. Guys, strikers having both good offense and good defense by the way in which they shell and the way in which they roll or whatever and the way in which they use their feet, both for distance management as well as evasive footwork, you’re seeing more and more evidence of that, and of guys who can do that effectively for like winning strategies in the UFC. Jack DeLaMette obviously is one of those. Now, Christos Gyagos would not be a good example of that, but I thought Kyle Nelson winning, we’ll talk about him a little bit later, I thought was a good example of something like that. You’re seeing a lot more strikers with sturdy defense, good offense who are selective about their shots, they are selective about the amount of offense, they fight much more disciplined, and they use their feet effectively to both maintain range, disengage when needed, and then certainly, you know, move their opponent, either pulling them into traps or just using evasive footwork to get out of the way. Daily Matalana, or again, I’m going to say JDM, JDM was just much better about that. Like Kevin Holland, to me in this fight I have a lot of respect for his ability I have a lot of respect for his willingness to take fights on short notice it’s not that I thought like I got a good look at someone here tonight who I thought was like performing at their best I just thought it was a guy performing and they you know when you perform regularly people think that like it can like that that regularity ultimately heightens your ability to do better but the most active guys Historically, I don’t think hardly any of them ever get title shots, Cerrone did and got like crushed in it, like when he fought Rafael Dos Anjos, like that cowboy style of taking fights. Now there might be a real career logic to it, which is you might actually surmise that your best way long-term of getting the most amount of money is not being able to beat all the rest of the guys in your field, but by fighting exciting, staying active, the UFC rewarding that, getting bonuses, that sort of thing, like you might actually feel like you can make more money that way and I would understand that I don’t I don’t take issue with it on that but what you cannot argue is that that kind of regularity is best for peak function it might be good on certain times there can be certain moment waves of momentum you can ride that’s true but in general against the very best guys that style of that that frequency of fighting doesn’t really do you a whole lot of good and in this fight I felt like number one he He couldn’t really break the defensive shield that the guard that JDM was using. He wanted to be long range.

