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let’s get right into this we’re free right in the UFC Main Event let’s go Max Holloway versus Korean zombie a lot of a

little tear-jerking after this fight but the fight was good it was a good fight

it used the uh Sunset a little hesitation I thought it was a fantastic fight I gotta be honest I thought that

zombie was gonna be a lot more hittable in those earlier rounds by Max you could see that something was going on with Max

whether it was the Maui situation whether it’s just yep just understanding that he needed this wind to kind of keep

him in that position to be number one next in line for a title shot you know to do it again against Volk all those

things are weighing on his mind like look if I’m just standing here spinning my wheels you know and I’m not gonna get

that title shot like the motivation starts to creep out and I’m sorry but man the top level Fighters the best

fighters in the world world were driven by that person that’s in front of us that motivation to get us to the title

shot get us to the goal and he understands what it takes to get there that’s why he’s still the number one

Contender he’s just lost to that guy three times so are we gonna see number four I thought I thought he deserves to

see number four but that being said he I felt like there was a little bit more going on with him mentally maybe because

of Maui but I also think Korean zombie has something going on with him mentally understand and this may potentially be

his last fight and he fought a little bit a little bit harder he fought a little bit more aggressive he I know he

normally fights that way he does but he did change up and you could see it one

I looked at it we talked about it and I said I thought the Korean zombie has to get after him and get after him early if

he if he’s gonna get him he’s gonna get him in the first round because Max just builds and continues to get

better in fights normally and stuff and and when I when I was watching and I was

yeah I do think that Max in the beginning was having some distance issues as far as where where zombie was

at and how to slide in so he could uh be effective but zombie was having some issues too with the distance yeah they

both did and both were throwing shots you know that were okay Max wins the first round and from that point Josh

the second round zombie took a lot of shots he took a lot of heavy shots you

know he got hurt you could see him get hurt he survived it and then I think in the third round coming out he told

himself well obviously I’m not going to out technique this guy I need to go go balls to the

wall and that’s what he did and I I respect the hell out of him for it I mean it’s it’s something that you know

you’ll see guys do every now and then it’s like well then let’s just bite down and I’m gonna go after you and either

you’re going to go out or I’m gonna go out and he went out and uh I I respect the hell out of him for the way that he

went after the fight but it’s like anything in a man it’s so it’s so tough to talk about when you enjoyed somebody

and they’re they’re just their career and the way that they always fought you

know he was called a zombie for a reason because he just kept coming forward and he would take damage and continue to

just keep coming forward and there comes a point you know and we’ve said it how many times you can

only crash the car so many times before it starts to not run the same way and he’s just he was a little bit slower

those engagements didn’t uh tend to come out in his favor near the end and I’m

glad to see him look and say you know what it’s time yeah and I and it and it’s not that he can’t beat people he

can still beat people but he’s not going to be the champion and I think he sees that and I think

that’s that’s his determining Factor yeah I agree with you I think um I

really feel like he is three years away or three and a half years away for a military deployment or whatever it was

that he was doing for his country that really set him back because there were stages in there where he was physically

bigger stronger hit harder than a lot of those Fighters at the time in that era and then when he came back sure he’d had

some good fights but you could tell yeah he in those three years he hadn’t involved there was more I think that’s I

think I think that’s the difference is I don’t think he got worse no but other people got better and they they caught

up to some of the things that he was doing that he was very successful with yeah if you go back you know he had some

times when you remember his fight with Mark hominick yes I mean it lasted 15

seconds you know at a time that Mark harmonic was just one of the best strikers there

was in the featherweight division was lighting everybody up was doing you know well had Sean Tompkins as his coaching

stuff and man 15 seconds later he was unconscious on the ground and you went

whoa and that was after you watched you knew that you know he knew that he was good because of his

fights with Leonard Garcia and the wars that they were and then he got the first twister ever and all those things but it

was when his hands really started going and he was knocking people out the way he was it was like Hey this guy is

something and I think that was the guy that was as you’re saying

scary and then he had to go away he had a military commitment he did that time and during that time

I’m not saying you know it took away from him but he didn’t he wasn’t improving while other people

were yeah no I agree I think that’s that was a huge difference because like you said look the things the attributes he

has um I don’t want to say they come naturally but the power I was never

blessed with power I [ __ ] hate this guy because he had power okay but

it just really bugs me but look he has it it’s a not it’s it’s now you can add to your power by using the proper

technique you know putting a little bit of you know a little bit of weight on in certain areas you know what I mean like

learning how to use your proper technique can add to your power and being more relaxed all of those things

um but he hasn’t evolved since then um when I look at the when you’re talking about the mark harmonic fight

it’s funny that you brought that up because I was actually thinking that same thing because in that very first exchange with Max he caught Max off

guard and Max like holy crap this guy’s pop oh okay he’s got he’s got some pop

and he you know he kind of Knocked Max back a little bit and zombie just thought okay look I’m just gonna keep

this pace and keep this pressure in front of him he didn’t have as much output as he should have in the beginning rounds but a lot of that was

because Max’s speed and the way that he was mixing up fainting of the body then coming back up

top with the left hook all of those things were throwing couldn’t miss with that left hook yeah he couldn’t miss for

a while Max was Max was on point but I was saying that is in the beginning zombie had moments in the beginning to

really kind of put him away but you could tell that he was I don’t want to say he was enjoying uh

he was taken in the moment a lot of it was I don’t want to get caught I don’t

want to get caught I got that feeling from him normally he would rush in on certain things um you know when he hit you hard he’d

come and rushing in that’s what he did in the third round he would have there was moments in the

first and second where he had hurt Max and the the guy who came out in the third round is that that guy would show

up in the first second round the fight maybe would have been over whether he would have won a loss and no one knows but I’m saying that he could have while

he was still dealing with Max not knowing how much power he had and how good he was in certain areas

that’s the opportunity to catch him off guard now look I don’t wanna I don’t want to sit here and take anything away from Max Max fought he fought a great

fight and like you I think you pointed out perfectly the fact that as the fight goes on Max gets stronger

he’s that type of fighter he starts getting into a rhythm he starts figuring out your Rhythm he starts capitalizing

on everything that you’re doing and you’re giving him he just he takes whatever you give him he makes it look

so easy and his takedown defense tonight too was really good zombie sought a couple takedowns didn’t set him up at

all but I’m saying they were not they weren’t remotely close and I thought Max fought a good fight a lot of pressure on

his shoulders to get that microphone tonight and just talk about what it is

what it meant to represent Hawaii Maui everything and you know and just just to

have the opportunity to speak on it those are things that are very important to Fighters coming into a fight like

they’re thinking I need to be able to get that microphone at the end of the night and say the things that are on my mind you know for my people and whether

it’s your family whether it’s your friend who’s dealing with cancer or whether it’s your you know your your friends who have lost their house in a

in a fire it has to do with it that’s that Fighters think about that moment

to say hey I’m thinking about you in a moment that I’m in here doing battle but I’m still you guys are on my mind and

it’s important to Fighters and people people at home need to understand that like a lot of these Fighters like you

guys saw me last show man we wear our emotions on our sleeves it’s an emotional thing not everyone not

everyone but you do it that’s good you’re nothing wrong with it but it is an emotional thing sometimes you know whether it’s someone you fought someone

you you know you tend to care about someone you you’ve shared the cage with for 15 minutes or 45 you know or 25

minutes whatever it is I mean those are things that are important to me and uh in the fighter safety are important to

me they’re what they do after their career is important to me and I think from for Max this was a moment for him

to to bring more attention for him to bring that opportunity that more attention to to people in Maui and he

did it now for zombie we just talked about the what um last show

I and you and you and I you and I have had this discussion about my career but we had this discussion about Tony

Ferguson last show I got a little you know emotional about the thing

um and the situation because I see it I see you I see the future for that but then in this

situation he took the approach that I took he said I don’t want to be number three number two number five number

seven you know on my way up sure but as I’m going backwards you know I’ll make another little run at it if it’s

not there it’s not there he uh Korean zombie understood that he’s

like I want to be the champion if I’m not the champion then what am I doing what’s the difference John exactly what

is the difference though between guys like zombie and guys like you know

they just can’t walk away I’m not just gonna Point Tony out I’m gonna say there’s a lot of guys we’ve had you know

first off let’s just be honest there’s there’s an identity that goes

with being a fighter and that is who you are now you see and this is a lot of people are going to sit

there and talk about look I fight but that’s not who I am

okay and I understand when someone says that but for many of the fighters out there

it is who they are it’s all they know and if you take away the fight game from

them they don’t have anything they’re looking and saying I I don’t have much now do I

think that that’s true in some cases it is true in some cases even with guys you know no you’re you’re being

short-sighted and you’re not understanding what’s what you do have and how special it is that you what you

have because yeah I try to tell people all the time

people get you know addicted to their jobs to their lifestyles

and they think that any change in it you know it’ll be the end of them that’s

almost the way they look at it you look and you go man you’re you’re not looking at this

the right way because I don’t you know it’s and you could take people from I don’t care what

you know position platform I always say you know when it comes to like Chiefs of

police they don’t leave you don’t want to know that why they don’t leave Josh because as soon as they leave they’re nobody

that position of power all that power that they have and they have power they’re the leader of this person to

that person to that person that’s just running down they’re looking they’ve got power and

it’s the moment they leave it’s gone you know and you can take a look at someone like a Dana White you know could

Dana leave the UFC absolutely has he done a great job absolutely

would it will will the UFC function and go on without him absolutely okay the

whole thing oh it won’t I don’t care who you are and I say it all the time look at they they get they

they get a new president of the United States at least every eight years if they can replace that person they can

definitely replace you and so anybody can be replaced but you have to look the thing to look

at is when you leave your job

it’s over and yeah people will sit there say oh you’re a great Buy and you’re forgotten

your family will not forget you the people that are important in your life will not forget you and they will always

be there and that’s where you make your next whatever it’s going to be as far as you

know you you get a career decision whatever you’re going to do whatever you’re going to do you’ve got to get rid

of the past to allow the the present and future to come in

and a lot of guys don’t understand how to do that yeah they think if they leave the fight game then everything is going

to fall apart and it’s not you just have to take that first step well I look at it a couple different ways is there is

when you leave a lot of the the identity issues

um come from the ego and I’m sure and I’m going to be honest like even for myself you know the

Bellator uh Analyst job came along I love doing it and that was a that made it easier for me to retire

um there was that and then on top of that you know we started working together doing the podcast the podcast

does you know pretty well and so those two things and then you know and then other things that I was doing on the

Side Gym stuff owning gyms you know owning other little things that I’ve done before I quit fighting

um all of those things I’m you know I’m not getting rich off of any of them you know what I mean but the thing is is but

I enjoyed John you and I were talking about but I wish you were because then you’d be getting rich too

if we were doing for whatever well yeah this but we do this because we really do enjoy it I mean that we have been lucky

enough uh to do you know decent um I know we’re having fun with we love doing this

but a lot of it is the ego is I’m thinking now look like what else can

I do because there’s other things that I I’ve got time I’ve got time because you know Bellator is you know once or twice a month we do the podcast twice a week

which I can do this thing anywhere in the world with my with my setup that we can just put in a backpack and

leave and all my other little things that I have you know percentages in that I own and stuff they all run themselves I

don’t have to do that um so what else can I do well I thought about it I’ve thought about like I’m too

old now to join the military because I would love to join the military I still would um I’m too old to join the military

um I thought about trying to be a police officer trying to be a firefighter like those are things you can still do but it

is there is a cut off line I would imagine right soon oh there is yeah so you know there’s there’s a cut off line

there but I think that what I think a lot of it is probably

Fighters sometimes will say like I went from everyone recognizing me in Las Vegas at the craps table or walking

through the the casino or walking out in the bright lights all these things right and now I’m applying for a job

as a police officer or you know um whatever it is firefighter or [ __ ] a

grocery store or or an electrician man you were you were a UFC fighter or you were uh whatever fighter you know what I

mean like that that’s that’s a that’s a tough pill to swallow for someone who gave up you know 20 years of their life

to go and do and but you are like I said the other day on the on the mid on the midweek

show is that you haven’t honed the life after fighting it could be another 40 years

you made a lot of money whether he made a lot of money in fighting a lot of Fighters made a lot of money and some didn’t

but you’ve got to fund the rest of your life and here’s the only thing it’s hard to fund the rest of your life when you

have no idea when it’s gonna end that’s what people don’t wrap their head

around it’s like how do you save for the end when you don’t know when the end is

God bless her soul my grandmother’s 95. my grandfather did really well but like you don’t know when the end is luckily

she he did really well but like normal people are like okay how long can I do

this I don’t even know where the money’s coming from they can’t work anymore so anyways I’m yeah go ahead John

now I look at it and I’m I know how I was and I and people that are

competitive and no matter you know especially competitive Sports when you were 20

years old did you did you think that you know you’re going to be 40 someday

no actually I thought I was gonna actually be dead by 25. sort of the same here yeah I can tell you right now you

know when I was you know 20 years old I figured if I made it to 30 hell I did good I’ll do really good making it to 30.

yeah you know and and that’s the way a lot of guys think they don’t think of I got to

think down the road you know you know no down the road is you know that’s next

month and I and and they’ll live for today and not put away for tomorrow and

that’s the way a lot of athletes are not only Fighters you know football players basketball players baseball players

there’s a lot of people that have made a lot of money that are absolutely broke yeah and so you know I the one thing

that I think is nice is when you can see someone like zombie be able to step away and he’s stepping away with confidence

that he’s going to be okay and that’s the way it should be well because I think he like I said when she wrap your

head around the fact that this isn’t who I am fighting doesn’t make me like sure

I’ve developed great connections throughout like one of the hardest things for me to do was in John you and I have talked about this a bunch of

times personally off camera is my hardest thing for me to move away from California was not the state

and I was born and raised there I mean I know I went to high school up in Coeur d’Alene Idaho and uh shout out to all my

peeps okay um but you know what I mean like for me it was it wasn’t even so much leaving my family that was all

there it was all the connections and the people and the friends that I had developed over owning all my gyms you

know developing relationships with the young kids that I had trained now they’re all some of them are [ __ ] when I started training them John

someone were going to college now same thing I got him out of college the

entire wrestling career done you look and you go those time gone but but you look and you

say it is it’s very difficult to leave the situation of right now you’re in

that position where you can say I can if something happens I know where to go and

how to get it fixed easily because I have I have people in all these different things and when you step away

those people are going to start to drift away a little bit because you’re just you don’t see them as much you know

eventually things drift off and so you’re right you’ve got to re-establish new relationships there was I had some

family like my aunts and some of my my niece she hadn’t gotten a flat tire on one of the highways there and literally

just called AAA and I call my buddy I said hey just get him just take the car directly to my buddy’s tire shop

[ __ ] was fixed within 20 30 minutes she was back on the road on her way to her College you know School uh you know just

other things too things someone broke into my gym being able to call the cops that I know on the police force hey looking into it versus the city of San

Jose they send out these I don’t know what they were they were like just Community people that came out took down notes and then they said they

filed that to the police yeah it was a report basically and then nothing ever happened but like you know just figuring out hey yeah and then you get a little

backstory on it hey yeah that same person that we saw on your thing broke into the church down the street broke

into the people down there broken so we’re we’re gonna keep more police force around the area those are the connections that you’re trying to

develop that you it takes years to develop you know a lifetime pretty much and uh leaving all of that is really

what was important to me um you know because at the end of the day when when it’s your land on your

Deathbed it’s not about how much money you made it’s not about how much [ __ ] time you

spend on social media it’s not about how many [ __ ] chicks you banged out [ __ ] how many how many drinks you had

it’s not about any of that it’s about the relationships that you made and that you have been able to carry through you

without your throughout your life and those are the most important things um when you’re talking about your life

and I’m happy for Korean zombie I thought you’ve had a great career uh I felt like he was set back because of the

military obligation he had to his country but I also honor the fact that I think that’s fantastic I know um those

are that’s a I think it’s a very that’s [ __ ] very awesome I think it’s I think it’s

something people should um speak highly of about him and you know

countries that do that I think for him and then with Max congratulations man fantastic fight fantastic ability and

there’s a lot a lot weight on your shoulders you came through I know we went off on a little on a lot different rants about this whole thing yeah we

definitely went all right we went way off of all this stuff but you gotta you gotta give it up for Max Holloway

because he went and did what he was supposed to do against a guy who’s a really tough

fighter but in a situation where you know his emotions could have been just you know a little bit off based upon all

the things that were happening he had to keep his you know his mind sharp he had to keep himself

you know On Target and he went out and did exactly what he was supposed to do but the one the one thing I want to give

up I want to give up the to the UFC very nice job of at the end when chanson Jung

the Korean zombie is walking out you started to play zombie again and you got the crowd

singing the song and man that that was something that he will never forget

it was a great moment and you did it right it was all it was like when Bellator brought all the fighters for

Fedor that was a great moment and they did it right and it’s really nice to see when

someone deserves that kind of send-off or that moment to really be able to look and say you know what my career was

pretty pretty goddamn cool I think the Korean zombie is going to look back at that moment with all those people

singing zombie at the end something he’ll never forget I mean when

he walked out of the cage he took a second and took it all in yeah I mean that lets you know that he

was really appreciative he understood the um the situation he understood what was

going on he’s like hey because a lot of times when you get done the moment captivates you too much you just you

rush out you walk out you just hey everyone bye bye bye and you let that overwhelm you and then you don’t really

take it in he took a second at the top of the steps right before he stepped down those steps and left the cage for

the last time he just looked around and he actually smiled you know and uh and I think and

you gotta remember it was a main event most people just bounce out and leave there was a crowd exactly still there

man I’ll tell you what it was awesome and I was an awesome moment I’ve got a

ditto what you said about the UFC great job on utilizing that moment to let him

know what he meant to the sport I thought it was fantastic man I thought they did a great job with Bobby Lawler I

thought they did a great job with Korean zombie fantastic both of them so good

for them because remember they did the video thing for Robbie yeah he did a great job you’re awesome man awesome

yeah so good stuff and uh yeah awesome next fight

Anthony Smith taking on Ryan’s span for a second time uh you know the first one

went Anthony Smith’s way pretty quick he got a nice win off of that he even said that he he knew that wasn’t going to

happen again in this one I’ll tell you what this was this is one of those fights where you’re gonna get a lot of people

both ways you know Anthony Smith definitely wins the first round

you know Ryan span definitely wins the second round so it all comes down to the third round and who you thought

did the best in that round two judges gave it to Anthony Smith I didn’t I gave it to Ryan Spann I’m being honest I

thought Ryan Spann took the third round but it was close and no one can complain

because you left it in a position where you could have done more

you know if you’re Anthony Smith you could have done more and if you were Ryan span you possibly could have done more so I look at it close fight but you

know congratulations Nancy Smith man he I don’t know why people don’t give him

the credit for his toughness because he is tough I was watching the thing as some people complaining about him oh he

gives up and stuff what the [ __ ] did you ever see Anthony Smith Give Up yeah they actually they were actually

saying you know and he’s not smart he could have gotten a win against Jon Jones if you just you know if he had

just taken the disqualification it was like hold it now you’re gonna hold it against someone that he did the thing

that is hard to do to sit there and say I’m going to

continue on in the fight oh yeah yeah let’s let’s take that and take that away from him Anthony Smith has been a dog

for years he’s a stud fighter I enjoy watching him he goes out he’s got the good technique he kind of looked like a

Muay Thai Fighter in this one a little bit more yeah he kept on you know it’s a little bit more straight up and down bringing the leg up but you know good

fight back and forth I think Ryan Spann is going to be looking and kicking himself later on about that fight well

we look at you just brought up the the Muay Thai thing because I was going to bring that up as well but I also look at guys that are having success

um stopping the calf kick and those are the guys that are standing like that what it is is him you got Charles Oliveira who’s I think originally

started doing those all the time he does it all the time he lifts the lake but he lives to Lake continuously to stop for

getting calf kicked but he did that a little bit before also but it just kind of worked out for him and stuff in the calf kicks or not allowing the calf

kicks to actually happen yeah that being said Charles Oliver is a [ __ ] beast on the

ground so Charles doesn’t care if his back leg gets swept out from underneath him he ends up on bottom Anthony Smith

is good on the ground he is very good their first thought I believe in a triangle right I think Anthony triangled him yeah so he’s good he’s not he’s no

slouch off of his back and he’s good on top um but I like the fact that he tried to

make the adjustments because I know that he had was taking some calf kicks in his previous fights and they were having an effect on him now people just think

because oh the calf kicks happened in the last fight that they’re gone no no no no no calf kicks or something they if

done right and continuously will do damage to your leg for the rest of your life so ask Rory McDonald his actual

muscle tore off of the bone partially and so like he couldn’t take calf kicks at all that’s why he’s that’s why he

retired I mean a lot of what I’ve heard like he obviously was losing the love for for fighting but he just he just

realized his body was so banged up his nose he’s got basically like a fake nose he’s got one of those plastic noses that

if you hit him properly it kind of like separates and it’s a fiberglass or plastic nose or Bridge or whatever it is

and then he’s these Bridge inside yeah his calf’s all [ __ ] up so it’s um you know and that right now is kind of taken

over the sport so how do you expect to carry on in the game if you don’t make adjustments and he and Roy was someone

that always had a wide stance it’s the way he fought where is Anthony Smith he’s been around the block a long time

sure he’s taken some damage but he’s also fought the best guys in the world and he’s a [ __ ] Savage he’s never

been a quitter and he’s [ __ ] one of the best 205 Pounders ever to walk the face of the earth I think he’s a fantastic fighter he’s making the

adjustments that he needs to make to continue on towards trying to be the World Champ I honor him for that man

it’s not easy to change everything you’ve done you know and uh and also to get a win off of it now I don’t know for

you uh you said you thought Ryan span won I honestly looked at the third round I almost thought it was a draw John yeah

it’s close I I swear the only reason I thought Ryan spent I thought he actually landed the harder shots in that round

I thought he had more effective strikes in that round and that was but like I

said neither guy can complain when you look at that and people you know someone’s going to say

it’s controversial not controversy at all it was a close fight it was easy to see that Anthony won the first round

easy to see Ryan won the second and then the third it could have gone either way and you know you’re gonna get at least

two of the judges you know going one way yeah it wasn’t I mean like it was it should have been controversial no one

should be sitting here going oh yeah it was controversial no it was a close fight and then close fight the way it went is the way it went that’s it next

fight ah that you know I gotta say this one disappointed me I’m sorry really

yeah I did because and Alex caceres I mean I was I was looking for more of

I don’t know I don’t know what I was like I I think I was like that’s the problem you didn’t know what the [ __ ] you were looking for that’s why I

disappointed you no I was looking forward I was so happy with Clay Collard against Shane Burgos and we’ll talk about that

one we’ll bring that in here and start ruining these guys moments man come on I was looking for that I was wanting that

kind of fight between these two no and they were like they both fought well Giga obviously landed the harder shots

that was a big difference and you gotta look and say man I I totally understand you know Alex caceres’s you know hair is

part of his stick it’s kind of like the clay Guida thing but man it moves so much that even when he’s not getting hit hard it looks like he’s getting hit hard

and it has an effect no I agree with you um this fight didn’t disappoint me at all um I got to be honest though it let

me know that geek is not ready for those top guys and that hasn’t that’s not a knock on

Alex caseras at all but his whole claim is that he’s one of the best stand-up

guys in the world or one of the best Santa guys in in MMA I I can agree with you you’re a fantastic stand-up guy but

Alex caseros is good on the feet he’s not great on the feet he’s got a different style but I’m just shocked

that I’m more disappointed in the fact that Alex caceres didn’t try to wrestle more that was my whole thing I mean I thought

he would had he tried to wrestle more because him on him on the top position in the grappling positions he is

Head and Shoulders above Giga on the ground Head and Shoulders above a geek on the ground on the feet at least from

what at least from what we’ve seen from Giga in the back exactly I agree with you I agree but I just don’t think he I don’t think Giga would be able to make

up that type of Gap in the grappling that I’ve seen from him from that to

what I’ve seen out of Alex Alex is damn good on the ground his flexibility his ability to you know to hit you from

whether it’s from the bottom or from the top you know he gets uh sweep submissions all those triangles arm bars

you know we get to the rear naked all those things he’s gotten very proficient he is very good on the ground so all those things I would have liked to have

seen him try to attack that more looking and Alice got a [ __ ] beard on him man damn that guy shot and all the hype and

all the stuff that was around Giga being this great great kickboxer now I get it you’re dealing yes he is he’s he’s a

hell of a kickboxer man because I seen him when he was in Gloria you know I didn’t rough him there but I was you know working and I was watching his

fights and I was like God damn this guy could no he can fight but it’s also different when you’re fighting MMA guy I understand that because now you gotta

worry about takedowns all of those things I just there for me what was missing was

the the output and the explosiveness of Giga uh more so pushing the pace on on

Alice caceres because Sarah he started to slow down on the second round that’s when Giga started to take over but Alice

was still there Alex was still Landing shots in that third round that could have potentially put Giga down I mean

those were things that I’m like all right what this this shouldn’t be this close on the feet Giga should have ran

away with it I mean I had it 20 years I had it 29-28 because I had I was born in the first round

yeah so but overall I didn’t the fight didn’t disappoint me I just where I was

disappointed was I wanted Alex to fight smarter that’s it could understand I sorted out now it’s probably why what my

disappointment was but rinya and Nakamura I’m just telling you right now I was super impressed with this kid

super impressed with this kid yeah and Fernie Garcia they put on a hell of a battle but I’ll tell you what Nakamura

showed he is talented he is called the hybrid and he is a talented young man because

his ability to move and he is fast he got some speed and that’s like damn that

was fast and he was just all over Garcia in that fight and Garcia fought his way

out of some you know tough situations he kept himself in the fight just wasn’t

able to find any room to be offensive really against Nakamura kept finding

himself in defensive situations and and just wasn’t able to get his game going but God damn renya Nakamura is good he’s

someone I cannot wait to watch as he uh builds in the future he’s now what eight I think ain’t no I think he’s eight no

now and uh and look you can always tell I mean he’s number two on the card right because it was uh I know tafa was first

on the card on the main card but Nakamura is number three so he’s closer to the co-main he’s like right in the middle there but you know that they have

plans for him oh yeah there’s a market they’re trying to get into that’s one okay and two is is that he’s

undefeated and he fights the way he fights he came out and did what he was supposed to do I mean he put him I

wouldn’t say he put a beating on him but he dominated that fight from beginning he dominated the fight from beginning to

end so good good job to him congratulations I’m actually looking forward to seeing him fight again but I gotta be honest Man the blancheville

fighting Santos fight hello great fight great fight you want to know why because

blanchfield reminded me John of me the person that can never win the [ __ ] first round okay because they’re a

little they’re a little she did not they’re a little slower they don’t hit as hard they’re just eating your face trying to beat you with cardio and

technique as you as the fight goes on she fought a great fight she didn’t let any of the [ __ ] that happened in the

first round get to her stay with the game plan second third round just sort of running away with it

big shots great top pressure great you know all this she made a couple little mistakes here and there but man

she’s she’s on her way she’s on her way she’s fantastic well she she has showed this man she is a she’s just a gritty

fighter that keeps on coming and she doesn’t get frustrated when things don’t

work for her she just comes back to do it again and again and she just maintains whatever it is the game plan

that her and her Camp have come up with she just sticks with it and she that was what she had one shot that landed on

Santos and it was a left hand and it bothered Santos and you can see Santos

blinking her right eye a lot and just sitting there closing it and I thought that that shot started to change the the

flow of the fight into blanchfield’s uh Corner a little bit and that was in the second round that I think it happened in

uh Santos you know hung tough but just she could not deal with you know that

clinch gain that Aaron blashfield had and it was a lot of people who said well

blanchfield didn’t do anything oh yes she did yes she did she did a lot you know all

of those all that clinching all the little knee strikes all the elbows inside all those little shots they add

up you know and yeah it’s not exciting I’m not I’m not going to tell you it’s

real exciting but if you’re the person that’s in there it’s freaking absolutely exhausting and it’s

frustrating to you because you can’t get away from the person and that’s Aaron blanchfield’s game and she’s making you

fight her game I mean there’s I can give you guys representations of guys uh that

have made their careers off that John Fitch Danny Danny sabatello is making his career right now just directly off

of that the aggressiveness the in your face never let giving you an opportunity to breathe Brandy [ __ ] Couture hello

his whole career was about just getting in your face never giving you a chance to breathe grinding on you hanging on

you when he did get you down making you pay that was it nope that was it like if you got back up okay cool does Matt

return you back down break your [ __ ] soul in your heart you talk about the the first guy with Matt return

look at it was Randy yeah his man he would let you sometimes work your way to the people he’d work in that clinch take

you down again Grant you work your way to your feet it’s like okay that man here it comes again yeah the guy that

like there was you know even though Fitch got a lot of love for doing that man the guy that did that to me the most ever in AK was [ __ ] Josh Koscheck

but I mean he just he I would have loved to have had him in his prime when uh

Habib was there because he he they already had their falling out and you know that kind of

thing when he’ll be the first command but man I would have loved to have seen the two of them get after each other because the explosiveness on the feet of

cost check the uh the explosives on his double leg to his flare and all those things you know and to see him go

against guys like Habib Islam and Abu Bakr and those guys to watch them kind

of get after each other would have been fun would have been fun because they would add some good goals especially on

wrestling day would have loved to have seen it loved to have seen it all right next fight

ah you had Junior taffa coming in taking on Parker Porter Junior tougha’s brother

had already fought Parker Porter before so this was a I’m not sure was it I’m

not sure if this was a uh the first time on the main card for Parker Porter but I know he had just gotten his black belt

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu he’s a tough dude but Junior taffa on the feet

he’s got power hurt him early kind of kind of crushed the space made a mistake

and then came back and put it on him again all right I don’t know if you paid attention to all this but this is I’m

gonna go right into this John this fight should have been changed this

fight like there was a moment there in the double leg after Parker had pressed him in the face oh yes and taffa grabs

the fence and Stuffs the tape stops the takedown that way this is what we’ve been talking about this fight should

have automatically been started on the ground and now I know you can’t do that I know you can’t do that but the thing

is he was on his way down he grabbed the fence and kept him from getting him down

there’s got to be a penalt this was a blatant fence grab and nothing and who

was the ref was it but the only penalty you can do yeah uh no that one who’s the

who’s the ref yeah Mark man I like you man I like you a lot

but man when I see you I’m gonna give you a piece of my mind this is one of those fights this drives me absolutely

crazy because I can’t say that he he even saw that though he warned him about it John I’m gonna hit you right now

through the microphone camera John he warned it you said don’t do that I’m protecting my

guy please man this it was it was one of those scenarios and situations where it

had a direct impact on whether he got the takedown or not

and it just I don’t know I don’t know how you solve that though John he should

have been put on the ground and I know you can’t do that but he needs to be put down on the ground

I’m sorry look at it or take a point right there on the spot so

like I still sit on the rules committee and actually I I use that as a thing to

try to get in that cut man thing I was I was trying to put one that I knew they think would be crazy to putting in the

look on a foul a cut man can come in and close a cut for somebody that is injured dude with the foul and one what I said

was hey if we have someone that grabs the fence the referee would be able to stop it and put the person in a

predetermined position we’ll say half guard and uh start the fight from there you end up being put in the place you

supposedly did not want to go based upon the grab of the fence and the first person first person

that said I don’t want that responsibility Mark Goddard

I’m not I don’t want to deal with this I don’t know I don’t want people saying that oh you decided you want to put them

here it’s a lot it is a lot and it’s you know right now he can take the point or

he can you know separate them if there’s a if it’s an advantage for the person that

the foul went against but that’s about all I I honestly don’t think you put him in half card I think you put them in

butterfly guard not being honest see you see there’s there’s part of your problem

why what’s the problem it’s a neutral position for I mean like you just fouled so why should it be a new why should it

be a neutral position well no you’re I’m putting you on your back on the underneath me now when you should have

been you were up on your feet you fouled yes so let me put you down on your back it’s

not really neutral it’s neutral on the ground but you’re now on your back neutral because guard is as neutral as

you’re gonna get I don’t care what God is not it is as far as oh no on the

ground closed guard closed guard anything is closed guards close to 50 50. excuse me it’s as close there’s no

excuse for what you’re about to say because it’s wrong you’re gonna get that’s wrong John there’s no excuse me

what excuse there’s all the submissions yes

exactly that’s the whole point so you’re I’m not going to put someone in a position did I missed the point

because he seem like you skating past it what was the point I said I said half guard yeah but that okay so that’s giving

those the a stark advantage to the person on top okay and who failed I get it but that

guy didn’t want to go to the ground I get what you’re saying I get it wait a second I’m the one that normally is

fighting for the guys to be put on the ground and now you’re trying to reverse this role trying to make it as neutral as possible

you see that quit trying to be neutral because you weren’t neutral in any other part of the things you were doing John

the bottom line is is you want to penalize them but you don’t want to take

them to the point where they end up losing the fight being in a butterfly position they still have the options for

sweeping they still have the options to come underneath they still have the options to stand back up half guard they

don’t have those options that option is base you put them in one of the worst positions to be on on the bottom that is

like that is the worst position to be on let me ask you something so if it’s a worse Position will it keep you from

grabbing the fence but do you want to be the right that decides that outcome of the fight that’s

where it goes hold on I’m not trying to decide the outcome I’m trying to make it as neutral as possible I am telling you

right now there was nothing as far as nothing was ever decided as far as what position and it would have had to have

been decided upon but I always look and say I want to put you where you don’t

want to ever grab the fence and that’s maybe why the rule never got passed John come to me for more refereeing advice okay

I’m telling you I mean look I look at it as like the penalty is good enough for

me if you put them on the bottom underneath me in a butterfly position there’s no real submission threat there there is a submission there is a sweep

threat there but there’s also ground and power for me on the top so if I was to say it was a neutral position that would

work Smith would have loved it yeah Marie Smith TKA would have loved it but I get what you’re saying

um you know but the game has changed enough you know from Maurice days to now that that that is kind of more of a

neutral position now they could just roll their legs to the outside and get a full guard from there absolutely but um

but I I think though too if the person on top is feeling uncomfortable he can also back out and go back to his feet if he wants so there’s a ton of options

there um available for that giant like your uh your thing is glitching on you so this

is what you look like

I was like John are you having a little seizure over there what’s going on but I think it’s slo-mo right I thought maybe

the bug zapper got a hold of your foot real time nobody on YouTube will see you

in slow more because it records in real time it records normally but in real take that all the time with you so okay

so let me ask you then let’s try to clarify this you think that obviously there’s nothing they can do

should he have taken a point he could have he had broken them and started it

separate could have I think you know when you take a look at that position of

time Parker Porter was hurt tafa made the mistake of crushing that

space he should have kept himself at a distance it would have helped him a lot but he crushed it

porker was able to Porter was able to get a hold of him and it’s what slowed the fight down so in a

way what what you’re looking at if you’re Goddard is you’re saying I don’t want to

separate him because right now Porter’s got a hold of him and he’s hurt

he’s better off having a hold of him than me stopping it and separating

because then they’re going to start from a separated position that’s worse for him so I can understand

why he looked at that okay let me give you a uh let me help you along with this refereeing thing again okay so what you

do is your health does not help what you do what’s look and I know look this is the other thing I know everything

happens so fast the decision has to be made like that but in Ideal World ideal

scenario situation Parker was hurt what you do is you stop the fight you give

top of the warning you pull Parker aside that gives Parker time to recover and then you restart them I get it but

you’re gonna you’re gonna grab him by the wrist walk him to the center you’re gonna give him what you’re doing one

your altar oh now you’re altering things okay go ahead oh you’re you’re grabbing you’re grabbing by the wrist thank you

we’re talking about Porter than the center of the cage taking his one point take the one point put him

back to the cage which gives porker time porker Parker Parker Parker Porter Parker he

gives him time to recover and then he puts him back against the fence where they were that would be an ideal

situation now I know that this is all happening so fast it’s hard to really think on the fly like that I mean but

this is probably why I may end up a referee after all this stuff yeah I can’t wait for that one baby

it’ll never happen guys I’d have a better chance working for the US government if I could be in a referee

oh man all right um okay next fight

ah Waldo Cortez Acosta against Lucas breski

that’s uh that was a bit that was a big face plant knockout yeah it was uh I

don’t know what more to say about that that happened in the first round about three minutes in and it was Big Time

shot big time that uh you’re looking Cortez has proven many times that he has

got power yeah and he can stand and bang and he just proved it again he’s very confident he throws a bad intentions uh

you know he does throw it back boy he he swings hard yep he does yeah sometimes puts himself out of position with it but

I like the fact that he swings on when he’s dealing with guys that aren’t as athletic as him he can go ahead and do that yeah uh Garrett uh Armfield he just

one-sided fight I’ll tell you what what a you know body shot you look at the body shot set up

and then big big uh blows I know that uh Kazama was not you

know seemed like he was not happy with the stoppage but it wasn’t no it wasn’t a bad stop but she he got hurt oh he got

hurt all that ref did was save you save him from worse abuse that was in the first round John because he had two more

rounds kicked oh I know it was one-sided the technique the the Titans

the fight that I really enjoyed yes and I talked about it yes you did I said I

thought this would be a great fight was Michael ohichuk against Chidi ijikawani

man I’ll tell you what it was she was freaking looking beautiful throughout a

lot of it and I said what what you got to see out of olichuk is he’s got to get through the first round he didn’t have

to get through the first round but that was what we were talking about you’ve got to put up with that speed of of

Chidi in the beginning and the accuracy and then just put a couple more shots and just make it through get him a little tired and things start to change

a little bit and that’s what happened an old Chuck is a dog that just does not I don’t know what the hell shitty was

thinking trying to do a [ __ ] lateral drop I was like what are you doing like okay and then it just was I think it was

just a natural reaction in terms of he was already going backwards and just thought okay let me just try to step up

you know step through it and just hip over it just didn’t work for him but um I mean after dropping uh how do you

say his last name he heard all the Chuck yeah he heard him he heard him bad and then uh oluchet came back and heard him

right back within the next you know minute and a half or not even minute and a half like probably the next 40 seconds yeah so uh good stuff any other fights

on here you want to talk about Oh Billy goth looked really good got to give it to him I thought JJ Aldrich

fought tough as hell and uh I know that he lost but jarno Aaron’s he’s actually

a good fun fighter to watch I thought that uh Choi you know Troy’s been in the UFC for a

while now um and he’s had some tough fights and he’s had some good wins and this is a

good win against jarno Ahrens but I thought Aarons has showed that you know he needs to stay there in the UFC give

him some other fights he’s a talented guy yeah he’s fun to watch all right guys that’s going to wrap up our UFC

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check out our page at onlyfans.com Wayne all right let’s get right into the pfl man this fight was [ __ ] bananas John

bananas banana I did not say it was gonna be good though you know did we not say yeah we did say we did I don’t want

to Pat myself on the back too much because people get irritated oh no I’m just what I’m going look I said this is going to be a hell of a fight this one

is one that I’m gonna be super disappointed if it doesn’t live up to you know my expectations of it and not

only did it live up in it surpassed uh God damn clay Collard is so fun to

watch because he just he just keeps doing the right things at times he goes to the body so well and he

just opens you up for other things but Shane Burgos then you gotta give Shane

credit he’s got a [ __ ] Granite [ __ ] he got hit with some big shots he keeps

coming back into the third round he’s trying to put a whooping on clay it was a great fight great fight by both

guys I enjoyed that that to me I’ve watched a lot you know not every

pfl but a goddamn plethora of them that was the best Main Event they’ve ever had

yeah I would have to agree with you um I wasn’t sure if the the main event was Ray brought a Cooper and

uh Maga men karamov was that a main event that was a good fight but I don’t think that was the main event on that okay it might that was a fantastic fight

also and that was it wasn’t about it before because Ray was hurt a lot in that fight and then came back and knocked him out what a [ __ ] fight

that was um but this I’m thinking that that was not the I don’t think it was either I think there was somebody else ahead of

them but that was a great fight this isn’t an event was it there’s the main event was click on Jim