He obviously looked much bigger in terms of the frame than JDM. But it looked to me like if the guy is catching everything and blocking everything and rolling with it, dude, you gotta peel it. Remember what Sean Strickland was doing to Izzy? How he caught him with that right? He peels the guard and then punches with the other one. He wanted to keep him long, and I thought some of the front kicking was pretty great, actually. I thought that was pretty interesting. But he didn’t have a great ability to, he was getting the one, he was the one being backed up, which was a problem. I thought he needed to be the one doing the backing up. And then, dude, guard manipulation, you gotta peel. Again, I’m just a dude on the internet. These are pro fighters. But in a way in which you watch that fight, like was that the ultimately the best strategy? It felt to me like he was kind of feeling it out and he got kind of going by the third, but by the third round it felt to me, personally speaking, your mileage may vary, it felt to me like a sparring round. Round three, not the entire fight, but certainly round three to me just felt, I don’t know man, like I don’t know what we were doing there. I just didn’t really enjoy it all that much. They were just kind of touching. Colin couldn’t quite break through. JDM didn’t quite answer in the third. Now he was answering him in the first and the second doubling up on some of those left hooks. I thought that was pretty great and some of that getting through but not the most exciting affair. However for JDM this to me I think said a lot of good things. One Kevin Holland is a quality opponent even when I didn’t think he got the best from him tonight but nevertheless he is talented he hits very hard and JDM being able to kind of just navigate all of that by keeping the most of the fight at his range and then most of the time landing when he had clearly better positioning I thought was a really good sign like not taking as much damage as he did before being selective but effective with his strikes and then diagnosing what he was getting people at MMA apparently don’t want to work so Kevin Holland was using the Philly shell right so Philly shell you’re gonna get in a bladed stance you’re gonna try and catch everything here and the other hand’s gonna be up here so you can kind of roll the punches kind of bounce off or you catch it here Sean Strickland was doing a version of that but he instead of being bladed he was much more square we’ve been over this a million times I have a breakdown on my personal YouTube channel about the whole thing for folks who may not know on the Philly shell what you would want to do is you want to go to the open side What’s the open side? It’s the shoulder with the hand that’s down You actually want to move over to that side and you saw daily battle in a kind of double up on that side Which is not quite the same thing, but Holland was able to make it work as they indicated on the broadcast They’re right. We talked about this with Izzy. We talked about this With Sean Strickland that fight last weekend. He’s able to kind of roll the shoulder right kind of and he’s able to like duck a little bit He catches everything up here, right and then he leans he leans really really really far back It works in MMA if the guy is trying to chase you you’re already at long range that octagon is way more open your footwork doesn’t need to be quite as clean you can just kind of back up sometimes even in straight lines and if you can lean enough you can get out of the way but the problem is like in a boxing ring for example that wouldn’t work for shit you’d get backed up very quickly into that then they would go around to that open side and absolutely annihilate you from there there’s so many points if you can if you can work an angle on someone using the filly shell to the open side. I mean, you’ll destroy them. But in MMA, you can just get away with it. The part that’s kind of interesting to me, and they brought some of them on the broadcast, and again, I did a whole thing on Sean and Izzy last week. You can go check it out. Dude, when you lean like that, like when Sean Strickland, people are asking, what could Izzy have done to have fought Sean Strickland? Again, Sean is much more squared and he does a lot of like heavy hand parrying whereas um Dillon Madeline is kind of like catching and stuff and we’re actually talking about Kevin Holling he just kind of really like leaning and getting out of the way it’s not as active and in front it’s more of a retreating Philly show than it is a walk forward Philly show but the point I’m trying to make is like people are asking what could he have done to to counteract um Sean like what were some things that were available to him that he just didn’t go to we talked about one going to that open side. I thought that was one. The other one was, it was like to me, one of the things that was something of an indictment on Izzy is that if you get a guy balancing on one leg and he’s leaning or even if he’s balancing on two legs and he’s leaning and he’s already, let’s say, transferred his defense or he’s come up high, whatever, like he’s doing this, he can’t move anymore. He has to, he can only, he can only go back to his balance before he can do anything else. You double leg him. Dude, this is what Jan Blachowicz did to Izzy when they fought. Get him using all of that trunk and shoulder movement to get off balance. What does Izzy like to do? He likes to invite pressure so he can hook in tight and he’s kind of off balance doing it. He got him off balance and then picked him up and sat him down. Now JDM didn’t necessarily need to do that here, but if folks are asking what could he have done, if the guy is able to resist and you can’t keep up with him and he’s able to get away with it because the octagon is so big and the angles are so open where you don’t have the same constraints of the four 90-degree angles that you would get with a ring, then you just go back to the MMA terms. If you can’t get the angle around him, go underneath him, pick his ass up and drop him. But they never really got there. They never really got there. So folks would be like, oh, we’re seeing more Philly Shell. We’re seeing more Philly shell in the case of Shawn versus Izzy, and now JDM versus Kevin Holland, and in both fights, all four fighters not even trying to go to the ground, right? So yeah, the Philly shell in MMA can be more utilized in circumstances like that, but if your opponent has designs on taking you down, yes, you can kind of keep that hand low and you can catch it underhook from there, but I’m just saying, leaning back like that, dude, you’re going to get taken down immediately. Like you would never wrestle from that position Right if you were if you were someone’s like give me the most optimal place from which you want to defend and attempt to take Down like you think leaning like this would be that It would never be that so Didn’t need it Didn’t matter in the end. Let’s look at some of the numbers here. Those are always of interest to your boy Very quickly. Yeah, Dela Maddalena actually landing less But a lot of what Kevin Hall was throwing was like some of the pitter-patter stuff a lot of it was catching on the arms It was just like leg kicks. Some of the leg kicks were hard. Some weren’t it was a bit of a mix Overall 127 for Kevin Holland 105 for Jack de la Maddalena. They were nearly even in round one 40 to 41 49 to 34 for Kevin Holland But again a lot of that is gonna be just you know not high quality stuff and then that gap narrowed a little bit 38 to 30 in the third their targeting is fairly similar. Kevin Holland 46 to 43 to the head, Kevin Holland 25 to 34 to the body, and then 27 to 21 for the leg. Now, there’s not much of a story there, except I thought De La Maddalena just much more disciplined, careful, selective, not fighting, or I should say not striking on Kevin Holland’s terms, right? Kevin Holland’s like knocking at the door consistently. he’s not really going then. He’s going at times when it’s much more advantageous, when there’s less risk, or there’s much more defined openings, either through position pulling, or pressure, or whatever fainting, or if Holland’s going and then getting on the outside of it, or getting around it, that kind of a thing. Much better in that way. There was attempts from Holland to do some work in the clinch. I think a lot of that was ultimately denied him at times too. Was that the first part of the, was it first round? I have to double check, but in any case, failed two takedowns, Kevin Holland in the second round and then that’s it. So a bit of a disappointing one. You might be asking where that puts him in the rankings. If we look at welterweight, which just has like no movement at all, Kevin Holland was sitting at 13, Dele Madeline at 14, so it’ll be something of a bump up. But you’ve got Ian Machado-Garry sitting at 11, Neil Magni sitting at 12, Lukey sitting at 10. you Vicente Luque taking on JDM that sounds that sounds great I’m all in favor of that give me some of that Shavkat Rachmanov by the way was supposed to fight Kelvin Gastelum on this card and this fucking guy still has no fights they don’t want a piece of him they don’t want to fight him even a little bit so I think you could get away with I don’t think they want to match up JDM with Gary like two kind of you know up-and-coming guys and there’s some other names that kind of need some shuffling out so I don’t think they’ll put that one together but the Vicente Luque one Sean Brady they could run that one back again Sean Brady’s still sitting at 9 any of those I think could be great for Kevin Holland does it really hurt his stock I don’t think so I I don’t think that’s like super damaging, right?