Burris thank you very much Dave were you hearing without you I don’t know where

we would be did you not hear anything we just said podcast Dave were you what did

you say it was amazing were you on the couch again sleepy he’s on the couch no

cheers oh my God Dave what were you trying what

were you trying to say Dave go ahead no no you go

podcast said this was the best main event that

pfl has ever had and I said I don’t know was the was the ray brother Cooper fight

against magamed karamaha they also fought they fought a couple

times but in the second time the second time Bray brought a Cooper second the second thing Bradley Cooper was losing he came

back but I don’t think it was the main event of that I don’t think it was either a Toyman I know we know all right we got

we figured that out Dave right away I love you brother I love it I’m just

making sure like those Universe this dude is keeping us right in track right they don’t watch pfl who may be like

wait they’re talking about like multiple events in one show yeah

I’m here for the fans I’m here for them okay there you go you’re actually here

for our Amusement is what it is he’s [ __ ] great I love it um Dave

this let me just break it down clay Collard and uh Shane Burgos they had a great fight back and forth the Body

Works started early from clay Collard he had it started to pay dividends as the fight went on but what I love the most

is that Shane burgos’s Corner told them you’re down 2-0 because he came out in that third round on fire dude where was

that though in rounds no that’s the whole thing but she got look he was fighting and he was fighting you

know tough but he could not figure out how to stop the goddamn body attack and then just

the volume of clay Collard every time that he did something that was good and he did he had moments that he was doing

something good and had clay Collard out of position off balance spinning you

know around in the cage he wasn’t able to follow it up and do more damage with

it and he couldn’t figure that out in the third round he just said

let’s go for it and he did man and he was dude he was

he was what you know I always I thought he won the round but he was putting it on clay and you know you kind of looked

and said man if there was a fourth round could this be different yeah you know

and it was just a great fight Bible are there championship fights five rounds yes

they are okay yes this is uh next yeah the next set will the look I had said

with Shane Burgos at 1 45 he was somebody that came out with a lot of aggressiveness in the first round then

tend to slow down as the fight went on him he answered a lot of my questions um but I also he also created another

question for me is are you holding back in the first two rounds because for your whole 145 pound career you got tired

late but then now in this fight I was actually able to see you go you know what oh I’ve got energy what am I

holding back for let’s go because you had a great third round great third round fantastic and but Clay did his

work and look and and let me like um try to clarify this a little bit more for Fighters and for people and fans you

guys gotta understand you we as fighters in the gym we’re training with 16 ounce gloves on

headgear on elbow pads normally shin guards knee pads all we’ve got all this gear all over us okay and we’re making

sure that no one gets hurt but going to the body is not something a

lot of us do it just it like maybe once in a while well you know a lot of times it’ll kick to the body a lot like myself

like myself Luke rockhold some of our guys would kick to the body quite a bit um Mowgli was one of the best guys at

kicking the bar um but when he comes down to going to the body with the hands a lot of a lot

of MMA fighters don’t do it which is crazy because when you get into the actual cage and

you’re wearing your MMA gloves it makes a huge difference on the glove getting through because there’s nothing really

there my little Twiggy elbows that I have right because I’ve got little Twiggy arms is and they they don’t block

[ __ ] and you put the MMA glove up in there it hurts and so I look at I go I wonder

Clay’s doing a great job of doing the work early in the fight that’s because clay boxed but not it’s not just clay

was a professional boxer who realized body shots are a good thing and he’s continued on with them in MMA

and they’re a lot easier to hit in MMA gloves the body absolutely than they are in boxing because the biggest even if

you’re wearing 10 sorry 8 and 10 ounce gloves in boxing they’re still hard to get through because my elbows can block

or graze it and knock it off knock it off Rhythm so it doesn’t actually hear they can just shake the steam off yeah

exactly but uh you could tell that those body shots were having an effect on Shane Burgos in the first two rounds he

didn’t he had no he had no answer because you want to know why he had no answer on how to block and how to counters because inspiring it back where

he’s probably training no one that he spars with probably does them and that I ran into the same problem and that was

we were talking about Nam fam when I fought Nam fan a while back I’m like this guy should never be in the cage with me but one of the things he did really well

in the fight with me is he hit me to the body quite a bit and it threw me off I was like okay no matter what I do I

can’t overextend I can’t I can’t make sure I throw hard I can’t load up I can’t do any of that stuff because I

Leave myself out of position this little guy is going to hit me with a [ __ ] body shot and drop me and in one moment

there I believe in the second round or maybe the beginning of the Third that little [ __ ] [ __ ] hit me with a

nice little body shop I had to circle and stay away and you can hear his Corner yelling he’s heard he’s hurt and I was like and I smiled and I’m like

[ __ ] you no I’m not but I was I was hurt I always hurt you know but I had that look in my face like gosh

this [ __ ] hurts I was like laughing as I was trying to get [ __ ] air

it feels so great but no uh it’s it’s one of the most miserable amount of uh

things is he hits the body but anyway guys don’t utilize it enough clay Collard it worked for him

um I’m looking forward to seeing him in the finals man looking forward to it you know it’s this is I want to say was

this his third or fourth year with the pfl and now he’s finally made it because he’s made it to the you know this this

point it always has lost now he’s finally made it to the finals and he’s going up against the returning pfl

tournament winner and I call him champion and Oliver Albin Mercier oam

who had the fight just before um clay Collard against Shane Burgos and

and oam put on a beautiful performance in that fight he just looked in control

through most of it and was just putting on Big Shots Dave what are you doing

Dave I’ve got that Big John internet I don’t know what’s going on what’s cool yeah

I’m trying to pull up Clay Collins profile but uh well anyway so look at OEM fighting

Bruno Miranda Bruno is a a brawling Style guy the guy that you know you

looked at and you said well wrestling wise OEM is going to have the uh advantage on the feet maybe you know

Bruno can create that brawl where he’s putting shots on oam like like we said the difference between

you know Mercier now and when he was in the UFC is he relied on his wrestling

you know for he had to have wrestling opportunities to survive in the fight

and get a win he does not need his wrestling as far as to survive he uses

it when he needs to to put a person in a bad position but for the most part he’s Landing clean shots he’s setting up

beautiful counters his stand-up is clean now and and he basically was the better

technician on the feet people can say whatever they want but at TriStar zahabi has done a fantastic job

with oam and getting him to be a guy who’s comfortable in the stand-up understands counters understands his

footwork understands distance control and now he’s a much more difficult

person to beat and it’s not going to be an easy thing for caller uh to get that win when you can take when a coach get

their hands on someone who is really good at one thing and all I have to do is shape the other thing

I don’t have to make you a world champion and the other thing I’m just going to make you

adequate yeah respectable and adequate in that in those things which is stand

up for for oam his wrestling is good his power on the

feet is good his explosiveness is good he’s got he’s kind of rangey with his arms and his legs he’s got good push

kicks he knows how to keep the distance and when he goes he goes he throws big Power with his his South Paul so he

throws a straight left he’s got good power and so um and if he if he gets in

trouble he gets rocked that’s the benefit of being a good wrestler you get in trouble you get rocked

um you’re able to shoot on takedowns to kind of stall the fight out unless your name is [ __ ] Michael Chandler with no fight IQ okay you know how to utilize

your wrestling when you’re in trouble okay um I think that I think clay colors

got his hands full but I want to know does clay collard then I’m sorry does oam try to take this

fight to the ground because he knows that that’s the question there’s just there’s no way on the ground that I

think clay beats oam on the feet there’s a chance there’s an opportunity there I’m not saying he will but I’m saying

there’s a chance of opportunity there um but let’s I’m going to be I’ll say it

right now clay Collard is the much better technician on the feet OEM is

respectable and can get it done with a lot of guys that are Brawlers like

Miranda collar’s not a brawler collar is a technician he is very slick in the way

he throws his shots how he Ducks under and he Ducks under in a way that a lot

of boxers kind of do it but he doesn’t get hit with knees and kicks and stuff so he’s doing it at a different time

he’s he is very technically good and he throws with a volume all uh the Diaz

brothers he continues to just throw shot after shot after shot and it just makes

you start to hesitate on throwing yours because you’re waiting for that perfect moment to counter and it’s never there

well here’s the other thing is that look if clay collar is going to go to the body on oam that puts him within wrestling range if I can touch you with

my hands if I reach out and touch you with my hands I could take you down and so oam is going to be thinking of that look you try going to my body every time

you go to my body I’m attaching the single or I’m hitting the double or I’m trying to push that button he can

definitely take colors he definitely can can he hold him down which I think he can no he can at least hold him down for

for three of the five rounds I think he’ll be able to get it done I think he’ll get some work in there but I think Clay’s gonna remember the fight starts

always on the feet for every round and Clay’s got an opportunity to uh get The Knockout he’s

got power he he mixes up his combinations oam is very still he’s very stiff on the feet still even though it’s

coming out a little bit more fluid it’s still not able to comprehend he’s still not able to comprehend body shots head

head body shots okay Circle step duck underneath all those things all the things that clay collar does really well

could give OEM some fits if oam decides to keep it on the feet or he’s not able

to get the takedown so those are things to look at when you’re talking about this main event

against Carlos Miranda is actually a good fight you know it was a

Miranda had a lot of problems with the the size and length of sadabusi and it

he got to the point where he was able to get the fight to the ground but it was

just Saddam Hussein being able to just out Point him throughout the fight is

really what happened it was a split decision I thought Sodom won but it was

uh one of those fights you wanted more because the one thing that you know

Carlos Leal Miranda has he’s got power he can pop and he was always looking to land that big shot and a lot of times he

was you know stepping into shots to try to land that shot and ended up working against him yeah

um I’m gonna look at this fight and go look if you are someone that missed weight you shouldn’t be allowed to go to the

finals that’s the problem yeah I agree I think I agree I think they need to have an alternate for these for these fights

and that sucks because you got to pay the alternates to show up and make weight majority of the time yeah so that

sucks but when you’re doing these tournaments you want to make sure that there’s a backup person there because by

missing weight I think you missed it by three pounds that’s a lot because you’re giving the pound allowance also

yep so that that’s four pounds that means I almost feel like you didn’t even try

I’m Just Being Honest John if I’m I’m not gonna argue with it and so that’s that’s frustrating that’s a frustrating moment I think if you’re someone who is

you know in soda with CV in the champion last time you know of last year’s uh Tournament champion it’s frustrating

because you know that this guy’s standing between me and getting my goals again and now I have to fight and if

what happens if sodomusi said no I’m not fighting him he missed weight what do you do I advance

I made the way right I mean how do you do that I made the wait I don’t know homeboy didn’t make the wait you would think

right I I mean I’m gonna be honest like if I’m there if I’m him I’m going like you can’t take me out of the firewood I

automatically get a bit of the finals this homeboy didn’t make way they’ve got to have strict rules on these type of things because what stops those people

from doing what Miranda did and then winning and then getting to the finals and then what happens in the

finals if the guy doesn’t make weight it’s like anything you can’t win the championship if you don’t make weight

but he got to the he got to the finals though by not making weight that’s the problem not saying anything about it I know you’re not arguing with me but I’m

pointing this out so everyone at home can can be like yeah wait wait Josh make it a good point what the [ __ ] going on

you’re making a good point but it’s obviously they have something set up because you know you would think that

they would have alternates yeah this is one of those ones

what I couldn’t I don’t have the answer for the other question I have is what happened whatever happened to [ __ ] Ray brother Cooper I haven’t seen him in

the last two two uh yeah two tournaments he’s taking uh taking time off good for

him he’s probably enjoying that million dollars he won from knocking out mug a med care moth

Solomon Renfro put on a good performance it just wasn’t enough overall he couldn’t stop the takedowns when uh they

came just overall mangam is just a a uh more experienced fighter he got the win

but it does make it to where a guy in magmad karimov who has been a tournament

winner and the champion of the pfl takes on the last tournament winner and a

champion in sadabusi so that’s really going to be uh a fight that should be an

exciting fun fight to watch look this was a fight where I thought I was expecting to be completely one-sided

John it wasn’t no no Renfro fought a great fight the other thing as well is that refro at the

end had the better cardio and got the takedown at the very end this is this let me know like I saw some

flaws in a lot of holes in margaman Margaret made karimov’s game okay let me ask you but let me ask you this

did he not look like he didn’t train for that fight I’m not gonna say that I’m gonna say I’m

gonna say that I’m gonna say that I’m gonna give all the credit to Renfro he thought he fought a good fight he put

the pressure he had big shots he did stuff some takedowns made it hard for him to get the takedowns but he did when

he did get him he was able to hold him down a little bit but I thought Renfro did a good job of my man Josh Thompson

is always saying oh that Dude Looks soft that Dude Looks soft you’re not gonna say that but John karimoff didn’t look

so he always looks soft no he doesn’t always take a look at his

fights against Cooper yes he was in some of these dagestani guys some of these guys from from chechnya and some of

these like they I don’t know what it is man like underneath the hairy chests and the hairy bellies like they they they’re

a little they look a little soft but man they got cardio for days he looked tired at Midway through the second round he

looked tired he looked gassed and he looked like okay look just get whatever I got to do to get through this fight

now maybe he’ll pick it up for the because he’s gonna need to wrestle a lot more against audubusi oh yeah now he’s

not going to win the stand up against c yeah he needs he’s gonna need to wrestle so um but I thought I’m not gonna take

anything away from Renfro ranfo fought a great fight um just he ran I look at it he didn’t lose the fight he just ran out of time

that’s the way I look at that fight for him so it’s good for him good way to look at it all right uh any of the other

fights on here you want to talk about ah you had the the amateur contest between Ali Walsh against Ed Davis uh Biagio Ali

Walsh again the grandson of Muhammad Ali he looked good you know I it was an

early stoppage to a point kinda but um you know it’s an amateur fight that’s

what you get that’s part of you know amateurs is you know you don’t let him go as far but it wasn’t really and I’ll

give it to up for you know Biagio he said he goes yeah it was an early stoppage so it wasn’t really a stoppage though

John but Davis took some horrific shots man they

were cool he had three he took three big shots boom boom boom and then went down

I mean he was hurt really bad no doubt about it uh you gotta give it up for I

like Alexi progrande he’s a good young fighter he’s fun to

watch I’ll give it up to uh stefanelli he fought tough but you know for God the

only thing burgundy look once you’ve tried for a submission and then you tried for it again and it

didn’t work out don’t go for that thing you know the next time the next time the

next time what you did unless it’s just given to you there then take it yeah but you know he kept on

going for the arm triangle and it just wasn’t working against uh stefanelli and stuff but kids young he’s got a lot of

talent I think he’s fighting out of uh kill Cliff uh they’re doing a good job with him he’s fun to watch

all right well hey that’s going to wrap up our pfl talk and hopefully you guys enjoyed that now Dave’s going to give us some news we’re gonna we’re gonna have

some fun with this news today oh yeah are we yes we are all right okay

go ahead and figure out what time what time we’re at right now we’re about uh nowhere trying to take time stamps I’m taking

manual time stamps here so we got MVP tough to do from the couch yep you know

you know sitting over here we go Josh with this Irish classes I’m not sure what relevance it has to it does an

American guy and a Russian guy but um but uh MVP says he wants a top 10 and

you if he goes to the UFC uh rachmanov says how about number six

so be careful what you wish almost right in the middle yeah gotta like it what do

you think about that I think I had to be honest like everyone

talks about Colby Covington Kamara Usman and those guys against MVP

I think personally this is a harder fight for him for MVP than those two guys

so he’s also a lot more Reckless with his stand-up he’s also can mix in his stand-up with his wrestling Colby

Covington and Kamara Usman are very traditional style stand-up guys Colby is

just sloppy stand up but it leads into his Segways to his wrestling Kamar Usman

has become a really good stand-up fighter but he’s also slowing down with his age plus a lot of the end he’s got

good power he’s got good power he’s got a great jab all of those things the speed of MVP is going to give him

some problems and the ability to wrestle now come I’ve heard through the grapevine that Camaro Wilson has

problems with his knees he’s having a hard time getting a lot of the wrestling staying up with the wrestling because of his knees

um that’s why he’s focused a lot more on his right his stand-up these days I think the speed of MVP would be a

problem for him now he may be able to take MVP down he maybe will but I don’t know if he’ll be able to hold him speed

of MVP is going to give everyone he’s going to give everyone a problem you don’t realize it until all of a sudden

you’re in there how how fast he is and how much distance he can come yeah I

think the The Rock mono fight is probably the toughest fight for him I think that’s a tough one yeah if I like

that one I think the Colby sure is tough I think but Colby is very hittable and Kobe can wrestle for five rounds but

we’ve also seen that mvp can continuously try to get up for five rounds well you have to understand what MVP is and I’m not

what do you have to understand with him is he’s tall he’s long he’s lanky he’s

fast he his whole career has been about guys trying to take him down yeah only

the best of the best have been able to hold him down now look I look at Logan story Logan’s story is a better wrestler

than Colby Covington Logan’s story is a better wrestler than Kamara Usman he’s maybe not look I think he is right up

there with them in terms of MMA but he still has a lot of growth to happen though in the MMA World okay like he

still needs to work more on his stand-up he still needs to work more on his fight IQ in developing more of his stamp but

but Logan’s store is younger than them I don’t know about how much but he is younger than them Logan is 30. 30 years

ago but he’s young in the sport he hasn’t even hit his prime yet I know that he’s what 29 30 Euros 31 years old

but he’s still these guys with Colby and with Camaro they’re for four years three or four years old in him that’s three or

four years of being in the sport fighting the top level guys that that’s knowledge earned over time I think that with MVP

I think that the the rachmana fight is a tough fight for him I look at the Stephen Thompson fight being a great

fight for the fans now in terms of where it gets him I mean he gets him ranked number five that’s the fight to make

that’s the fight that should take place now I’m not sure if they’re gonna do that I look at the other guys can you pull up the welterweight division please

in the UFC now everyone’s going okay but how about that how about how about

all right you don’t you if if they sign MVP there’s this guy that’s right out of

the top ten Ian Machado Gary who’s got this great stand-up game how

about him against MVP I would love that personally for me I would love to see that fight but that being said if I’m

MVP coming in there look I’m 35 years old I’m like nah 36 years old I’m not

taking that fight why I know I’m coming in for top ten and he’s I’m gonna be

honest he’s signing for top 10 money if he’s leaving Bellator because Belterra has the right to match and he’s

going to go to the UFC he’s signing for top 10 money he’s not signing for he’s probably signing for top five money like

Michael Chandler did I’m gonna be fighting the best guys I’m gonna fight the top five top six I’ll take these and

that’s it I don’t even know why they still have comms in there you know um they got the guys the guys that I think

are gonna give I believe I think the law gives him a hard time

his physical his cardio his ability to his physical strength

in the clinch all those things will give uh MVP some problems uh go at Birth

would be a good matchup I mean be a good fight back and forth depending on who can Implement their game plan

MVP is not bad on the ground he’s not bad he he understands the submission but

he’s nowhere near Gilbert burns his level on the ground no no not that but what he is good with first off he’s got

very big hands yeah okay he’s good at grasping the wrist and controlling

people on the ground with that those wrists and everything and it’s just a matter of he does what he does he’s not

trying to be and he has submissions you know the very first time I left him he pulled off yeah told I’m like the hell

was that you’re supposed to knock people out man then he went and did that in serious Fashions and other fights I did but look he’s good and he he can fight

with any of those guys but I do think that shav caught rachman off is as tough

a fight for him as they can give him out of that top ten yeah I would rather see

the Thompson fight just for my sheer enjoyment in seeing those two guys

but I think that you know honestly rachmanoff is a tougher fight for MVP

than Covington I think he’s a tougher fight for MVP than just about anybody up there well

just so you guys are at home look wherever whoever he fights let’s say he ends up let’s say he comes

in and fights right away he fights Kamara Usman that’s going to let you know how much money they paid him oh

yeah if he ends up coming in he fights someone in the top if he fights a Camaro he’s not gonna fight a Colby since

Colby’s already kind of with him man if he fights a balal or he fights or Burns yep if he fights

one of those three guys they’re gonna that means that they’re paying him a lot of money that means that he’s he asked for

Championship money and we’re gonna pay him the championship money and we’re gonna see how it goes you know

and uh we’ll restructure your contract if you lose and that’s what we’ll do uh but if that that should let you know on

who he gets when he comes in if he gets down there in the Jeff Neal and the other Fighters that were down there

because Dave took it off the screen so I can’t see thanks Dave but if he gets into the Sean Brady the Jeff Neal even

the Stephen Thompson means that they gave him good money but it’s still like okay look I’ll give you one fight at

this purse and then when you get to the top five I’ll give you the other fights at this purse it’s probably what they’re

doing what I would imagine that’s normally how managers will negotiate it say hey I want somebody in the top 15.

okay and I’ll take it for this much money uh if I do win that fight then you put me into the top five guy whoever it

is okay and then I will take it then my contract goes up from then on up and then they’ve already negotiated their

Championship money like if I fight for the title if I end up being the main event all these other things on how many uh pay-per-view dollars they

don’t get any pay-per-view dollars um but right now we don’t even know he’s going there I think he is John come on you don’t know

he’s going there but we do oh I just based upon them showing him in the yeah UFC from London I say that but I would

think the reason why I say that the reason why why do we say that John go ahead and tell everyone why we say those

type of things well first off if you’re the UFC you’re not going to sit there and put somebody

from a different promotion on the screen there’s no reason to it doesn’t do anything for you but if you’re in talks

with them and you believe that they’re going to be part of your roster yeah you want to start to introduce that person to the fan base let them know and then

your your broadcaster you know commentators are going to sit there and say oh yeah that’s so-and-so but and

it’s just starting to get that name out there and so they can start talking about it that’s what you do

well what I what I take it from though is history has shown certain guys that have left other promotions I’ll give you

an example Jake Shields there buddy buddy with Dana sit in case I with Dana then behind Dana then with Dana like you

know what I mean like history is shown when someone a fighter is leaving another organization the Dana’s kind of

already got almost a full guarantee that they’re coming he’ll put them down with him he’ll put them down cage side he’ll

put them you know in this area there so uh that’s when you’ll see those Fighters there uh you know and so I I believe I believe

he’s gonna end up there in uh at the UFC good for him man good for him coming

towards the end of the career and he wants to he wants to take a step and say like hey I’ve been with Bellator my whole career let me see what happens

over here why I still have some speed left in me there you go all right next up he’s still talented

all right I want to highlight a couple of uh um uh tragic instances from this past

week uh we had WWE’s former Champion Bray Wyatt uh Windham rotunda he passed

away at 36 really young uh there’s not been much in the on the situation that

happened with him but we also lost Hall of Famer legendary Terry Funk as well the hero No Big John now and then uh

Terry Fox is a classic man outside of um I say that the sports entertainment

world we had Bob Barker pass as well or what what crazy week I mean inside of the inside of the wrestling world alone

to lose Terry Funk you know absolutely just classic Legend just absolutely

gangster in the in the sports entertainment space and then Bray Wyatt who is just one of a kind uh you know

Second To None just at 36 years old it’s image is me I had the whole freaking hit

up at least another 10 years of work ahead of him and potential ahead of him just tragic and I want to get your

thoughts just you know any anything anything you want to share on on these three well John I haven’t seen too much

of Bray Wyatt because I don’t I don’t watch a lot of the current wrestling and John’s kind of the same way but Terry

Funk I mean I pretty much grew up watching Terry Funk and then um you know and then first thing that went through

my mind was Roadhouse you know watching them on there and just the Patrick Swayze The Roadhouse and

yeah yeah you know what if someone calls my mother a [ __ ] and then Patrick says well is she he just looks at him like

what so just it’s just one of those you know anyways uh sad it’s sad when when

you know people you’ve you grew up watching are gone but Father Time’s

undefeated we say that about sports but we also said about life and uh we were talking about it earlier

is that you just you don’t know when your time comes it doesn’t matter it could be tomorrow it could be in an hour

it could be another 50 years you never know so um sad but it’s you know it

comes in [ __ ] [ __ ] Barker was 99 John 90 or through the winner winner winner

come on man you went to 99. Bob Parker you’re a winner dude I just look at terrified there’s certain guys in pro

wrestling that stand out you know through the years as far as guys that were great for that genre that

the entertainment the athleticism and you know Ric Flair is one of those guys and Terry Funk was probably

you know he was right next to Ric Flair if not you know one step you know even

above him because Terry Funk was the real deal he was a tough dude and he was uh he was a professional

wrestler to the to the core but he was not someone that would take [ __ ] from

anybody and if you if you wanted to think that professional wrestling was fake he was going to prove to you you

were wrong don’t let him grab you it’s the same thing I used to tell people about Jean LaBelle don’t let him grab

you you know I’m telling you right now don’t do not let him demonstrate on you because he will crank the [ __ ] out of

you that was Terry Funk he’s a good man sad day in sports history and sad day

and uh game show history so uh rest easy to uh to these Legends man yep what else

you got for us Dave all right well um wrap up on this one John wanted to look at usick and compare

him to John oh man why didn’t you intro this thing come on you gotta look we had

we did have Alexander usick take on Daniel Dubois USIC one in the ninth round with The

Knockout there was a question thing but take a look at usak he’s doing his work that’s Zumba Josh he’s doing the Zumba

look at him go look at look at Alexander usick he’s just having fun man and I

love that about him but we used to talk about you know the classic was the Techno Viking Keith Jardine the Techno

Viking of all man look at him going him and usick are the same John

it was pretty pretty nice to see pretty refreshing I should say to see a heavyweight move like that now hell yeah

the Techno Viking now sure it’s cool because you know it’s the middle of the day and they’re using techno music and

they’re probably all hopped up on drugs right now in the middle of the day to even dance down the street I can’t tell

you how much probably cocaine or XC is on right now just doing his I don’t know

look he’s just pointing at people telling him you better mind your space and your business you better sit right

there yeah he’s sitting right there don’t you move my question is can this guy fight or does he just look the part

who says he can fight no I’m just saying like the way he’s trying to boss people around I wonder if he can fight this was

one I believe this was like one of the First videos ever on YouTube oh yeah this was a big one this is this

is one that really took off and uh at the time it was a big thing Dave can you can you look this up I don’t see how

many viewers how many views this thing has how many oh it has it has 27 this video specifically the Viking has 27

minutes but it’s only 12 years old which means that 2011 so definitely is not one

of the first because even I’ve got a 2006 video I’m gonna I’m gonna go out on a limb here both guys are moving well

usic’s moving well the Techno Vikings moving well but in a fight I’m going with us you think just going out on a

limb there speaking of Donald speaking of fights man did you watch uh his fight

I did I did watch the fight and you know and I know I know Dubois is upset with

you know saying that he felt it was a clean shot that he hit uh somewhere on the fifth round I want to say it was and

it was called a low blow look it was below the the belt line it’s

down so I don’t know how he can sit there and complain about it and usick hit him with clean shots that put him

down I want to say the seventh he went down and the ninth he went down and uh look at usik is the the

he’s a clean well uh healed heavyweight fighter who technically moves himself

very well in the cage gives I mean in the ring gives guys problems with where

he’s at they think they can touch him all of a sudden he’s stepping back throws beautiful counters his left hand

is just absolute money down the middle yeah he’s the real deal there’s a reason

why he’s got those belts yeah um when I was watching the fight I

missed the first two rounds uh but when I was watching the fight this fight was a lot closer than I thought it was going

to be I thought USIC was going to run away with it now I gave I believe I gave Dubois like fifth and sixth round I know

I gave usik the seventh I gave definitely I gave him I want to say uh the Third

and the fifth Then I then I I think I gave him the third fourth and fifth or

the fourth and fifth I believe Dubois um but I also got to be uh for I thought

you sick was I know he ended up winning by uh stoppage but yeah I thought the fight was gonna be a lot more one-sided

where Dubois had some moments in the early in the early rounds the ones that I saw anyways were here he looked really

good you know and what I also loved was I know it seems a little like kind of God maybe it can come across as

condescending or just like this isn’t the time for him usick came over to him and said hey man afterwards

he was giving him some advice don’t be frustrated with the situation you’re very tense and tight and I could see that about you when I was fighting you

don’t be tense and tight you’re good when you relax your cleanest shots landed on me pretty much like when you

relax that’s kind of what I got out of it from the the post-fight talking conversation between them is that you’re

good you know relax more you’re tense and you your good shots land when you’re when you’re relaxed that’s just being a

good Sportsman yeah and I love that I admire I admire that about it was sick uh I’d like to

see him in uh Andrew Ruiz uh not Andy Anthony yeah Andy Andy Ruiz

sorry I don’t know why uh Andy Johnson yeah Joshua yeah anything Joshua okay so Andy

Ruiz I’d like to see that fight happen but I really believe like what are we outside of the angano fight what are we

waiting on let’s go man let’s go Tyson Fury we know what we’re waiting on your skirt

grab your balls let’s do it oh we’re waiting on the fight the fight John you know who gets lost in this whole thing

though is Wilder oh yeah always and maybe he just doesn’t want to fight

right now who knows I mean but I mean he like he he’s he’s just fun to watch fight I love watching him fight but it

was sick and Wilder I mean I believe I think he was thinking wise it would be great yeah but I think I think Wilder beats him

has a better chance of beating Tyson Fury than he does Wilder I just think the stock the Styles Tyson

Fury can pop he can hit hard he’s got good movement he’s got great cardio all those things usick’s got all those

things as well he maybe doesn’t he doesn’t hit as hard as Tyson Fury he definitely doesn’t hit as hard as Wilder but I think his movement to equal what

what Tyson Fury can do in there with this movement I know he’s a smaller fighter I know he’s a smaller heavyweight but his

movement his ability to make Fighters Miss I think that makes for a very fun fight now I’m not saying he beats Tyson

Fury I’m saying he’s got a better chance of beating Tyson Fury than he does I think uh Wilder not saying he doesn’t

beat Wilder I think Wilder has a better chance of knocking out USA usik than he does Tyson Fury which we’ve seen already

have you know like fight so I look at this fight just this goes back into Styles make matchups man this is a great

fight Styles make matchups usik is a problem for all of them while there’s a problem

with his power for anybody Tyson Fury is just about he’s just a problem for anybody because of his size his speed

his athleticism his movement I don’t know do you even call him athletic because he doesn’t look at it he’s

athletic he doesn’t look at the body of a [ __ ] Goddess that guy I swear I love it I love watching him dance around

[ __ ] touch people up and then just and I like but he’s got a slick tongue too he’s quick on the draw with the

tongue he just [ __ ] just man he says amazing you know you know where he got that from his daddy yep Gypsy did you

did you see did you see his dad at that uh press conference with uh KSI and Tommy Fury Logan Paul Dylan

Dennis it was dude it was freaking John Fury took over man he was kicking

tables he’s the one that started the whole thing man do you think do you think KSI beats Fury

no I don’t think so either I don’t think so either I think Fury [ __ ] I think Tommy lights about yep I

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there many times big fan of what you guys do over there uh fast paced and wild like I love it still undefeated

you’re still undefeated yeah but that’s questionable scoring regarding that it’s kind of like Club Swanson versus duoder

we got some questionable scoring the talk quickly morning combat dot store if you want to drink coffee out of this fantastic mug jet I’d love to see in a

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Jed this is not the direction I’m looking to go I am here to tell you though off the top we got a great show

let’s hit it right here segment number one our weekend review

and topic number one yeah it’s UFC Vegas they were back in the Apex over the weekend in Las Vegas a welterweight five

round Main Event Vicente Luke scoring a unanimous decision over the always tough

38 year old former lightweight champion hafiel dosanjos so what did Luke overcome here Jed how about a one-year

layoff a two-fight losing skid and of course that very scary bout with the career-threatening brain bleed which

Luke did say after the fight he thanked God for essentially a miraculous recovery well did we see a new lucay or

not he wasn’t the Silent Assassin and the violent nature he was very grappling heavy so let’s start out right here Jed

michoud the new Vicente lique uh a necessary Evolution with this grinding

style or did you see a guy a bit gun shy after some legitimately scary turns

leading up to this return maybe both I mean Luke came out basically and said it afterwards like

that first round he was he was concerned which why wouldn’t you be your brain was

bleeding like that I am not a medical doctor feels like when the word is Blaine brain hemorrhage get brought in

uh something not not all that kosher is going down um so I think he certainly was a little

skittish I’m not sure that this is like a stylistic evolution of his though like really uh kind of just felt like the

fight played out that way like he he came in and wasn’t really looking to Grapple but then RDA was so intent on it

and every time RDA would initiate Luke was was being able to turn him and have success and it kind of just felt to me

at least like okay here I’m just gonna go with with the flow here this is a Way

Forward not his typical most exciting you know Vicente Luke is an action fighter Parks

Lots or whatever but uh to get back in the win column coming off a year and a serious medical scare uh I’m reserving

judgment on any grand grand statements about where Luke is in his career but solid performance I I hope he doesn’t

become Luke the grappler because he’s super fun but very very very solid win if nothing yeah

this was a decent fight it didn’t have the fireworks spectaculars that we thought and while you reserved the right to not necessarily need to give a

definitive hot take that’s also what you’re paid for Jed so believe I’m gonna tee up for a second with one but I did want to say Luke did score a career high

eight takedowns and I think it was very clear stylistically that he took advantage of the size Advantage RDA

going back to welterweight trying to reinvent himself and came in in such sick killer shape I mean who is there

anybody in this game that we should respect more than RDA I mean he is the ultimate gangster will fight anybody

anytime but I liked what Luke actually did leaning on the strengths in this particular matchup it’s just look at 31

this is this was a big hill to climb to come back into a five-roman event all that time off all the questions two

losses at the highest level so I do have to put you on the spot to make a definitive statement did Luke show you

enough to believe in what he said afterwards that he believes he’s ready to put together a run that he learned from

those two losses and that maybe I don’t want to see grapple heavy lucay this fight was good but it wasn’t great but

maybe do you think a emerge style moving forward for a guy who’s always dangerous on the ground but

loves to walk into traffic could lead him back to the top of the welterweight rankings no he is not

getting back to the top of the world rankings and that’s okay like I get it he wants to be that guy like every

fighter has those aspirations it’s just not gonna happen for him and that’s that’s not I don’t mean that as a like

to offend him or whatever but we know what he is like he’s 31 maybe he can make some late career super change but

two years ago or whatever blah Muhammad rinsed him I give the fight was not competitive and Below Muhammad is very

very good obviously I’m not sure below Muhammad is the best wrestler in this Division and if he is it’s not by a lot

like the the top of this division doesn’t match up well for him and then even against the guys that you would

think that maybe he could make hay Jeff Neal I I don’t want to say killed him because

we know what happened with the brain bleed again but I I just see no path forward for him this division is getting

younger and better he has a lot of miles on him and he already failed to to climb the mountain basically so unless

something really dramatic happens this is where he is he’s a top 10 top 15 Guy usually incredibly exciting gonna win

more than he loses but probably never going to fight for a title much less win one I’m a little surprised that the

definitive statement out of you Jed the guy’s 31 so he’s got four years before Luke Thomas drops that stat on him how

you can’t win a title at welterweight below or above 35. I don’t know if he’s mentioned that 49 times but ad nausea

would be a good hashtag to put next to that but when you look at this top 10 at welterweight we certainly have future

risers hammers that are coming from the standpoint of rachman off and obviously Muhammad’s on the doorstep of finally

having his big moment but you’ve got the older guard that could be going that way meaning a Gilbert Burns a Wonder Boy uh

you know questions about Sean Brady who’s at number nine there some solid guys in and around that Arizer and Ian

Gary could have a big moment this weekend you don’t think this stylistically adding this commitment to

wrestling could be a thing that I don’t because look what if you asked me before this in the past what was keeping

Vicente Luce from the top I would have told you that it was he’s too much in love with walking into traffic he’s too

much in love with making Wars when at the highest level that is not consistently how big fights are won I

actually liked this Evolution to his game and thought going 25 hard minutes against a a proven tough out like this

it showed me something Jed you’re not feeling that moving forward at Walter White I’m not and for two reasons the first

one is uh look Luke and his stat I’m not here to say it’s a bad stat I think it’s probably a good stat I’m less concerned

in general with fighter age than I am with with years and Luca has been fighting since he was like 16 or

whatever this is his 14th or 15th year of professional fighting and as you said

in that come forward let’s just get into war Style that that is not conducive to a long

career so being 31 like yes he is Young relative and frankly coming into this weekend I was surprised how young he was

I thought he was much older he’s got a lot of miles at least he’s got a lot of City miles on him and I don’t that makes

me very questionable and the second thing here’s a hot take for you uh Javier dos anjos is run at welterweight

is entirely fraudulent or at least like 85 percent fraudulent he was a lightweight champion

there is a very strong argument that at no point in the history of the world has

he been the best lightweight in the world considering he won the belt after Habib dominated him uh but he was a

lightweight champion got a one title defense I think and it’s a very very good top five-ish lightweight his move

up to welterweight sort of just like felt like he had to because of where he was here his welterweight wins BC

because I looked it up beforehand to make sure I wasn’t crazy when I think this it’s Tarik saffidine which at the

time like was a fine win but does anyone care about that at all Neil magni which

is still a quality win but Neil magni is not a top five top ten dude and Robbie

Lawler which I guess at the time was better than it is now but Robbie Lawler is

we we know where Robbie is and then he lost the Covington he lost to Usman he he’s a very good fighter who took

advantage of an opportunity up a weight class but we saw like you said Luke Cage is was way bigger than him and so

beating a very very good fighter in RDA RDA is a tremendous fighter but was did

he beat him because his wrestling’s better or did he beat him because he had 10 to 15 pounds and good enough

wrestling that he could just use that I don’t know uh I need to see a lot more

to think that Vicente Luke is going to have a Charles oliveira-like sure uh late career Renaissance to suddenly be

this uh and that is that would be the comp form right it’s Chucky olives it’s hey you were the super fun fighter who

lost you know a lot as well but were Dynamic and interesting and then you put it all together and now you are making a

a historic run that’s what he has to hope for I need to see more than than beating a puffed up lightweight

it’s actually a fair breakdown there is a Fool’s Gold element there in that size difference I do want to see how lucay

responds if he is back in a fire fight which you would expect inevitably he will be taking top 10 matchups but happy

for this comeback win uh hope the health can stay there believe in miracles I do

uh but that is a scary situation he’s back a good win we’ll see where he goes moving forward Jed I do see the UFC 201

poster over your shoulder Atlanta I happen to be there uh that night but uh

so it wasn’t I were you also at

oh wow look at that look at that uh were you also at the greatest night in my MMA lifetime which also happened in Atlanta

I’m talking about UFC 236 I’m talking about Gastelum arasania Fourier Holloway

too fights have ever ever been a part of

okay because sometimes I like to sometimes people make me feel like you know I’m the only one that’s trying to

tell people that Izzy gasoline was what was one of the three greatest fights in the history of the sport 100 with you

okay and I don’t I don’t know if it’s just because I was there but like I have

there are it’s unquestionably top five for me like that fight was I remember

feeling like I emotionally couldn’t couldn’t watch the main event after it like I I’m not ready to do this I’m

there with you thank you very much uh let’s keep going on this USD Vegas card that Coleman event we had and we had

some stuff happen uh Cub Swanson was back taking on Hakeem dewodu they won

three rounds two rounds to one on all three judges scorecards in the end in favor of Club

Swanson why is this an issue even Cub admitted afterwards he didn’t think he won the fight although he also hedged it

by saying he is his toughest critic we love seeing Cub Swanson there with the wife and kids and it seemed like this

could be this resurgent win for him at age 38 except the Internet kind of blew

up afterwards so look we have this debate on the show a lot Jed when it comes to decisions a lot of times in

boxing to be fair where we have to try to pull through the crap and say hey guys I know you want to yell robbery but

it was it was actually closer than you think was this a robbery was this just a bad scorecard or do does you know Combat