I think in general, what? He kind of underperformed, but that style is one where at times you will overperform and at times you will underperform and you kind of yo-yo like that a little bit. And this was just one of the nights where he didn’t look bad, he didn’t look bad. He just looked… I just didn’t see enough specific, he didn’t seem like he was diagnosing the particular problem in front of him as quickly as he could have. And I’m guessing, you know, part of that’s obviously he’s fighting a very difficult guy to beat. That’s going to be part of the explanation. I have a feeling part of it is also just kind of like, oh, I’m going to take my time and kind of figure it out. Like there’s not that, like contrast that with the urgency that Valentina had, granted in a draw of an effort, but look at the urgency that she employed. I didn’t quite see that from Kevin, so I still think he’s a very talented guy. Fans will still love him. They love guys who just get active, they say yes to everyone. That’s definitely a lane that you can drive, but it’s not going to maximize the wins. There is just a natural and inherent tradeoff to all of that, and you saw some of that today. All right, elsewhere on this card, let’s look at how about Raul Rosas Jr. defeating Terrence Mitchell at 54 seconds of round number one. Now let’s try, okay, any analysis about this kid goes either in one direction or the other with nothing in between. Like it drives me fucking nuts that the analysis of this guy, they’re like, oh my God, he’s back. He’s the future of the sport.” I’m like, guys, if you’re telling me you can look at something like you looked at today, and I don’t mean like good or bad, I just mean you got enough information. You saw his like contender series fight, you looked at any of his previous fights, the last one that he lost, and then this one, you can look at that and you can be like, oh God, future of the sport right there. Because I’m telling you, I can’t. Now I want to be clear about what I’m saying. I’m not declaring to you he is not because I don’t know that either What I think you can say Responsibly is there were a couple of really big improvements that we needed to see this time number one The guy headed into this fight with less His his strikes landed per minute were less than one I don’t think I’d ever seen that except until I saw his opponent who also was that this was a tailor-made opponent who likes to go to the ground, fights a bit like a spaz. This was a tune-up, there’s nothing wrong with that. The kid’s fucking 18, so I’m not in any way bashing it. So if he had lost this, that would have been calamitous. Winning it and then winning it quickly is great, but it doesn’t like, oh, future of the sport. No, it doesn’t mean that at all. The two great things that you can take from it is that one, he used ground and pound this time from the back. We already knew he could find the back very well. Like that part is, he is quite good at finding the back. Great, great job with that. And then he went for the heavy ground and pound. Much better, much better. Loved every part of that. I was like, okay, great. It was a little bit wild. It was a little bit reckless, but it was effective. And it was so much better than just constantly swimming and hand fighting from the back and trying to get chokes and everything. just way better, way better. So that was great. He dropped the kid on the feet. Now he was getting hit a little bit early and he was swinging wild as shit and the guy was wide open coming right at him. So he landed a good shot and dropped him. So that part was better too. He was starting to use his hands. So what I think you can say is, okay, he is now employing a much wider arsenal of weapons to get the job done and is showing, in certain cases, great aptitude. I think anything attached to work from the back he’s going to excel at, that part seems very clear. And on the feet, I don’t think you can infer much for an opponent who doesn’t have great striking and was a tailor-made guy they brought in to fight him, basically. but nevertheless he got the job done even if it was wild so what you should say is the opening up of the weapons much better it was wild and unrefined but I think turning that corner is important to build the next set of things like this is this is now clearly headed in a much healthier formidable direction but what you need to look for is not like some oh some fucking beast who’s just out here like he’s fighting like crazy the guy was like a minus 700 favorite heading out there tonight he was supposed to win and he did so he did his job but what you want to look for and before I’ll ever be ready to be like this future of the sport shit he has to methodically win right he has to beat someone of significance and he has to do it methodically right not just raging into a guy which like it like when you go what if you go like regional level MMA you’ll see rage monsters get all kinds of success in regional level MMA all kinds because their opponents just are not capable of standing up to that but you get to the highest level and the opponents are much better about standing up to that and that shit doesn’t work nearly as well so you know I know what everyone’s gonna say oh here’s Luke Hayton on him I’m not he looked better tonight I thought he was gonna win predicted he was gonna win he did win And he should, again, that was, you know, he did it right and looked better this time than he did the last time by a considerable margin. I consider all these good things. What I’m just not going to tolerate is, you know, oh, future of the sports shit. You can’t possibly know that based on what we’ve seen. And everyone wants to do this bit, which is, all right, you know, he’s 18 years old and he’s in the UFC. Guys, this isn’t the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Like you don’t get to grade them on a curve. Oh, he’s in the UFC, but he’s 18. Right. But he’s in the UFC.

And they can give him some interesting fights along the way to help build him, but the point is either you succeed in the UFC or you don’t. What will be remarkable is if he becomes the youngest champion, which is still his stated goal, which by the way I’m not saying is off the table. Listen to what I’m saying very clearly. clearly I’m not saying it’s in any way off the table I’m saying the way you should look at this is the way we looked at it with John Jones John Jones started beating the fuck out of everyone first and then we started noticing his age we don’t start with his age and then grade him on a curve because he gets a win not if you want to heap rhetoric on top of him like oh my god this guy’s got you know he’s gonna be he’s gonna be champion within two years like you just You can’t look at what you saw tonight and think you can declare that. You can’t. You can’t declare it’s not true, you can’t declare it isn’t. You can only have that moment and what it was good for relative to the last one when you have someone who is green like Rosas Jr. is. He is very, very, very, very green. So if you wanna say he looked a lot less green in certain respects, I completely agree. He did his job, he did his job very effectively. This was important to get back in the win column. Like he did, he executed on exactly all the things that I thought he basically needed to. But can we please pump the brakes on beating a guy who he was very much expected and essentially they match made him, designed to beat him, beats him authoritatively and like this is evidence of eminent title implication. Like it is not those things. So just be fair with the analysis to him. Be fair to him. He has a long way to go. He’s very green. He’s got some things that are really good, back control, and then everything else looks pretty green to me. And then, you know, the other issue, too, was in the last fight he didn’t have proper resource management. He just kind of went hard in the first and then fell apart a little bit in the second and then really fell apart in the third. He was not managing his resources well on this one, either. Didn’t matter because he got the guy knocked out. I saw the fight, too. But if, again, you do that kind of shit against someone who’s really good, it will go poorly. It will go poorly. So it always sounds like, I always sound like just old man hater every time Rosas Jr. comes up and it’s only because everyone else is saying, oh, this guy is Jesus Christ reincarnated. Jesus Christ came back to earth, y’all. Look at fucking Jesus Christ. He’s beaten the shit out of these people. Jesus Christ is back. I’m like, guys, I don’t think he’s Jesus Christ. At a bare minimum, I don’t think you can tell that he’s Jesus Christ. How about that? No, no, no, no. This guy’s out there walking on water out there in that octagon. I’m like, he’s not, he’s not, there’s not, he’s not really walking on water. Oh, no, no, no, no. He’s turning water into wine out there. I’m like, guys, he’s not, he’s not doing that. He’s not doing that. He’s just doing good work for someone who’s very green and has decided that they want to go biggest promotion in the world when they’re green so that’s it that’s the whole that’s the whole bit all right good win important win helpful win some clear improvements along the way that’s all you can say for a kid this green you cannot say anything else because it’s just no fucking way to know he’s way way way way way too green all right Daniel Zellhuber defeating Christos Giyagos with the anaconda was that one almost like a second round just Lightning anaconda drops him with it, right? I think he tried to sit up it to our tried to sit up and then scramble and then he hit him He stopped him with the he stopped the he sprawled on him and then locked up the anaconda turned over he Gator rolled through on the Gator roll came through and then Giyagos tried to like grab the back of his leg. I’ve seen this It’s more commonly you see that where guys get a head and arm triangle Where they’ll pull up their own leg and then grab the back of their own leg and it’s designed to like pull essentially to Put enough pressure that the choking arm comes a little bit off and you can get a little bit of relief there But you know it doesn’t it wasn’t gonna work because of the way the anaconda is situated because it goes more of a twisting side angle anyway He gets it I Thought that was amazing. I thought there was a lot of things that were great, but he got rocked in that fight early So, he showed some great poise and resilience, but I also thought he was having a little bit of trouble diagnosing how to solve some of that problem until later into the second when he was able to like, once he was able to corner Gyagos and limit his movement with much better cage cutting when he finally got his range right, dude, he was just significantly more hittable. And then you were like, oh right, here we go. I mentioned, we talked about the JDM and the Kyle Nelson game plan, Gyagos was trying something couldn’t quite get it to the same degree, but you could see he was trying, but finally once he got cornered by Zell Huber, then it was a different fight. It was a completely different fight. So great resilience, plenty of stuff for him to work on over there at Xtreme Couture, but a good win and a much better win I think for the adversity that he kind of had to overcome.