Sports Twitter just need things to rail against how do you weigh in on what happened here with Swanson duodu not a

robbery for two reasons but there’s an argument for it being a robbery for one so the two reasons it’s not a robbery

the first is it’s competitive fight like I think holistically a scorecard of

29.28 for Cub Swanson is not awful um I I scored it 29-28 dewaru but if you

scored it 29-28 for Swanson think that’s fine right I think that that is an

acceptable scorecard the way those scorecards happened was pretty bad I I

pretty much disagree fundamentally with with the judges scorecards that they offered here uh but ultimately it’s not

a robbery because does anyone really care like love Cub Swanson uh an

all-time great one of the most you know all-time action guy like a dude who’s not going to get the flowers he deserves

in his career but a guy who people will remember fondly when he exits the game he’s not making a title run this win and

this loss isn’t like massively substantive in any real way and the same thing with Dorado like shown some

promise but he’s probably not getting there at this point so uh If This Were a main event and a title fight I would

have a lot more scrutiny for for what went on here instead it’s just a competitive fight

and these scorecards are reasonable again I can’t believe I’m about to say this this is going to be the hottest

take I’ve ever said in my life Brian Campbell I think Sal D’Amato is probably the one who got the scorecard right if you’re

gonna go for Cub Swanson his scorecard is the appropriate one of giving uh

Dowdy the first round and then giving cubby the back too Cub clearly wins the third round I’ve seen most people seem

to think that the first round is a swing round I thought that round was very very clearly in favor of of dawadu and the

second round is the one that I’m I’m open to it I thought that would do did more but it was a competitive enough

round and that flurry at the end where it looked like Swanson at least optically was winning I’m okay with you

giving him but this isn’t a robbery because it’s fine it’s like who who’s really

upset about this other than friends and relations of Hakeem Dao do I mean that’s a fair point I hopefully it doesn’t lead

duado you know into eventually getting cut where this could have been a Difference Maker because look I scored

it two to one for duado I gave Cub the third round like you did but I do agree that first round there is a case there

for Cub it’s not ridiculous two of the three judges gave Cub rounds one and three uh yeah I think the I think the

second round there’s a much better case for Cobb I think the first round at the end of round two so you’d have to

lean heavily into that last punch basically yeah but like I I get the Optics from that like in the first round

by almost any scoring metric it seems that dowdu should have won it like particularly because Cub Cub gets busted

up at the end of that round like the visuals alone are one man is bleeding and one man isn’t they landed similar

amount of strikes but I I don’t I really don’t get scoring the first round for

Cub if you score the second round for him I’m at that’s fine I have no issues with it um scoring the first round feels bad to

me I don’t know the closest fight I thought they got it wrong not a robbery you’re

right on look does the value of it truly matter hopefully not in terms of anyone’s job employment but I kind of

like seeing that emotional Hub afterwards though talk about look I love it anytime Fighters are real about the

real life pressures that go into this game about living up to your your reputation which club talked about about

in this case you know he had his wife and beautiful young children right there uh in the at Zuck position cage side and

he basically said look you know sooner or later they’re gonna have to see this so let’s just do this and luckily in this case daddy didn’t get you know beat

up um you know you can question those parenting skills although it seems yeah doesn’t it seem like in boxing it’s more

normal tradition to to bring kids put them in the front row and just be like this is what Dad does I mean we don’t

see that as much in MMA but I did like to see even though I didn’t agree with who get the win I’d like to see I liked

seeing Club get the win and then be so emotional like you said he’s one of those underrated Warriors he does have a

fight that is in the Hall of Fame Don’t Call Him a Hall of Famer though and on my show um but yeah it was what it was I don’t

know uh I it does feel at least in my you’re the boxing guy BC I’m not a boxing guy

it does feel in my exposure to boxing that they don’t seem to have any issues bringing children to events which I

don’t we could we could delve into the moral complications there I’m not sure I have I think it’s a cultural thing in

certain cultures where boxing is literally sport number two besides be Beyond soccer it’s it’s just sort of

like part of life right yeah and I don’t I don’t disagree like it doesn’t seem

ridiculous that you couldn’t bring your child to an MMA fight like one they’re

probably not paying attention right like anywhere they’re probably not going to be super focused on it and two like this

is this is the job like you just explain to your kid what what you’re doing and can all sort of settle in uh maybe

that’s it though maybe maybe Cub bringing his family sort of suede uh I don’t was Ron McCarthy was one of the

judges maybe his his family’s presence there got him got him over with the judges and and that’s a great hack

that’s not bad good on him it’s worked many times in crowded Arenas when the more popular fighter can sometimes sway

the judge just by the crowd reaction the other Big Bang on this largely-ish I didn’t love this card top

to bottom we’ll have more and have you seen the [ __ ] in terms of the big highlights but the other big story Khalil Rountree Jr how about this at

light heavyweight four straight wins three by KO you had Chris stalkers

making a cut down to 205 pounds looking to snap a three fight losing skid instead he got snapped it was a vicious

finish on a straight left cross so here’s the real question here’s the hot question Jed is it about time we take

Khalil Rountree Jr seriously light heavyweight ooh

good question I don’t know you should take him serious if you’re fighting him because he is pretty good

at fist fighting right like he he hits real hard he doesn’t he’s not a Wilson like he’s not going to go anywhere I

don’t know if we should take him seriously as a title Contender that might be a bridge too far for me

um and it’s it’s not a it’s not a condemnation of him but what am I to

gain from watching him knock out Chris Dawkins the most expected outcome of this fight the uh I put a bet on Cleo

Rock Tree by KO at minus 140 so it was a negative number to get that that’s the

outcome we expected it frankly looked pretty similar to what we expected and I just don’t know what how much Credence

to give knocking out Chris Dawkins who has been knocked out three times in a row and was cutting down a weight to a a

harder weight class so this I don’t know how to respond to this fight basically this is what I thought

I’m still pretty in on watching Cleo Roundtree fight anytime he does it because somebody’s getting knuckle

dusted like one way or the other things are going to get going but I don’t is this fight tells me nothing about how

Khalil Roundtree will do against Anthony Smith or Jan bulhovich or whatever like I I gotta see those fights

to to take him seriously as like a title threat but as a top 10 top 12 dude we

you should have been taking him seriously a long time ago if you haven’t already well you got to take his power seriously always and obviously that was

a beautiful finish but I did like overall the Poise I think he’s coming together in terms of confidence and and

figuring out how to be the best of himself but I do agree with you although it sounds like you’re walking onto you

know anyone’s campsite and just pissing on their fire with all these hot takes you might be right here Chris Dawkins

I’m not sure with what is that four straight knockout defeats he’s in a tough spot in terms of future job employment with the UFC after this but a

nice win for Roundtree one thing he did say afterwards was like look give me a top 10 guy more importantly give me a

main event I want to test myself in five rounds let’s find out where I’m at you just said it let’s find out let’s see

him against the Anthony Smith that level of guys in the middle of this top ten to see but a big win for Khalil in terms of

a big highlight there was nice to see topic number two and as I mentioned again have you seen this [ __ ] while more

on this UFC card Bellator 298 went down in the MMA hotbed of South Dakota

another home almost opportunity here for former interim

welterweight Titleist Logan story who probably tore up South Dakota on Friday

nights do you know what I’m saying like go to the local car show at the McDonald’s that guy’s probably just just slaying left and right but here’s the

deal one side of the Super Walmart now yeah indeed indeed well right a

one-sided rematch title loss to yaroslav amisov losing 50-45 on all three

scorecards but he got the comeback when he needed here facing the the rising

Brennan Ward who we know his story recovering from the years out of the sport the Deep drug addiction and had

got that big win on CBS against sabahumasi this was an interesting fight in terms of Ward’s wrestling takedown

defense in the first round but one story was able to secure him there as you’re watching the highlights in round two the

ground and pound was delivered and referee Jason Herzog as you see right there jumping in to stop it Twitter did

blow up Brennan Ward was apoplectic as Moro said great use of that term right there but all in all here Jed

did Story show you some real Evolution here Robbie Lawler in his Corner we know

that the talent at kill Cliff that you can get in South Florida did Story show you enough Evolution to lead you to

believe he’s still in this Welterweight Title picture yes and no so I I don’t want to be a guy

who’s negative because all I’ve been doing is negative BC but that’s who you are feel your anger Anakin you know what

I mean yeah I’m not a very positive guy uh look this didn’t this didn’t make me

think he’s beating yaslov Amazon if that’s the the Crux of the question here no I saw nothing there what is good the

positive here show the killer instinct which has been a bit lacking like you look at his last like five fights or

something they’ve almost all been decisions uh some questionable that he even won those so when he got top

position and could take advantage of it we saw some like real aggression out of him which is a great thing like that’s

you need that if you are going to be in elite elite level fighter here’s the thing BC I don’t know if you know this

because I thought I was crazy I was covering this event and I don’t know if you watch this fight live if you came to

it after if you noticed this I watched every fight this weekend this morning so that that’s all you need to know okay

hey that’s way to do your homework proud of you for that so while this fight is going on in the second round when he

gets taken down I thought that it looked like he he uh Brennan Ward posed his arm out and he immediately like Winston

Payne and I was like oh he probably just jacked up his elbow and then when when stories on top Brendan Ward just starts

screaming at it him the whole time it’s like stand up you I don’t know what

words I’m allowed or not allowed to say on this channel stand up you you obscenity uh I have one freaking arm

just shouting at him before he gets finished so I I left that being like oh he hurt himself in the takedown actually

you go on Brandon Ward’s Instagram uh a message from his wife basically reveals that he ruined his elbow a couple of

weeks before the fight and just did it anyway so I don’t know how much credit to give Logan story for beating a

one-armed man uh how much credit did we give out Jermaine Sterling for beating the one-armed TJ Dillashaw or was the

that dude’s name in The Fugitive so I guess he actually lost the fight to the one arm man still I don’t know what you

give credit to for beating a one-armed man like that I will say again show a great Killer Instinct and you can only

fight the dudes who are in there with you but beating Brennan Ward does not make me

think any more about your chances against yaroslav amisov who is one of the very best welterweights in the world

I mean that’s kind of fair Ward can be a very feaster famine All or Nothing type guy he’s going to go in there and get

hit and throw bombs but I’ll say this about Ward even with one arm it was a poised almost patient attack he had good

moments with a power jab like I mentioned the takedown defense wasn’t bad in the first round he did succumb

there to that grounding pound and got finished although he certainly argued it I don’t know it was an emotional kind of

big win for story you saw that celebration I did see a turn of the corner that I needed to see from story you mentioned it in terms of the music

positive but I just saw I don’t know I saw a guy who looked a little bit more comfortable on the feet than I’m used to

even with him out striking Neiman Gracie in that five round fight I mean that was a sloppy striking battle I haven’t seen

a lot of what I loved in story when he does step up to the highest level although I really respect him I don’t know I saw a bit of that Evolution

enough to be I must love no I mean their first fight was closed and it was a one of the better fights in Bellator history

to be fair in terms of the back and forth on the ground and the reversals that wasn’t there in the rematch amislav

came back after the long layoff and showed us exactly where he’s at yeah I get what you’re saying there’s

some elements are you are you okay with the stoppage because Jason Herzog went on Twitter and was you know fighting

back at all the all the angry Bettors who who lost their their wager because of this that stoppage was kosher in your

eyes right who who was upset with that stoppage

getting laid into like that’s insane to be upset with that stoppage like I know

he complained but he’s a fighter they always do that and like that that’s insane to be upset with that one it was

very clearly a fine stop it uh indeed uh that was the main event there there was some other decent moments around the card Valentine moldovski had a nice

bounce back win there uh beating Big Steve Mowry after their their the first fight ended in a foul uh but I want to

hit some other big Bellator key headlines from the last week here they they announced the big one there

Bellator 300 it’s going to go down October 7th four title fights up top the

Marquee but before we get into that did you see that poster that that originally

showed cyborg versus zingano on it and it had a fridge what was the phrasing I gotta look it up dude what was the

phrasing that was in questionnaire uh finalists oh look it up because I

don’t remember the end of the line or something like that finally it’s over began it began to fuel the potential

Rumor Mill notion that Bellator which no you know all cards on Deck we know that Paramount the parent company preparing

company of this show is looking to sell will pfl buy it we’re not really sure John Ash Nash did go harder in the paint

on the idea that it ends here thank you to uh Long Island look to the prusa it ends here was on the poster a lot of

people said well it’s Bellator 300 the last Bellator card in history Scott Coker at the press conference shot down

John Nash and basically said no we’re already planning 301 and 302. so as it

stands right now for Bellator 300 here let me call up these matchups to give

you a uh a perfect look at this main event of course Ryan Bader defending the

heavyweight title in a rematch with Lenten visel you’ve got cyborg versus ngano for the women’s featherweight title Usman narmaga medov welcomes

former Champion Brent premise and then you’ve got Liz Carmouche defending her title against the former champion and

friend Alima lay McFarland how would you grade this given the historical nature

of this Bellator 300 card one can we just talk about how funny that poster is because the poster is

legitimate hilarious that it ends here because I can like you can squint your

eyes and see what bellator’s saying there like oh yeah they’re talking about the cyborg zinganu like long Brewing

rivalry that has hasn’t come to fruition but then you look at you’re like except for that’s the co-main event when is

anybody ever ever put the the catch law or a thing about the co-main event

that’s that’s just not how it goes so it’s it’s an incredible poster I don’t

think bellator’s done it 300 just because we’re not close enough to it to a selling deal at this juncture that

they’re gonna at least continue forward and finish out the the lightweight tournament or what the Grand Prix so

I think it’s all sort of the same but it’s been incredible like four days for Bellator in that regard

this is going to be interesting four title fights BC that is that’s a lot of

title fights I remember a few years ago when we were starting to see a couple of three title fights think Bellator did it

uh on one of their events a couple of UFC events have done it and the question is like is this going to be like those

old school days where suddenly you run late because all three go to decision adding a fourth in really really muddles

it and creates an opportunity for this to be one very long night of fights but look you’re 300 events go big do

something special do something splashy for title fights that something for a lot of people so I

I will very much be interested in this like I’ll I will absolutely be watching this one and this will probably be the

best event that weekend so that’ll be good yeah but you did tease the potential if the entertainment value doesn’t line up that we could get 20

consecutive title rounds that’s what you’re trying to say it it would be

hilarious and very Bellator for that to happen if you just look at these fights too man

like Ryan Bader Linton to sell feels extremely likely to go 25 minutes

cyborgs and ganu like Cyborg’s been pretty decision heavy uh lately so that

could I would suspect that gets finished but Usman premise I honestly have no

idea what to expect as far as a finish I’ve premise looked very good in his most recent fight and then Carmouche

McFarland very likely is going 25 so we could be in for uh what’s that 200

minutes of fighting something like that we’ll see how that play plays out a lot of the big names had just recently

appeared on that Bellator ryzen 2 SuperCard and then AJ McKee pulled out with injury we know Patricio Pitbull is

expected to be out long with injury uh so we’ll see how that plays out but I like the the effort at least putting

four title fights there to close on Bellator how about this headline light heavyweight champion Vadim nemkoff has

said publicly he’s likely going to vacate his title and move up to

heavyweight now when I ask you how do you like his chances I certainly have to hedge that with the with the notion that

Ryan Bader is currently the heavyweight champion and Vadim amkoff stopped Ryan Vader pretty decisively to win that

title but in general in Bellator nemkoff who’s arguably the best light heavyweight in the world at this moment

this is an interesting choice to do this now do you like his chances to have that

same success One Division higher I mean in ballatore for sure

one heavyweight is just a much worse division than light heavy weight which is also a bad division but if you move

up and you’re a person of means and talent you’re probably going to have a good amount of success there may be an

upper bound to it um but that’s frankly more likely in the UFC where like the top heavyweights are just extremely good

and very large so if you don’t have both you can’t compete in that realm but like

is Steve Mowry are you picking Steve Mowry to beat Vadim he just Steve Bowery

just got tackled tackle late on by Valentin moldovski for 15 minutes and that’s sort of an interesting wrinkle to

this I don’t is nemcov still attached to fate or team I don’t know if he like I know he works with ATT so I’m not really

sure if he’s still in the Fedor team or what uh how Valentin moldovsky would sort of fit into this but I would pick

nimkov to beat Brian Bader and Linton vessel and probably all like if you look at the

Bellator rankings Daniel James is is a top 10 heavyweight like I mean hey his

quickness and striking would be would be a more big big time problem up there uh but I don’t know we’ll see if Ryan Bader

holds on to that title against viscel it has been a great round I mean are you do you subscribe to that notion that nemcoff could be the best 205 around the

planet right now I think that it’s very possible I have pretty doggedly stuck with you

ibrahashka yeah um and I personally think that outside of accomplishment

Magnum and Goliath is the best 205er in the world but to me it’s a three-horse race between those two and and Fatima if

you pick any of those three I don’t have an issue with it and now I guess Alex pereiros

putting himself in the mix as well he’s there yeah those those three dudes I if

if you think any of them are are the top guy I cannot argue against you yeah you

might be right by the way you see Fedor told Ariel on your network that he wants to Box come on we don’t I don’t know

come on oh BC you’re underselling it he didn’t just say he wants the box he said

he wants to box Mike Tyson get it you got to give him the whole the whole enchilada to eat here he wants to box

Mike Tyson and I don’t know how likely that is I don’t know that Mike Tyson is trying to

box but like wouldn’t it just be very combat sportsy in 2023 to see that fight

get made I mean isn’t Jeff Monson boxing um uh Oleg tektarov coming up I mean

it’s not really happening I have no idea if that’s true that’s true or they’re fighting in some form in their 50s in

Russia but uh yeah I don’t know of course it’s in Russia Justin that’s an insane thing yeah I’m done I’m learning

I’ve said this before we had a nice C and I and the whole celebrity crossover boxing bubble is not dead in fact Jake

Paul and Nate Diaz surprised me on being that interesting at least of a fight the

little Dennis might box Logan Paul don’t say it it’s not happening okay

it’s probably not gonna happen my point is there’s still some air left in the balloon on that but in general

this whole idea of old guy fights influencer fights it was great pandemic

wise it was great when boxing couldn’t get in first gear but with where we’re at this year I’m done I’m done with this

I’m done with this you can pull me in I got pulled into Jake versus Nate it wasn’t bad I got pulled in but I don’t

need fatal and Tyson I don’t need this stuff moving forward we should okay BC what what if we what if we do Fedor

versus Anderson in boxing does that is that I mean I I was on the record for a

long time saying Bellator should have backed up a truck to Anderson to have him fight fate or for fedor’s final

fight on CBS and make it a massive thing but uh yeah um yeah all right let’s keep

it going I would watch fate or Anderson I would watch every day there are exceptions to this rule or Jake Paul

fate or Jake Paul uh moving on speaking uh by the way I one time said what about

Jake Paul boxing Nagano on uh pfl and people wanted to like throw me out of the show I I also made that joke it

would be really funny it would uh let’s go to topic number three speaking of real boxing it was a sneaky good boxing

weekend over the weekend and I did Force you for your participation on the show to sit in there and watch it Jed so

let’s talk about it Anthony Joshua was supposed to be rematching dillian white in an interesting fight that would have

potentially set up a Deontay Wilder matchup well then dillian white took every drug

that Darrell Big Baby Miller wasn’t using but how about this how about filling in

the Nordic nightmare Robert hellenius on one week notice he had just won a fight against a no hoper in Finland and Jet I

don’t know if you saw that video of that highlight but who I need to speed up a guy in the back wall in that Arena was just all Stone it was like they fought

in like a well or something it was weird anyway I’ve not seen that [ __ ] we’re back in the UK Joshua takes on helenius

and if you only watch the highlight of the seven round seventh round finish it

was a spectacular one punch knockout from Joshua who set it up beautifully with a jab and landed a looping right

hand that knocked helenius cold if you remember helenius fontiante Wilder and Wilder’s comeback over the past year and

got ko’d in round one but there is a deeper story about this performance from AJ in a second fight under trainer Derek

James there was a lot of criticism even from the announce team on the Zone leading up to the KO about AJ’s output

about his attitude about his confidence level really the sustained sort of

narratives that have come out of not only AJ’s upset loss to Andy Ruiz back in the day that he did redeem against a

fatter version of Andy in their rematch but the two losses to Alexander usick the Meltdown in the ring afterwards look

it has not been a great run publicly for AJ even with the bounce back win against Jermaine Franklin there was a lot to

pick apart in that Jed I’ve you you check this fight out can this Anthony Joshua who called out Deontay Wilder

afterwards and wants to fight him in January in Saudi Arabia for trillions of dollars is this guy back

is this guy who he once was is AJ still in play

to potentially take back over this entire division well look you’re the boxing guy you’re

gonna have to tell me if he is who who he was because this sort of just feels like who he is right like uh I’m willing

to hear the arguments that he’s he’s with with new team and was working some things out and

Lord knows the commentary team was trying to make that case while they were watching him tepidly Paul at Bobby Hill

for six rounds or whatever but this didn’t look that this didn’t look

like a guy who’s going to Captivate the masses other than walking off the bus looks great getting off the bus just

outstanding physique looks like my ideal image of a professional boxer when you

see him standing there like oh that man should be very very good at this he’s a video game heavyweight look at him I

mean he’s an Adonis it’s ridiculous yeah just carved from Stone like unbelievable

uh like the length in all the right places and then he was just pawing at it

and again not a big boxing guy so my uh large exposure to babylonious here is

him getting just sent to the shadow Realm by Deontay Wilder with a little Boop right hand like not even a full one

just a palm in the face and getting killed and so watching AJ sit here and sort of

struggle with him because he was getting touched up like he was never in danger of losing that fight but he he got

tagged once like his face was Bloody it was harder than people wanted it and maybe like the commentator team said he

was just trying to get rounds and you know work through with his new team on some stuff and the Finish was

spectacular but I come out of that fight thinking really want to see AJ Wilder like that’s

that’s been the fight wanted to see for a very long time obviously and Deontay Wilder is just gonna kill this jamoke

like he is just gonna blow his doors off uh and it’s this just sort of feels like

who AJ is he’s he is the prince that was promised but the promise was a lie like he just it’s not it’s not there for

whatever reason he doesn’t doesn’t have it all in that way and so he’s you know he’s going to be a draw people

are going to be interested I’ll I’ll continue to watch his fights I always watch him fight watch I watch all the big names you know Deontay cetera but I

don’t have any expectations that he’s getting you know to to win a belt or the unified title in any regard all right

for an unboxing guy I think he just nailed it let’s break this down I mean AJ still Stars you side effect coming out to a full stadium with that violin

player I mean AJ entrances are always Epic on a pride level I loved it the Showmanship was great it always is and

if you only watch that highlight yeah you can get fired the hell up and and be like man he’s back and let’s see him in

there against Wilder and I think they will and it will be a huge fight but to everything you just said to what Luke Thomas has believed since the beginning

I think is true AJ as it stands now is setting up to get knocked the hell out the ghost disappeared that night in in

the Madison Square Garden in 2019 against Andy Ruiz some people never that’s the best fight of all time yeah

and some people never get back that invincibility Jed when it’s gone and it got knocked out of him that night he won

the rematch against the fattest Ruiz ever but was tepid in in very careful as a box sir and since then you know I

think who nailed it Paulie malinaji I happen to catch his takeball flipping through Instagram yesterday and he

nailed it nailed it completely he basically said if the issues were physical

I I would think Joshua can turn this around but the issues here are clearly mental and I agree with that let me

break it down how I break how I see that Joshua is still in an identity crisis

about who he is as a boxer I think the USIC fight showed him wrongly trying to outbox The slickest

Boxer that the heavyweight division has seen not named Tyson Fury in the longest time and it didn’t go well for him

although he was competitive particularly in that second one he’s trying too hard to be a boxer this

was against the helenius who like you said look Helen is this feaster famine he was once a huge bright Prospect big

punch huge for the weight class as you saw there never quite saw it I mean he got knocked out by Gerald Washington

which was a huge sign had the two comeback knockout wins against kovnotsky to put him back on the map and of course

you saw what happened against Wilder it wasn’t as if helenius did bad or was was it was easy to be plentius was difficult

that’s what he does but AJ wasn’t confident he didn’t build behind that jab I didn’t love the interactions

between him and Derek James in the corner it just doesn’t look like AJ is buying into what they’re trying to do

there it doesn’t look like AJ’s having fun it doesn’t look any more like AJ truly believes in himself if AJ truly

believed in himself I believe in that rematch with USIC he would have done what he should have which is go in guns

blazing knowing you can’t out slick that former cruiserweight Undisputed Champion the Olympic gold medalist who was just

so Dynamic AJ is still in this crisis where we yeah once helenia started to

slow in this fight about round five you finally saw a busier AJ but before that

I wouldn’t call it sleepwalking he was active he was on the front foot he just wasn’t throwing punches it just sort of

like there’s a disconnect there and I’ve never liked the pairing with Derek James not for stylistic reasons not for

coaching reasons Derek James you know arguably the best trainer on the planet even with the one-sided loss in Spence

Crawford but I just don’t think AJ is buying into anything I don’t know if you saw the DX crotch chop after The

Knockout when you mix that with the really bizarre post fight interview afterwards not as bizarre as the one

after the USIC rematch where he commandeered the microphone in like a forest Griffin versus Tito Ortiz rematch

type way this was more of just him not wanting to really answer questions and sort of trying to shout down the haters

in the crowd I just think AJ right now doesn’t know who he is when he’s still

young enough and still physically able if he commits to being what he does best yeah AJ can box he’s won big fights by

boxing against the B level more limited guys but if he’s gonna beat the a guys the furies the usics who are incredible

slick boxers he’s got to be the bully he’s got to be the six foot six jacked guy who’s gonna lean on you gonna use

the fact that he can finish you with both hands that he’s a great combination puncher has a tremendous uppercut that

at times reminds you of Lennox Lewis but the rest of the game doesn’t round out and have that same Lennox Lewis reminder

because AJ is incomplete he’s always been a little bit too muscle bound but he’s made it work especially when

fighting guys who have have a gap in their skill set if they’re not technical enough he can out technical you but if

he comes into a Deontay Wilder match up with this sort of indifference in his eyes yeah he’s going to get absolutely

splattered I mean Jed it’s tough for me in my literally in my basement to be

like AJ man you’re jacked you’re a finisher we know that just go in there and bite down and try to finish guys because look it’s the heavyweight

division one punch can change anything and AJ has always had to be fair I don’t want to say a bad chin but a flashy chin

you can hurt him right dillian white did Carlos tack him to you can hurt him but still in a heavyweight fight sometimes

it’s still about let’s go in there and trade Lumber and let’s see who’s the you know who’s got the bigger punch and the

better chin in this case I love to see AJ I would love to see him use that athleticism mixed with the power and go

after people him trying to feel out be the counter puncher it’s just not gonna work man It ultimately worked against

selenius it’s not gonna work against usick or Fury and with Wilder’s power man I do fear for AJ unless he goes into

that fight with the mindset that I gotta get Deontay before Deonte gets me I mean is that fair Judd

yeah yeah so like I don’t know what to tell him as far as much of this but at a very basic level I

think most of what you said I would fundamentally agree with he’s not having fun like did uh when in

the last like X years has it looked like he has had fun he had fun when that fight was over and he delivered a KO but

the rest of it looks like a man who is absolutely petrified that something bad is going to happen that he is going to

drop the ball that he is not going to meet expectations whatever it is and just like I don’t know man like you’re

fighting a dude on short notice who is not going to beat you and no one thinks just go have fun in there like enjoy

yourself and the result is probably going to come in a much more significant meaningful way like maybe you do get

knocked out but isn’t it better to knock get knocked out having fun than to get knocked out because you are just

throwing nothing but a jab and nobody’s better when you’re actively trying to

win the fight the best way possible when you are actively going after the win and you get caught hey man you got caught

I’m getting a little sick of seeing AJ being too tentative or trying to be the boss or just thinking too much in

general he’s thinking too much yeah just go out let it all hang out just have some fun you don’t have to run recklessly in there but like you could

whatever you’re doing the treat every opponent you’re fighting as if they you are fighting me and you give them no

respect and just see what happens I thought it’ll work out a lot better you’ll have more fun that nastiness that

he’s showing now in these postified interviews like that sort of I’d like to see that in the ring I really would but

hey big knockout he’s gonna get a huge disconnect it’s a huge disconnect between the product produced and the

ring and the stuff said afterwards I do I would like to see him fight both Fury

and while there before it’s all over considering the amount of money that’s being talked about in Saudi let’s get this Wilder fight happening in in

January look if he wins it man he’d be the he’d be the the big gun to fight the winner of this inevitable Fury usick

fight that inevitably inevitably inevitably looks like Fury doesn’t want

knocks him out then it’s not even gonna happen I mean here’s well yeah okay well I mean here’s the deal if if Wilder

knocks out AJ I bet your Fury would still want to fight AJ afterwards because Fury knows the money in an AJ

fight and all that but uh man it was that was in some ways that fight was tough to watch on Saturday speaking of

Saturday in boxing though they promised a potential fight of the Year top rank did 130 pound title fight Emmanuel

navarrete defending against Oscar Valdez and Jed I think they damn near came

close in the end it goes down as a unanimous decision for the three Division champion navarrete who defended

his 130 WBO title two of the three scorecards I thought were wider than they needed to be

but these two guys absolutely went to war it was navarrete’s six inch reach

advantage and awkwardness early but I gotta give Valdez who always shows tremendous heart

props for the adjustments he made in the middle of the fight particularly in round six getting off with those short left hooks using his athleticism on the

inside to Pivot it turned into a Bomb Burner down the stretch when navarrete heard his right hand valdez’s right eye

was closing you had Marco Antonio Barrera and Eric Morales at ringside I mean the huevos were just bouncing

around the arena Jed you were forced to sit down and watch this near classic in

Arizona uh did it live up to everything I told you it could be this is awesome uh of of the many thing

you know very happy and grateful to be brought on this week uh mostly I’m really happy that you told me to watch

this fight because I watched the big fights like I will watch every big boxing match and I may throw on Showtime

boxing or something if I’m got nothing else to do and it’s on but not an avid follower of all of the various champions

in the various organizations so this is my first experience with both of these men I gotta tell you I’m a big navarate

guy now big navarate guy from this because he’s a crazy person uh I am not

a genius at striking I’m pretty sure he does everything wrong I think I’m pretty sure that nobody would ever teach you to

do half the stuff I saw him do in there and it was it was electric like I couldn’t take my eyes off watching this

dude at various points like trip over his own feet because he’s his footwork

is bad and he just sort of like fires punches as oh there’s a window so even

though my feet are crossed and I’m falling this way I’m still gonna throw this left hand and just it was

incredible to watch him like do that leaping lunging like left shovel punch

from out of nowhere that consistently found a home he’s awesome I’m so in on

this dude now so uh this fight ruled it was incredibly fun about that super tough like you said the left hook coming

down the stretch he started to really just swing that as hard as he possibly could and it landed a bunch in like a

meaningful way I think I had it eight to four seven to five on watch but so I if

the scorecard seemed fine I think um well the scorecards were like ten to two nine oh was there ten to two I I wasn’t

paying that much attention to that um I know that the their the concurrent one was eight four whatever and yeah seven

five eight four something like that the fight was just super fun and now I have a new dude who I’m gonna watch every time he fights because the guys

he literally tripped over himself throwing punches which is just incredible I mean he could throw

uppercuts from with both hands from about five feet out with that six inch reach Advantage which is incredible but

here we go he could throw him from two inches in like just a random thing like

oh but like he’s awesome he’s the best the cowboy they call him El Vaquero is

that I don’t do I don’t I don’t do any languages as I dropped a lot of genocide was Cowboy over the week uh yeah so he’s

the cowboy so here’s the deal he was the underdog coming in this is the biggest win of his career by far he had had

those two big ones over Isaac dogbay on the title level at 122 pounds he’s now at 130 and to be fair there was some

questions about which direct not which direction navarrete is going but in some ways how good or great could he be he

had that fight with Liam Wilson where he got dropped early didn’t look great he ended up rallying and stopping Wilson and a lot of people were saying hey man

maybe we need to see that again but they made this fight both guys promised the potential as I said of a fight of the a

year I think they came pretty darn close of living up to it but this was an offset win and this is an interesting

story we don’t talk about navarrete a lot we talk about him as being an action hero we talk about him as he fights all

the time he got fights fights like every three and a half months I mean he’s always fighting but it’s usually against the next guy in line there’s not a ton

of killer names across three divisions on his resume where you’re like oh yeah great win great win I’m just wondering

now beating a guy like Oscar Valdez who is you know I mean is not that far removed from knocking out Miguel Burchell and moving up in weight to win

a second title for The Knockout of the Year this is a great win I’m not ready to put navarrete on a pump for poundless

or anything but we should start really putting respect on his name not just for the warrior spirit and you know the

cowboy hat and the cool tatts and all that but dude he’s a tough out it’s it’s incredible to believe this guy ever made

122 now he is long he’s awkward he’s he’s a man in there and to have Barrera

and Morales at ringside to have Joe test on on this is very cool the broadcaster ESPN losing his mind and probably his uh

other fluids throughout the whole fight it deserved it a huge win full respect

to navarrete and by the way Shakur Stevenson who has fully moved up to 135 and did widely outclass Oscar Valdez

said hey I’ll find navarrete having to catch weight if you guys want me to but that’s more because apparently

lomachenko turned down Shakur’s request to fight I don’t know if you know Shakur well here Jed but he’s uh but if anybody

if there’s any fighter on the planet who you could say he looks like Floyd there’s some Floyd elements to him Devin

Haney at times Shakur Stevenson yes I mean this guy’s coming he’s coming okay dude he would probably again

again I’m sure that real boxing heads will be like you’re an idiot my my

actual biggest takeaway aside from the Navarette is dope and I want to watch this insane dude fight uh I think it

would be incredibly funny to to watch him box the silly limo trenko to see the

difference in footwork that those two men like I think I think I could actually

watch Vasily lomachenko completely encircle this man like actually just walk around him in a circle and it would

be great I would watch a fight I would pay a hundred dollars to watch that fight indeed indeed we also had a

Showtime championship boxing triple header over the weekend from just over the river uh from DC and Oxon Hill

Maryland Luke Thomas and Steven breadman Edwards on the undercard call that was nice uh big wins for Emmanuel Rodriguez

gaining another world title 118 pounds also Gary Antoine Russell uh taking out Ken Cruz but here was the big talk the

opener on this telecast turned out to be a monster upset via stop it so here’s

the deal Trayvon Marshall came in with a 7-0 record a big time sort of tag on him as a hot Prospect he was going in there

against Gabrielle maestre a two-time Venezuelan Olympian who only had seven

or six Pro fights coming in he was five all in one coming in yes so sell me on

Marshall because I don’t I I don’t had no idea who this was until I watched this fight like why is he so so hyped

he’s a good Prospect I’ve called some of his fights on the on the early prelims there for Showtime he’s he’s quick

confident aggressive got a good right hand all that stuff but here’s the deal he was coming in against Maestro who’s

36 but was a two-time Venezuelan Olympian and only had six Pro fights

coming in at 501 but yet they set the line here at minus 9.50 for Marshall the

betting favorite now I haven’t seen this line coming in I would have favored Marshall to win of course here but I

wouldn’t have favored him by a lot and what ended up happening Maestro turns in a second round thunderous stoppage to

score a big upset and I get what you’re saying sort of after the fact it’s it looks like man what did we ever love about Trayvon Marshall well we loved him

at a certain level taking out the guys he was expected to but I wanted to ask you because Jed I I did peep you’re in

your LinkedIn page ahead of uh later on we’re gonna have a nice fun segment getting to know Jed which you have

described as a awkward Tinder date between the two of us it says on there that you’re a former professional

Gambler hold that thought right there boxing odds makers the lines as we talk

about a lot in the show for Friday’s okay Bet boxing matches are usually a lot wider now I understand setting lines

is more about inducing betting activity than necessarily outright telling you this person is going to win by this much

but can I ask you professional Gambler X why are we so wide in boxing who could

have commissioned this fight Maya I wanted to let people know here Gabriel mastry not a household name coming in but he knocked out Diego Chavez former

World title Challenger in his second Pro fight he scored wins over a faded Devin Alexander and a good fighter in Michael

Fox he fought to a draw with unbeaten Terrace shella stuck so this guy had

done some things here as a two-time Olympian how in the hell was this minus 950 and what is going on with boxing

line making in your opinion so I can’t speak to this fight in particular uh I will also just say that

I’m gonna default to Vegas because I don’t know if you’ve been there but it’s it’s not a town of poverty yeah they

tend to win it would appear that they’re they’re doing okay in Vegas so I’m going

to assume that they know what they’re doing at least in the broad spectrum of things uh but when you said that you

know boxing lines are or not just like every line is is not to really show

maybe a hey who’s going to win or not it’s going to incentivize betting it could also

just be to disincentivize betting to hey we really don’t want to take any action on Trayvon Marshall because we think he

is going to win and so there’s just not like if if the lines are low then

everyone will just get on this and then we’re going to be in a position where we’re just paying out a bunch of winners so we’re going to disincentivize that uh

and occasionally they’re going to get hand in the cookie jar happens five or six times a year in boxing where some

plus a thousand Underdog comes through with the big KO I have no idea why they would have set this line at minus 9.50 I

haven’t watched either of these dudes fight before this one but immediately as soon as this fight started I said to

myself self that looks like a grown man fighting a child because it was 36 year old dude fighting a 22 year old

I personally have made this assessment for MMA and other things I would never trust a 22 year old child

with with a heavy responsibility for anything because I was 22 once BC I

assume at some point in time you were 22. oh would you call yourself reliable would you call yourself a good smart

person who maximized the things that you were doing I was a [ __ ] idiot so I

called myself reliable to about age 33 my wife would probably say I’m not there yet but at 22 I was an abject train

wreck yeah right I didn’t have any like I had no and sure he can be further along in that aspect of life in sport

but like he’s still a kid he might wake up one day and his Accutane like F’s up

his hormones and he’s like oh well I don’t I’m not feeling it today whatever

you just can’t do [ __ ] anymore so I have no idea why you’d ever install a 22 year old kid as a minus a thousand betting

favorite that seems like bad bad principles and I I hope that some people who are more in tune to boxing took

advantage because if I wasn’t like it wasn’t a runaway but he wasn’t winning the fight in my

estimation before he got knocked out well he’s facing a guy with extreme experience there two-time Olympian had

beaten in six Pro fights had faced some legit guys so I don’t understand that line I believe that was FanDuel who had

that line I saw Luke Thomas tweet that out but uh I I Trevon Marshall had looked good but again he’d been fighting

the kind of competition a guy who’s one and oh two and oh three and o4 no should be fighting this was a step up

and he got stepped down he did put on Instagram that he’s gonna bounce back he you know he’s going to learn from this all good on that regard but a big win

for maestre and an interesting turn of events there uh to close there Jed what

kind of professional Gambler were you well uh I was I was doing sports betting

primarily on MMA all right also again you were checking my LinkedIn so like

it’s one of those things where you put it on the resume and like the total validity of it is

a few bets at times does that make me I did in fact have my primary income come from gambling for a period of my life uh

hold that thought until we ever see it later on today let’s keep the train moving topic number four looking forward

speaking of Anthony Joshua versus helenius there in the UK sold out Stadium everybody was there including

Conor McGregor who looked like typical Conor McGregor of late a little bloated

probably drunk or more that’s just me editorializing uh he was ringside he made a lot of

noise he sat down with uh talk sports Gareth a Davis the Warlock himself to

lay out a three-fight comeback plan over the next year or so in the UFC he also

very sloppily post-fight called out KSI to a bare knuckle fight so basically Jed

this was typical Conor of late which means I’m

not sure this guy’s ever going to fight again or should but let’s go piece by piece before I get your reaction on what

we did see because you know Conor’s not in the usada pool fellas yet he thinks he’s going to fight soon let’s listen to

Connor’s three-fight plan here with the Warlock I knew you’re fighting Chandler are you

all gonna do it you have to I have to I’ve been teasing him I gotta just do that with him yet

are we gonna see you in another boxing match as well the second richest fight in history when you fought Floyd