And then lastly but not least Kyle Nelson getting a win over Fernando Padilla. 29, 28, 30, 27. Didn’t quite understand the 30, 27, but the right guy won. Kyle Nelson, again, kind of like JDM, slightly different, but really mindful of the range, never letting Fernando kind of get close enough, begin to build an offensive rhythm, catching everything, blocking. When guys can’t land, it not only does it obviously take away the impact of that particular strike, but a lot of these guys are kind of momentum builders or offensive system builders and they need something to score so they can build stuff around it or begin to open up into other places and when you deny them that when the stuff just doesn’t land when they catch it and then they’re off on a corner and then off on a corner and they’re rotating you just don’t even know what to throw you just kind of like well what the fuck do I do with this shit you know I can’t I have all of these keys on my belt and I cannot open the door really no matter what I do so it ends up kind of Offensively muting them to a degree in the end you got you got some of that It was a bit of a learning experience I think for him a Kyle Nelson showing real improvement that was a very again I’m gonna say it discipline performance from him, and I thought he was landing heavy shots. I was amazed at Fernando’s chin Frankly, and you know he obviously can thump as well He Nelson’s face was messed up, and then you know he’s like after he won And he was like my wife is pregnant the crowds like boo fuck this gringo, you know So anyway So that’s what you got there with that very quickly. How about loop? I’m just gonna mention something here Lupita Godina is defeating Elise read just an absolute one-way fucking ass-kicking Goddamn, I mean just Wrangled her arm with this brutal arm bar attempt that went on and on shouts to read for being tough as shit But that was hard to watch and she gets out of it But then she gets tuned up a little bit on the first round She got dropped and she gets tuned up big time in the second and then finally, you know Was able to catch the back and then polish her off read was tough You know, she was trying her best but good lord that was just that was a I mean high amplitude throws you name it and Godinez did whatever she want. Roman Kapilov beating Josh Framed with a punch to the body that was fucking great. I’ll have more on that a little bit later. You had another no contest with a controversial stoppage between Chárez and Lacerda. We’ll talk about that on regular MK. Tracy Cortez getting back to the win column on this one. Jazz DeVisius just not moving her head. Fading a little bit Cortez in the second but then answering the call a little bit in the third, storming back, doing enough to stay out of bad grappling positions and then launch her own offense thereafter and then the opening bout was just kind of a there was one of the scorecards that was 30-24 it’s like dude if you lose 30-24 you have to go that person’s like house and mow their yard or something that’s really really bad you know before I get to these questions let me talk if I can about from this card the UFC noche thing the Noche UFC. I thought it was great. I wasn’t sure how it was gonna go, you know? I mean, basically what they did for you tonight was they gave you what it’s like when a big Mexican headliner fights on this day in Las Vegas in boxing. It’s just like this. It’s a big Mexican party, and when I went to Canelo versus Mayweather, the tourism board in Mexico was handing out stuff all week to people and doing all kinds of advertising. When I say it’s a Mexican party, I genuinely mean it. It’s not just a bunch of Mexicans are there, but rather they are promoting the national interests to a degree, certainly on that day they were, of Mexico, but more broadly, so many different elements of Mexican history as it relates to sports and otherwise, and then moments of these touch points of culture. They were using Spanish language for some of the weight class graphics on the screen. They had, rather than the sort of ordinary ominous music for Tail of the Tape, they had someone playing the tambour. They had great music in between to throw to commercial. All of the Mexican guys coming out all walked out to Vicente Fernandez and just all these iconic Mexican figures. And then you had all of these different, like Gilbert Melendez narrating a piece about these important moments in history for Julio Cesar Chavez and I think Mario Lopez of connecting MMA fighters to the rich history of boxing that obviously Mexico occupies. I thought in general, it was great. It was great. It made the night feel bigger. It didn’t hurt that the main event was a great scrap, scoring notwithstanding the main event was a great scrap. The crowd was, I’m telling you, I’ve seen Canelo fight so many times that you get jaded by it, you know, and if you ever saw like Kodo fight in the garden for the Puerto Ricans showing up for him you get something similar from that but dude I’ve seen these Mexican fans on non Canelo weekends in Vegas this is what it’s like like they’re they’re they’re like the most rock ribbed fight fans maybe on the planet they show up big time for their own and they obviously now have a crop of talent that they can really believe in in MMA the UFC coming around to this I wasn’t sure how they were gonna handle it I think in general it really worked The only thing I thought that wasn’t great, and again, there’s a particular kind of social-media loser that they’re prominent in all kinds of places, but in MMA, they’re the kind of person who has no ability to absorb any part of the world around them without then refracting it through some kind of culture war lens. Like, they actually can’t even process anything without automatically trying to understand it as a function of where it fits in some kind of culture, or even when it doesn’t really fit.

So, people got on me for one of my tweets being like, I didn’t really like the Kevin Holland taco-eating thing, and people were like, oh, here’s our fucking virtue signal. Guys, I’m not an expert on Mexican culture, but from what I have seen of it, it’s significantly deeper and richer than I ever learned in American public schools, but more to the point, if a gringo is bringing you on camera a nearly three-pound taco that looks like it’s been designed to feed somebody’s dinosaur that has been made by some weird billionaire somewhere, like who else could eat something like this, you’re not having a Mexican culinary experience. You’re having a Texas culinary experience. You’re having an American one at a bare minimum, but you’re having a Texas one. He’s like, he’s rib busting fucking 72 pound steak. If you could eat it under two hours without having a coronary and, you know, in the words of Patton Oswalt, eating all of our angry food, you’ll get a free t-shirt on the way to the fucking ER. That’s Texas. Like, you know, you can tell a story about Mexico’s rich history with food without somebody bringing out dinosaur portions that only exist in places like Texas get the fuck out of here with this like please be serious they can only understand it as like where does this fit in in the culture war I don’t really know so I’m gonna put it here because I can’t possibly understand what what what good faith point Luke was trying to make so let me just let me just culture war this that’s really my handicap because I have no other frame of reference I don’t read books right guys I didn’t hate it and I realized that it was a it was a light-hearted segment I’m just saying don’t lecture me about like well this is you know we’re all having fun this is a Mexican thing and the guys bring it out of taco that you know is the size of a fucking Ford Fiesta get the fuck out of here all right neither here nor there let’s get to some of your questions here and be done with it before I get fucking cancelled all right here we go what do we got. Mike Bell gave Grasso the fifth 10-8. That’s insane. Yep. This really highlights what the Strickland team talks about with optics and closing out a round strong. Yep. Great point. This person writes, I thought Valentina’s damage was much more than Grasso’s in the last 90 seconds, but control looks important. That’s a fair point. I didn’t quite see it that way, but I can understand what you mean. People say the trilogy might be inevitable now. I don’t know about that, but it could be. Sebastian Hackl. Ooh, I think I think he’s a WWE guy, if I’m not mistaken, yes he is. Does tonight’s result from Rojas really show us how much in terms of overall growth or development? Again, a little bit, some very valuable, but we’re still way over here before, we’re not even close to a place where we can have bigger conversations. Still way over here. Should Joe Martinez have been the announcer instead of Bruce Buffer? So that would have been nice, because Joe would have done a great job, I think was he calling there was a top rank had a Mexican Independence Day card as well I don’t I don’t know if he was calling that but I know he does work for them, too So maybe he was booked already for something like that. I don’t know. But yes, it would have been I mean buffer did a fine job but you know From Guadalajara. It’s it’s a little you know, he gringos it up a little bit. But in other words, it was a fine job job. All right. If they do the trilogy, Blanchfield’s going to pull some hair out tonight. Agreed. They shouldn’t. Do you think Blanchfield exposes Alexis’ takedown defense? Yeah, that could be bad for her. That could be bad for her. And also, she has heavy ground at times. So. Should we blame bad judging for the draw or the fact that Valentina ironically ended up getting a 10-8 scored against her because she attempted that sloppy hit? Well, what What you’re saying is karma, but that’s not the same thing as saying was that fair scoring. That’s a little bit of a different question. Does this technically count as a defense for Grasso? No. Did JDM restore the hype train? I think a little bit, yeah. Yeah, that was a good win. I mean, it wasn’t a dominant win. Round three was like, but it was a very quality win by virtue of who he beat and then the way in which he did it methodically, right. I’ve noticed that this person writes that MMA boxers don’t use uppercuts enough against opponents who are trying to level change on them. I thought you saw a little more shovel punching, but I thought you saw that from Zell Huber. Can someone tell me how Valentina won that fourth round? I didn’t have it for her, but I don’t think it was like such a reach that it’s impossible to understand that. How many edibles do you think Mike ate? Don’t know Someone writes since that this person writes since Valentina is old and washed who should Grasso fight next I mean she’s not old and washed Do they need to run it back? I don’t think so. What should be done to Mike Bell Well, the question is not what should be done. The question is what is gonna be done and you guys know what the answer is nothing Nothing, absolutely. Fuck all will be done. You know that like you we can complain about it I think you’re right to complain about it like I don’t think the Commission should just like don’t pretend that nothing happened But they go what’s gonna happen to him motherfucker. You know what’s gonna happen nothing nothing Nothing, I will say that they handled the instant replay right for the for the prelim card about which we’ll discuss on Monday, but What’d you think of the commentary tonight? I thought DC and Dom were pretty flat this person writes especially compared to Laura Senko Laura I think is the best one. They’ve got you know Dom going after Chris Tione for stopping that fight, the Lacerda fight and then being like, well, watch Herb Dean. He’s going to get it right. I mean, just driving the point home, I’ll put it that way. What’s Mike Bell say? Yeah. So many questions about the 10-8. Mike Bell needs to be investigated. Not investigated, just didn’t go right. He just did a poor job. I don’t know how else to say it. This is, yeah, all right. I think that’s it, I think that’s it. I am tired, I am tired as fuck. I am old as fuck and I am tired as fuck. Like I said, I haven’t always been a Dodge Omni, but I turned into one. So I’m gonna go, I’m gonna go. I’m gonna say thank you for watching. We’re gonna remind everyone, Monday’s MK, we haven’t heard from BC, so we’ll hear from him. We’ll go over some of this stuff and a whole lot more. Thank you guys so much for watching. Thank you for being here with me. I really appreciate it, and it means a lot that you would spend your time on a Sunday morning, Saturday night, doing this with me. All right, but I’m gonna go. So we’re done here. Thank you so much. Catch us on Monday, and until next time, stay frosty. Yeah, and enjoy the fights, and get some sleep. Whatever my calls are.