Mayweather yeah am i k soy over here he couldn’t box it he couldn’t box eggs if he walked in a

egg boxing Factory here it’s always great our Channel Next December and then gave

you BMF and then we’ll do Nate brilliant cheers thank you

all right let’s start there Jed um and if anyone say oh BC hates Connor I love Connor that’s why I’m being so harsh

because it’s obvious this guy’s a train he this guy is me at 22 but right now so

Jed um is he ever gonna fight in the UFC again is he really fighting you notice notice

the verbiage there he said Chandler because I have to that tends that tends

that tends me to believe this disappointed Chandler I’ve ever heard in my life so uh are they gonna give him

the Brock Lesnar exception or what what’s happening here oh a thousand percent I’ve been saying this forever I

don’t I’m still not confident he is actually fighting Michael Chandler I’ve been pretty adamant that he’s not going

to fight Michael Chandler but uh I’m pretty sure that when he does come back

it will be with the Brock Lesnar exception because they can do it and it will be worth it to them monetarily and

there will be some blowback but I don’t know if you remember uh this crazy thing happened at the beginning of the year

Dana White hit his wife and we moved past that in like three weeks so I’m pretty sure that the UFC can can take

the big bag of money that Conor fighting presents and move past a bad headline or two of oh the exemption blah blah right

like the general public is going to be so freaking excited for McGregor Chandler like we were when Brock came

back that like even though Mark hunt deserves a lot of our respect Financial money a

lot more Cloud deserves a lot right now Brock took the exception popped for them an

insane amount of PEDs and looked like he was a superhero and we’re all like you know what they’ll probably just let

Conor do the same thing and you know what because membership has its privilege nobody’s going to care you’re right nobody’s going to Care why

wouldn’t they like I’ve seen some people be like oh the fighters would be pissed like sure they would why does the UFC

care do they care at all no like the fighters should have been mad when they got cut out of four Billy and they

didn’t do [ __ ] then they’re not gonna do [ __ ] because Conor gets to fight again so whatever like the uc’s just gonna do

it on whatever time on Connor wants because it’s worth a lot of money and one bad headline isn’t going to kill him so I’m really not sure he’s fighting

Chandler uh I do think the thing he outlined there is the actual like correct path forward of come back fight

Chandler assuming he wins if he can win big assumption there fighting gaichi for

the BMF belt or whatever totally reasonable and then after that uh the

Nate Trilogy has sort of just been waiting forever so I I think that makes a ton of sense on a timeline

um dude if we get to the name Trilogy if we actually get to the Nate Trilogy the

odds of Conor losing both the Chandler and gaichi fights would be huge um especially by knockout in both if it

had you know yeah could he beat Chandler of course could he be gauge it’s possible of course it’s possible but what has what over the past year has

given you any level of confidence that it’s still likely no that’s why I’m saying I love the guy but but you know

I’m kind of done dude if we get to the Nate Diaz fight though remember both of these first two fights were in 2016.

dude this is gonna look a lot like Robbie versus Nick Diaz part two it will

and that was some of the saddest grossest [ __ ] I know a lot of like hardcores are like no man that fight was great they went to war no that was some

of the saddest grossest MMA shot I’ve seen in a while since it’s not necessarily uh the heart attack match

between uh R.I.P Kimbo and dada but dude that’s it’s it’s gonna be gross like you

they Pro here’s what I’m saying they probably should just do con or Nate now why would you line up Conor to lose to

these guys your answer would be because we made them Ultimate Fighter coaches and they’re supposed to fight at the end but uh there’s

I don’t know so here’s the other part about coffee I wouldn’t agree they should do Connor Nate now but Nate’s in

disposed at the moment so do you believe by the way Nate’s manager saying he made like upwards of 20 million in that fight

yes that’s a lot of freaking money wow uh so some I’ve editorialized you know

remember when Connor got caught in the bathroom with that woman at the at the NBA Finals halftime you know and then Connor’s caught in a lot of a lot of

videos with women and people like finally people like BC and my DMs they’re like yo obviously he’s got an open marriage man stop worrying about

this guy’s personal is he married

I don’t know if they’re married I don’t know but they really portrayed him during Conor’s documentary as the

ultimate family man let’s go to the videotape here’s how Conor arrived to the fight documentary on Saturday

um yeah it looks pretty open to me Jed probably not my business to say that out loud but yeah

that’s where we’re at and then you mentioned it and a lot of people mentioned it including Luke Thomas angrily on Twitter after the fight

Anthony Joshua had gone through the robes to go celebrate outside Connor brought out one of his forged Irish

Stouts I saw all this live and it was the funniest thing in the world meanwhile AJ’s nose is still gushing

blood from that fight that’s uh that’s something right there uh what do you think happened to the rest of that beer

you think Connor chugged probably uh he didn’t throw it at anybody I don’t think so you probably

just finished it off later the the AJ thing is incredible I did not see the bus entry I missed that

um look I’m not here to judge his personal life and that’s my priority if yep not mine if he and his uh again I

don’t think they’re married if they are and if he and his wife are okay if not he and his fiancee whatever makes them

happy I’m I’m happy it can’t be that bad right I

agree who is that Sheryl Crow yes nailed it uh but yeah the forcing uh the

awful beer to age dude that’s the thing like that’s remarkable Conor is so far

past caricature right now and it kills me because dude where he was on top of the mountain

after the Eddie fight will just never be rivaled and if you want to say who cares about the second half of his career look

at the money he made against Floyd look at you know he got into the biggest fight in history against Habib look at all this stuff

yeah but the second half of his career has been not only a train wreck it’s just missed opportunity after missed

opportunity for the the biggest greatest lightning rod in the history of the sport a guy who has fueled so much so

much fandom and financial success for the company and to see him in the final years here while he still may or may not

potentially have it not using it or I mean it’s it’s it’s rough it’s been rough but I got to get over that and

move on speaking of really worthless super fights that may or may not ever

happen like Chandler versus Conor for the tough coaching Championship there’s this another one topic five that we hate

talking about and that’s Zuck versus musk the billionaire battles it’s like

Trump versus McMahon part two there from WrestleMania all those years back so here’s the latest update yesterday on

threads whatever meta-induced social platform that is at Zuck has revealed that yeah it’s time to

move on from this fight let’s go to the screen grab here from Luke Thomas’s Twitter Zuck is saying I think we all

can agree that Elon isn’t serious it’s time to move on I offered a real date Dana offered to make this legit for

charity Elon won’t confirm then he says he needs surgery now he has to do a practice round in my backyard instead

and they did share those leaked text messages somebody did if they’re real or not I don’t know online and then he says

if Elon ever gets serious about a real day he knows how to reach me otherwise time to move on I’m going to well I

don’t care where you’re going Zuck Leave Me Alone um the other updates before I get your reaction here Jed was previously Elon

Musk had tweeted out can we throw to that one that uh he doesn’t want the UFC to be invite involved at all in fact he

says this this fight would be managed by him and zuck’s Foundations the live stream would be on their platforms and

he’s referencing a comment Dana White made on the Mike Tyson hot boxing podcast where Dana White said

I had just had a meeting with the minister of culture in Italy about doing

this fight at the Roman Coliseum

well Zuck says it’s over I don’t know if I should ask you like your reaction because obviously your

reaction is like I’m glad F this but in in your in the people versus Dana

White in 2023 his Shameless like lust for this fight is it the worst part

of Dana’s public you know we’ve had wife slap power slap we’ve had a lot of bad

Dana moments this year the the Zuck versus musk charade

can we fill out good undercards and get out of the Apex here and stop worrying about this BS please

I’m fine with it from Dana on this one um it’s better than when he hit his wife so you know at least we’re not doing

that anymore it’s great uh no this is I I get this one which is why like I maybe

at some level can understand powerslap at least the idea behind it but it’s very silly and stupid idea that’s not

going to work so you should abandon it and at least not shove it down my throat but I’ve also largely like I’m not

nearly as anti-power slap as many other people in this space are I just kind of don’t care and I don’t have to engage

with it in that way I totally get this one because in the thing where he says he talked to the Minister of Italy or

Italian Commerce or whatever it was he very explicitly is like hey uh this

would be the biggest fight in the history of the planet um I think that this would do a billion dollars in revenue and well maybe that’s

high the other parts of it are all right if these two dudes ever were to fight it

would be a cultural event on of the the likes we haven’t seen in at modern times

you’re saying it would be bigger than Joe Frazier versus Muhammad Ali part one at Madison Square Garden is that what you’re saying yes yes

that’s true equality it’s not from quality obviously but more people would

watch that fight than anything other than the World Cup maybe like

legitimately because the World Cup does like a billion viewers or whatever globally outside of that like I don’t

think anything’s gonna touch what these two actually fighting would do so I get Dana’s play for the money like hey you

gotta wme’s got that got that lone note carry on then he’s trying to pay off

like that that could cover it all sure so I get it um so it’s fine with it um it’s is it Shameless and stupid of

course but this whole thing has been very dumb uh I I think it’s been very

funny I can you just think of how deranged a person you have to be to make

Mark Zuckerberg come off as like a totally chill reasonable guy like think

about the the character Zuck was like six months ago even and now like oh yeah

he’s the rational one he’s like he’s the guy I’d rather have a beer with than this insane dude who’s making the worst

jokes possible and clearly ducking the fight like he clearly doesn’t want anything to do with suck so it’s it’s

insane um when they announced it I did play Devil’s Advocate with Luke and I agree

with you if it happened it would be just a bizarre crossover have to see it the whole world would stop I guess Dana’s

shame level of lusting after this was only compared in in terms of his like I

will get Habib to get out of retirement watch and then you know 18 dinners later habib’s like no I’ve promised my late

father leave me alone I want to go get fat right so it’s like yeah I don’t know maybe I’m too deep in the in the

anti-dana weeds this year because he’s made me maybe that’s what happened okay yeah no this is this is not even close

to the worst things Dana’s done in a while this is this is fine like I I totally understand and can even

appreciate this one so there’s this thing in pro wrestling fandom sometimes Jed where you know there can be

short-lived factions in pro wrestling like you know Duos or whatever or slogans that get popular and they make a

t-shirt about it where you could say as a fan hey that’s the lamest yet I’ve ever seen but I better buy that t-shirt

now because in five years it’ll be hilarious to roll that out right like zuffa boxing t-shirt for example is

there any part of you that’s like you know I might secretly pick up one of those Zuck versus musk at the UFC shop

just so 10 years from now at like you know growing out with my boys I can pop everybody no no no no I I will do

everything in my power not to give either of those gentlemen any of my dollars uh or contribute in any way to

there they’re reading your emails right now just so you know oh and that’s fine um look they I’m sure they have a lot of

dirt on me and that’s okay I will if this thing ever did happen which it won’t I don’t it’s it’s not real it is

extremely false if by a miracle it happened I would campaign heavily to attend as a media member and and to

cover it live because why not why not be part of the circus the circus is fun sometimes uh even if it’s really really

stupid which is what this would be it’s hard for me to get all uppity and be mad because I like a lot of circus in my

combat but this is this is Extreme but hey uh yeah 52 year old 52 year old the uh Elon who I mean is

Twitter really called X I don’t know what’s happening in the world anymore let’s move on but Zuck is pretty fit and speaking of Being Fit dude musk is

afraid of him and he’s calling him a chicken it’s incredible like it’s incredible incredible it’s lame uh

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you’re not you’re not alive okay you so you’re still in the game right still in the game out there uh I respect

whoever wrote that copy because they’re clearly a young person that was also the part about yeah oh well then did you

never do the MapQuest because you didn’t ever print out a happen directions because I absolutely did that

all right uh without further Ado we know Jed is not quite washed but what else do we know about Jed hey if you’re if

you’re new to this guy like I recently was welcome to the party pal yeah it’s time to play getting to

know Jed michoud the second there it is right there look

at that quick graphic that they worked up right there Jed similar to what Luke has done with a Braun lately filling in

for me on vacation I’ve got seven power packed questions here for RMK

award-winning listeners to find out more about your degenerate ass are you ready

I don’t know but uh let’s do it okay topic number question number one Jed

your aforementioned LinkedIn page says you have get this Jed all right you actually apparently you did get this a

doctorate in law from Georgia State University holy [ __ ] dude I’m a College

Dropout oh my God so here’s my question Jed if congratulations first of all didn’t see this coming why the hell are

you covering cage fighting for a living dude uh it’s funny you say that I sometimes

have that exact thought when things get real dumb and you’re doing like you’re

deep into covering a Bellator card with it’s been a thousand decisions and you’re like I could be an attorney right

now why did I make this choice of my life the answer is because being an attorney largely sucks uh if anyone out there is

watching this and is an attorney I bet they agree with me because most of the attorneys I either went to law school

with or I know outside of it are like uh just a lot of the job is is really trash my personal experience of it was uh the

only fulfilling work paid like [ __ ] because you’re doing you know Public Defense or whatever which is extremely

stressful and pays like [ __ ] uh but at least you’re doing something that feels meaningful or all the things that pay

really well are morally uh questionable to say the least so I bounced pretty

quickly into my law career I was like this just isn’t for me let’s find something else but dude you did the work

if you got a dog you’re a doctor you’re a doctor Jed meshu number two that’s true technically that is true yes I do

have a doctorate I can go around most attorneys do not do so but the same

conversation I had with Luke Thomas when he revealed to me that he was formerly a Washington DC speech writer for some of

the most famous politicians over the last 20 years I’m like why are you covering Bellator from South Dakota then

um congratulations Jed I mean you’ve turned this into a very viable career you’re a full-time writer a heck of a

podcaster but uh if I should step outside of the law can you defend me

not now I can’t I let my bar by bar passage lapse uh because I wasn’t going

to use it I mean I could get it back if you like really needed me to I guess but yeah let’s see what happens with this

you want me making your case for you let’s see if I end up getting fired for

something I said I’ll were you on the defense or were you uh for the good guys where were you uh I largely did

plaintiff work okay interesting stuff there question number two on getting to know Jed which fight

is most responsible for igniting your MMA fandom

that’s a really good question so I’ve been an MMA fan for a very long time uh

I first got introduced to it pre- uh like 2002 2003 uh when I was in high

school uh just making that transition up from middle school to high school but I wasn’t like deeply ingrained in the

sport I just kind of would see some fights every now and again I think the it’s very very stupid uh the first

season of tough like did a lot to sort of make that more accessible um I think the first fight that I really

watched and was like this is very very dumb but I’m now I’m now all in was

it’s either fatore versus zulusinio because that was just hilarious and and

I watched that clip like a billion times uh I think the first pay-per-view that was ever like a really big one was uh

Matt Hughes Frank trig two um was that the slam the running slam or

was that the first one I mean they were both the same but yeah um yeah the running slam finish like that was I

think that was the first pay-per-view I ever watched with like some friends and was like oh this is very very cool and

then I started to do the Forum thing a little bit you know being an internet kid and uh then when Fedor beats losing

he was like this rules this is this is it for me I’m here now I didn’t expect

fate or Zulu Xenu but uh everybody does have a entry point uh I watched early

ufcs on Black Box pay-per-view uh the first four or five like a lot of people wow and I was in and out on fandom I

mean I watched like remember when UFC would be on Best Damn Sport show a lot they like Shamrock would be on there and

I was watching in and out then but it was really the uh the uh Chuck Liddell

getting knocked out by Rampage was the fight that that brought back on like a deep level because I was working at ESPN

and that was the first time they took it seriously that they were like there’s something in this sport you know what

I’m saying that was the that was the first fight that I probably spent like

the most time thinking about as them doing them doing that rematch and like it was so built up and I was like I

really don’t know who to pick Chuck has looked so good but like Rampage already has the win blah blah blah and then it

was over very very quickly and I was like oh I’m an idiot yeah Chuck was on the cover of ESPN the magazine at that

point which was like really big deal for cage fighting there you go indeed yeah not quite Roger Huerta on Sports

Illustrated but question number three Jed michoud what is your alcohol drink of choice

oh this is easy um I am from the south I was born and raised in the South uh I’ve functionally

lived in the South my entire life except for a brief period where I lived in Vegas doing the gambling thing uh give

me Bourbon and my we can start there and then my mixer is going to either be

ginger ale or sweet tea I could do it neat but if I’m if I’m having several I will need a mixer I’m not that manly

that’s very south of you I like that I like that extremely Southern there it is all right uh sweet tea is the drink of

the Gods as far as I’m concerned yeah I don’t think I’ve ever had that I’m not a bourbon guy you know I I mean I gotta it’ll change your life BC next time you

come to the a I’ll introduce you you’ll never go back I’m also a wild turkey is my casual bourbon of choice for those

wondering all right there we go we’re gonna but you can buy all you single ladies can buy or single men depending

on your lean Jed can buy you a drink when they see you out thank you question number four getting to know Jed better

uh as a former pre-established professional Gambler living in Las Vegas what was your most degenerate Rock

Bottom moment my most rocked bottom moment was earlier this year uh I don’t know if you were

aware of this BC um Valentina shipchenko been a pretty big supporter of her yeah and uh against

Tyler Santos I very boldly put my entire gambling bankroll on her and that was a

sweat it was a big big sweat and then I was like you know what Alexa Grosso she can’t win this fight there’s just

nothing I’ve seen her do has led me to believe that she could win this fight we ran it back and um oh boy you lost it

all dude you lost it all lost lost the entire gambling bankroll which wasn’t

fun is that more than a month’s rent it’s more than a month it’s certainly more than a month

um you know I’m not destitute because I’m not I’m smart enough not to gamble with money I don’t have to lose yes but

uh there’s a clip running around in the internet somewheres of me it was I was I

was on the MMA fighting watch party for that fight with the esteemed Mike Heck and Connor Burks and we watched it live

so you can see a live reaction too I gotta look at that to a man losing

um a substantial summer the opposite of watching Robbie Foxx celebrate uh Conor

beating Donald Cerrone from ringside with his uh laptop cam it was the opposite of that right it

it was probably wasn’t like the worst moment of my life because there are more important things that have happened out

there but like it wasn’t a good one it’s pretty bad we we got we had to recover

um but I have tried to approach it with a Rosy Outlook I might just run it back again because now my gambling bankroll

is much much smaller since I had to start over well that’s absolutely most

decent moment for sure I I’m a very limited Gambler just dabbled over the

years here and there but there was a point in my gross years in my early 20s where I was like you know what if I

don’t come up with some type of cash I’m gonna have to move back home and that would be shameful so I’m gonna drive an

hour to Foxwoods and put my entire what I’ve got left down on Like An All or

Nothing roulette 50 50 type bed and oh yeah and you know what happened I drove there and I walked in and I didn’t have

the balls to do it and then I was like okay this is good this is the end this is the end for me okay this is it this is it so I turned around and drove right

back home oh it’s very reasonable of you but the story is much better if you do it and then it comes up green uh

question number five this is more of a you know question named your boy BC but I’m curious uh Jed

in your opinion who’s the greatest strawweight in UFC history

and I don’t mean who’s your favorite igfollow you dirt hole I don’t follow any fighters on IG it’s

just it’s too hard there’s a lot of them uh I think it’s yawning and JJ I think that

I feel comfortable calling you Ani and Jay chick the best shall wait um and even though rose beat her twice

and Whaley twice are you serious yeah um you could make a very compelling

argument for us not here to say Rose is even wrong but for me when you are one

half the losing half of the worst fight in modern history

um you that that’s a big Point against you yeah Rose’s Rose’s rematch with Carlo was

awful in a way that really makes me like reevaluate her whole career

um and maybe that’s unfair but like you and I have had this argument about other Fighters and other things I put a

ton of stock in in title defenses and being at the top of the mountain and

yeah Joanna has done that more than anyone I think Wei Lee has a chance to sort of take the reins but I also think

Tatiana Suarez is she coming and I don’t know how that works out for William dude I got it Rose has got some balls moving

up to fight foreign it’s a very questionable move um I think she’s going

to do well against you she needs she says she needs things that scare her at this point in her career Esparza apparently didn’t scare her I don’t I

don’t understand that like and look if if that’s the case then okay maybe that’s no it brings me she thinks it

brings out the best in her when she’s not expected necessarily to dominate as opposed to the opposite and I do understand that we’re all human yes Jed

we’re all human okay don’t talk about my ladies like this all right yeah she should have been scared

that she wasn’t doing anything it was gonna lose her belt to Carla’s freaking Esparza Joanna is the most decorated and

absolute Savage arguably my favorite fighter ever let’s keep it going number six Jed

what was the most white trash part of your Georgia upbringing let’s be fair let’s put all the cards on the table

here because you know I I grew up eating that 7-Eleven a lot you know people know this about my raccoon past

so this is an easy one I this has never come out in any of the stuff I’ve done over the last like seven years

um but you’re gonna love this piece this is gonna be your favorite piece of information ever uh for my entire uh

youth until I was 17 years old I had a rat tail

dude that I cut that off all right come on I want to be extremely clear when I

say I had a rat tail uh we’re not talking about like a rat tail like we’re

talking about a rat tail oh I had a rat tail I’m from Savannah Georgia I swear

to God if you ask anyone relatively close to my age range from that City if

you know who Jed Mushu is they may say no like right like it’s it’s a it’s a town it’s not like small but it’s not

big but if you ask basically anyone relatively my age range you remember the kid with the rat tail they were like

sure do kid played soccer with the rat tail yep the easiest answer in my life I’ve I’ve

hidden that fact for all for the last second wait did you have a nickname did they call you like a lot of people

called me rat tail that’s a fantastic nickname because when I think rat tail I think like tough guy rat tail like Lucas

Matisse in boxing you know like no you’ve got a dirt hole right no this was this was this was yay long maybe

slightly bigger and braided first of all I need a picture for the next time you appear and second of all I’m gonna guess

you were celibate during those years uh look it didn’t I maintained strongly

that it turned me into who I am today because when I was really small I would just fight everybody who like picked on

me and nobody picked on me and then um you stopped being five or whatever and people grow at different rates and then

you start trying to punch people who make fun of you and uh you start getting your ass be eat so you can’t you can’t

pick fights anymore because it’s no longer whoever throws the first punch wins so then I just turned into me

um look it probably wasn’t the best choice it’s ever been made it just sort of happened uh it it just it happened

and then there it was and then it finally left and you are correct PC uh

upon its exit I’ve had much more success coach I’m now ready to play yes so I

from ages 18 to 20 I had an on it so I could only grow fade I still can’t grow facial hair as people can see but uh

from 18 to 20 the only place I can grow facial hair was on my chin so I had a goatee that curled under like the

grossest goatee but I was just so happy that I could finally grow something I didn’t have to shave until I was like

sorry I didn’t have to shave with shaving cream by the way until I was

like 21. so the fact that I could actually grow something in one spot I just let it go and it like it it curled

under like disgustingly by the way real quick nugget I worked at McDonald’s uh beginning in 1995 and they had a no

facial hair roll below the lip I’ve told the story before how I I had a date my senior year high school that was coming

up so and I had a good goatee going so I put a Band-Aid over it to make it look like I was injured so I could work but

they had this thing in the back in the first aid kit called the community razor and if you showed up for work with a

five o’clock shadow and hadn’t shaved it the manager would say go use the community razor which had no shaving

cream and had been used before by many people you were expected to dip it in hot water

and just shave off I mean this is you know would you be surprised that when I worked at McDonald’s they still sold

pizza and I’ve seen Pizza dropped on the floor and picked right back up and served many times I didn’t know that

McDonald’s ever sold pizzas they did but it was wonky because it took a half hour to to McDonald’s yeah well then it’s

McDonald’s on top of that uh finally number seven Jed I just found out and you and I talked about this pre-show I

had no idea and I apologize that you didn’t come onto my radar until relatively recently Jed I don’t know if

that’s a me problem or you problem I didn’t know you worked with Luke Thomas at MMA fighting in fact you guys did

some videos together through the years so here’s my question which unintentionally funny Luke Thomas

character Quirk is your favorite to laugh at I don’t know if it’s a character Quirk

but I’m not sure people recognize that Luke is just a gigantic person and it it

just thrown me off every time I have been around like Bigfoot Silva level giganticism or what

I mean not like maybe not that big but like just just a very large individual

and so like you’re like you’re a young you know whatever I was a 27 year old

kid or whatever going to meet the MMA fighting team and like uh Luke Thomas who I’ve watched for years and all this

stuff and like everybody else like Ariel helwani’s like a little taller than than average or whatever but then you’re just

getting you’re like Luke looks like three people stacked on top of each other and it’s just very off setting

given because the rest of the time you see his face in one of these boxes and it’s like oh and so that feels to me

that his General hatred for the South also was was wonderful for us on our

first first meeting as I’m extremely Southern as you can figure out by this point and he’s like yeah I know Georgia

I’m from Georgia I hated Georgia went to high school there was [ __ ] um he made fun of me for using the word

Yonder once um and just his General General dislike

of the South is also quite amusing at times I mean he just likes the north too to be fair he really only likes

Washington DC he’s disowned his home nation of India I mean he’s really just yeah yeah

all right I’ve I’ve never been to India so I can’t say whether that’s a good or a bad choice for them DC is lovely to

his his credit it is I actually I I finally was able to visit it at length on vacation with my family last year and

yeah and then we’ve covered a geronti Davis fight there earlier this year it’s it’s what it’s wonderful I love it oh my

my favorite slash hate Luke character Quirk is um I don’t know if you know this about him but on the road he orders

10 sometimes three full meals at once Waits an hour for it to get cold because

quote that’s the way I like it and then we’ll pick at like one of the meals and

then throw all three away what all the time he does this all the time kind of meals like is he eating

cold fries yes yes like he’ll get he’ll get like an actual psychopath move like

that’s serial killer [ __ ] now people know I love Luke but I’m not afraid to call out his missteps publicly and and but uh yeah that’s a that’s a big one

okay like cold pizza we can okay cold pizzas all right cold french fries you’re you no unacceptable yeah it’s not

socially acceptable behavior that doesn’t reheat it’s worse than fish I mean come on you know yeah it’s wow

that’s real I’m I’m sad to know that now um less of Luke so I had a good time in

Quebec uh by the way I drove through the the towns where my great grandparents were from people forget Jed that I’m 50

French Canadian people forget that often because they think I joke about my nationality but I was shocked at how

much I felt like At Home in Quebec like I felt like I’m shocked that you’re French Canadian even with the language

barrier I felt like people liked me they welcomed me I felt like I belonged until I I had like this mild case of food

poisoning and all the sugar and sauces basically turned me into a black liver piece of crap the first four days I was

like this is where I belong do you think I should challenge Ariel to

like a Quebec off in almost the Reverse Racism DDP Izzy type thing whereas he’s like do the 28 and me thing who’s the

real Mr Quebec I’m willing to do that I’m not going to do the Shmo challenge to a basketball game thing although I

think I could house Ariel there but do you think I could I could be the real Mr Quebec through this well look look I’m

sure I’m sure the Quebec is not it’s not a monolith right you’ve you’ve got Montreal and the city Folk and and the

sort of you know higher end people who can you know talk to talk to other

people and engage with them socially and you know I’ve watched letter Kenny I know about the the Canadian Roughnecks

and just dudes out there being being real Low Low Bottom like you so it’s

just different kinds of Quebec I don’t know I don’t know enough to know who would win in in a Quebec off but until

you’re rocking like an expo hat you’re probably at least the underdog I’m not gonna do that I’m not gonna do that

remember when Ariel forgot he was a Knicks fan when the Raptors won the championship and he was like parading around on there you know I remember

Ariel I remember that though but shout out to Ariel just the same uh let’s close with this uh Jed it’s your debut

here so you gotta you gotta sit in and do the Luke thing uh what I did when I got home from vacation last night from

visiting the beautiful lauritian mountains I think you pronounced that there outside of Montreal and Quebec I

scoured the globe Jed to find the highs and lows the good the bad the ugly and the in-between and Combat Sports some

people call this BC species I call this have you seen this [ __ ]

most exciting part oh God [Music]

let’s see if you saw any of this [ __ ] number one here’s where we start bkfc in

Albuquerque no I’m not going to show you videos of some famous tick tocker that my kids got all excited about getting

into a fight what’s that guy’s name by the way uh Bryce Hall it was trash all right it’s absolutely trash I’m here I had to

watch it I’m here to celebrate this man John Dodson who captured the inaugural

bkfc featherweight Championship with a first round TKO of J.R Ridge Jed from

the very beginning Dodson looks like he belongs in this decrepit sport dude he found it like I’m so happy for

John Dodson because he was so much fun in MMA like he came the closest to

beating DJ uh sort of at the peak of DJ’s Powers no no come on that was uh that was uh didn’t McCall fight him

through like a split decision oh I guess it’s true but uh that they went to they should have gone to a draw

um but yeah I mean Dodson dropped DJ several times like he’s he’s just always been an electric really fun fighter and

this seems to match up super well for his skill set that fight was kind of garbage he should have won like way

earlier than he did the the referees stopped it because he pushed the Dude down but he didn’t really push him down

it sort of just happened after he punched him in the eye and then homie got like five minutes to recover from

being punched in the eye which is legal it was a super weird thing and then it didn’t matter because John Dodson rules

so super happy for him him versus John lineker and bare knuckle uh would would

be my Nirvana and like just be the best thing that’s ever happened in Combat Sports but until then I’m happy to just

keep watching him do this because it it rules yeah he has embraced it and he’s got quick hands and he gets after it man

it’s really it’s it’s fun to see him just like Mike Perry who just re-signed by the way with bkfc they sent out a

press release probably to life-changing money once again it’s good to see people because there’s a lot of people that use

bkfc as the last stop on the combat Highway and that’s when it gets really sad these are people who are thriving

they’re thriving here I’m down with that you know the same thing with Lorenzo uh what’s it guys there’s been a few of

these Lorenzo Hunt is that what I’m talking about there’s been a few of these guys who have found Hector Lombard said some big ones what we needed and

what I’m the saddest thing that’s happened in MMA this month is that Derrick Lewis resigned with the UFC

because Derek Lewis and bkfc was all I ever wanted in my life and I know you would have loved that too

BC like who who didn’t want to see that and now we’ll never get it and that’s a shame uh speaking of Dodson talk about

this celebratory uh celebratory backflip and dance after getting the win it was good to see him so happy look at that

athleticism right there he’s like a human Emoji a magician yeah man is him

and Andre olowsky’s like deep and abiding friendship back in the day it was awesome because they’re just the

most different human beings possible both physically and emotionally he’s great like I love John Dodson I’m very

happy for everything that went down this past weekend I’m sure you remember when Mike Goldberg famously said so you want

to be an ultimate fighter Jed so you want to be a bkfc fighter here’s how it

usually looks for people oh no not oh yeah straight up if you told me BC like

out of context if you just told me that that is the villain like not the big bad villain but like the mid-tier villain

for some like new horror franchise I would buy like if you blocked out the people behind in the box and it was like

yeah that’s just that’s the person who’s doing a cannibalism in the woods or whatever on on this group of sidetracked

hikers yeah remember the landlord and Kingpin who did that gross thing had given me those vibes but if anybody

would have dated you with that rat tail

awkward pause awkward pause no awkward hard no a hard pass let’s keep it going

UFC Vegas from the Apex bantamweight Demond black sheer made his UFC debut and became the third person in company

history to lock up a twister sub here on Jose Johnson your thoughts

blisters are always weird because I feel like they shouldn’t happen um this one was cool and like it felt

natural um good for Devon Blackshear right and dude dude was fighting it the whole way

and trying really hard uh that just looks like it sucks so hard BC I’ve never been putting a twister nah I don’t

ever want to be put in a twister I mean I’ve consensually been in a few of these positions but you know that’s another

story right there hey you know who’s making noise in on the UFC undercards lately debuting females from Brazil

we’ve seen some big wins how about Luana Santos getting in here against Juliana Killer Miller and needing just a couple

minutes to absolutely I mean I don’t know if we have highlights of the actual uh punches thrown or just the

celebration I don’t know if you saw this I’m a big Killer Miller fan she’s got spunk she’s got Charisma but these are

two straight devastating defeats this one didn’t last long yeah she is really good at getting

knocked out um like the the uh because she’s like long and rangey and she doesn’t like

cover up and do the [ __ ] like she’s just gonna fire him back and the whole time she’s out there throwing punches

fecklessly absolutely uselessly just trying to return fire and getting lit up so it

makes this really gorgeous finishing combo from Santos and I feel really bad for Juliana she won tough BC she did an

Ultimate Fighter winner and they are having her get gassed on the curtain jerker of the worst card of the year

like man when in Tuffy what it used to be no she’s got she’s lost three of her last four overall including that loss to

a comebacking Veronica Hardy last time and uh we didn’t have I sent the wrong video in but she got pieced up to end it

right there uh somebody else got pieced up JP Bays it was bantamweight Marcus the maniac McGee face first there one

one punch Thriller here in round one nice I love love the walk-off and the

the gentlemanly walk off of this dude fell down and I don’t even like I could I could I could Hammer him out I don’t

know if we’re gonna have uh Khalil realm trees finish coming up here later no we won’t

little Roundtree did not take this very gym this step back that the McGee did

here so good for him JP Biz has been getting God a lot yeah he’s doing the extra brain damage JP bass improves to

0-4 in the UFC he’s not going to be the first uh real African Champion although

he’s from South Africa but is this loss more hurtful than Roman delizae and

Cheyenne Bays uh philismus I mean it’s pretty bad yeah it’s pretty

bad I don’t know I mean she fled the country to get out of their marriage I don’t know I’m not speaking of other people’s businesses okay but it’s a

tough break for Jay pretty bad yeah he’s having a rough go with things he is hey baby on the way though for Cheyenne you

know silver lining in every oh I guess PC way to be positive uh let’s go to Omaha hey

Terence Crawford came for the Victory Parade the city showed out but the

biggest highlight for me as as Terence drove around with a friend of his program Shakur Stevenson was Terence

showing up in the fisherman’s outfit with the giant dude he is leaning into this big fish thing so hilariously I

don’t know if you saw him on like national news shows he’s making the rounds all over dude this was awesome to

see I mean what an outfit I have not seen this [ __ ] just what a Vibe Terence

Crawford living his best life right now is it’s just so much fun to watch like

there’s not a dude who deserves it more and he now gets to just do this like yeah and hell if I had that physique I

would I would always wear an open vest I would never be wearing clothes just just the open vest let it all font you know

let everybody know dude I love that fish in that thing I mean that is just you know as I said the

probably the probably the greatest boxing Victory involving fishnet since oscar but I don’t know if you can call

that a win indeed um let’s keep it going here wow that was a real reach PC we’re

around in fact actually uh let’s go over to this Everton your food of the week Jed Everton FC over there in Liverpool

is now selling the Rocco sifredi dog your thoughts yeah look at that look at

the unit on that guy wow yeah so that’s so much better than I thought it was gonna be because all of the like food

things are always terrible uh they’re like you expected yeah yeah yeah I that’s that is a lot of meat to bun

ratio right there that is that is that is interesting right there how do you eat that in a group of of your male

friends without getting made fun of you don’t I don’t think you can do you

know I hold I still hold the Yankee Stadium record for having consumed eight consecutive hot dogs at the stand

outside before entering a 2001 Royals Yankees game in which I sat in the extreme upper deck and grossed out the

four women that were part of my party that record will not be broken eight dogs it’s so many times while

waiting in line I I I emptied my pockets of cash and consumed eight consecutive and there’s people that still talk about

that okay it was incredible about that I have recently there’s like a tick tock

thing that goes around um like the Woody rathers or whatever I’ve recently had a debate with my

friends about would you rather uh like live your life normally or get a million

dollars a year but you have to eat six hot dogs every day and apparently that’s just a Tuesday for UPC it used to be it

used to be until I got found the black liver hey let’s go to Target Center of Minneapolis it was the Zach Bryan

concert guess who showed up to sing it’s Brock Lesnar oh my God

[Music]

[Applause] [Music] okay

represent Court not Bud Light represent cores and then you think after this is gonna

go home

I love everything Brock Lesnar does like he can even what he did to Mark like he

can’t do wrong in my eyes he’s he is he’s my favorite he’s my favorite person not I I don’t have that sort of

connection to him but he makes me laugh because if if Brock Lesnar got off the

couch tomorrow he’s still beating the hell out of like half of the top 15 heavyweights probably probably man dude

do you think he would win the award for most Juiced UFC fight ever like does he

did he have the most juice in him of any fighter ever for a fight at UFC 200. no

because he is also just an athletic freak so his juicing was I feel largely

supplemental like he just you know wanted to get a little bit of extra dude go back what what was Mark Kerr and Mark

Coleman we were going through their Vans at the peak of the like early

rest in peace Kevin Randleman like yeah dude there’s no chance he is he pissed

the hottest of Hots because if you could go back in time so much uh indeed hey football jersey of

the week time let’s go out to the field here Jed do you have this one in your closet

go Hokies bro what an incredible Virginia Tech

that’s honestly a great Jersey yeah props to that dude um I would not wear

that in public personally would you rather wear that in public or the side of Frank Beamer’s face

I could give me the Jersey give me the Jersey let’s keep it going here I gotta get out of here friend of the program

Giovanni Marquez the son of showtimes Raul Mark as just 22 improved a 6-0 with

this KO on Saturday at overtime boxing in Atlanta check out this finish

if I could have gone to this yeah you should have been there dude I didn’t know this was happening

um where’s the finish I’m waiting on the phone ah they stopped it on the feet there but Geo came in ripped there’s

Raul getting in the ring there’s proud papa right there 6-0 the 22 year old Geo let’s continue to match him up the ranks

and there’s the victory dance you done with that dancer I mean I I couldn’t do it that looks like something for the

children um I’m I’m past that I would blow out a knee trying to do that at this point uh

I’d blow out everything if I was this guy let’s go out to the dirt bike trail this is why I don’t roller skate this is why I don’t ski this right here oh boy

[Music]

and it’s a double whammy because the first hit and then it just yeah all yeah

yeah all right all of the all of the dirt biking ones are always awful no

dirt biking accident has ever been kind to the person who happened graffiti of the week time let’s go out to the

Elevator Shaft and judge speaking of shaft

that’s so dumb and so good all right keep it going your Regional MMA KO of

the week incredible Chad I don’t know if you know about Regional MMA but anything can happen let’s go to your stoppage of

the week oh boy oh holy took his soul took his

soul right there damn yeah that’s one of the most aesthetically pleasing Knockouts I’ve actually ever seen in

Combat Sports that is incredible who is that do we know who did that we don’t know they threw a pillow in the cage I’m

being told by geff uh yeah he needs it that means that means no doubt uh Jed I don’t know if you know

this but we got a power Slap mobile video game let’s check the video tape on this you can IOS this [ __ ] anytime

you want oh wow that’s great I’m not gonna play it because why would I what possible

game mechanics can be fun here like I don’t uh Carnage maybe senseless

violence without defense but I don’t know if you know the thing I at least would get watching like if you’re just

or into senseless Carnage okay watch watch powerslap like more power to you why would I want to play a mobile game

where I’m just gonna tap this button this one button because it’s not like there there’s a combination of buttons to it I don’t get it yeah indeed well

Dana who often tells us how big powerslap is in India would like you to know that this is the biggest video game

in the world let’s listen in we launched our video game uh mobile app

video game we’re number one in all of sports we’re number four in all the video games

so when you look at the power that that game is gonna have too on the athletes

and in recruiting and getting new people to come in the video games we’re number one in all

of sports we launched it today we’re number four in all of video games we’re beating like FIFA and uh Call of Duty

and games like that so they say don’t believe everything Dana

says bloody elbows Antoine Anton labuena did the research shortly after Dana said

this and it turns out quick fact check slap did not beat Call of Duty which was top five on all free games it’s not even

in the top 200 and in sports it didn’t beat FIFA which was number nine and it’s

not number one slap at the time of this on August 10th was currently number 111

shortly after Dana made those comments so you know Jed powerslap social media

is bigger than every sport combined but you can’t believe everything Dana

tells you and finally to close maybe I’m wrong and I love this guy but

Jed is Mike Perry taking this two percent black thing too far

[Laughter] guy looks like see Thomas Howell and soul man right now but uh luckily what

we’re celebrating here is the greatest Bromance of all time him and you all Romero coming out of the Dead Sea so let

me see it I mean that’s really cool uh I would love to go to the Dead Sea uh and I’ll

just love to hang out with you over Romero that would just be electric be a fly on the wall with these two growing

out with despite the language barrier can you imagine the conversations he’s so good Yol in his

semi-broken English and Mike Perry in his semi-brokening

I just can’t even imagine what these two dudes are talking about it would be the best I would love that more than almost

anything else that’s the [ __ ] of the week I gotta bounce so why don’t I tell

you this thank you Jed michoud II for jumping in today in this MK slot Luke

Thomas on vacation throughout the rest of the week we’ll have plenty of special guests but yet it was a it was a tremendously fun debut here I had a

great time thanks for having me guys and um let me know whenever the fighters only awards are going if I’ll sit at the

table with y’all we can all you know MK family go together and win is it back to back to back best best MMA programming

is this this will be the third if we win our fans have to get out there and vote if they want to but I’ll shout out below

the links when I’m up there because that show’s great even if I don’t know the name of it okay you do one of these years one of these years

huge Mike between the links they’re correcting me there in the in the live between Long Island thank you between

the links starring Mike Heck and the incomparable voice of esterlin and E Casey lighted on the production there

Jed michoud thank you thank you to the listeners for tuning in uh be back this week to set the stage for Boston of

course UFC pay-per-view this weekend and so much more Jed we already showed your social handles below anything you want

to plug on the way out and just to remind you I’m married oh well I would have loved to plug you

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but uh we got it done we gotta we don’t what would you say about the Combat Sports slate of fights I would call it

um not premium but definitely not garbage I don’t think that’s fair right heavyweight championship of the world

they’ll be at stake unboxing on Saturday not garbage not garbage yeah I mean you know okay but also Mike Tyson saying

some wild ass [ __ ] we’ll talk about that speaking of wild that [ __ ] I’m on like day nine of diarrhea this is great

man this show has turned to [ __ ] indeed Luke I wear this uh T-shirt with purpose

I do want to shout out the uh the untimely passing that’s age 36 of uh Windham rotunda AKA Bray Wyatt a a

legend when it comes to character development and storytelling in his WWE

run and you know a third generation Superstar the the son of IRS mic rotunda

the grandson of Hall of Famer Blackjack Mulligan the nephew of Barry and window or Kendall Windham um this one hurt Luke

I don’t tend to follow the the wrestling space day to day but I don’t know if you’ve had any exposure of the great

Bray Wyatt who it’s looking like the reports say had a uh basically a heart attack that was fueled by a covet heart

issue but man this one was tough to take wrestlers die young Luke that’s what they do this one was tough though did it

hit you at all no I mean I didn’t I don’t know who he is but I I have the you know it’s hard to explain this like

I all the people that I know that really like pro wrestling really liked that guy

if that makes sense because he’s the only name that kept kind of circulating Bray Wyatt Bray Wyatt Bray Wyatt in

either in conversation or on social media but you know what are you gonna say 30 was it 36 years old 37 years old

whatever it was dude that’s just an insanely insanely uh untimely really

quite tragic and um I did see this also didn’t Terry Funk who was sort of like a

legend of the of the game great pool he died this week too yeah I mean like a bad week for pro wrestling unfortunately

I mean hey I mean you could do a whole show on the legend of Terry Funk in so many ways a great actor too people that

never brought that up a lot but uh hate to see that but how about a good call out Luke today the 16th wedding

anniversary of Jay and the boss lady Don Paquette so I gotta applaud that Luke because Jay

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because three weeks ago Luke how about this for Success you and I combined for nine out of 10 picks correct you going

5-0 which I think we’ve only each done once in the past I went four and one on that ass

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uh you are the champion the reigning week to week Champion you can go first or second Luke you’ve got Champions

Advantage uh UFC Singapore which will take place a reminder to folks 8 A.M

Saturday morning Eastern time the start of the main portion of this card which

we broke down in detail on Wednesday a pretty damn good card for an in-between fight night uh definitely four five six

fights worth focusing on Luke Thomas you’re going first or second here

um I’ll go second I’ll go all right first look uh for the main event we try to pick the biggest fight of the weekend

there’s two big ones so because they’re both lopsided and potentially one-sided in terms of the odds we allowed

ourselves to go either way so look I’m gonna go with the boxing we’re gonna preview in a second water this may or

may not mean but unified heavyweight champion Alexander usick is in Poland on Saturday and he’s going to welcome one

lost Rising heavyweight Daniel Dubois as the odds from our friends at Caesar stand at the moment it is minus one

thousand for USIC plus 600 for Dubois Luke I don’t think that like

necessarily explains this matchup and we have talked a lot both together and when

you were gone about boxing odds in general you remember Luke you were there at the MGM

um uh Oxen Hill Maryland card in which Gabrielle maestre of Venezuela shocked

and knocked out Trayvon Marshall when he was like a nearly 1 000 Underdog um I’m gonna go Alexander usick here for

all the reasons you expect he’s an A plus heavyweight do was not I mean that pretty much sums

it up but you know this is not a shot in the dark we’re going Main Events here I’m gonna pick who’s sick to win

okay fair enough so I’ll go to the MMA side of things again you know there’s not much of a breakdown that’s really

necessary we kind of went over UFC Singapore on Wednesday the odds by the way BC when we did Wednesday’s show Max

Holloway according to our friends at Caesars was a minus 750. he’s now moved to even minus 800 so like it’s only from

the odds perspective getting worse so listen could Korean zombie win he has a big punch and you know uh it’s always

possible but highly unlikely give me Max Holloway in my main event pick Luke this

is the last time we’ll be able to really focus on this fight one thing we missed in the build up a lot of people dm’d us and said how did you guys not talk about

this apparently this is the final fight of tkz’s career or is expected to be and

that’s why the UFC was so willing to sort of make a potentially on paper lopsided matchup yet it is two

featherweight Legends who circled kind of each other in this division for a long time but just never crossed paths

remember tkz did have the big gap of military service in the middle there um so if this is it for tkz Luke do you

think he will have a better chance than the odds and the you know sort of phantom media reaction is telling you

against a Max who against Arnold Allen still looked like he was super Elite yeah no I mean listen if it is in fact I

saw some of the headlines too that if this is his final fight let’s assume that it is right like this is going to

call it a close when do you ever get a great MMA exit like dude

yeah that’s it that’s about right okay but she went out as Champion not like a you know sort of a faded version of

herself she went out on top and that’s that’s different you know I’m talking about the people who are not Habib the

people who are not Amanda Nunes or you know even George St-Pierre uh against the Hendrix fight went on his hands and

knees a little bit even though he won controversially but you know what I’m saying dude it’s gonna be more like Frankie Edgar at the Garden than

probably anything else so you know between how good Max has looked and and everything else it’s probably going to

be sad and you know kind of kind of a bummer I don’t know I have a feeling

with it if we’re really going to play the last fight element to this that tkz is going to be willing to dial

a bit back more into the original Persona we came to know him as as the blood and guts Warrior who will

walk in with his hands down and not care Luke do you think there’s an element there where because Max is not a

decorated finisher although let’s let’s give him the respect of having knocked out Jose Aldo and consecutive title

fights um that tkz may be able to linger and turn this into the violent entertainment

we expect sure yeah I mean listen everyone’s kind of been like oh Max is going to beat the [ __ ] out of him I actually think it

could be more competitive than that uh even with the odds might say I mean yes

tkz looked real bad against volkanovsky but most people look kind of bad against

volkanovsky at least in the this version of him anyway the more recent version of him so you know what does that mean really it’s I don’t know exactly what

that’s yeah he’s not on that level and looked kind of bad but before that he gave Dan he gave some real trouble and then ige is a talented guy the problem

is that was 2021 we’re now in 2023 so you know his best win or his best most recent win was

um two years ago so like look do I think uh and Max is kind of hittable we’ve seen that before as well so listen if

Max’s chin is degraded in some kind of way at age 31 with a lot of miles it

could definitely be a lot more competitive it’s just like again dude the when Max is moving downhill on you

in a five-round fight with that pace he puts on you over seven strikes landed per minute which is exceedingly High

yeah could it be competitive and fun absolutely does tkz have a big punch no doubt about it always good for theatrics

it’s just like again hand raised or not hand raised who you picking yeah Max right yeah absolutely I think that’s

that’s a safe and good uh call let’s go over to our favorite of the week Luke I love this matchup we’ve talked about

what’s at stake here and how much we love it it could be the third best fight on the card or or second if it plays out really competitively it’s a

featherweight matchup Giga chikaze Alex Bruce Leroy caceres both have won seven

of eight in the Octagon the questions about them are a little bit different as are the expectations look for chikaze he

had won seven straight uh since entering remember he lost his Dana White Contender series fight won two fights on

the regional scene came in seven straight wins and looked to be in this same category of like who’s next at

featherweight who the hell is coming the hell on uh a position that toporia has taken over but Chicago losing that

pretty damn wide and surprisingly why why decision did Kelvin cater has reset

our expectations on the flip side you got blue Bruce Leroy who very quietly at

age 35 is is kind of starting to figure out it out minus 250 for Chicago I like

it Luke he’s the better fighter of the two he’s the more dangerous one can we try to frame that loss to to cater and

how wide it was as an aberration and then notice that it has been a long time since he’s been in there while that

certainly can fuel the questions about it meaning that he’s been gone for uh what is it uh 18 months

I kind of I gotta believe Luke he comes back strong with a bang and although I’ve liked the work of casares somewhat

quietly to sort of re-establish his name as a contender there are levels to this fight if Giga

can reset here with the time off and the frustrating loss he’s still a major player in this division at age 34 and a

hammer that is knocking on that door I I think this is a smart and safe bet give me a giga at minus 250. yeah I like that

one too I think he’s just also like who’s got the more known brutality quotient it’s Gidget

right like he’s just a bit of a hammer in that way um for my favorite pick it wasn’t you’ll

be proud of me I didn’t pick someone who was like minus 8 billion or something that I know we’re not supposed to but you know you get the idea but uh I did

pick someone who is a room service Diaries alumnus in this particular case give me Aaron blanchfield she’s sitting

at minus 160 over Tyler Santos at plus 135 again we kind of went over this one to a degree on Wednesday BC but I’m

gonna pick her because Santos as we said before really does have the better overall uh positional Jiu Jitsu and I

and I really want to highlight how important that could be in stifling someone especially in a three-round contest it could be a real big deal but

she goes to decision a lot and I still think though that on the defensive end blanchfield will be able to

um not get overwhelmed if something goes poorly and then the other moments really kind of put it on her particularly in the standing Department so we’re gonna

see it’s a big test of Aaron blanchfield but so far man she just looks better and better every single time it’s a tough

fight it’s a close fight but give me Aaron blanchfield as your favorite a minus 160 to get her hand raised in Singapore so I’m glad that it played out

that we’re making the picks on this fighting consecutive order as we slide into the underdog category Luke I’ve

talked about Ad nauseam how much I love this fight I do think that based on the

information we do have you’re a little bit more confident at the totality of blanchfield’s striking game because I do

wonder if there’s some levels even though a reminder I’m ultra high on what blanchefield is doing and the momentum

and the confidence and just the I mean she’s 24 years old and she acts like this is like playing you know pickleball

with your buddies or something yeah I’m gonna go in there and I’m gonna win the the title at 120. okay she’s destroyed

people has it been Fool’s Gold though was was andrage not you know cashing herself out and there to be stopped was

the Molly McCann win which we understand the levels and the difference there that really helped blanchfield announce

herself as someone was that a little bit of a Fool’s errand here’s what I think at the end of the day they’re going to

go the distance and it’s going going to be competitive but if I can get Tyler Santos at plus 135 or wherever the odds

landed at and she’s fresh off I get it with a gap in time but she’s fresh off that performance against Valentina

shevchenko where she nearly did what Alexa Grosso ended up doing which would Shock the World Tyler is big for the

division and I’m I’m wondering here Luke if she can neutralize the wrestling

success that blendfield has had the overwhelming dominant wrestling success and make this a striking fight over 15

minutes could Tyla Santos just be tough enough difficult enough to leave it close where look you know it may come

down to who landed more or or who was demonstratively pushing the fight forward I think this is the first time

we’re going to see some pushback against Aaron blanchfield and I think if I can get Tyler Santos at plus money giving

that size experience and probably what is a chip on her shoulder to the idea of how quickly she’s been forgotten she was

not granted the immediate rematch that she might have deserved for such a disputed outcome I know she had some issue issues with her team not being

able to get a Visa which which canceled this fight originally in February and then of course the whole drama about her may or may not have been paying her team

enough and all that I think she’s going to come in super motivated her side of the story is kind of falling a bit under

the radar in terms of how excited we are about blanchfield I would not be surprised here if Tyler Santos kind of

just equals Blanche filled out in most categories and then does enough to get her hand raised in a close competitive

hard decision where blanchfield will kind of have to reset what things do I need to just work a little bit more on

look she’s 24. she’s incredible but we’ve largely outside of that Aldrich

fight only seeing her in first gear this will be the fight she’s got to show more gears and this will be the fight I think

she gets what most people get is that early competitive loss that truly teaches them I think you cannot Overlook

Santos at plus 135 and I’m taking it all right yeah uh I’m a little surprised

by that but you know Mikey can we show the face off here as we as we talk about this fight at the moment Luke I got

fired up watching this nothing too crazy nothing too did you get fired up or horned up which one I knew that was

coming nothing too crazy here nothing too juicy good intensity from blanchfield but you see the size Luke

this is called blade Shield’s got got an exam on Saturday a very difficult one yeah I like the way you put that because

Also Mikey one more time roll it and just watch the very beginning as they as

they face off here not a huge difference in size but the

person and I’ll double check this it looks to me like the person with the longer limbs is actually Tyler Santos

which is going to Aid in her particular skill Department right which is Jiu Jitsu like she’s going to be able to do

sort of body triangles and whatnot so if you look at the dimensions yeah she’s got a two inch reach advantage and we

don’t have the leg reach or anything like that but I’m going to guess that that’s more substantial as well that’s only going to Aid her that can Aid you

on if you do inside tripping if you do outside tripping a double to an outside trip body triangles any kind of uh guard

work obviously any kind of uh lengthy appendage like that from your arms and

your legs if you know how to use it and we have clear evidence that she does it can really age you so I like the way you

put that it’s an exam I just feel like it’s one Aaron Blanchard’s gonna pass but you are right to say that she’s a real threat before I throw it over to

your Underdog pick uh Mikey put out a poll in our live chat so hopefully everybody was able to swim aside from

the misogyny racism and dead bodies from the Titanic that are still floating in there Luke and they the poll was who’s a

better lock to win on Saturday from our main event picks is it Max Holloway against tkz or Alexander usick against

Daniel Dubois 60 say Max is a better lock at the moment Luke will you trust

those folks yeah I think that’s about right sure okay uh I can’t believe you you passed on

this as a Connecticut guy but you know you also don’t listen to apathy so your Connecticut credentials are certainly in

question but I will say for the underdog give me Parker Porter over Justin tafa

now listen I don’t have a strong inclination about it and to be clear like listen to the to the odds our friends at Caesars have this contest

Parker Porter at a plus 125 just in top of minus 150. it’s a close fight it’s a close fight it could go a million

different ways but I gotta tell you BC Parker Porter 148 has a lot more experience he’s now he’s a lot older

he’s 38 years of age but his last contest against Braxton Smith who yes was very much overmatched and he did

lose to Justin tough I’m just sort of pointing out you know the guy has made some improvements he has lost a bunch of

weight it has made him more mobile it’s a heavyweight contest if taffa gets way too out in front of himself a guy

like Parker Porter does have enough skills to make him pay and hey [ __ ] it why not the guy’s from Connecticut let’s throw a couple of shekels his way in

terms of the betting give me Parker Porter has an upset I’ll take it that’s what scared me in picking him either way

because he’s a Connecticut guy and I got to stop making emotional pics about women in the UFC I like and people I’m

I’m down with Luke so I avoided that completely but never forget that Parker Parker Posey here fought uh Jon Jones in

his third Pro fight in 2008 outside of the UFC like that’s the most wild and ridiculous random early resume stat that

I remember in a while look outside of maybe that um uh what’s his name that Forest Griffin fought you know Dan

Severn who fought like 300 consecutive fights in the state of Michigan probably

still fighting look probably still fighting right now as we speak to somewhere in a stuck East parking lot yeah yeah him and Jeremy Horn just

adding to their respective records every other hour but uh yeah there you go right there that’ll be interesting to see it comes down to whether Parker Port

is in shape he was in shape last fight he seemed to be a different fighter even at this late age but uh here we go the

tour of taffa let’s hope uh I mean I really you know I’m already regretting the pick I mean I’m picking a you know

Connecticut white guy over you know a Polynesian uh Pacific Islander that’s

probably like a real bad bet but [ __ ] it I’m locked in sorry the difference is between you and me is I want you to be

at a jam band show Luke that’s the difference between you and me I think right now uh I’ll go over to the

category of over under will it Go the Distance yeah Luke I did take the easy way out here I was waiting for you to

use your Championship Championship advantage and stop me but Aldrich versus nah on the preliminary card of the UFC

of course uh JJ Aldrich against Liang na women’s flyweight bout it doesn’t matter in this case who wins Luke statistically

are they going to go the distance probably Aldrich does not have a stoppage win in the UFC she’s been

submitted a couple times though um that’s this is safe and and you let me have it this is me standing on the

the other side of the Court allowing my team to play four on five in pickup ball hoping the team misses so they can throw

me a full court cherry picker Luke you talked a gang of [ __ ]

about how I was you know just absolutely welfare cleaning the system just I I

mean just abusing and using it and then all of a sudden you realize wait there’s a meth if you can’t beat them join them

the Brian Campbell story huh if you can’t beat them off Luke then just subscribe to their only fans that’s how

I live my life you know what I mean I told you when I was in a fraternity we did a we did a uh we did a uh an event

with a sorority like some kind of I don’t know what the philanthropy was and we made shirts that they didn’t know about but then they had to wear that

this is awful I was 20 years old what are you gonna do actually I wasn’t even in charge of this but I did wear the shirt uh if you can’t beat us on the

field beat us off was really the name oh wow wow yeah that’s great if it looks

like the Glory Days of misogyny yes that’s great I know I look back at my time from like 20 like I’m not even that

anything I did up to the age of 25 and I’m like Jesus I was really stupid and awful this is uh I’ve learned a lot

since then I’ll say that thank you thank you for that growth and evolution all right from for my uh does It Go the

Distance or not I am gonna say give me Smith versus span the rematch

will not go the distance so the first one didn’t even get out of the first round now of course I might be jinxing

myself and they could take a much more different approach and be calculated and it kind of sucks and whoever I don’t

know I just don’t buy that I don’t I don’t really buy that sometimes you know Smith I think is long on the truth and I don’t know if his body’s gonna hold up

that’s sort of one thing to pay attention to span I do think is just his best chance of winning is is trying to

move on downhill on a guy trying to Corral him which just creates for better action I mean yes I I certainly see a

case where a more considered approach would lead to a decision in this one but

you know I had to pick one that you didn’t and so in that case give me Smith versus span not going the distance all

right so I got a chair for uh span to have the offensive wrestling success of

a home Invader so this becomes a stalemate Loop that goes the distance here I’m cheering outright for Anthony Smith just so you know okay I’m cheering

outright for a guy that I read I mean you’re saying that you’re cheering out I am I don’t know if you’re actually cheering out right I am cheering for or

factory town mma’s finest Anthony Smith thank you uh KO or sub Luke I’m gonna go

back to Connecticut here I feel this is a safer way to play this Parker Porter on the tour of taffa against Justin

taffa I don’t know who’s gonna land the big one Luke uh the odds might favor tafa in that regard let me see what are

the odds on oh the official odds on this fight tougha minus 150 favorite plus 125

for Parker Porter somebody’s gonna get ko’d in a heavyweight fight including

one or two fat guys like yeah this is the odds right I’m gonna go under on this the chaos um I I don’t have a great

pick on this one because of all the ways we had to kind of work around stuff because it’s not a great car there’s a lot of names on here that are you know

barely hanging on to a UFC uh contract at this point so give me

toshiomi Excuse me toshiomi Kazama taking on Garrett Armfield this is a bantamweight contest because I’m uh

sitting here at uh 26 years of age has a fair amount of finishes on his win in

fact if you go through his days in pan craze he lost his opening bout via decision after that wins via stoppage

wins via stoppage wins via stoppage and a lot of these ground of pound heel hook arm lock arm lock and it goes on and on

from there BC Garrett Armfield joins us here at 26 years of age he lost his opening UFC bout um to David

onama via arm triangle but he has some weird naked jokes up and down here as well uh so give me the fight in this

particular case give me the kazami versus Armfield about ending via sub could be totally [ __ ] off on this one

you actually might take the lead with your picks here if I’m being candid with you but we are where we are thank you thank you for being candid uh so I’m

three wins back but you do have two more uh three more ties than I do so I wonder

I’m about three and a half games back right I I know I already showed you my SAT math skills my point is can I take

over the lead this week if you have a disastrous outcome yes I can Luke so I’m

coming I think You Hear Me Knocking Luke I think I’m coming in I got hippies and and Weirdos and I got hopefully a jam

band show or or something awesome there okay I can’t wait I’m gonna take enough Edibles to overdose I want to be clear

about that and speaking of jam bands and Edibles uh a happy and amazing 59th

birthday Forever Young to uh MK Super Fan otil Burbridge Luke of dead and Company

Fame who’s out with his oh teal and Friends tour right now getting rave reviews and has a new record coming out

Luke of Jerry Garcia Robert Hunter uh dead era collection covers uh hashtag

let otil sing by the way does a beautiful china doll just makes me want to tear up but uh shout out to otil we

got nothing but good news today Luke okay it’s a good news bro program I’m going to see Pantera in two weeks how about that all right is it where what

location DC uh well it’s they say Washington DC [ __ ] it ain’t it’s

way out in Virginia it’s a place called Jiffy Lube Pavilion oh that sounds so

redneck yeah that’s crazy oh it’s super [ __ ] redneck it’s the most redneck uh place on Earth anyway

um but you know I did the number where like it’s one of these places where if you don’t leave your concert early you’re going to be stuck in traffic

trying to get out forever yeah so I paid more for parking passes than I did for tickets and I bought good tickets all

right that’s a little late I get it strategic I get why but that’s a little bit old man like I’m gonna scam the

system I’m gonna I mean dude my wife my wife we obviously we just went on vacation and she’s like you know I don’t

understand people who stand up when the plane lands and I’m like right you don’t understand that I grew up in an insanely

chaotic environment and it has [ __ ] up my brain to the point where I get anxiety if I don’t stand up I get

anxiety if I don’t crowd the gate before we board I’m trying to that’s true like anxiety that one time one of my biggest

pet peeves of you is when we were on that same flight that time and they announced we will be boarding shortly which to me means oh I got 25 minutes to

go to the bathroom get more food like whatever and you’re like BC they just called we got to get up right now we gotta get in line we gotta go and I’m

just like don’t be that guy yeah I’m that guy and I don’t and I want to be clear like I’m not saying it’s the best approach I’m just saying I can’t quiet

the people who are telling me the world’s gonna end if I don’t do those things so you see what I’m saying look

we are all in this together and we are here for you and we love you yeah don’t don’t

um don’t do the things my parents did because then you end up with me is really the answer here I’m a big fan of

Rob Thomas Luke I would never push him they did some good things but I’ve got so much anxiety bro that I have to pay a

shitload of money for a parking pass so I can get out on time I really what it is what it is

um are you an instant change the channel if um that song uh that Rob Thomas did

with Santana comes on that cannot leave your brain once it once it infests it um because you’re so smooth you know

that song I don’t love it or hate it I don’t love it or hate it you know what I don’t like is the other one he did

um the I like the guitar riff but I don’t like the song it’s like it reminds me of a West Side Story oh yeah yeah

yeah growing up in Spanish Harlem yeah um the rip is sick

[Music] that one that’s cool but like I’m not a Santana guy dude Santana rules I I went

back and bought the entire 70s collection look there’s there’s not a dud even the bad ones are great you know I mean I’m in love I’m loving this

anyway Luke no one can you don’t care about that no no and also our audience doesn’t know who Santana is let’s be clear about this yeah yeah yeah okay uh

okay Bet in the books but before we get into our five topics this week Luke we got some tremendous excuse me bonus

content available at youtube.com morningcombat not just my chat with

Junior dos Santos talking Francis aganu usada old balls a lot of

stuff ahead of his bare knuckle September 8th rematch with Fabricio ver Doom look you had a hell of a sit down

with Chito Vera uh before we throw to the clip to tease it uh how was it she

told bear wrong I mean Uncle Gringo

yeah yeah all that stuff look how good was it how was it tell me please Tito was great he

had just shaved so he was like in a good mood you know and um we talked tattoos I don’t know if Folk’s been paying

attention we didn’t talk a whole lot about it but there was a political assassination in Ecuador and uh for

folks who aren’t like like uh attuned to it dude Ecuador’s experiencing violence like Colombia did in the 90s like it’s

it’s really really really bad so we talked about that because he was making a point like I’m here in the States but

like my mom my dad my cousins everyone they’re all still back in Ecuador it’s a really really really bad time and

Ecuador but beyond that um you know it’s I love talking to Chino because he already fought Sean

O’Malley’s and he fought other like really decorated punchers like John lineker and we kind of know the

differences between O’Malley and lineaker but I got him to explain like when you’re up against a guy like O’Malley who does have good power but

it’s different kind of power than a guy like lineker how do you explain how you navigated that what are the differences and he went into all of that plus BC to

set this all up we played a game of rate that attack hell yeah

let’s see this [ __ ] Mikey we’re gonna show you some tattoos and you just give us your honest opinion I’m like you I’m

a bold we’ll hold kind of guy you know what I mean like I like American traditional I like Japanese tattooing

but we’re going to show you some UFC fighters tattoos you just give me the chitovera opinion how’s that sound all

right here we go all right let me pull up my list here we’re gonna get going uh first one up we’ve got Alan Belcher

let’s throw this one up here what do you think of this one Cheeto ah that wasn’t really shitty to do that’s a zero over

ten all right very good uh next is Darren Elkins the damage on the chest there

yeah he’s joining my man uh Belcher right there that I mean he’s fighting

his cell he’s teaching his face and he wouldn’t [ __ ] with the with the with those metal that yeah that’s bad that’s

not good it’s not my favorite either okay a couple more of these Austin vanderford he fights in Bellator what

about what do you think about the throat tap there uh the eyeball yeah that’s that’s really Cody diamond

right there I mean Cody pulled it up first so yeah you don’t want to be sick on those type of it’s well done that

it’s a better looking traditional one not yeah I agree I think it’s a Well Done tattoo I just wouldn’t want it if

that makes sense yeah like too much color maybe I mean it says the guy with a lot of color but yeah

dude he didn’t hesitate to urinal cake his peers Luke not even a yeah no I try

to be like you know a little bit like political about it like well it’s not for me cheeto’s like yo that [ __ ] sucks

bro but God bless him I gotta get him out of have you seen this [ __ ] one day Luke because he would be brilliant he

was just like yeah that does a shitty tattoo zero of ten yes great thank you very much all right Luke uh people can

check that out morning combat or youtube.com morningcombat uh very interested in watching the full length

available now let’s transition into our five topics and Luke we let’s let’s let’s be honest we were supposed to

preview the pfl playoffs on Wednesday and we kind of ran out of time and didn’t get to it it was a card worthy of

uh of mention and the way it played out in the theater in Madison Square Garden for a few of the Marquee fights uh this

was worth your time this was a great story coming out of the main event but maybe an even better fight the

lightweight semi-finals met Shane Burgos against Clay Collard and Luke there were

a lot of story lines coming in because of the controversial slash questionable way

that Burgos even made the playoffs from the Natan Schultz situation

then they left around and put on a three-round classic first and foremost straight up Luke is this the best fight

in smart cage history I think that it is and I think that it is by a considerable margin this is to

me the best fight in pfl history now I’ve not seen every fight in pfl history but for a lot of the folks who have

they’re they’re also saying this as well and if you guys missed it and you’re an ESPN plus subscriber you can just go get

it um on the on the platform there and you can re-watch it it was absolutely

fantastic it was a shame that it was only three rounds I wish it could have been five and BC I really want to say

something about this first of all Collard you can tell how much work he’s done in boxing and how much it has

changed his game the body work the rib roasting from him you can see here on some of these highlights truly

exceptional really really good stuff it gave Burgos problems and that left hook I mean sat him down by the way it was a

calf kick right before that left hook that it actually knocked Collard off of his feet so it was back and forth salted

assaulted the inside of the left leg there of Collard to like maybe you’re

going to be limping when you’re 60 levels like he he beat the [ __ ] out of it Luke he beat the [ __ ] of him but I really want to say something about this fight like it was there’s been some

great finishes that obviously this fight didn’t have when it went to a decision so you know you might have a different fight or a different fighter in pfl that

as a fan you care about if you’re watching out there fair enough but what I think really stood out to me BC and I’m being serious about this a lot of

times when the people puts on a show because they have not really sort of created I think a dynamic fan base yet

for themselves I think you know signing Jake Paul and and uh signing a little bit of the female boxers that they’ve

signed and signing Francis I think will potentially move the needle in the other direction a conversation for a different time but what they did really well this

time was they had a crowd decidedly behind Shane Burgos at least one of the fighters in the cage and when you watch

this fight it wasn’t just that the guys were back and forth which they were it was great super great but on top of it

dude the crowd was really into it they were at the theater at Madison Square

Garden I believe oh my God God man I’ve never heard a pfl crowd make a fight

better in the way that this crowd did you know a lot of times we talk about

like the pandemic fights and you know how much you missed the crowd and the crowd Roars when there’s action but it was more than that dude they were a part

of this fight in a way that you just don’t typically get from The pfl Experience both guys not even trying to

go for takedowns everyone did their part it was and you know the matchmaking here

this was the fight that Shane Burgos was not supposed to be in it was supposed to be the Natan Schultz fight where he was

able to go ahead and the whole thing we we discussed that previously so the right guy won in the sense that the

person who had meaningfully won the whole way through and correctly one ends up getting their hand raised but nevertheless the matchmaking here worked

out well for them I think we can say that the crowd did their part everything about this just worked more of this pfl

please I want to stay on that so just for the record clay Collard wins Ace got to be surprising unanimous decision 2928

and all three cards we’ll get to him in a minute because his story has been incredible but Luke I’ve kind of

outright took a big Doogie in the middle of the star smart cage like the last four episodes and I do think rightfully

so with everything from the show controversy to the fact that like everything positive about pfl this year

has been about building toward next year which is putting a Target on them and a lot of pressure let’s see if they can deliver but I thought this year suffered

with all the usada incidents and all that um or the drug popping incidents that led to them seeking out usada

but not only did this fight deliver I I really I focused much longer on this uh broadcast than I normally do I really

enjoyed the broadcast so Dan Hardy into their friend of the program we loved him on our London live show earlier this

year I thought he was tremendous especially I like him as an interviewer there but I think you know I’ve always

loved Randy Couture and um the packages that they showed along with the use of

both Brett okamoto and um Ian Parker the the betting expert I thought they were very smart usages of them it just it was

a very strong broadcast maybe it helped that the fights turned out to be very good but Luke now this brings back in uh

clay Collard that feature that they showed before the main event so I didn’t realize Collard who like his story is

just so incredible already of going from journeyman to like somebody who’s now

going to be fighting for a million dollars and floating between two sports and being the the really the top ranked

star of the boxing you know covid bubble um they showed that he had already lost

a brother and then his hero his best friend in the world his older brother just just died in a drowning and it was

Clay who rescued him but rescued him too late I mean you know that’s gut-wrenching but as Clay’s wife talked

about all that did was lead clay directly back to the gym with a focus that she had never seen before and to

see clay Collard essentially kind of square up and just go into the phone booth against a decorated UFC action

star and pull off another one and now he’s on the verge of fighting for one

million dollars that’s an incredible story and I really thought the pfl told it perfectly where look it hasn’t been

the best year for them but they’re rallying here in the playoffs this was a good ass card Luke this clay Collard story I don’t think we can overplay it

this is absolutely incredible what he’s done over the past three years it’s one of the best stories in Combat Sports

he’s not you know in boxing we talk about there’s guys who are called professional opponents right another name for there might be journeyman but

they’re professional opponents it’s guys who get brought in who dude they’re not terrible Fighters professional opponents

right they’re not completely awful but what they are is designed to be just a test for somebody who is really good for

someone who like promoters believe does have a bright future and Clay Collard was brought in I think many times as a

professional opponent but dude he he didn’t get the message he’s a professional spoiler that’s what he is

he’s the guy that shows up and beats the hometown guy he’s the guy that shows up and beats the promoter’s favorite son

he’s the guy that shows up and ruins all the plans and does it in two sports you

just can’t believe it his story I like that you’re in I completely agree I you know we we take dumps on every promotion

when they deserve it or when we think that it’s merited but we also need to give them praise when it’s warranted I thought the pfl knocked this one out the

park I completely agree they really told that story very well and Clay Collard is

such a perfect guy for the pfl Ford these like last chance Redemption

stories for these guys that were never going to be promotional Darlings and they just turn themselves into one

that’s what he’s become like if I was the pfl I don’t know listen oam one on

the other side of the bracket and he looks like he’s the best version of himself you know Clay Collins got a tough ass fight Shane Burgos was

stylistically favorable because he wasn’t going to go for a takedown and he was counter punching and wasn’t as

active at least not until the third round of this contest and that really set up College chances for winning

but but oam is going to be a different story so I don’t really know if he’s going to win that kind of a contest I

guess we’ll see when they fight by the way here in Washington DC for the Championships in a few months but the

point I just wanted to make was this guy’s story is one of the best ones not just at MMA in all of Combat Sports you

gotta love what he’s done for himself really really commendable and pfl featuring him in the way that they have

it it just works it just it just keeps winning too and that helps but I didn’t even know about the whole tragedy on

that side of it so look he beat legitimate prospects in that in that pandemic running top rank to where there

were people that were wanting to vote him for like most improved fighter of the year or comeback fighter of the year or whatever or newcomer whatever

Prospect of the year like he was getting recognition in that area but since returning to MMA full time in 2021 with

bfl he’s six and two overall and he’s beaten Anthony Pettis Jeremy Stevens

Stevie Ray and now Shane Virgos like the two losses were both decisions won by

split decision and one of them to to house manfio who’s established in pfl uh

this is incredible it’s really incredible in Luke like he did square up and was there to be hit he made this a

brawl and Burgos was willing to be in there with him and like I said was violently chopping up the leg but

there’s something to be said not just about the character and toughness of Collard his boxing experience is translating so well to the to the to the

pfl because yeah he needs people willing to stand in front of him but the accuracy and the power is making a major

difference in this case not just that did you see him did you see him rolling under hooks as well to get out of the way now again by the time the third

round came on Burgos was putting it on him so if that fight had gone five rounds who knows but for the first 10

minutes make no mistake about it he out struck Shane Burgos completely cleanly I

want to talk about oam in a second but let’s talk about Virgo share Luke there’s a trend going on right now in

Burgos by the way wasn’t the late end of his career washed up let’s stop a pfl on the way home this

was considered a not in his prime but a strong pickup as a free agent signing and I don’t know if

you recall but Dana White sort of blamed his team for not signing Burgos when they had a chance

but what does pfl become for UFC vets a place where we think they’re just going to arrive and be a threat for the

million dollars and beat up on second tier guys but whether it’s Pettis Stevens

um you know Rory McDonald insert name Luke they are not having big success in the smart cage something has to be said

obviously about the seasonal format and the mental and physical grind that these

guys go on yet here we have Shane Burgos who’s only one win two defeats and three

pfl fights now Luke are we not talking enough that he was a featherweight stud in the UFC and these are lightweight

bouts what would you say about the pfl free agent experience for Shane Burgos overall

well in this particular fight again I think if it had been five rounds I would have served him better it was a it was the main event but it wasn’t five rounds

like it would have been UFC I think that’s part of it um that that the that there’s certain

guys are going to be tournament guys right certain guys are going to be like I can turn around quickly uh my game

doesn’t uh change much when I’m only doing three rounds or I don’t have elbows or whatever certain guys games

are going to adapt better through that process I think Burgos um you know he’s following three round bounce before obviously but in a contest

like this he would have been better served in five and I think that’s part of it I you know I go back to this one it’s like did he miscalculate did he

miscalculate well on some level yes right on some level he did otherwise he

wouldn’t be one in two but like when he announced that he was gonna make the move to pfl did any of us think that

that was a bad idea no like no we didn’t so I mean hindsight’s 2020 now

um I would just say this the thing about tournaments where you know you like why

is oam doing really well versus not oam’s game has gotten really complete

right he knocked this guy down with his hands the last opponent he fought I forget the guy’s name the one on

Wednesday he knocked him down with his hands and then finished him off on the ground he was always kind of a ground operator and didn’t necessarily have the

the the skills on the feet well now he does so he’s in a much more completed well-rounded stage which means no matter

the kind of opponent no matter the kind of notice he’s he can play the levels however he needs to that’s really not

what Shane Burgos has Shane Burgos might benefit more it turns out from a

Matchmaker model where they can be like okay who would he go well against and it worked well here when they put him

against Clay in terms of the action and again if it had been five rounds I think you maybe would have won but you see what I’m getting at like if you’re a

really kind of if you’re an action fighter that the promoter likes but you’ve never really been in that title contendership you have to kind of ask

yourself does the tournament model work best for me and I know what they say oh I can beat that guy can beat that guy

right can you beat that guy under those circumstances where you’re fighting every two months where you’re fighting

only in three rounds where you’re fighting without elbows and I think that that deserves much more consideration

than it used to it’s a similar debate to me BC it’s we don’t you don’t have it as much anymore because it’s just not

really as relevant but it used to be really relevant in the 2000s how a guy’s games would translate from The Ring to

the cage or vice versa because it would really make a huge difference for the guys from Team Quest who were all

wrestlers and how that would change the dynamic about whether or not they had the cage to really work their game

against it’s a similar kind of thing it’s not so much the opponent although yes that is true it’s the circumstances

under which you are fighting is your game situated for that and I think it turns out that Virgo obviously quite

talented but I don’t know that this kind of style works out best for him and if

you’ve been an established UFC fighter which Burgos has been and you’re on a specific schedule it can’t be easy to go

back into the fire of fighting in a microwave in short turnarounds this is not UFC one through ten or whatever

where you’re doing one night tournaments but this is a much shorter turnaround same thing when Bellator used to have

the tournament format we used to hear the same thing it’s a different mental and physical preparation and you have to

believe Luke you are at the mercy of the results you may win a first round fight but it may create a nagging injury that

you’re [ __ ] out of luck if that becomes a problem in your preparation or how you compete here

um but also do you like him as a lightweight in this in this promotion why why is he not fighting a feather do

they not have a featherweight tournament that would decide it right partly partly that I think partly also you know again what kind of weight can

you make if you have to fight consistently versus peaking and then going down then you have a fight like

six months later and then you peek and you go down like there’s a question of how fast he can get his body ready for

that weight class um I would say that you know I tend to think we get better results from him at 145 than we do at 155

um in general so yeah that’s not to say he couldn’t do it at 155. it’s just you know yeah I just think 145 is gonna

be better for him I just want to ask you quickly before I talk about oam uh is

this a is this becoming a negative for pfl’s free agent uh shopping if Fighters

might not love this short season format I know they have a pay-per-view Division and a lot of the big names are going

there but is this a turn off to potential guys in the midst of their Prime who might be looking to exercise

the the free agent window strategically I’ll just say this I don’t think the tournament is really the pfl’s future

not like the way they’ve been doing it where it’s just everything that they do and everything is built around it we talked about this before Ad nauseam I

won’t belabor the point but it’s the same problem in 2013 2014 that Bjorn Revenue ran into when he was doing this

exact same model if you really want to be in the pay-per-view business if you really want Stars the Matchmaker model

has plenty of problems but it is better than the other ones even for how much it

sucks and how much it can be unfavored I think if you really want to recruit Talent you want to keep them there and you want to build Stars you have to pair

back at to a bare minimum you have to pair back the the tournament model and go Matchmaker model and I think they

will I think you’re right quickly here on oam we got to give them his flowers here it was a second round knockout of