In this article, we will be recapping the Noche UFC event that took place at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The main focus of the event was the flyweight title fight between Alexa Grasso and Valentina Shevchenko, which ended in a split draw. We will discuss the fight, the scorecards, and what could be next for both fighters.

The Fight: Grasso vs. Shevchenko

The fight between Grasso and Shevchenko was highly anticipated, with both fighters looking to make a statement in the flyweight division. The fight was back and forth, with each fighter having their moments of dominance.

Carlos Legaspi, one of the commentators, believed that Grasso had won three out of the five rounds. He mentioned that the third round was particularly close, with Shevchenko having a lot of control time. However, Legaspi ultimately felt that Grasso had done enough to win the fight.

On the other hand , Gilbert Melendez, another commentator, had a different perspective. He scored the fight 3-2 in favor of Grasso. Melendez noted that Shevchenko had a strong start in the first round and had control in the third round as well. However, he felt that Grasso’s performance in the second round, where she had a big drop, and in the fifth round, where she took Shevchenko’s back and ground and pounded her, gave her the edge.

The Split Draw Decision

The fight ultimately ended in a split draw, which was not the outcome that many had expected or wanted. The commentators expressed their disappointment with the decision, as they felt that there should have been a clear winner. They also mentioned that the fight had high stakes, considering Shevchenko’s place in female MMA history and the significance of the fight being on Mexico night.

What’s Next for Grasso and Shevchenko?

The commentators discussed what could be next for both fighters. Carlos Legaspi suggested that Grasso should face Manon Fior or Erin Blanchfield, both of whom have been performing well and are close to a title shot. He believed that Grasso should have a different challenge before potentially facing Shevchenko for the third time.

On the other hand, Gilbert Melendez felt that the fight should be run back. He compared it to other fights that have had multiple rematches, such as Canelo vs. Triple G and Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez. Melendez believed that there was huge momentum and excitement around the fight, and he wanted to see it again.

The Future of Mexican MMA

The commentators also discussed the state of Mexican MMA and the rise of Mexican fighters in the sport. They acknowledged that there has been a surge of Mexican talent in recent years, with fighters like Yair Rodriguez and Brandon Moreno making waves. However, they also noted that there is still a gap in the rankings beyond the top fighters. Carlos Legaspi mentioned that there are currently no Mexican-born fighters ranked in the top 15, but he highlighted the potential of up-and-coming fighters like Daniel Hoover, Fernando Padilla, and Lupi Godinez.

Gilbert Melendez expressed his belief that Mexican fighters are here to stay and that it was just a matter of time before they had the resources and opportunities to showcase their skills. He mentioned the increase in resources and black belts in Mexico, which has allowed fighters to develop their striking and overall game. Melendez was optimistic about the future of Mexican MMA and hoped to see more Mexican stars in the UFC.

Conclusion

In conclusion, the flyweight title fight between Alexa Grasso and Valentina Shevchenko ended in a split draw, much to the disappointment of many. The commentators had differing opinions on the outcome, with Carlos Legaspi favoring Grasso and Gilbert Melendez wanting to see a rematch. They also discussed the state of Mexican MMA and the rise of Mexican fighters in the sport. While there is still a gap in the rankings, both commentators expressed optimism about the future of Mexican MMA and the potential for more Mexican stars to emerge in the UFC.

Stay tuned for more updates on the world of MMA and the upcoming UFC 294 event in October.