Bruno Miranda TKO excuse me he dropped Miranda and he really took his time on the ground ended up in full Mount and

was able to produce a stoppage the defending pfl lightweight champion is now 9-0 since coming to pfl and joining

the smart cage back in 2021 and that was after taking two years off when his UFC

career ended with three straight defeats this has been an incredible turnaround for Him Luke he should be rightfully I

believe the betting favorite here against Clay Collard uh the names on his win streak of going 9-0 here do include

Burgos already Stevie Ray house manfio Natan shul Martine held Daryl horcher

shout out to Daryl horcher for being one of the most Savage victims in habib’s run um Luke this is really really good he

he’s he should be the favorite to defend his title here and what another another physical breakthrough performance for

OEM yeah I mean he was a guy in the UFC let go too early or I’m not sure how he ended up parting ways and then signing

with pfl in terms of whether it was acrimony or whatever but this is what I mean this guy has a complete game and

very very experienced now as well right that’s the other part too knows how to manage around knows how to manage risk

knows how to beat guys no matter what they’re kind of doing for him and is really quite gifted kind of everywhere

that’s that guy is going to be tough to beat you know knows how to train knows how to fight knows how to work around

knows how to make everything count in the right way I just you know Clay Collard story is incredible but the oam

story is really one that shows like what kind of guy works in this model it’s the

kind of guy who was not quite at his Peak but then really rounded out to this more complete game has all the

experience everything I just mentioned bringing all of that to bear in a tournament like this he and by the way physically strong for the weight class

as well he’s a tough tough out he this is this has been nothing but a blessing for him

and he’s earned every bit of it all right so on the lightweight final it’ll be Collard versus oam and in the

welterweight division defending Champion Sada Bucy got a split decision win over Carlos slail and he’ll be taking on

former 2018 pfl champion magomed magomed karimoff who advanced by division so we

got some more finality here ahead again ahead of the DC final but Luke do you have any type of update because it has

been quiet to the rumor that continues to die and rebirth that Bellator could

end up in the hands of pfl what do you know I don’t have a small I don’t have a big one I have a really small one but I was talking to some folks about this

yesterday um it’s still in the my understanding is it’s still the pfl as the clubhouse

leader for this my understanding is and again no one from Paramount told me this but um Paramount is still wanting to make

the sale of Bellator happen as soon as possible uh the only thing that’s kind of interesting is apparently the idea of

keeping the brand separate has picked up some steam that’s something that they’re very seriously considering which I think

would be just a monster mistake um and I don’t think that that would last at all but the the the minor update

is pfl still your Clubhouse leader to buy Paramount wants to make it happen and that the brand separation apparently

has a lot more legs than it once did which I think is a mistake but I guess we’ll see what happens in the end there

you go there you go um I agree with you if you’re going to do it you gotta you got to do it for the names do it for the

depth of the roster and the names and it wouldn’t be nothing if they did that that’s a big move that’s a big ass move

look quickly here on topic number two we got championship boxing this weekend when three Bell unbe in unified

heavyweight King Alexander usek who Tyson Fury is busy with and Gano busy

with his reality series and not going after the most important fight in boxing to be very honest with you in terms of

what that would mean uh usick’s gonna defend against mandatory Daniel Dubois

six foot five not small we’ve seen Dubois before we can go to the Face-Off

early this morning in Poland after both weighed in and there you see look at

usik looking like Donald Trump at 220. you know what I’m saying yeah 63 pound weight Advantage for Dubois two inch

height Advantage Luke U6 manager in the middle when he puts on the shades That’s My Doppelganger right look at that he’s

got a fatter face but yes it’s not it’s pretty close I mean can we go Mikey can we split screen this at all

Mikey can we do it do we have that technology

I don’t think we have that technology right at the ready I think I just turned into six manager right I would take some time all right you got you got the joke

hey Luke um so here’s the thing on Dubois he’s been considered you know a future

problem for a while he’s been very good at times

but he really only has one name on his resume and that’s Joe Joyce and he did get stopped late and got his you know

orbital grown like dangerously broken you have been skeptical of this so am I

going to ask you this question are you going to ask me Luke let me ask you let me ask you if I may let me let me let me

flip the script if I can because we were talking about this fight and previewing it and so here’s the challenge I want to

give you BC right I know you’re hosting today but I’ll do this part which is give me a reason to care about this

fight Alexander usick versus Daniel Dubois that has nothing to do with what

fight is set up for the winner yeah yeah and I get that I get that

so here’s what I got to say like obviously this should be Fury versus USIC without question or usick against

you know Deontay Wilder or whatever right like what’s the biggest fight available it’s a mandatory so it’s sort

of a must do for a mandatory this is a great opponent in DuBois now I just shared legitimate questions and I think

those questions are real he’s destroyed third tier B minor you know B minus heavyweights in the third tier variety I

don’t dog him for the Joe Joyce loss under any circumstance those were two unbeaten Rising Fighters uh and Joe

Joyce since then although he did get upset by by um by Zhang Zhang Joule and they’re

going to have the big rematch coming up he’s looked great at certain time since then Joe Joyce is a puncher they got

into a big fight Dubai lost it it’s fine that happens but it was not on his level but with

this said Luke Dubose like the best mandatory you can have like there is a lot there and will it be enough to

challenge you sick no what I’m probably going to tell you is more of the idea of him staying busy and setting up that

that eventual USIC fight but the answer to your question is this compared to the option of having usig

Sid Idol you’ve got a chance to watch one of the 10 best pound for Palm fighters in the game today Alexander

usick who is in the midst of authoring one of the best all-time resumes and

Legacies that we’ve ever seen in boxing history from gold medalists in the Olympics to a first four belt Undisputed

cruiserweight champion after cleaning out that division to now on the verge of upsetting his way to that same feat at

heavyweight we’re only going to get him Luke he’s still at 36-37 we’re only going to get

him a handful of more times right seeing him operate against at least somebody with a with a pulse and the threat of

more it’s not like it’s not worth your time but is it groundbreaking and boxing is

it super hyped behind it no it’s in Poland it’s going to be on ESPN plus I think the main event start is expected

around the 5 PM eastern time it’s going to be a one fight card there’ll be a triple header at night with Jared big

baby Anderson the main event but I Echo your womp womp sounding statement but I

do think these odds are ridiculous minus 1000 for us to pause big he’s got a pulse he can fight should he be a

problem in the end no if usik ends up stopping him and ultimately outclassing him then I’m going to tell you uh that

rusick still got it at the top level and we need to have this Fury fight happen right freaking now I mean here’s the thing for me right

tell me what I’m missing the the one really good guy he fought in in Joyce broke his [ __ ] face yeah like

it’s not that I disagree that he had he has potential or that there’s still time for him to turn the corner it’s just

like in his last fight too I mean I guess there were some knee issues but he got dropped like what three times or whatever it was he came back and won

against Lorena lerina however you say his last name yeah and uh you know it’s

not like he doesn’t have potential but like every time the potential is right I should say the one time the potential

had a real chance to be actualized he got worked so it’s like what am I I mean here’s the thing right 2023 has been an

amazing year for boxing but it doesn’t mean every boxing fight even one with some consequences because there’s some

titles on the line here sure it doesn’t mean that we have to say it’s also great like I don’t think this one is also

great I just think it’s a fight well the reality of being a four belt Champion is you’re going to have mandatories and

there’s going to be a lot of the opponents who suck and we’ve never heard of them and so I’m taking that as sort of a in a bad case scenario this is a

decent case um I got questions about Dubai we’ll answer that on Saturday um would if this was Wilder or Ruiz

instead if usik was just looking for biggest name available you’d be excited right rightfully so you’d be fine if it was Wilder I would definitely be excited

and even with the Ruiz I would be excited and not necessarily as much but yes yes anything where you know I felt

like they were a real uh well it’s not that I don’t think Dubai’s a danger to usick I just don’t think he’s enough of

a danger to matter in the end the other two guys I do think would be so yeah I would care a lot more and I do believe

uh Prince Naseem Hamed’s son I think it’s pronounced Adam his name is a-a-d-a-m

um he is making I believe yeah I think he’s making his Pro debut Saturday on the zone so that’s certainly something

worth watching and I mentioned in Tulsa they’re going to have that triple header uh the undercar begins 6 50 p.m Eastern

on ESPN the ESPN plus so Luke Jared big baby Anderson is back here pretty quickly and he had a big close-up fight

last time and there was certainly a lot to light now there was a late opponent switch ended up being former Champion Prince Charles Martin and I think there

was equal a lot to love and then still some unanswered questions he’ll be facing Andre rudenko in this one and I’m

going to be honest I don’t know what’s on about redenko despite the fact that he’s got a pretty clean record here Luke

this is another step in that advancement at least big baby staying busy but after

that fight and that performance against Martin do you think big baby’s close to to really testing himself and really

going to the title level I I think he’ll wear out his welcome if he doesn’t right I mean there’s a lot of hype for him

we’ve talked about like is he in this for the Long Haul even he tells you he’s not in this for the Long Haul so how

many of these rudenko fights can you really get away with probably this one maybe one or two more total but the

clock’s ticking like people want to see this big athletic American dude fight someone of note whoever that ends up being you’re not going to get that

necessarily this weekend but if he wins I think the the appetite for him taking fights like this will Wayne and the

appetite for him to be in bigger fights will be uh enough that the one one or two of those will get made as well and

that with that decision went over Charles Martin unanimous decision snapped his unbeaten start of Knockouts he’s now 15-0 with 14 Kos just 23 six

foot four athletic aggressive powerful fun to watch we’ll see what happens uh radenco is 35-6 but uh not a household

name there couple other names in that undercard shushu Carrington’s back you always got to see him so check that out

let’s go to topic number three here Luke uh Mike Tyson he’s going to train Francis and Gano it’s a real thing and

they’ve made certain media rounds to make this public and it’s they sell they’ve coincided with with Riyadh

season and and how big this fight will be in Saudi Arabia Luke and yeah there are sports washing elements and we don’t

Dodge that there’s also a lot of money over there and that’s why these big fights are happening but Mike Tyson has

said a few things here uh do you want to set this up Luke so Mike Tyson was on

the Jim Rome Radio uh show uh previewing Fury versus enganu and he said something

that really caught my attention in like the weirdest way he said that Tyson Fury who mind you

fought Deontay Wilder three times has never faced a power puncher like in

ganu we have the audio let’s hear it from what you’ve seen in your work with Francis do you think that he can handle

Fury’s punching power absolutely because you know

um kaising Fury he got dropped by a small guy I forgot his name Covington I forgot his name that drop first early

in his career and listen this guy punches like man God knows who man

he’s fast he he moves quicker I worked for the speed and listen he only had to

land one or two listen if if you’ve never Tyson never

been in the ring with a guy that could punch this hard you don’t think no I think this guy punched hard at

anybody here before let me ask you this like you’ve got a profound appreciation for the Tactical and the technical

elements of the sport going back to your time of watching film of the all-time greats with custom model when you were

young like strategically other than France is hitting him in the face what does he need to do to win this fight

oh he just need to go all out aggression punch into the body being into the head as we’ve been working with

he moving his head he’s giving it together and he’s really determined to do this stuff he really wants to do this

with his country and people his uh whole patriotic Pride this is really

interesting I’m very ecstatic about doing this like they said before shout out to the CBS Sports Network

there Luke a channel that you and I you know we’ve been around right we’ve been

hanging on that but not yeah we put our flag down on that so Luke here’s the I’ll get into the the punching debate in

a second and it’s a big one because as you mentioned Fury’s been in there and been knocked down four times in three fights against Deontay Wilder and took

some giant clean punches from him I want to ask you this first though I

just want to get this straight about Tyson because like you know for the record here like I’m happy for Francis he’s getting the bag it worked out like

I’m cheering for team Francis to try to live his dreams and go for it I don’t like again that there’s no title on the

line here even though this is kind of a carnival fight but like it’s not like Tyson Mike Tyson

has been you know a dedicated trainer of late I just want to make sure this isn’t like all about the Riyadh season part of

it and the big bag Mike can be getting like is he saying all these things and this into it as the trainer of Francis

ingano because he can really add value and he really believes in ganu can win

or does this feel like money grab slash yay Riyadh season I don’t know if I

believe the words coming out of Mike’s mouth is what I’m saying and that’s obviously said with full love and respect for Francis but we are talking

about an uphill battle here well also like here’s the part about Mike that I just can’t be certain about

does Mike remember that he fought Wilder I mean Mike was like uh his name was

Covington I can’t remember it’s like Cunningham that’s his name and you know Mike is you know did you go

to my local dispenser you can buy Mike’s products Mike is usually high as a [ __ ] kite these days you know and God

bless him I’m not even mad at him for it I love it right it’s true yeah I legitimately wonder when he did the radio show did he realize he’s fought

Deontay Wilder three times because I mean the question is this really this is what it comes down to right

of all the power punchers that Tyson Fury has faced clearly Deontay Wilder is

number one Deontay Wilder I’ve said this before is not just powerful for this generation he’s historically powerful

he’s probably top five of all heavyweights in terms of power punching now the other guys might be ahead of him

because I’ve said this before as well they had a different array of punches that when they landed they all did

Devastation where it’s just it sort of seems like it’s more linear punches um the straight right

that does the damage for Wilder but dude when he lands it it’s just it’s curtains for you it’s Armageddon you can’t do

anything really about it and so the question is like is Francis a harder hitter than that I mean BC here’s where

I come down on this you tell me what I’m missing is it possible that Francis is a harder

hitter than Wilder yes it is possible Right but here’s why I’m a little bit hesitant to just declare that I know

he’s more than that we have seen guys go from MMA to boxing and the power just

doesn’t translate the same now there could be a lot of reasons for that they’re used to fighting at different ranges they’re used to different kind of

cardiovascular output they’re used they’re punching mechanics typically aren’t as good right guys who have a

refined ability to punch in general are going to punch harder than guys who don’t even if they’re naturally less

powerful mechanics mean a lot so I I want to be clear that like you know I’m not in any way saying that Francis is

only a hard hitter in MMA gloves he could go out there dude and lay one on Tyson and we actually discover holy [ __ ]

Mike Tyson was right he is the hardest puncher the test and fury he’s ever faced but to date I think you do need to

have a little bit of hesitation one in respecting who Deontay Wilder is whatever you want to say about his

boxing mechanics they’re better than than uh Francis inganus and again not

just powerful for this generation powerful historically and I’m not going to say it’s impossible but until I’ve

seen Francis in boxing gloves yes and what he can do I think you got a side with Deontay Wilder in this case it’s

not an easy transition it’s why Anderson Silva doing it and doing it cleanly like in the Chavez fight where the footwork

was just there and I know Silva’s trained boxing and has had Pro fights before but he had the rare style and it

was just perfect to change don’t it’s the footwork also the the goal for four ounces gloves to to the full one I know

they train in full boxing gloves but that changes potentially the the power

impact um so here’s the deal I want to put respect back on francis’s name and say like is he on the short list of of the

people who we deem to arguably be the most powerful One-Shot Strikers in the history of Combat Sports yeah he might

be so yeah this might be true it might actually be true in the end that if you stood both Deontay Wilder and Francis in

front of the punching machine that Ivan Drago was working on in Rocky IV with the Russian scientists right there uh

could he get to a higher number that equals decapitation it’s possible I don’t know though like what I’m like I

think Mike’s got the right idea and I think we talked about this with Eric nextick in the past francis’s chance of

using that power and francis’s chances in general are early in a brawl there’s

no question about that so this is the right thing to do I just think it’s I thought it was interesting that Mike

Tyson took this job though because like Fury is his namesake and that was always like a big part about you know when

Tyson Fury was born premature and had health complications and his dad was like no my son will be the heavyweight

champion of the world one day and I’ll name him after Mike Tyson and you know that was right around when Mike Tyson was on top in the late 80s and uh not

that that would be a disqualifier and Tyson doing this but I don’t know I just questioned if Mike’s there to promote

the fight and play up and got his chances or if

isn’t like is this a real partnership is in ganu gonna develop the Custom Auto like Bob and we’ve come up with the bomb

strategy I mean it’s gonna all play into the entertainment Factor but I’m just I’m I’m surprised by this

pairing in relationship I really Ambler I don’t understand it as well because Mike’s we talked about this previously

Mike’s boxing style is like it would Mike’s boxing style actually would be good to fight Tyson Fury but

you got to be like Mike Tyson built to do it which Francis is not yeah he

doesn’t have that that trunk lateral explosive footwork too like to be able

to to move into position so quickly and expertly and and with all the stability it’s very very difficult to do that he

makes it look easy it’s not easy it’s really hard so that part’s weird I’ll say this man again I want to be clear for MMA fans who are watching this and

according to the poll we have up 54 of our fans think Wilder hits harder I think that’s right I’m not saying Mike

is wrong we don’t know if Mike’s wrong I just think we should be very careful about diminishing one of the biggest

power punchers the heavyweight division has literally ever seen yeah dude if Francis goes in there and flat lines

Tyson I can’t tell you how big that would be not just because of you know the winning

side of the equation how improbable that is but for Tyson to your point Tyson

Fury to have fought one of the biggest power puncher has been knocked down four times and survived and you couldn’t do

it against Francis dude Francis would then belong in the power puncturing category even in boxing of the elite of

the elite right yes but there is a scenario with hit with that power that it could be a one punch flash finish no

okay okay but hold on hold on hold on so let me throw this back at you imagine it looks something like in

boxing what Francis did to Overeem where it’s just this demonstrable KO where

like he just I mean thrashes him with the power well then we’re having a different conversation aren’t we yeah oh

yeah yeah we are I I just you know will here’s the key question because we still

debate some people still debate to this day for maymac whether Floyd you know I have I have confirmed from members of

Floyd’s camp that he did not take that camp cardiovascularly as serious as a real fight his strategy was to do what

he did hide behind the high guard wear Conor down and pick him apart late when he’s fatigued and it worked perfectly

now Floyd also had ABS who knows right is that just or you know is that just uh urban legend who knows but there are

people that believe Luke whether he did it strategically or not that Floyd carried Connor and it led to the the

idea that the that the cardiovascular here is much different it’s something Sean Porter talked a lot about ahead of

the Nate Diaz uh Jake Paul fight in terms of it’s easier to get gassed out in boxing when you’re used to the

physical demand of MMA which is different cardiovascularly um do you think Tyson Fury who loves to

toy with danger in the ring and be a Showman does he try to stay away from Francis completely to make sure that the

that the one punch chance that he has which is Big it’s big if it’s a if it’s a clocking shot but Fury’s got great

defense great hoop head movement he’s also six foot nine and taller he’s also got an incredibly Long Reach and he’s

also way faster as we perceive it than Francis will he even be close enough for

that one punch to have a chance before like round six in your opinion that’s a great question because after

round six I do think the chances go up uh but again folks don’t understand how

hard it is you’re only throwing punches right you’re not doing anything else you have to constantly move your feet if

you’re going to do it well and if it’s a 12 round fight that’s 36 minutes of fighting you know the most you’d ever do

in MMA is 25. it’s ten Luke it’s a 10 round 10 round contest okay fine still

30 minutes it’s still five that would be a six round MMA ballot I mean that’s hard as [ __ ] to do for a heavyweight I

mean it’s a lot of fighting so I do think it is very very different again people don’t even realize that carrying your hands with the wet gloves when

you’re not used to it with like it’s harder and harder and harder to do yeah I mean listen all this is improbable it

could just be we’re buying into something we have Mike’s trying to say to sell the fight

um you know I I don’t know I feel like uh in Ghana’s best Chance is going to be

high guard crowding and walking in working the body and then coming over the top a little bit of esot Cruz style

BC yeah it’s like can a guy who’s never boxed before pull that off probably not

right probably not uh Luke let’s transition to topic number four and it’s the fighting future of a

big name free agent and former Bellator Welterweight Title Challenger Michael Venom page MVP now Luke he um

he said in this free agent period that he feels like he doesn’t need to prove himself that his reputation holds firm

and that he wants the Michael Chandler treatment can you explain what he means by that so basically what he had argued

was that maybe I’m getting part of this wrong and if so the audience can correct me but the basic idea is that like you know he doesn’t need to go fight a I’ll

make up a name that you know some folks had suggested like renette for cretanov like renat from that freneticov the guy

who beat um Kevin Lee right so some kind of dagestani guy who’s going to leg lace you and all this kind of nonsense he

doesn’t really feel he he he needs to do he doesn’t have to prove himself the question is you know what are some fun fights you can make what are the sort of

the appropriate Matchmaker model fights that you could make that would one

showcase why folks are excited about him but also be like you know a good enough of a not a test of his skills per se and

like you know do you have enough well-rounded ability to compete in the UFC but rather you know are you good enough to go you know fast track to the

title or something like that um so you know he believes that Michael Chandler didn’t have to do that he didn’t Michael didn’t have to start at

the bottom and then work his way up through tough guys who maybe weren’t ranked and blah blah blah he he got to

start much more readily he got to start well was it was Dan hooker his debut I believe I forgot that right yeah yep and

then he went through a guy murdered after that yeah and who did hooker not a easy guy to beat that’s not the point

but a guy who stylistically uh is gonna be an action fighter right a guy who has

very experienced himself and a guy who’s gonna stand and kind of bang with you uh in as much as he needs to I guess

obviously he took down NASA National hack brass but we get the idea so what he wants is somebody similar to that

give me another stylistic action fighter who the fans know and respect that would

make a fun fight with a big enough name such that a win over that automatically

propels him into a much more interesting conversations rather than a tough dagestani guy who no one wants to fight

that doesn’t mean much if you lose you know or even if you win let’s compare it to Eddie Alvarez who was in a similar

territory as Michael Chandler based on age when he came in and I never expected Eddie Alvarez to make the run to the

title that he did I thought he’d be in big fights and be fun but Eddie got Donald Cerrone as his first test and

then after that close loss had to had to go through like not easy names to quickly work himself into the title shot

and then he wins the championship so shout out to Eddie um are you asking me essentially for a Cerrone type but would

that be the Michael Chandler treatment yeah you know what I think the Cerrone fight is fair I didn’t think that was an unfair fight for Eddie any any

underperformed in that fight I mean the reality of Eddie Alvarez is folks always talk about how he got rocked and then

would come back which is true like he was famous for it right and we all know would love Eddie for that reason but

Eddie also had times where he would just kind of underperform right against Conor McGregor do I think that that’s the best

that Eddie Alvarez could do no I don’t I don’t I still don’t believe that I mean Conor got the best of him Conor did you

know take nothing from Connor he just did an amazing amazing job that night but that’s not the best Eddie Alvarez

has to offer and I think most people who are honest know that so the reality is he tends to at times underperform but

then we all know the story he comes and storms back and does really great either in the fight itself and the round itself

or in his career so I actually think that’s a very appropriate fight so a tough test that fans love Donald Cerrone

might take you down but he didn’t he leg kicked the [ __ ] out of it and we don’t mean today Donald Cerrone we mean the

Donald Trump from 2015. yeah the one the one that the one that uh Eddie got at that time I think that would be very

fair they didn’t they didn’t do Eddie Alvarez dirty in that contest they didn’t do Mike Chandler dirty and I

think they should give something similar to MVP the question is like do you think MVP is right that he deserves that and I

would argue what would be the point of signing him if you didn’t like yeah the

guy draws a crowd in London we know that so it’s work or don’t but make it work on the terms that it’s supposed to be

there for that’s the thing because if you’re the UFC you either believe that he could be a star and you might want to

to try to support that with the matchmaking to give him a chance to be or you just might want somebody that you

can help continue to make stars out of your risers if you think MVP’s more Sizzle than than legit and you love

getting one up over former Bellator fires which I don’t even think is part of Dana’s like mindset at the moment or

or you know he’s not fighting that battle that would dictate that I want to quickly read before I give my pick uh

what MVP said to David arasania the brother of the champion here on I Believe YouTube saying I want top five

top 10 Macs I don’t feel like I need to prove myself all over again I just want to go in there and we’ve seen it with

Chandler he fought a top 10 Dan hooker great first win that just sprung him to the contention that’s the route I see

myself in I don’t see it any other way I don’t need a warm-up fight and it’s not like I’ve been out of the game for ages

I’m ready to go now Luke I know you want me to give something similar to whatever it has against Chandler I mean against

um cowboy Cerrone back in when he made the leap but wouldn’t this next name I’m about to

say be the ultimate perfect feaster Famine of what it could give you the name I’m talking about is Conor McGregor

at welterweight Luke I know you’re like that’s crazy and stupid why would we do that if MVP is not ready for prime time

on this level he’s not going to take Conor down and it could be this bounce back win for Conor that’s massive and further pushes Bellator down and UFC as

the king or or you could Fast Track MVP off of that if he got a pay-per-view win

like that um and he could suddenly become an attraction Rising Contender that you can take big Chances with in the matchmaking

and it might just work out for you for a bit Luke am I crazy here yeah you’re crazy you’re crazy I don’t think that’s

an appropriate use of his time at all in either direction the ones that our fans apparently are suggesting would be Ian

Gary which would be a good one but I don’t know how you skip out on the Wonder Boy one two guys with a point karate Background by all means at 40

years old this is what I mean like do Wonder Boys Still tough to beat um it’s a favorable style you don’t have to worry about the guy taking you down

and you’re beating a guy with a name I don’t know where he’s ranked currently so I don’t know if it fits that five or

ten model but that one works well for me we’re also hearing Uh Kevin excuse me Kevin Holland love that choice Michelle

padena I don’t really like Gilbert Burns I don’t really like I especially don’t like Gilbert Gilbert is way too tough I think Gilbert would beat him I think

rather handily and I don’t I don’t know that makes a lot of sense but the other ones the guys that will knuckle up with

him the guys that will sort of meet him in the middle there that have names that can create excitement and beating them

means something yeah give them those give them those how about this would Bilal take that if it was promised the

title shatter has waste of time dude’s gonna take him down dude what the [ __ ] is the point of that what the [ __ ] is the point we’ve seen I’m not saying he

wouldn’t do better than Logan story but it would be something like the Logan story fight okay it needs to be someone

that mvp could look great against so you’re not going to put him in there with the wrestling then why don’t you put him in there with an older name

especially when moving up do you like Poirier against him I like that I take that 40 is a fun one

yes that’s a good one 48 could go for a takedown but you know it wouldn’t be his first choice by any

stretch the imagination um yeah I like that one that’s a great one Gilbert Burns which I think you

mentioned in the fans mentioned is also I mean he’s a black belt world champion like dude that’s a real bad idea okay

that is also a bad idea I kind of like the Conor one it’s um I don’t have I think you can still

put people over with Connor I know Mucky was questioning that did you see what Darren till said about Connor

no Darren till I you know I don’t we have said something like you and I have

talked about this we have said similar things but not quite the same which is that he doesn’t think Connor

ever fights again and is having a hard time letting go you know he doesn’t train the same way he’s living his life

and like we all have said it too like I don’t know about all the crimes he’s alleged to have Commit but like putting that to the side for just a moment just

in terms of like the life he lives where he’s on boats and you know he’s showing up on red carpets and Miami Heat games

and you know I know there was some issues there but whatever like living a life like a rich celebrity is basically

my point like if you live a life like that that’s not a Fighter’s life it’s not you can

fight like that but you’re not going to do all that well if you even fight at all and he just thinks like he can’t let

go of this idea that he’s still you know this like decorated kind of guy and

won’t fight again I still think Connor fights again but to hear another fighter say that was kind of interesting well we’ve been waking up to the idea and

sometimes we’ve made references or jokes or been serious about it too it seems like Conor’s like living the rock star

life like living potentially the drug life and you know he did sort of reveal ahead of the Habib fight that it was all

in on Fitness but also all in on the other stuff and you know you’re not going to get the best of yourself and certainly not against somebody like

Habib but that’s a long time ago and he should have learned these lessons but Luke I’m just fresh off of watching that

Untold Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix which really focuses on

rightfully so that beginning with once he got to the NFL with the Browns now he’d always lived an aggressive party

life and that’s always been a part of who he was and you know he wasn’t the student who watched any tape and that helped lead to his bust run in one year

with the Browns as an NFL quarterback but it really showed in him admitting it that basically beginning with when

things got hard there in Cleveland he just turned off stopped caring and went full on into self-destruction party mode

that lasted many years do you think Connor’s really in the midst of that

that he’s on a destructive dark path and maybe some of this idea of him crying

about the usada thing but then not doing anything to change it is really his way of having an excuse not to fight and he

might be in the midst of one of these absolute free Falls and why the hell are we not woken up to it yeah that I mean

that’s absolutely on the table I guess you know I’m so far removed to declare that that’s what’s happening is hard to

say but like how could anyone look at what’s happening and say that that hypothesis

you just offered seems off like it’s like it could explain just

about everything that we’re looking at for Better or For Worse so yeah I mean the Johnny Manziel thing is weird dude I

watched part of it too like the [ __ ] guy didn’t watch tape I mean I know in MMA we’re used to guys like oh I don’t

watch tape my coaches watch tape guys a quarterback of the NFL does nothing but watch tape like you kids I don’t know

it’s like I don’t even know how to explain how to do that job without watching tape you have to watch hours of

it daily and he didn’t watch any it was the equivalent of what a lot of us have

went through where up to a certain level in your schooling for some people that’s 12th grade even you can dominate without

putting in the work on just intellect and ability to take tests and I can cram when I need to I can you know but I’m

faking it most of the way but I’m keeping up a high grade average and then you get to whatever level some college some high school and you get woken up

abruptly at what is demanded of you he’s the equivalent of that in football and it’s like even if he I wanna like he’s

small Luke and there was always going to be odds against him making it but then again the rules have changed so much to

allow for an aggressive athletic quarterback in ways that they never would have tried to back in the day uh

but yeah he completely self-destructed and once it got to the point that the work got too hard just wanted out and

you know and I understand that and I get it I mean you know it blew it but at least he’s open and honest about it now and it feels like he’s trying to make

some positive change in his life but that’s what happened and maybe that’s what’s happening to Conor I mean he’s not I just feel like Conor has built a

life for himself that has nothing to do with the fight game yes right so he hasn’t left the

fight game you know that’s not what I’m saying he’s been building up this wealth building up this portfolio of Friends

building up this I’m going to be at this event and I’m going to be involved in this business and whatever none of that

has got jack [ __ ] to do with being like like what is you know I don’t know uh

what is um what is volkanovsky doing every day like yeah he’s got meet and greets and stuff like that but that dude

is just hard-nosed in the gym that’s just not Conor would you like to see Connor kind of go the De La Hoya route

and like get into promotion and get at least have some dedicated job in the fight game that could use his games

aren’t even good anymore right didn’t he say about KSI like the guy couldn’t box eggs even he worked in an egg boxing

facility or whatever the [ __ ] yeah right he’s watching things blow his gimmick is washed his game is washed and enough

matchmaking with him on the fantasy side Luke because I don’t know he may not answer that Bell you might be right you may not into that bill again it might be

where we’re at here anyway Luke we we could end up being dead wrong about it but at least we have a segment dedicated

every Friday in this show where unlike the rest of the people we’re up against for podcast Awards we don’t have an

accountant they don’t have a compatibility Ombudsman segment where they stand trial to find out if what they said was

absolute [ __ ] and they in fact if you have receipts and you have enough balls to bring it to our table

maybe we really were okay get to the segment dead wrong

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yeah yeah you know I just I just yeah I just go all right number one here from Edgar Luke on Wednesday’s episode BC

joke that everyone called him McVeigh in his 20s because he had a very Unabomber

haircut true fact if I got a haircut walked into Stop and Shop where I worked in college Luke right away people like oh I have a

Timothy mcvaylook is back way to go who are you gonna which building are you gonna blow up that was a thing Luke okay

anyway this is strange because McVeigh was the Oklahoma City bomber right Unabomber Ted Kaczynski was big old Ted

Kaczynski that joke really blew up in your face so is he saying that I called McVeigh you can’t be the I mean like the

Unabomber if you saw him he had like a beard and like long scraggly hair I know the difference that was a uh a slip in

the moment the Unabomber was big old Ted Kaczynski that joke really blew up in BC’s face you really bombed on that one

good dad joke skills right there by the way Ted Kaczynski just died at super max not just but really did recently yeah I

think he hung himself I think he killed himself yeah well that’s a good oh that’s interesting okay so he says my life is so sad so very sad regards Edgar

Lugo Vasquez so thank you Edgar for the dad did you ever read his Manifesto Edgars no I’m not really no no uh

kozinski’s no I have not uh he was he was uh you know in terms of

like obviously he was an evil guy but in terms of his ability to well in terms of

by the way uh it’s not here anymore but there was a museum here in DC called the Newseum they have since like demolished

it but they had one section for like all the things the FBI had ever captured and

they had uh they had his Shack they had the F they had the unabomers like you

could go and look at it like dude it was it was not money my man was living hand to mouth out did they recreate it or did

they physically move into this music they moved it that’s the real one yeah it’s the real one I guess they were

grossed I love it that’s a gross commitment to accuracy and detail like did people go to like Dahmer’s condo and

and like uh keep the rug to sell it on eBay one day I mean that’s pretty gross it’s Grim well I mean he didn’t hack up

people there weren’t like murders committed in the actual cabin um so it’s a little bit different but

the other point is uh uh they had letters from like Saddam Hussein that he had written to

um George Bush and [ __ ] like that like a bunch of weird stuff it was it was odd yeah it turns out that that mass killer

was a weirdo who would have thought look I mean lived in the loan in the woods on the run with a long beard who would have

thought right yeah yeah I do have an uncle that lives uh deep in the woods like that Luke I think he just likes being alone too so shout out to Uncle

Rick you know uh houses how’s his Wi-Fi is it worse than your shitty Wi-Fi it’s probably a

lot better Loki was always ahead of the game in those areas all right let’s keep it going over to Jaden he says hello

long time listener but first time complainer oh it’s me again BC must not have had time to watch the video because

the one he mentioned that was posted following UFC 292 of the main event oh he’s talking about when I said O’Malley

was the first uh full fight they showed after a pay-per-view on social media to promote O’Malley he said this was not

the whole fight in fact UFC only posted the second round and the post fight remarks from the sugar show please do

stay quirky BC also Luke have you heard of The Vape alternative fume or fum

alternative fum fume I haven’t Vaped in a while good good to hear you dirt Hole uh Luke

Jaden was right and I was wrong apparently they posted just the second round but still that was a big move for

the UFC committing to promoting the star of O’Malley true or false yeah funny that they took that from Showtime boxing

who Dana was saying the the Showtime boxing production is not that great I don’t know it looks like it was pretty good to me yeah

um This Dana versus Showtime war is kind of comical Luke but uh you know I’ll take arms in this side and Luke all

right you know I’ll do it all right uh let’s keep it going here from John uh

Dear John he says Hey donks on Friday’s mailbag Luke said that the Burger King in DC was the last Burger to have 80s

Nostalgia decorated inside that was false my mom lives in Glen Cove Long Island and her Burger King is still

decorated the same and infested with roaches

well I tell you what when the news said it was shutting down which it did shut down they said it was the last one in

the country so that’s why I repeated it but the fake news media got me again I guess look when I used to be addicted to

uh debauchery and fast food and Wendy’s was our like unique Gourmet fast food we didn’t have it in my hometown still

don’t but we’d go anywhere for it I remember like adding up my debauchery over the years I’ve like thrown up in

Wendy’s and then eat finished my meal I’ve cracked my pants in a ways like I’ve done everything possibly gross in

there uh to Echo off of the mystery of Big John’s exploits in Tokyo have you

done damage in Big Chicken in that same Regard in your uh area wherever that is You’re gonna laugh at this I actually

never ate at the big chicken not once what no it’s a landmark and what town is it in Marietta Marietta Georgia yeah

okay so if somebody said where’d you live in Georgia was it always Marietta no so I lived in three different towns I

lived in Nashville Georgia for a Time the and I lived in Valdosta Georgia which was the big football capital and

then I moved North to Marietta which is just outside Atlanta okay so they’re all Atlanta suburbs yes

no no no only Marietta the other two Valdosta is like the last City before you hit Florida it’s like it’s in it’s

in Lowndes County Lowndes County is literally on the Georgia Florida border you were some you were the redneck

Riviera you were some Panhandle [ __ ] you were a dubbo yeah dude I mean this is why I say when like we were like oh the

South has charm I’m like go [ __ ] yourself just just eat all the [ __ ] you don’t know what you’re talking about nope nope

enjoy yourselves at proud boys Pavilion Luke for that great concert you’re about to steal all right there you go uh let’s

uh that’s the three dead wrong oh no we got one for you we got one we got one

special one that they sent in it’s a dead wrong for BC and they want me to read it BC

you know because I’m a normal human I’ve never eaten at Arby’s and um

you know that’s one thing about you that makes you just an absolutely disgusting piece of white trash [ __ ] I also did whip-its in the Arby’s parking lot so I

mean that just adds on to it Luke all right so here we have a dead wrong for you from a man who goes by the name of

Devin or could be Devon I’m gonna say Devin I don’t really know but let me read it as follows this is a dead wrong

for Brian the this past week I don’t know how old this is so but but you recently went over like I’ll get to it this past week

I was enjoying the mailbag episode you guys put together I think we as fans really appreciate the fact that you

pre-record things for us when you’re gone however there was one part of the episode that rubbed me the wrong way Luke asked Brian for the best when

excuse me the best Arby’s order to which he obliged two beef and Cheddars curly

fries and a jamocha shake was the order is that correct yeah that’s it that’s that’s the winner that’s sex right there

Devin says this is the equivalent of the missionary position for a washed dude

with a love of gas station food you’ve got this one completely wrong and here’s his credentials my tenure at Arby’s

lasted from ninth grade to 12th grade and I’ve enclosed a picture from about

15 years ago to prove my experience do we have that Mikey uh no pick LOL okay

Arby’s has so many better options on the menu and in my opinion Brian’s credibility is shot soon he’s only going

to be relegated to buy one get one cameos because nobody can trust the hoser so maybe he’s a Canadian Arby’s

fan I don’t know all right the correct Arby’s order is as follows chicken bacon

ranch sandwich no lettuce loaded baked potato extra shredded

cheese jamoka shake and he writes admittedly this is a banger and Brian is for this

is right and then he adds apple or blueberry turnover both are fantastic PS

Brian says Quebec like a man who’s never been there it’s Quebec not I don’t know cubic I don’t know how he says it uh

Luke no disrespect to you or any of the thousands of fans listening but I got a message for one man Brian Campbell get your [ __ ] together I’m waiting for your

Arby’s order first of all if you’re a Canadian talking about Arby’s do they even have them up there Luke all I saw was Tim

Hortons up in my uh my motherland of quebecois up there Luke the people that I love and felt one with not like this

clown but I will say this to that first of all you’re substituting the order

with with chicken at a place that’s known for the sloppy gross beef and cheddar that looks like you know leaked

soccer goalie nudes Lucy like just ridiculous right um but I’ll also say this Luke I’ll also

say this I did not so I I was Arby’s was a was a victory fast food meal for me it

was a like attraction it was a once a year twice a year Thing I Never Had

Arby’s in my town there was one at the gross Waterbury Mall in Connecticut uh

that I that I did hit at times but um I wasn’t like that wasn’t part of my

routine so yeah missionary position but that was like the order at the place

that had this nostalgic feel because I never had it in Connecticut for a while and then my uncle used to bring to it to hang out and that was our stop and it

was it Arby’s was like royalty of fast food for me and then you know I did a lot of whippets in the parking lot while

chowing down beef and Cheddars and you know those memories are just so nostalgic and great so uh yeah I guess

I’ll take that I never explored the menu because I always felt like well I gotta ask you what is it well you’ve been

cheddar you got to go after what they do great you know what I’m saying I have to say asking to go to a fast food place that’s not Chick-fil-A and Order chicken

is always dubious to me you know indeed indeed okay but comment chicken bacon ranch sandwich how was it no lettuce

I’ve never had it because I’m trying to tell you I was in a regular Arby’s guy I was like an attraction occasion Arby’s

guy and why am I gonna order chicken at freaking Arby’s where it’s like I’m with you on that one a little bit this guy

worked at Arby’s but still all right the loaded baked potato extra shredded cheese I gotta tell you I’m not going to

[ __ ] fast food to get a baked potato eat [ __ ] if you go to Wendy’s and you get the chili you’re 65 years old I’m

sorry I’m not going to the salad bar all right perfect single you know did you have the

apple or blueberry turnover I have never had that from from Arby’s wow

okay so you haven’t had you have you’ve never had this guy’s order well yeah I’ve never I I I’ll admit I

have not gone deep down the menu but I did have it two to three times a year and each time felt special and I kept it

that way Luke okay very good all right shout out to the beef and

cheddar it’s a it’s a lifestyle hey Luke let’s close with this you are fresh off the bird from a I’m gonna assume a

beautiful family vacation in Colombia not Colombia uh just so that people know

and shout out to the survivors of that earthquake that you texted me about Luke uh not what the hell’s going on it ended

up being not that big a deal but they had two earthquakes while I was there well Luke shout out to everyone fighting

the good fight in Hawaii I mean there’s just been craziness with the weather lately and then my wife tried to get me to watch that movie on Netflix about

that tsunami from 20 years ago you know what I’m talking about that I saw it I saw it that was I was unsettling at best

see the only thing I really fear in life Luke outside of chicks with neck tattoos

who smoke cigarettes is um is natural disasters like like aggressive thunderstorms hurricanes

tornadoes like I feel like any other situation in life when we don’t have control I’ve got I’ve got peace and and

but we have no control in those circumstances Luke Mother Nature will kick your [ __ ]

all right so how about a Gringos guys yeah look yeah there you go here we go and by the way you know the people in

English it’s pronounced the same either way it’s Colombia Colombia but in Spanish c-o-l-o Colombia c-o-l-u Colombia so

that’s why that’s where you would get the differences okay I got five things for everyone I’ve now been I realized this I talked about it with my wife I’ve

not been going to Colombia for 10 years 10 years I’ve been vacationing there basically every single year I can’t even

remember how many times I’ve been now I’ve been a bunch of times and I’ve got like I’ve got a list of five I’m gonna make it six here on the on the um I’m

going to call a bit of an audible on things real simple ways to have a good time enjoy yourself stay out of trouble

appreciate the culture all the things you’re supposed to do whenever you travel internationally right all that kind of could I survive a trip a

vacation without you with like my family if I were telling you I’m flying to Columbia for vacation would you allow me

to do that would you have fears for my livelihood I think if you took my advice here you’d be just fine how about that

I’m ready all right number one [ __ ] don’t drive don’t [ __ ]

drive I cannot tell you how many people have told me they’re going to rent a car when they go to Columbia dude shut the

[ __ ] up that’s the worst idea you could ever have Colombian I have been in

Egyptian traffic right I have sat through that I have been in traffic in

Istanbul right I’ve been in traffic in various parts of Europe all over the United States I have never in my life

seen driving and traffic like you get in Colombia and more importantly not even

the traffic just the driving dude there’s painted Lanes we’re supposed to

stay in none of that [ __ ] means anything they are in and out they’ll go the wrong

way down the the road they’ll move into the opposite side of the road just to get around there’s people on bicycles

you drive far enough outside the city you got to drive around people on donkeys that’s a real thing that has

happened to me I’m not doing a bit on this whatsoever the infrastructure can be better or worse depending on where

you go do you remember the first time BC you ever went and sat in a New York City Cab and you couldn’t believe how much

you were risking your life by all the [ __ ] turns my future health and hygiene yeah a few times look yeah dude

it’s that on steroids they will borderline hit each other the rules don’t mean anything red lights don’t

mean anything green lights don’t mean anything stop signs don’t mean anything nothing means anything other than

getting from point A so point B let an experienced driver do this for you and

by the way it’s easy to hire drivers like if you want to go from not just cabs or whatever but if you want to go from like City to city like a nearby

thing or even the suburb it’s super cheap to hire someone who will just be your driver for the day it’ll cost you

like how much do we pay that guy we paid him 70 000 pesos what was that that’s basically I paid him less than 20 bucks

for a full day of driving full day of driving and this [ __ ] is going I mean he’s going around donkey he’s

trying to upsell [ __ ] Luca to you at all no no no no you can get like the biggest cab drivers do yeah you some

some guys like that exist but there are real dudes who do the real job the right way I’m just warning you dumbasses I

cannot tell you how many Americans like I’m gonna rent a car and go see the countryside this ain’t Tuscany don’t do

that so we had a family vacation book three years ago that we ended up having to cancel uh because of changes in our

schedule and it was to go to Costa Rica and stay in the mountains and the plan was to fly there drive two hours to the

coastal city and then climb these massive mountains in a four-wheel drive and I remember thinking like that this is going to be the end of me but

wouldn’t have been fine look I don’t know Costa Rica I can’t say I’m sure all parts of Latin America are not the same in that way uh because for example like

Cartagena does not have the same kind of traffic that other places do but uh don’t [ __ ] drive is the answer don’t

drive don’t drive hey we’re gonna drive don’t do that don’t recommend that at all that’s a real bad idea that’s number

one number two carry cash now that sounds counterintuitive you’re like oh I might get scammed no dude you’ll get

scammed not carrying cash it works the other way around so when you get in a

cab for example BC do you think they have meters they don’t have meters no and when you go to pay 20 000 pesos they

can’t break your change if you uh if you have a car they can’t take it and B if you only have a 20 or let’s say you only

have a 50 they can’t break it they can’t break you at all so then they drive you around to a place who can break it and

now it costs even more it’s still pretty cheap by the way because the Dollar’s strong as [ __ ] but the point being is here’s my recommendation if you are

going to travel to a place like this take out 300 thousand pesos from the ATM it’s about eighty four dollars this will

carry you so [ __ ] far I cannot overstate it and also there’s a bit of like a sad part to this story as well

there’s these guys who have you know who will sell like you know the toys that light up when you turn them for like

little kids or whatever this guy still be one it was it was uh 40 000 pesos and

all I had was a 50. all he had to give me back was ten he had no change he had no money to break so like the one I’m

trying to make here is a lot of these people are living hand to mouth and like don’t have the actual ability to give

you change also the dudes and the dudes at stop lights who come and like pour [ __ ] on your windshield and then and

then wash it you can’t just tell those guys to [ __ ] off because they won’t like they’re not gonna listen to you so you

got to have like a couple thousand to like Chuck them you know to keep everything you got to keep the system working did you ever try the opposite

though did you ever try to tell them to f off and like you know I will third world so I asked my wife why we do Round

And basically the cab driver was like not a good idea that’s exactly what he said he’s like not a good idea Doug

don’t do that so like if native people are like we don’t do that I’m gonna listen to them now of course

the flip side is if you go to a nice restaurant if you go to a nice place of course all of them take cards all hotels all travel agencies you know all those

places all take cards like you don’t have to worry about it but I cannot overstate this do not rely on that you

will end up in trouble or just getting scammed out of your [ __ ] like it’s gonna happen now from the from the skits and

bits files of uh nothing a double leg couldn’t figure out if [ __ ] turned the wrong way for you there as a gringo

traveler would you rely on your background in jejuts to nullify the

situation no it ain’t worth it you can have it okay I’m not dying because some poor kid hasn’t eaten in a day okay but

if you’re in it let’s say you’re in it because sometimes you’re just in it Luke okay you’re in it well yeah I mean if you’re being attacked then yes you

should defend yourself but like if someone pulled a gun would you mckenza teen some guy just to just to prove that

that time was well spent only if I absolutely had to only if I absolutely had to yeah and it sounds like I’m

telling you that Colombia is something like super dangerous hellhole that’s not what I mean I just mean you gotta learn how to travel smartly you got to learn

how to travel safe I’ve literally in 10 years of going to Colombia I’ve never one time had an issue but I also don’t

do dumb [ __ ] when I go I keep it straight and orderly right so there you go number three this is the good part

and the bad part here’s a story for you BC music is everywhere now 99 of this is

a wonderful thing if you get in your car by the way no one plays like reggaeton

there like it it’s in public you just don’t ever hear you hear it in the clubs or whatever or in bars but in the cab

they’re playing something called like vaginato which is like how do I explain that it’s like uh

abortion style r b or something it’s it’s like love songs for like country people or whatever

in any in any case it’s everywhere in every Town Square everywhere you go every restaurant every bar everything

and music is everywhere it’s a huge part of the culture and you should lean into that and enjoy it because it’s such a

wonderful part of going there it’s new music you’ve never heard live performances everywhere it’s fantastic

but BC yeah there’s a limit to that [ __ ] dog

at pools and at beaches it will drive you [ __ ] insane what

they pull someone will show up to the pool with a big ass Bluetooth and

without any permission by the way there’ll be signs that saying like don’t use your Bluetooth they’ll just do it anyway and they’ll play music loud as

[ __ ] that you never asked for and everyone just seems to tolerate it and I’ll make a point people are like oh if

you’re going to another country you have to tolerate their ways well up to a point up to a point here’s a perfect

example my wife and I took Tookie to the beach there was this dude going up and down the beach on his bike but there’s

always people trying to hustle you on the beach there right it’s just always a thing so you have to learn how to say by the way you’re the worst Chamber of

Commerce member in Colombia history right now listen to me there was a dude rolling around on his bike had a

Bluetooth speaker I’m not kidding like this big and he would rent it out to people who ever wanted it the couple in

the beach tent next to us and they’re all right next to each other turned it on rented it from the guy it’s like 20

000 pesos for an hour like nothing like five bucks and played I mean mariachi music that you could have heard from

space dog that’s how [ __ ] loud it was even my wife who’s Colombian as [ __ ]

looked at me and was like let’s go even my wife did that so warning to everybody

however you want to handle it you can handle it you can ask them to turn down they’re going to say de malas like too bad it’s not gonna work

the music is everywhere and almost every time it’s not only great it’s charming

and it’s [ __ ] awesome but there are going to be some limits to that as well you should be forewarned about it okay

that’s No Limit Soldier just so yeah no limit soldiers I mean by the way this lady next to me at the pool had one

phone that was playing a religious service like oh dios te bendiga like this whole [ __ ] you know and then on

another phone she was doing FaceTime calls yelling over the service on the

other phone and then she laid down and obviously the FaceTime call finished she just let on speaker the religious

service play while she laid down eventually fell asleep and turned off but this is what I’m talking about you have to be ready for [ __ ] like that it’s

like it’s it’s in your face so far this this segment has been more offensive to Latin people than than the Gringo poppy

no no no I can’t like for example here’s the best side of it right you go to the Town Square we saw this old gentleman

playing guitar he was playing uh Buena Vista Social Club which is like Cuban music dude it was

amazing it was amazing to see and like the street performances in Cartagena where we had like they’ll marry it with

dancers so they’ll have big bands out of nowhere dude I cannot overstate how awesome that part is but there’s always

two sides to it right in any system people are going to go too far right they’re going to go too far so just a

heads up on that and by the way this is just for Americans to stay out of trouble not to get into it okay four here’s the good news eat all the things

can’t can’t tell you enough how good the food is including street food it is the

best I put up I sent Mikey I don’t know if he has it I sent him a picture look at this meal that I had on the left you

have a shrimp and lobster stew that had been cooking for like 45 minutes with a top layer of cheese that they baked it’s

called there’s a only kind of soup you can get in our stew in our Cartagena it’s called a cazuela on the right you

have coconut rice and you have fried plantains up top is a kind of like a sour cream they call suero on the right

there is this cocktail sauce they call Aji it’s a special kind of Ahi it’s a Caribbean Ahi and then a bunch of limes

okay BC I’m not exaggerating it’s a top five meal I have ever had in my life in

my life the seafood if you’re on and you got to eat regionally if you’re in the mountains eat what they eat in the

mountains if you’re on the sea eat what they eat in the sea wherever you are eat relative to that region the food in

Colombia is a 10 out of 10 that meal one of the very best meals I’ve ever had in

my life don’t be the Gringo that goes to [ __ ] Burger King Mikey don’t be the

guy who goes to all the American joints and just gets the [ __ ] that they’re used to if you’re gonna go to this place you

gotta lean in the food will do you right okay I’m not gonna take that quietly

Mikey’s not going to continue to take that slight quietly all right all right yeah yeah he did do that let me add a uh

a number five here we don’t have it we have a different number five but let me add a five here here’s another do if you’re especially if

you’re a guy but even if you’re a girl as well do get a haircut do not be afraid at all of getting a haircut or

trimming or getting your hair done first of all it’s Dirt Cheap you can get your beard trimmed and a haircut for like 20

000 pesos like five bucks like nothing and it is expert level good you’ve never

gone to one of these places and seen anyone that works there with a bad haircut and by the way you can just walk

on in show them a picture you don’t need any English dude so many places you

travel to you’re like I don’t know if I trust this person trust these people they know what they’re doing when it

comes to getting a great haircut it’s cheap it’s easy to get they’re everywhere they’re in every Mall they’re

in every place you could ever go to get a haircut the best thing you could possibly do and also one addendum to

that BC I don’t know how you’ll feel about this shopping malls in Colombia are still like a thing like it’s still

it’s still a place where people go to it’s still all the best like things you can buy are it’s still like they’re

they’re still happening there in ways where I think in America they’ve somewhat declined no over there like if

you someone’s like oh let’s go to the mall to eat that’s a good idea like the food court there will be very very very very good sure right some kind of thing

all right last but not least and this is just for my Gringo folks right okay please don’t work cargo pants I mean

you’re just asking you’re just asking for problems I mean nothing is more Gringo than showing up and wearing cargo

pants the Europe the Europeans do this too by the way they show up in a backpack dude I’m not saying you’re

gonna get anything super bad happen to you but people are gonna know you’re not from around there and that’s going to

make things a little bit harder to negotiate with price and blah blah blah BC do not wear cargo pants whenever you

visit the great state or the great country I should say I’ll bring a different colored pair for every day Luke I was surprised you didn’t have

number six do not knock it in your own goal in the world cup or did I break off right I mean what are we doing here he’s

talking about National trauma okay but in all seriousness I’m telling you

if you don’t drive hire someone to do it if you got enough cash on you about 3 300 000 pesos for the week enjoy the

music wherever it is but know there might be some limits for you as an American that you’re not used to yeah eat all the good food get a haircut and

don’t wear cargo pants like a [ __ ] head you’re gonna have the time of your life I’ve been going for 10 years the people

of Columbia are some of the nicest people in the world it’s one of the best places to see it’s quicker to get here from the East Coast than it is to get to

California go see it just do it smartly those are your tips it’s like eat everything every salad I mean just you

know BBL Heaven Luke uh 65 people didn’t say they’d rather travel with BC yeah

you’re going to go to lame ass places and do lame ass [ __ ] then but they’re gonna have the best possible time Luke they won’t be lectured the whole time

all right yeah that’s true I will do a little large educated sophisticated man so thank you for the Gringo’s guide to

Columbia and uh I will have a similar one about Quebec no just kidding but I

did love me some k-back Luke but the food there will kill you it will slowly kill you this is is why heart disease is

in my family I blame the quebecois uh that’s the show for you probably the best two hours of your week or your

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uh Luke I want you to know and tell you to your face that I cheated on you yesterday and recorded with Jed meshu

because he’s got this show uh damn they were hot and he’s like you want to come on the yuana episode and we’ll look back

at her career and I’m like my partner would never let me do that so Luke I was there and I was loving it okay did you

guys bang we kind of did my Keck was the referee it was great yeah it’s like rule number one in an orgy no

eye contact right that’s always you know that’s always it right what happened so I saw some comedian on Tick Tock asked this he’s like what happens if you

finish first in An Origin you just gotta stand around and watch you know you know that’s getting pretty gross yeah yeah our sauce did you see that

Theo Von clip on Instagram where he interviewed that guy who said that if you died in your house and the

authorities didn’t find you that cat your cats would eat you within 24 hours and the dogs would wait a few weeks

because they love you more I don’t know how true that is he said that the cats will eat your brain within

24 hours and I can’t stop that image in my mind I can’t stop right now I might be I’m a little defensive when I see Zoe

because I know I’m going to get clawed and and bit because she’s an aggressive like Basic Instinct level lover Luke and

I can’t train it out of her because I don’t really speak cat but uh yeah that’s what’s happening I hope your cat

slashes your face that’s what’s going on Luke nothing’s right I’m uh I’m torn

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guys how exciting is this history was

made this past weekend at UFC 292 in

Boston we have a special guest here too

digest and uh look back at a totally

historic night in MMA history coach Tim

Welch thank you so much for taking your

time out of your super busy week I I

imagine there’s a bunch of stuff

happening for you this week after that

massive massive moment we saw here on

Sunday afternoon in Australia and

Saturday night in the US gotta Kick this

off by asking you this man how’s it

feeling right now that it’s kind of sunk

in it’s been just over 48 hours or so

that Shawn’s the new Undisputed champion

of the bantamweight division

yeah it really is starting to sink in

it’s pretty crazy going to the gym and

seeing that UFC belt and uh now knowing

knowing that we have a Target on our

back though pretty much the the real

hard work and discipline it starts now

because now is going to be the the Hard

Road but we’re super super pumped we’re

gonna have a proper celebration this

Saturday to celebrate the belt and uh

yeah I mean he freaking earned it I

still still can’t believe it and just so

happy

have you had a chance to sit back and

sort of appreciate the work yet

yeah after the fight we didn’t get done

he had two about two hours of media

right after the fight so we got back to

the hotel room at about 2 30 closer to

three and we just sat up till 6 30 uh 6

30 a.m smoked a joint ate some pizza

watched the fight and just talked about

it and let it soak in a bit

what was it like like

you sitting there I imagine like that’s

the crazy thing right you have such such

a like the high of highs right that

moment celebration in the media and then

it’s almost like you’re in the hotel

room just a couple of guys eating pizza

you know doing regular things and that

belt’s probably just sitting there

staring at you guys what was that moment

of almost like realization and letting

it all sink in like man we did it

after all these years we did it

yeah it was it’s so wild just I mean I

was going through a lot of stress too

because I couldn’t train Sean for that

fight how I wanted to how I knew I could

I know I could properly get him prepared

with the takedown defense with uh

developing his guard

um but we literally had to just focus on

what we could control and that was just

mitts and striking and and good footwork

and just keeping the distance and when

he gets close to the fence being so

creative and so juky with his eyes and

his the little subtle faints people

don’t even see on TV and it really froze

up Al Joe and I think aljo is used to

being about two three feet apart from a

person but Sean’s a good four feet away

from you so it’s hard to set up a

takedown when you’re four feet away from

someone

um so like I said we’re just focusing on

what we can control it was a stressful

week so to get back to the hotel and

that belt sitting there was just

probably just the biggest I can’t even

explain the emotions but a a big relief

for me that the fight was over and

that we took out that guy he’s such a

monster he’s such a beast of an athlete

so tricky what the most dangerous match

for us in the division easily because of

how big he is how strong he is and not

just how good of a wrestler he is how

good he is at Jiu Jitsu and uh knocked

him out in the second round couldn’t win

any better and still still in Cloud Nine

good unbelievable what so take us into

that environment like when sean gets

hurt and training camp we’ve had you

know that that’s and you’re like all

right he can’t really grapple I know

Sean said that for six weeks basically

he couldn’t really wrestle and you’re

going up against one of the best

wrestlers in the division a guy that’s

known for is grappling what goes through

your mind when you realize okay we’re

gonna have to edit this Camp we’re gonna

we’re gonna be able to do this aspect of

it and at any point did you think man

you know like maybe we should delay this

like maybe this isn’t maybe we should

come in at a little bit of a hundred

more percent situation than have to uh

have this big part of our game sort of

not be where it needs to be okay

uh yeah I mean I didn’t really really

mention it but that injury would have

caused probably 95 percent of people to

pull out but I I kind of was beating

around the bush a little bit but I just

was kind of getting his feel for it and

he was like no way there’s no way he’s

pulling out of the fight so I was like

well we can still do the air dying we

can still do ladder footwork drills we

can still hit mitts really hard

um we could do a lot of single leg

defense but we can’t really wrestle and

grapple but it could be worse people

there’s been Champions there’s been

people who’ve fought for the Bell or

that have fought with with worse

injuries

um the sparring wasn’t that great either

every time we were sparring we were

getting

it was mostly kickboxing

um we only got a few sparring sessions

because the fight week and the weeks

before we didn’t want to inflame that

rib at all zero see so we weren’t even

gonna test it not even in the locker

room not even fight week we were just

gonna stay away from grappling and just

focus on the footwork and keep it in his

mind that if aljo takes you down you’re

dead you’re done

so that was kind of stuck in his mind

that isn’t that insane now like you guys

didn’t know how it was going to be until

Fight Night the fact I mean it makes

sense don’t don’t inflame the rib but

it’s also insane like going to that

fight having no idea what that’s going

to feel like

yeah for sure and we’re just trying to

not inflame it at all so in his mind

maybe he’s thinking it is okay and I was

trying to put in his mind too if that

thing pops out like just try to grit

through it it’s 25 minutes of one day

grit through it and tough it out uh but

we didn’t have to go there and he did an

excellent job on the on the fence when

aljo was up

um had a good shot on him he had a

wizard wrist control defending the

single leg like it was just such a

picture-perfect crazy moment in that

Arena that it’s hard to even explain it

seems like a dream or a movie

I remember when he tweeted out uh lady

into the fod that you that um Sean could

knock out Al Joe I needed to talk to us

about that you know he was having a good

training session that day and you would

have seen something in the training

session that prompted you to put it out

now that we’re getting a little bit more

context about the kind of training camp

that you guys had and the fact that you

would have had a lot of ups and downs in

this training camp I just want to sort

of go back to that moment was that the

moment where you were like all right

we can get this done in the way that it

happened this past weekend knockout and

that was it was there something in that

moment where you found that extra

confidence all right we don’t have 100

of the game plan that we might have

usually but I see something and Sean

here where I know he’s going to stop

aljo

yeah I mean we train with such good guys

we train with such good guys that know

Sean’s trick no Sean’s tricks and

they’ve sparred with him before and

still he’s hitting these guys clean on

the chin and I know they’re better

Strikers than aljo and watching all the

footage of aljo all the mistakes he

makes on his feet

um dropping his hands he sometimes he

gets some weird scrambles and starts

running away I know for a fact that he

could crack him and we knew the whole

time that he’s gonna hurt aljo

um but he ended up hurting him uh bad

and and putting him away so

that’s it that sequence

um the sort of pullback counter was that

something specifically that you guys

trained for how like how how heavy in

the Arsenal was that as far as like

fight ending or like you know

um things that you guys thought would be

very like sort of successful in the

fight yeah because we also just to add

to that we saw you guys had the footage

in the back and if you guys actually

literally drilling that sequence

uh that literally was probably the main

sequence we drilled all fight Camp I

love fight Camp try trying to bait him

in trying to bait him into Russian in

all of his fights

he starts in a southpaw position and he

walks forward with the left hand into an

opposite stance but the problem is if

you’re not good and you’re not

good enough with your range with that

there’s a point in that in that sequence

where your feet are squared up and sugar

floated perfectly out of the way uh we

thought we throughout that fight camp we

probably did the exact same sequence

with that right hand and me walking

forward with my left hand all over like

hundreds of times hundreds of times

um

I I know Sean admitted and I really like

this that he it’s the most nervous he’s

ever been and he sort of like gave Al

Joe his flowers I can’t imagine what it

would have been like for you man what

was going through your mind making that

walk knowing what you knew knowing what

we didn’t know at the time what was

going through your mind making that

entrance uh the the more more my nerves

were the week before the week fight week

and the week before that knowing what

we’re gonna go have to do but once the

the walk once they said walk and we

started walking uh a weird sense of

calmness I know how calm he is a weird

sense of calmness for me like whatever’s

gonna happen is going to happen so the

best the best thing to do right now is

focus on what we control and that’s

staying calm staying calm and giving him

the best advice I can right now and

let’s see if we can make it happen and

he he literally is a Michael Jordan type

athlete any time we’re playing different

games like we’re playing spike ball

we’re playing honey ball we’re playing

basketball we’re any games we’re playing

you want to give Sean The Rock he’s the

play maker and for him to knowing what’s

going on for him to go in that Arena how

electric it was and for him to just stay

present and calm and nasal breathed that

whole fight and make the greatest

bantamweight of all time look that bad

it’s like he’s he’s just an incredible

athlete dude it was phenomenal you would

have also gotten a little bit more

confidence after that first round right

in the corner did you feel a little bit

more at ease like knowing that Sean you

know stuff to take Downs did what he was

supposed to do

yeah I really did feel a little bit more

at ease because I I saw how much trouble

aljo was having cutting him off and I

knew I knew probably he’s going to come

out and take a little bit more of a risk

that second round uh and like I said

taking a risk against Sean that’s why he

froze up so many good guys like I said

every fight these last probably 13

fights every single one of them the game

plan is to put Sean on the cage cut him

off and put put him on the cage and you

don’t know how hard that is until you

actually Spar him and I saw how hard it

was for aljo that first round and I just

I got a big confidence boost after that

what’s gone through your mind when you

see that sequence land in the second

round you know it’s over before the ref

has to step in

uh yeah I mean I was nervous too because

we knew we were gonna hurt aljo and

we’ve talked about it all week when you

heard him we’re gonna stay super

composed you can stay super composed so

when he heard him and he was still

moving down there a little bit I was a

little bit nervous because I know he was

emptying a lot of his a lot of his uh

tank on putting him away but then once I

talked to aljo in the cage I could see

he wasn’t all there his eyes weren’t all

there uh Sean said he saw his eyes roll

back a couple times when he was uh

bouncing his head off the canvas and he

was bloodied up and it was a good a good

stoppage it really was

yeah because it was a bit of you know

there was a bit of algebraj in the old

social media Murad was saying that he

felt like it was stopped a bit earlier

what was your reaction when you saw some

of those people some of those reactions

yeah I saw all the reactions but I

didn’t see the reaction from algo I

don’t I don’t know if he said it was

stopped early but he he didn’t seem to

be complaining at all when that ref

pulled him off Sean he seemed to be like

thank God that’s over and you saw

it happen to Thomas Almeida Thomas

Almeida took some serious brain damage

got some a lot of swelling in his brain

and is he’s probably gonna have a CTE

from that fight so if they would have

kept let it going Let It Go who knows he

could have gotten knocked out cold worse

than Marlon Marias and that would have

been a bad bad night so it was a good

job by the ref in my opinion

a win like that I mean it really

couldn’t have gone any better right and

like the the injury in the background

kind of makes it even more

um just incredible for anyone prior that

thought you know what I’m just gonna

take Sean down and like that’ll be sort

of his Kryptonite similar to like with

Israel sort of earlier on in his career

what what kind of message do you think

this sends to everybody in the division

and like I think you you guys mentioned

like this is the hardest stylistic

matchup in the division going forward

what kind of message do you think this

sends to anybody else in the division

who thinks oh you know I’m just gonna uh

cut Sean off and you know try and take

him down I think if you got a real

special Striker like someone like Izzy

or Volk or these guys they see Sean and

they’re like wow like he is a problem

but then you have stupid people like

Henry sujudo and stuff that think

they’re just gonna go in there and kick

his legs and they’re gonna take him down

easy and uh that’s all you got to do is

just kick his legs and pressure them and

then uh I think marab too I I think that

might have put a little fear in morab

also because morab makes a lot of those

mistakes too yes he’s got a scary scary

gas tank he’s going to come forward the

whole time but he reaches and he does a

lot of bad stuff fundamentally too so

if that fight happens eventually he’ll

probably knock marab out too but I think

to to actual skilled Fighters that can

see it they they see how dangerous he is

I saw um sehuda he’s trying to call out

obviously Sean to fight what what are

you making of some of this campaign that

he’s sort of driving on social media

trying to get the fight with you guys

I mean I I would I would like to see the

fight I would like to see the fight but

it’s gonna be it’ll be sad for suhuto

because he’s got such a good Legacy he’s

got the two belts the Olympic champion

and now if he has to end his career

getting knocked out

cold by the kid with pink hair and now

he’s got to go into retirement and every

time he tweets something every time he

says something people are just gonna

flood flood it with uh him getting ko’d

uh

yeah I don’t know we we offered on the

podcast too we could help see hudo he

could come to our gym and help him with

some footwork and stuff we could help

him with his help him with his tactics

maybe help him with his takedown defense

because when aljo put Henry on the cage

he took uh Henry down when the uh aljo

put sugar on the cage fresh he couldn’t

take sugar down so be open to help uh

help Henry with some of his skills wow

so there’s an open invitation right now

that stands right now Henry’s welcome to

come and learn some stuff from you guys

yeah I mean we could we could help him

out he’s a he’s a smaller guys could

help him out with his his techniques

um hey the other thing is and this is

obviously the wind was unbelievable the

way that it happened the story you guys

getting into the UFC your journey

together but the other thing is

not only does Sean have the title but

he’s got a great amount of challenges

for him and a lot of great fights that

people want to see which doesn’t always

happen because a lot of the times when

people win titles in the UFC they kind

of have to beat all the best contenders

to get there and then we struggle

finding good matchups for them people

are looking at the division right now

they’re looking at morab uh Cheeto

sanhagen sahudo maybe aljo if he comes

back and fights again and they’re

talking about this is one of the

toughest divisions toughest top sixes in

the UFC rankings right now what’s your

reaction to not only being in this

position where you guys have the title

but also being in this position where

there’s literally like so many different

fights that could be made that people

want to tune in for

yeah like I said I mean all jokes aside

all those guys are are killers like

Corey sanag and he’s a nightmare Cheetos

so durable tough he kicks really hard

Henry Sudo is a stud he can wrestle good

he’s he has great conditioning all these

guys are beasts and anything can happen

in fighting so in my mind right now I’m

just we’re gonna enjoy this week enjoy

this weekend but we got to get back to

work there’s still so much growth that

Sean can have he’s not near his

potential right now

um so there’s so much work we still have

to do and the hard works and discipline

really has to start now I’ve got to also

ask about algae obviously the guy is

super classy man the way that he handled

that loss and the way that he spoke at

the press conference was super inspiring

and adds to his legacy for sure but do

you think we see him fight Sean again in

a rematch down the line I know like he

said that he’s probably not going to be

moving to featherweight now he’s

probably not going to be fighting

Arsenal kanovski not going to be trying

to get that fight do you think he works

his way into another rematch with Sean

do you think that’s a rematch that goes

much differently

uh I mean potentially but maybe the UFC

looks at that and they’re like aljo was

probably going to move to 145 and and

looking at him in the cage I was like

damn this guy this guy’s big and strong

like strong

um so it’s it’s hard to say but he said

he is a great champion and he was so

humble it was hard for us to talk any

on aljo because we generally know

he’s probably a nice guy and we’d

probably be friends with him

um and he handled it like a champ I mean

if he put a get put together a win win

or something I wouldn’t be surprised if

they made it again potentially uh do I

think it’d be different I just don’t

know

truly I know everyone around him’s like

yeah the rematch rematch but in aljo’s

mind does he want the rematch I’m I’m

not sure because you get in front of

someone like Sean that you’ve never been

in front of someone like that and they

never made you feel like that uh you

might be hesitant to want to fight him

again

I’d love to see him on on the show man

on the timber sugar show I think that’d

be awesome I think that’ll be also sick

for him as well like to come on so soon

like after the loss and just kind of

like you know chatted up now that like

all the fight promotions done and in the

rear view don’t you think yeah my that’s

funny my girlfriend literally just said

that yesterday she’s like you should

have him on your podcast and just talk

about like his life and his routines

because like I said he seems like he’s

genuinely a good guy and the crowd the

crowd hates him and I think he tries to

put on this character and the crowd can

see that’s not really him and that’s why

he gets so much hate so I like that idea

and he probably would come on so that’d

be cool he’s a great dude I don’t know

him personally or anything but like the

few times we’ve spoken he is a great

dude

um as for in terms of like what’s next

you reckon Cheeto most likely it seems

to be you you whispered something into

Sean’s ear when he was on the mic was

that sort of to call that Cheeto yeah I

messed up I met I messed up because he

he wanted to he wanted to call out

Javonte and get a big boxing match a big

boxing match with Javonte a big boxing

match with uh Floyd but I don’t know

he’ll probably sit down with the UFC and

just figure out what’s the biggest fight

to make right now what’s the biggest

fight what’s going to bring the most

numbers try to get on the Conor McGregor

um card and make some make some real

bread so yeah Javonte Davis man that

would be a crazy crazy crazy fight when

did you guys start thinking about

potentially getting that together

because that that could really be one of

the one of the big big pay-per-view

events of quite some time

that’s been that’s been in our mind for

probably three years or more three years

or more knowing that he’s going to want

a big boxing fight one day because Sean

can box he can box a lot of rounds he

has I think he’s

is he too no professional boxer with

might be 1-0 but with a nasty KO

um he can box and people are just think

we’re so stupid for saying that but if

he goes out there and he puts his hands

on gervante

and then people are just gonna be like

well yeah but it’s just like it’s never

ending with with people and how stupid

they are but uh I mean why not Javonte

is a little short dude Sean is an expert

at range and we know gervante is a

monster it would not be an easy fight

but give us four or five months to to

focus completely on boxing and uh I

think it’d be more competitive than

people think and is this something that

the UFC’s open to like have you heard

back from them obviously a huge huge

collab between them but uh we know

they’re also hesitant to uh collab with

other promotions

I mean if it makes sense for Dana and it

makes sense for to make a lot of money

then I’m sure they’ll be on board like

Sean has one of the best relationships

with the UFC they love him he loves them

um so whatever’s the best business deal

whatever’s going to be a huge huge fight

that people want to see they’ll they’ll

probably be interested in it hell yeah

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but Tim going back to you man and we’ll

let you go in a second but I’ve been

wanting to ask you this for a while just

because the the cheetah rematch is the

most likely um you know next one that’s

gonna happen and you guys would have had

a long time to sort of go over that

fight go over that first one and think

about it and see what you guys would do

differently I am curious what would you

guys most likely do differently and what

will be the the biggest sort of

Difference Maker

um if and when they finally have the

long way to rematch

uh yeah it would be in a big cage it

would be in a big cage and it would

probably look a lot it’s going to look a

lot similar to how Cheeto looked versus

Corey sandhagen Cheeto stands there

flat-footed he’s gonna I mean his

biggest weapon is he yeah he does kick

pretty hard he has hard shins so he’s

gonna kick hard but realistically over

five rounds

man he’s gonna have to really get lucky

again but again cheeto’s super tough

when we were definitely not going to

take him lightly and we’re going to

train for real as hard as we can for

Cheeto and prepare for a war against

that guy but

I I just I just really see Sean knocking

him out especially if that the same

Cheeto shows up that fought Pedro and

the same Cheeto shows up that fought

Corey sandhagen

um he’s gonna probably

it’s probably going to be a paint job

well I’ll tell you what man I’m excited

to be in the sugar air congratulations

again and by the way UFC throwing up the

fight on YouTube basically right after

it finishes and Instagram as well with

the Finish yeah that was crazy

yeah uh one of the me the guys that were

doing the social media back uh backstage

he said yeah Dana and the higher-ups

have never done this they said let it

rip throw it out there on everything who

cares let it rip so did they say why

I I don’t know probably just they they

know just all the social media

um all the influencers are behind Sean

all these people probably just to make

him more of a superstar

tell you what uh it’s like John Berthold

and the Bear right let it rip guys make

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well at Tim Welch Mt man so much going

on for you guys so happy for you guys so

excited thanks so much for taking the

time Tim and enjoy those celebrations

man long overdue have a big one hey

thanks so much guys I’ll talk to you

soon

oh God yeah my my neck finally feels

free for once no one’s breathing down it

you know telling me to do this telling

me to do that it’s kind of feel like we

can just do it without them I mean the

response was great I mean I think we

look good the caricatures I mean yeah

beautiful low low maintenance easy

breezy easy I’ve been in that chair

before now we’re sharing and you’re in

the big chair and I think you look at

home there uh yeah it’s nice it’s nice

to not have it this isn’t that hard dude

I mean this is people give him a lot of

things easy do you feel like dare I say

dare I say it’s uh it’s easy yeah I mean

don’t want to give me the old ball a

little bit don’t yeah yeah yeah go ahead

I already ordered the margarita machine

oh no we can’t do it let’s go I mean

you’ve been pushing for that margarita

machine forever I mean three o’clock

yeah can we can we all give ourselves

the old Barry H the old Barry Horowitz

here just a nice little pat on the back

I mean good job everyone Frankie happy

hour

backstabbing [ __ ] what is that

backstabbing [ __ ] he wasn’t

supposed to be so nice oh well would you

look at this you know I wanted to come

on here with my Black Pencil by the way

to know yeah the dark day that this is

yes I switched it up for all of you to

note that this is such a dark day but

there’s so many good vibes there’s been

like four Mensch references already on

yeah what is this how did you even get

indoor into our our Mainframe how did

you hack the system what is this well

you didn’t even have any music or

anything ready like we were supposed to

be like well oh by God that’s that’s how

juani’s music I mean no we crash we

crashed the party that’s what we do

that’s the kind of entrance that we have

you guys look fantastic I must I’m

sitting here like a proud father I

didn’t even want to crash the party

because I was having so much fun except

for that little bit at the end there but

you know you guys not having anyone

breathing down your neck uh I’m watching

this like a proud father I may never

come back I’ve seen some of the comments

by the way oh yeah I think we’re cool

you know I may never come back and enjoy

it enjoy enjoy vacation enjoy the fruits

of your labor I gotta say it’s a little

different when you can just spit you

know me me and Connor sitting in the

chairs and spitting the guest booking

part that’s a little bit more difficult

that maybe I don’t know listen quite a

few people were saying

quite a few people were like uh where’s

the lineup who are the guests uh well it

turns out our guest Booker is also on

vacation as well uh not not as easy as

it seems not quite as easy as it seems

first of all you guys are doing

fantastic this is one of the proudest

days of my life this is what I’ve always

wanted for the show to kind of exist

um with the people who are part of the

show and me not be able to be there so

this is tremendous it’s only happened

once before and coincidentally it was

back in 2016

October 31st 2016 when I had just

welcomed my third child to the world and

now here’s New York Rick welcoming his

third child of the world the second time

that he does it with GC in the chair for

the first time I mean this is Kismet my

friends this is crazy so this is a

beautiful thing that just transpired

first off muzzle well first I’ve been

here for like three minutes I just said

first off uh muzzle Tov to both you and

Holly I hope everyone’s doing great two

girls and a boy tremendous I have two

boys and a girl it’s great to have the

the mix and I couldn’t be happier for

you guys and uh shout out to you for not

only working on Saturday but showing up

on uh on this Monday afternoon to do

this that’s incredible so you have a

very supportive wife and shout out to GC

looking great in the Plaid got the big

boy chair tremendous intro thank you

thank you I appreciate it I have to say

I I actually had to go out and get this

I mean I don’t want to rip on you or

anything but uh went to Old Navy went to

the clearance rack I mean in 1999

the inspiration too I mean if we can I

believe we have it uh yep there it is

just uh a little helwani inspired shirt

I mean

pretty much matches it got this thing on

clearance I mean they couldn’t they

couldn’t give this thing away fast

enough I had the I lost the watch the

the bracelets the wristbands I mean I am

just I am fully drip free now I am uh

you know I have a confession classes too

right glasses I usually wear glasses

Yeah well yeah oh yeah yeah yeah I have

a confession I also have that shirt and

in fact famously I don’t know since the

starchy this just came to mind I believe

last time one of the last times that

Ariel and I were at an event it was in

Chicago and we were at media day and I

believe we both coincidentally wore that

shirt that he was wearing in that photo

I also wore a similar shirt Nabi of

ufcpr took a picture of the two of us

doing a little bit of a twinning thing

so fortunately we’re not all three

coordinated today it’ll be a little too

matchy-matchy yeah helwani not in in I

know what is it what is happening it’s

Bizarro world yes uh guys vacation now

why do you know yourself you know can we

break the fourth wall on vacation yeah

what have you been up to man we see you

posting you know it’s just like good

morning and you’re ziplining it feels

like The Vibes are Immaculate can we

really break the floor and like he’s

he’s almost like vacation shaming us you

know he’s just like uh hold on let me

get back to you guys in just a minute

just gotta Park my ATV I’ve been

four-wheeling oh sorry guys like uh just

just got out of the water like it’s it’s

nice yeah I mean it’s ready for three on

oh there I am yes there’s Claire and I

um we went ATV riding earlier today I

mean I I like I said to you guys on text

I couldn’t feel further away from our

studio right now uh oh yeah it must be

nice it must be nice man because we’re

in the trenches right now we are we are

anxious I’m happy someone is I’m happy

someone is as you can see in those

photos uh Claire who is riding shotgun

with me uh she’s got some uh grapes in

her hand I mean she’s living the life we

got very dusty so I had to go take a

nice little bubble bath now to clean

myself up

in the in the bubble bath yeah of course

champagne champagne on Ice uh next to it

absolutely absolutely I’m missing dinner

right now to do this a little bit

didn’t you

again

look at the form and I had to go with my

daughter because uh she’s not uh she

doesn’t weigh enough you have to weigh I

think you have to weigh like

at least 180 combined or something like

that so we had to do it uh my mom took

that and I have to say my heart was

beating so fast my Palms were I mean it

was it was one of the scariest things

and that was a lot I mean that was like

a good 30 seconds that I just kept

saying to her I love you Claire I love

you Claire she was just laughing yeah

she’s not nervous at all she’s not

nervous at all she’s ready to go and how

excited were you by the end that you did

it

by the end I I I felt like I had truly

well today I zip lined and I ATV rode

for the first time in my life both of

those for the first time in my life so I

really feel like I’m living it up I’m

yoloing it up uh I’m doing big things so

I’m very happy but I’m I’m happy that

the show is going on and of course as

you can tell uh over the weekend I I was

keeping an eye on UFC 192. I don’t know

how you guys do it so not not much of it

yeah there you go you know what I was

thinking it’s so funny you say that I

was trying to see if I’m truly getting

old and I was trying this morning to

remember what 192 was and I finally

figured it out it took me longer than

usual uh DC Gustafson in Houston I

remember I actually that was one that I

would have known

yeah so I was just trying to compare you

know where we are a hundred

pay-per-views later but yes 292. I don’t

know how you guys watch them

um in the middle of the night all the

fans overseas you guys are incredible I

don’t know how you’re fans of the sport

watching things at like five six seven

a.m I just wanted to throw out some

quick thoughts and then I’m gonna leave

it all to you guys because I want to sit

back and relax and watch this and uh

enjoy it and download it and follow and

rate review and comment and all those

things

yeah uh I’d be lying if I didn’t say

that the first thing that came to mind

was like ah damn I this you know most

pay-per-views uh they’re tough to book

this would have been a relatively easy

one to book you know Sean O’Malley Tim

Welch uh Ian Gary uh a brad Katona uh

Cheeto Vera a patron like I could have

gone five six deep on this post

pay-per-view

I really know I actually did think no on

vacation no I don’t think you were

taking anything I was thinking of you uh

like yesterday morning I was like man I

wonder if there’s a little bit of

helwani I know he’s enjoying vacation

but I wonder if there’s a little bit of

him that’s like man we we could have had

a spectacular show uh on this post

pay-per-view Monday

not a little bit a lot of it I mean that

was the first thing in fact I actually

apologized to some people uh I’m sure

you’re wondering why I’m not asking you

to come on it’s because of this reason

I’m not in studio on Monday so I I just

was like damn uh that would have been

that would have been good but anyway

um I will be back soon so I want to give

obviously massive props to Sean O’Malley

what a walkout what a song Choice when

you walk out to to that song they say

you uh I have no idea who sings it but I

was like I want to listen to that I’m

like there it is yeah I was like man

this guy is calling his shot uh and then

you find out I spoke briefly to uh to

Tim Welch um afterwards he said it was

their worst Camp ever and he could

hardly grapple the same stuff that they

said afterwards as well so I was like

damn

um talk about having you know confidence

and self-belief so uh congratulations to

him you know you could say what you want

about the road to get to the Belt you

could say what you want about him not

fighting since October you could say

what you want about the resume you can’t

can’t say anything about who he beat and

how he beat him and to me

knocking out

tkoing in the second round after that

very close first round algeman Sterling

of all people who was on one of the

great runs in the history of the

bantamweight division uh to do that

erases any doubt that you can have like

that guy earned that belt

um you know we talked and I talked about

it he had not fought in 11 months maybe

the resume wasn’t as good but like you

do that to algae made Sterling you

deserve to be a champion of the world

there are no knocks that could be made

about that guy in my opinion that was

supremely impressive that doesn’t happen

every day look at the guys that Alex

made beat Corey sandhagen to the world

the Peter Johns of the world the TJ Jill

stars of the world on and on it goes and

aljo got knocked out tko’d by Sean

O’Malley beautiful sequence

um those clips of him in the locker room

practicing are just tremendous and you

knew that that was good the way in which

he was going to win the fight so that’s

incredible unfortunately for Al Jermaine

I I don’t think he’s going to get an

immediate rematch

um obviously Sam Higgins there obviously

maraba is there but if sugar Sean truly

wants to come back in December the fight

has to be Cheeto that would be a massive

co-main event to I would think either a

leon Colby in December or uh Yuri Alex

depending on what they do maybe they

bump Yuri Alex to January and just leave

Jon Jones in November it’s come out that

Jon Jones doesn’t want to be on the same

card as Colby because of their history

and the things that Colby has said about

him so it’s going to be interesting but

if he truly does want to fight in

December and San Hagan is out and marab

is out then I think you do the Cheeto

fight so um and I think aljo should

probably stay at 135 if you ask me

because

yeah

would you potentially think about trying

to give O’Malley a headlining show on

the back of this and I asked that for

the reason

they posted a finish from a pay-per-view

Min event which is something that is not

done right they are clearly giving Sean

O’Malley the big push now as champion

and I believe that YouTube video had

like 4.7 million views overnight all the

social media attraction is there a

possibility that you’re kind of

diminishing that and not taking

advantage of what they’re trying to

build by not having him in a main event

by having him potentially as a Coman

see you’re on your game I’m off my game

you’re a thousand percent right the

reason I just went to to Coleman event

was because of the 135 thing and I was

thinking heavier weight class Shawn

O’Malley’s one of the biggest stars in

the sport right now you could see the

explosion you can see everyone tweeting

talking about a KD it’s all over the

place they posted it on social they

posted it on YouTube one million percent

the next time that was the stupidest

thing I’ve ever said one million percent

the next time he fights he should

headline of course he should headline

even if it’s against Alex or now Leon

Colby I could see them maybe giving

those guys the respect but like he is a

true blue headliner and a massive star

and deserves all that praise and

connects with younger fans so yes

absolutely I just don’t think you know I

see aljo kind of campaigning a little

bit I don’t think it’s gonna happen I

don’t think he’s going to get into me to

reimage unfortunately the timing is is

what becomes the issue here they’ve got

these fights that are that they need to

make they’ve got Colby and Leon on Deck

they got Yuri and Alex they have to kind

of squeeze these in they’ve got Connor

and Mike in the wings they’ve they’ve

got all these that they have to squeeze

in so there is going to be some some

ones that could have been potentially

Headliners that get turned into co-main

and so I get where the the thought is

and I get where the intention is but

looking at the way they hard pushed Sean

O’Malley after this event it feels like

they have to put him in the main he has

to have a card it has to be the O’Malley

card

and and you’re 100 right and I don’t

have an issue other than maybe if I

bought the pay-per-view and I’m like

damn you posted this five minutes later

like this is the stuff that they should

do this is how you build stars like

people are like oh look at them favoring

Sean O’Malley like no that’s what you

should do when you have a superstar on

your hands you should put the entire

fight on SportsCenter you should put it

on YouTube you should put it on social

let the world know who this guy is

because he’s that damn good and that

damn entertaining and he deserves all of

that by the way the Finish was 100 on

point mark Goddard doesn’t deserve any

criticism there and the dynamic between

shoda and Cheeto is fantastic like those

two guys with their fan bases they’re

amazing I’m just blowing by Frank’s

thing because we don’t have a lot of

time to go back and forth there

um

I saw some people talking about that

that’s just silly okay so Sean O’Malley

Superstar he called it you feel for Al

Joe he comes back the guy fought three

times in less than a year he he he just

fought in May tough you know tough hand

to to play with and he was a stud going

in and an absolute Class Act going out

and uh he’s not done by any stretch and

he’ll be back he’ll be back at the title

picture as well I just don’t think he

gets it immediately because of the

history with Cheeto uh jeanway lee is

incredible I would do the Tatiana fight

right now what are we waiting for all

due respect to Yan Chao Nan if I’m her I

let them to beat each other up and then

I fight the winner if they have the

China thing planned obviously it makes

more sense to do that fight there but uh

to me why are we delaying the inevitable

Tatiana versus John Wayne Lee is one of

the best female title fights that they

can make curated in the history of the

UFC dating back to 2013 when Rhonda

debuted I want to see that fight it

feels inevitable that Tatiana is going

to fight for the ball what are we doing

beating around the bush especially with

their health issues let’s go let’s do it

right now that’s my take on the come

Main Event Ian Gary talking about

someone who called his shot unbelievable

like what he put out there and then

doing that thing on Friday and like

you’re like man if if you slip up you

are going to get killed for those that

missed there was an open workout at a

bar he was basically at a bar doing

agreed and he’s working out in the bar

full pads doing the whole thing letting

people know I’m here I’m here in Boston

also somewhere we’re working out no ring

no anything in there like they just

cleared the people out and he was just

front and center in the bar working out

on the floor with people

he’s doing a brilliant job and uh he’s

really getting people behind him I would

put him in Dublin next this to me feels

like like

there’s one more and then you’re in the

title picture for you and Gary what are

you waiting for

them put him in the Dublin put it in the

top five Dublin fight now yeah and have

him headline and then have him be in the

title picture next year but maybe it’s

too late maybe it’s too late in the game

to book that it seems like Dana White is

alluding to wanting him in New York

they’ve they’ve kind of Dana has alluded

to like I have laid out the blueprint

for building the Irish star it’s going

to be New York and then maybe headlining

Dublin that and Gary said I’d rather

fight in Vegas Texas high in New York

but it seems like that we might be

seeing Ian later this year and then and

then maybe Dublin and all six of his UFC

fights so far have have been in the

states yes

crazy to see him yeah which is which is

crazy right because uh he could have

fought in London no he he’s done a

tremendous job

I didn’t love the stuff with Neil and

the kid and all that I get like I don’t

know Neil magni seems like one of the

most liked fighters in the UFC scumbag

middle finger yeah uh I didn’t love it

but uh look he’s hyped up he’s young and

he was grabbing onto something and uh he

delivered like I mean that was as

dominant as can be it gets a really

tough guy to be dominant again so he is

a superstar as well and he has called

every you know like to have that

confidence and back it up every step of

the way and the amazing thing about him

is his first couple UFC fights it was

kind of like a little come see comes out

like he got rocked the opponents weren’t

tremendous you were like okay let’s see

if he is truly something to write home

about and now as the competition has

gotten better he gets better which is

amazing right like d-rod Neil like he

continues to get better so I can’t wait

to see him in Dublin and nmsg of course

would make a lot of sense him versus

Wonder Boys seems to be the direction

but let’s see what ultimately happens uh

spoke about someone a little longer uh I

wanted to propose something you feel

free to disagree it seemed seems like he

has the momentum that maybe Patty kind

of had initially it seems like he’s kind

of taken the Baton and run with that

with especially the level of activity

especially the way much obviously the

comparisons of Conor is never going to

go away and that’s what it’s going to be

but calling your shot now delivering

absolutely dominating Neil magni having

the next step in mind right now he wants

Wonder Boy he’s very he seems very sure

very focused has the path kind of laid

out for him and soon if he’s headlining

in Dublin I feel like the roof comes off

his potential right he becomes one of

the biggest stars in the sport the way

O’Malley has also kind of called his

shot and called his path along the way

it seems like he’s the guy who has that

momentum whereas if you if you ask me

early on it seemed like it would have

been Paddy right and now I feel like

with the injury with the split decision

against jargorn he’s kind of cooled and

he and Gary has slid very much into that

spot where he’s taking the Baton and

running with it

100 obviously the fan bases are a little

different right UK versus Ireland but he

is past Patty at this point in terms of

strength to schedule like Patty doesn’t

have a Neil magdi yeah on his uh resume

and he you know Jared Gordon d-rod maybe

you give Gordon a bit of the nudge there

like the nod in terms of like who’s

better and who’s more accomplished but

he doesn’t have a Neil magni type so yes

at this point I would say and you know

everything he’s doing with his social

media and all that

um you know he’s really he’s really

making a strong push so credit to him um

thrill for Cheeto obviously we love

Cheeto here and he bounced back in a big

way against a tough opponent and if he

like who would have thought back in

March when he’s losing to Corey

sandhagen like that that he could be

fighting for the belt in December uh

that’s a crazy turn of events 135 is

just bananas but it’s completely opened

up now including for the likes of Pierre

Young Who felt like he was in purgatory

now all of a sudden you know Jan could

say like hey let me run it back or if

Cheeto wins or if San Diego wins John

could be like yo what about me so that’s

um you know that’s obviously a great

thing you know I’ll let you guys talk

about tough congratulations to the

winners it is a little weird that

there’s a two-time winner now like what

did we really accomplish we already knew

he was an Ultimate Fighter winner yeah

it’s a little bit weird do you think

team McGregor won I mean Brad Katona

winner of 135 hollaba winner of 155

that’s 1-1 team Chandler team McGregor

and then the coach’s challenge team

McGregor won okay but sure right here’s

the thing

and correct me if I’m wrong you would

know this better than me was Katona not

team Chandler switch if you want to play

technicalities but what color was he

wearing when he got to Hoist the clear

glasses

he was always SBG my biggest issue with

it is that they didn’t they didn’t bring

out his original tough trophy that they

didn’t give him the double trophies

for that moment they stole them MSG yeah

100 like you had a historic moment and

you weren’t ready for it I cannot wait

to sit back and hear you dissect and I

hope I don’t even know what you had

planned for the show to be honest but I

need a full breakdown of that six minute

uh voice note that he left yesterday I

mean I listened to it three times it was

unbelievable like the way at one point

when he’s talking about Brad like I’d

like to know like where you got the

motivation now and all this stuff like

it’s just the whole thing is riveting

obviously the the top story is him

saying December 16th no no dice anymore

which I think we all kind of saw coming

but uh I can’t wait for that breakdown

one last thing and then I’m Gonna Leave

You guys alone please much love to Chris

Weidman to come back after two and a

half years and and to just step foot in

the Octagon after that injury is is

nothing short of amazing one of the true

good guys in the history of this sport

broke my heart Brad Tavares did nothing

wrong he did what he had to do to win

but let’s let Chris Weidman decide when

it’s time to go remember he was getting

knocked out he wasn’t getting outclassed

that’s a massive massive massive entry

that he just had to overcome and it

involved multiple surgeries I think he

deserves one more chance

um and if it’s on in the UFC then you

know God Bless but I I don’t think that

Chris Weidman I don’t think it’s fair to

come back after a two and a half year

surgery to fight all the way back and

lose to his solid veteran who had a

great game plan and then be told it’s

time to hang it up I don’t think on that

night Chris Weidman deserved that and I

don’t think that Dana White was being

malicious I don’t want this to come

across as being malicious I think it

actually came from a place of care and

love because he likes Chris as he said

in his family and Matt Sarah and all

those guys but I think Chris deserves

another crack and I don’t think on that

night he deserved any of that rhetoric

so I was happy to see him back I was

bummed for him that it didn’t work out

Tavares had a great game plan and he did

what he had to do to win and I hope that

Chris you know isn’t uh isn’t too down

right now because just coming back to me

is a victory in its own right I know

that’s not what he wanted but to come

all the way back from that is is truly

one of the most amazing things that

we’ve seen because it was it ended up

being worse than the Anderson injury

um because he had to have multiple

surgeries and things were going wrong so

much love to Chris Weidman one of the

great guys and uh much love to you guys

you guys are doing things can I just sit

back and watch the show now because like

yeah go to YouTube go to your your

restaurant your Michelin star restaurant

enjoy enjoy your dinner uh enjoy diving

yeah whatever else yeah whatever

Adventures I mean this this man like

he’s he’s too afraid to touch a door

handle when we’re in the office because

of the germs but now you’re ATV your

your zip lining I mean it’s it’s

unbelievable hey

shout out to my guy Danny Rick for the

uh the sweatshirt you guys know what FEA

stands for no tell me

Walter close your ears

hey

uh before I let you go last note though

that was that would have been a nice

outro the pencil thing is great yeah I

feel like I feel like I’m conducting a

conversation over here and I got plenty

of them I mean you’re gonna come back

you’re going to have plenty of pencils I

mean look at this thing I mean I’m I’m

ready to roll on some UFC 292 talk I

mean this and that and bang and boom I

mean we’re we’re ready to roll here

number twos uh it’s a Condor Road why

does this hotel

Six Flags number two pencils right in

front of me it’s bizarre leaving you uh

leaving you a sharpener as well that’s

on the house don’t even worry about

venmo thank you that’s fine thank you

you must say we’ve improved the space no

like I feel like no this is frustration

the renovation has been great great I

don’t know if I ever want to come back

if I’m being honest today when we see

you man maybe just next time you’re in

New York hit us up maybe we can have you

in studio get some darts going

yeah love you guys see you when we do a

great job Mazel Tov to the family Rick

GC you’re killing it everyone’s killing

it back there I actually do miss you

guys uh I’m I I can’t like I said I

cannot feel further away from the studio

but this is a treat for me to sit back

and relax and watch an episode and I’ll

be back in two weeks have a great rest

of the show much love to the chat I love

you all

to the chat we’ll see you uh in

September peace I’m out of here take

care guys

wow what a treat that was there we go uh

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hope he is enjoying that vacation and

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well hello to everyone it is Wednesday and we do have fights today so we’re

going to talk about the pfl we got that coming up we’ve got the UFC with one of my favorite Fighters Max Holloway going

at it that’s going to be an incredible fight between him and the Korean zombie but we got all kinds of things outside

of the world of fighting well I guess kind of attached to fighting I don’t know so much stuff going on you’re

you’re all the way look at you you’re reminiscing of California with your your Bellator Long Beach shirt on very famous

shirts I thought they did a great job I thought they did a great job of making this show they did it’s a good with the sunset kind of looking thing it’s kind

of cool I like it it’s pretty nice that actually that one right behind my shoulder that way is my favorite shirt

that’s from Fort Lauderdale that way yeah that one right there oh I know you like that one that one is not you put it

on the black light and it pops real well I like it not that I hang out in black lights or anything but you know I will

obviously somebody does pretty cool shirt man it’s a pretty cool shirt that one and this one these are my two favorites I mean I’ve got a bunch of

other ones they just came out with the Chicago one right the one we last time we were in Chicago and it just looked like the Chicago

Bulls logo and I was like yeah yeah yeah it wasn’t too good it was all right it was like you know but it was it was nice

it was both sides oh man hey John Chicago was one of those towns that like the first time I went the first time I’d

ever been to Chicago is when I fought Benson Henderson like eight weeks before yeah it’s the first time I’ve ever been and uh I have been in the airport but

I’ve never been like in the town or in the city and so when I fought Benson they took us out there eight weeks before to promote the

fight radio stations you know meet and greets all that stuff anyways I was like man I was really mesmerized

with how beautiful it was it’s beautiful people were nice food is [ __ ] awesome

food’s great the food is food’s good um you know it was really when I but

then when I went back for the fight it was miserably cold miserably cold it was in January yes it was a lot of fun I

still had fun you know uh it was a great spot dude I you know I remember before

that fight with you and the best I rounded the corner of this building and I’m walking in it’s all icy

everywhere and everything and I round the corner and the wind just hits you

and I’m like start to walk in it I said no [ __ ] that and I start to turn around but as I turn around now it’s pushing me

and I’m ice skating it’s just making me slice I was like this is not good and I

can’t even go the way I want to go the same exact thing happened to me after the fight so I’ve got my little Sling from my wrist and my my hand being all

[ __ ] up so I’m gonna sling and I’m trying to cross the street we’re trying to get to a diner it’s like two blocks down so we walk two blocks but the the

buildings were blocking a lot of the Wind but then when we came straight where the the street went through

man we tried to cross the crosswalk it pushed us on the downhill a little bit and absolutely yeah we were trying to it

was almost like trying to swim across a river you know yeah yeah so we were just we were getting pushed down as we were

trying to get across we just kept trying to move forward move forward finally got to the next block and we’re able to get across there to walk up the icy sidewalk

to get up to the restaurant we need to get to but it was pretty funny dangerous but funny

um Chicago’s Chicago Chicago is a great place though it really is yeah if someone’s never been there they got to

go in the food I will say it’s got some of the best food of any place I’ve ever had dudes I just think people need to do

themselves a favor turn the [ __ ] TV then the news off and you’ll actually go to these places

and be like wow this place is really nice if I was to ever listen to the news I

don’t but if I was there or listening to the news I mean I get small Clips on my social

that pop up and it’s like it’s there they talk like it’s the worst place in the country to live it might have it

might have some its own problems but every [ __ ] city does you know and

uh from out like every time I’ve been there the people have been nice the food’s been amazing the restaurant’s been nice hotels have been nice wherever

it is I mean everywhere I’ve gone throughout that City it’s been it’s been fabulous and I got nothing bad to say

about it yeah fantastic I agree what the hell is that noise John talk to me please

it is I want you to see this because it’s oh they’re away just drawn into you see

that cool light they are mesmerized it’s like stay away from the light zip John I

have you mentioned it yeah I was like I was like okay okay like four or five the whole show like four or five

something blew up I thought someone was toenails I mean these little tiny gnats

and I was like I can’t take it I got it in here it’s gonna be a good show

instead of those things flying in front of my face I was the last show I was like what the hell happening here it was

like because of one of the the sodas or something I don’t know but because I don’t have any food in here huh don’t

know I must have left to open monster I think it’s one of the ones that blew up probably from what do they call it

they’re called like uh sugar flies or what fruit flies yeah yeah yeah all right well I can tell

you right now they are all dying that’s very mean so every time you

hear that I think another one goes down yeah

um all right well let’s uh let’s go ahead and start rolling into these this fight card man there’s a lot going on this weekend uh we got the pfl we got

some boxing we got the UFC uh we got a little bit of drama at the uh Jake Paul Dylan danis along with figuring out who

the alternate is which is I think is fantastic I wish we could just push Dylan right out of the position and just

put Platinum Mike Perry right there that’d be awesome because I’d love to see that fight more so and I think if Platinum

Mike Perry was to fight Logan Paul I think he’d [ __ ] him up I think he’d [ __ ] him up I don’t think I

I think I’m looking forward to seeing that fight hopefully I mean look if history

now you want Dylan to pull out let’s follow the agenda here hey hey who’s up

who do you think you are silence silence silence

no I get it um all right look what we’ll talk more about it you’re right we’ll go

back more about that let’s you got the pfl here tonight we got the pfl it is

the playoffs as they call it and this is to go into I think their next show isn’t until November though but that would be

their their Championship run with their million dollar payoffs and stuff but you got the main event is obviously it was

kind of set up a little bit people I know people were upset about it I wasn’t on honestly but they they took points

away from a fighter based upon the performance which made Shane Burgos who they had brought in as knowing one of

their you know main attractions uh for the new signings and uh he lost his first fight to Olivier Obin Mercier you

know got a very tough win against a tough young opponent from Japan and then they put him into the finals against the

number one seed in clay Collard against Shane Burgos who’s the number four seed

but this is a great fight Johnny’s this is a fight you want to watch just hear what you just did for about a minute and

20 seconds that’s why [ __ ] people don’t watch the pfl it was way too [ __ ] much to describe

how these guys got into the into the playoffs it was just too much what I’m sorry the best fighter needs to get into

the playoffs and the guy who won and the other best fighters get in the playoffs and they need to fight that’s what it needs to happen now the

other two the ones it that basically when people it’s so funny because when we talked to I I did that whole nation

yeah he’s the one that got uh do you remember I did that I did I did something talking about how Fighters

were skewing uh they could potentially skew um their their opponents and they could

find ways to Buck the system with the betting lines and all this other stuff and this is exactly what I’m talking

about that’s exactly what happened you had two friends that train together didn’t want to hurt each other you know

and I don’t know if they rock paper scissors or scissors for someone to win but whatever happened happened and the

pfl caught on to it and they heard about it and they realized it and I’m glad they did something about it look you get

paid to fight you don’t get played to play grab ass out there you get paid to fight so the fight didn’t happen

basically if I didn’t happen well the fight happened but it didn’t happen it

wasn’t the fight it was and this this is my problem with it and this is where I told you know there was people that called me about and stuff and talking

about I said look at the pfl is the promotion they’re paying those guys to

fight those guys are making money and the way they make that money is by fighting and what they are doing when

they say okay I’ll accept that fight is they’re saying I will fight to the best of my ability

and you’ve got to say neither guy did neither guy did well you could tell it

just wasn’t their their they were not going after each other with an intensity

that you could buy into yeah it’s um it’s in your contract that it says you

will fight you will fight pretty much to the best of your for the best of your ability it says something else there’s a

different verbiage for it but yeah but yeah it basically says that and that you will give it your all and you know do

whatever you can to finish the fight whatever it is has it has all these little breakdowns in it what’s the promoter paying for

no I I understand exactly where you’re coming from in this situation and scenario though Shane Burgos he’s the

beneficiary of it all of the situation but yeah both those Fighters I wouldn’t have them on my phone in my organization

anymore if if well if you’re gonna do that if you’re gonna say hey I’m taking the

other then I’m gonna cut you there’s because I’m not gonna I’m not gonna sit there and say that oh it’s okay and I

believe that you’ll never do it again I can’t I I can’t trust that you’re gonna always give it your best performance

yeah there’s just no way and with with the way you can bet on fights now

you’re gonna see more of this and I I just I I get nervous especially

in the point system type tournament not the best Fighter moves on the guy who wins moves I think it’s not that you’re

not getting the best of the person who who won the fight you’re getting the one that won the fight but they did it and

they worked together and team together these are things that people should be concerned about um I know the promotions are I know the

betting I know the betting organizations are I’m sure the commissions are all of these things I mean it’s very concerning

and so I’m glad they did something but they got to do more I mean I’m personally like they need to be cut like

what cut release what’s that oh you’re saying I think I’m gonna be fine also too by by the commissions

sorry you’re you you’re you’re you’re um you’re fixing a fight

you fit I can tell you I’m being honest what I have I’ve had people from commissions so executive

directors call me and say uh I don’t think it’s right that they took him out of that spot you know or I you know I

look at it and yes you know look at their whole thing is it’s a point system and so with that point system

you know those guys knew hey if I get the points I’m in the playoffs and now you’re taking them out that’s just not right and I go whoa whoa whoa stop I go

the pfl is a promotion and and in in their promotion they have

a tournament and they look at and say if you don’t perform to the desired level to be part of that

tournament I could take you out and put somebody in that wants to be part of that tournament and wants to give the

performance you know that we’re expecting I go so I don’t see where the problem is there’s

nothing that says oh I’ve got to give you points I said they have a point system I understand

that but they’re a promoter and the promotion wants to put on the fights that people want to see because that’s

how they make money yeah just makes sense yeah like I said

um the commissions need to take um there needs to be harsher penalties by the commissions especially now that

gambling’s involved it’s going to be more problems later on down the line they’re going to find ways to Buck the

system and I’m sure this is what happens what you’re talking about is the whole thing that happened

with the UFC yeah that’s why the UFC took it so seriously yeah you got to let them go hate to say that but you got to

I mean it’s it’s a look maybe bring them back yeah I don’t know how old they are but you know maybe bring them back in a

year or two you know say look first time slap on the wrist we suspended you or we kicked you out of the organization for a

year or two whatever it is if you’re still around hopefully both of them both of those guys both of them have been

tournament champions both of them nope I’m not doing that man

if I’m a promoter if I’m somebody that is paying you guys a substantial amount

of money to go out there and performance to the entertainment business I’m not putting up with that and the commission shouldn’t be allowing it

um there should be partial penalties there should have been a six month suspension maybe even a year-long

suspension you cannot mess around now that there’s gambling involved

just my personal all right then tell me what is your personal opinion what is

your take on the match-up between clay Collard I’m sorry and Shane Burger you

know it’s funny that I mean they’re basically stylistically they’re very similar both are good on the feet clay color I think

is a little bit better of the grappler but I don’t think clay can get him down I don’t think Clay’s gonna waste a lot

of energy to get him down so I look at the two of these guys really throwing the exchanges but I also think that clay

color is going to go to the body a lot more he’s gonna hit to the top he’ll go back to the body and uh he’ll come back up

top now look I also believe that Shea but Burgos has got the power yeah he’s got the power but John

even though he has the power he’s up at 155. he is a better fighter at 145 he’s a monster at 145. he doesn’t want to

make that weight anymore and I think he matches up a lot better with the guys at 145. I mean the guys that I see down

there are 145. you know me wrong they’re all studs you got um Chris Wade you got

uh Bubba you’ve got uh the the the uh yeah we got potato no what about banana

dude that kid is freaking good and you’ve got a uh

yeah so you’ve got him um you’ve got that whole crew the one that gives the hardest time is move it obviously

because of the wrestling in the pit the pedigree there the explosiveness but the other three will stand in trade and

we’ll try to take him down and try to put pressure on him but that they make for great fights because they will all stand a little bit before they wrestle

um Shane is the I think Shane is the better fighter at 145. now this is a 155 clay collar to me is just someone that

he can take the damage he can take the big shots and he can still walk forward and he can make you pay and Shane and

Shane Burgers has been known to get tired he doesn’t push a fast action-paced fight and when he does he slows down so much now that was because

he cut down to 45. now it’s a 55 but he’s still because he’s got so much power because he’s he’s kind of he’s

pretty explosive those things tend to tend to slow you down as the fight goes on he throws everything with bad

intentions when you throw bad intentions you tend to slow down as the fight goes on click hard he throws things with bad

intentions but he does it in spurts a little bit like how the Diaz brothers do okay they touch touch

to the body back up to the head they then he knows exactly what he’s doing

um in terms of conserving the energy when he needs to and and having more output when he needs to he’s a fantastic

fighter man I I didn’t I wasn’t a Believer until I saw him you know put it

on a pedest then when I saw him putting on pedals like oh wow okay okay you’re

good and then I saw his next couple performances I’m like wow you you are really good it’s not just a one-time thing where pet is to the fire under

your ass and uh you know you got it done no you’re good you’re really good yeah and so um yeah when I look at these guys

I look at them like I’m gonna go more with Clay because clay at 155 is a natural 155 pounder Shane Burgos is a 55

pounder he’s a big guy I get it yeah but I just don’t see he hasn’t quite caught

on to carrying the weight as well as someone like clay who’s fought us pretty much his whole career at 55. Shane’s now

getting into 55 and he’s fighting there I just think that clay is used to taking more damage there uh Shane doesn’t have

a lot of out as much output as the round as the fight goes on Emma lean more towards clay

I can’t blame you I think it’s a fantastic I you know when we look at matchups and you know in the pfl and

some of them I look at it and I’m being honest last week you know I looked and said that’s not a good answer I’ve

already seen that fight and this fighter is going to walk through that fighter this one I can’t tell you this has got

Shane Burgos can absolutely win this fight the number four can beat the number one but the number one can

definitely beat the number four too and it’s just a matter of who’s able to fight at the range that they’re

comfortable at can Shane Burgos land counters when caller comes in and

college is always going to leave he likes to exit with body shots he’s gonna put those to the body just to you know

start trying to punch a hole in your gas tank and if he’s able to land enough it will do that because if there’s one

thing that I’ve seen out of Burgos and it may be that I saw it more at 1 45 than I I have seen it at 155 is that

he can start to lose that energy and get tired now like I said I’ve seen it more

at 145 I really haven’t seen him lose any energy at uh 55 I thought his fight

with oam the way that he um he fought that he showed that he was in great

shape you know he was in it the whole time but this is a great matchup I really I cannot wait for this fight this

is one of those ones I’m looking forward to watching that I mean I gotta agree with you I I ca look I caught I said

clay color to win but I gotta be honest it’s a 50 50 fight like you said it’s it’s a toss-up fight I just look at what

Clay’s been able to do at 55 and Shane not having quite the success in the pfl

at 55 is but as that goes for all the guys that have come over from the UFC they haven’t had success at all but well

and this you know and I’ve heard people talking and you know I had some guys you know talk to me about the fight and they

go well you know but Burgos man Burgos was he was you know Burgos Burgos is someone the UFC should never let go I

said yeah I agree with you but they did and he’s making more money and I I think he did the right thing you know and uh

they go but you know you know Collard is you know he’s good but I know college was in the UFC before Burgos what the

[ __ ] are you talking about you know it’s like don’t sit there and say well one’s a one’s a UFC fighter no neither guy is

a UFC fighter they’re MMA fighters who are fighting in the pfl and the pfl has two guys in this fight in this matchup

that are both outstanding and both can win yeah I just I look at the guys that have come over from the UFC as of

recently and none of them have had hacked success none of them it’s not easy I get it today it’s that

whole thing everyone thinks there’s so wow they’re so you know I look I agree

the UFC does an unbelievable job marketing well you know there’s a lot of people out there that look and say man

you know that they’re the best of the best and they do have some of the best fighters there are but there are those

guys outside of the UFC they’re some of the best fighters in the world too and

can match up with anything we can say that all day long but let’s I mean the reality is that sometimes when Fighters leave the UFC they feel like they’re

fighting guys that are on their level and they just don’t they don’t fight well yeah but they don’t fight well they

believe that like oh I’m better than you guys because I was at the UFC for so long that’s not the reality is is that

no the guys that they’re fighting they’re they’re making their way up and they’re just and they want to prove oh I

want to prove to you the other thing but if you’ve seen guys that come over from other organizations into the UFC they have very similar problems in the

beginning you know you can look at guys that they didn’t have great performances uh in the in the UFC when they first

came over Shogun Hua being one of them uh Quentin Jackson didn’t have a great performance his first fight in the UFC

either I mean certain guys have come over well hold on okay well you’re just making a statement there who did he

fight in his first fight oh no no that’s right Marvin Eastman yo no you’re right it was Marvin because he had already had

a fight with Marvin Eastman and King of the cage long before and so that was a rematch

and Marvin Eastman if in all honesty when you’re looking he’s the perfect style to give Rampage problems because

he could throw the biggest problem is every time he tried to drop in weight his chin kind of went bad

no I get what you’re saying what I’m saying is when Fighters leave one organization to go to the other their

first couple fights in that new organization are not the best and when you have fighters from the UFC they go to another organization they almost

carry themselves as if like I’m I’m in the UFC I don’t need to worry about it I don’t need to you know I’m gonna win no

matter what and they get there and they don’t have success is because there’s tough Fighters everywhere we’ve said that I don’t know how many times they’re

gonna continue to be but it’s a mentality though also um you have like Shogun he came over I believe he lost his first fight in the

UFC I think it was to force yeah right Forest Griffin UFC 70s Clinton came over and he had a it wasn’t a super tough

fight but he wasn’t an easy fight against Marvin Eastman you know there’s there’s several guys Silva same thing

came over to the UFC tough fights like just they struggled they weren’t they weren’t as dominant as they were in

their their other organization you wanna know why because it doesn’t feel like home you got to get you got to get in there

you gotta there’s not that company is you really do feel like you’re fighting an enemy territory in Shane Burgers I

feel like he’s not he hasn’t figured it out yet he’s still trying to get in there he’s probably trying to figure out the people in the back who tell him hey

are you ready let’s go like let’s get moving you know like the Bert Watsons of the crew different people yeah you have

different people back there trying to tell you what to do and and push you around you’re like man I don’t know you what are you talking to me like this for

you know I mean like there’s a relationship you build with the people in the back um the refs that’s true sometimes the

refs are different certified certain refs only you know a lot of them work a lot all the other organizations I get it

but they lean towards one organization more often so you don’t see them as much in your organization if there’s another

event that same weekend which there is normally and so you tend to see the same

refs all the time now you go to that other promotion and now they’re the different refs the ones you don’t always see because there’s usually conflicting

uh you know uh fights you know scheduling for the for the fights there’s a lot of little things the

people that when you show up they pick you up at the airport the people that when you get to the uh to the office to

sign all the posters they’re different people now telling you what to do telling you where to go telling you do the interviews it’s just a relationship

you’ve got to build you got to start to make it feel like home and I feel like Shane he hasn’t been there quite long

enough it’s only been I think a year and just getting it getting it under him a little bit you don’t understand like

this is my home now that’s where I’m gonna be I’m making a ton more money it’s hard it’s hard to make that adjustment we haven’t seen the best

Shane burgers at 155. I’m hoping to see a lot better Shane Burgers now that he’s in the playoffs but clay Collard I think

I’m gonna give the S to because it is his home he feels comfortable there and he feels he is comfortable there no

doubt about it you’re right all right then in the co-main event we have the guy who was the champion and the guy who

beat Shane Burgos when he first came to the pfl in Olivier Oben Mercier going up

against Bruno Miranda and Bruno Miranda has been basically on fire for a little bit here he has been lighting people up

he’s been having really good performances but you really got to give it oam when he first went to the UFC was

he was all wrestling he was a wrestling based guy who would you know ground and pound was good but stand up it was

always the is he going to make it to to getting into the clinch to get the fight to the ground and now his stand-up man he

actually is landing good combinations he’s much smoother on his feet he moves laterally he does a lot of good things

and he’s been very successful you know since coming over to the pfl

I mean I’m trying to remember does he even have a loss in the pfl I think he

does does he who beat him I think Dave pull up his record real quick for me

please oh sorry I clicked him now you had it no that’s why I know but I

changed that okay there we go in the pfl oh yeah in the pfl he doesn’t interesting

undefeated in the pfl one two three four five six seven

eight eight in a row like I said he’s he’s really coming to his own

you know and you could take a look again he’s got a couple in here he’s got the you know the two that we talked about

that were season uh playoff winners and stuff as far as they won the titles in Schultz and man and

Theo you know got to win against marcine hell who is obviously Bellator and the

UFC fighter you know then he got Stevie Ray Shane Burgos

Anthony Romero he’s doing great I mean with him he’s got a big body frame for

the weight class um a lot of people wrestle really well he’s getting to understand what he needs

to do to faint the shots and let his hands go land the big shot if it doesn’t land then get right into the wrestling

smother the space almost like a Bernard Hopkins Bernard would throw his shots he’d be he’d be out of range and then he would

throw his shots and then he would just go right to the club smother smother you clinch you hold you I mean he made it

that’s why he fought for so long was he 51 years old by the time he retired because now he can get away with that he found his way to slip off get his head

offline you know and throw his big punches and then get into the clinch and hold you from there until the ref broke

you up he made a career off of it I think that with um oam same thing he’s

up but he’s falling a little he’s falling in love now a little bit with his power he knows he’s got power He’s Got The Knockout over Stephen Ray and

then he’s also got the knockout over Romero I mean he’s got power he understands he’s got power but it is all

set up at this wrestling he doesn’t utilize yeah it’s set up with his wrestling but his Resurgence because

look he was having problems in when he was in the UFC he just everyone knew how to beat him and for the most part just

started he was just in that downhill spiral of it just wasn’t working for him and his like his stand up in the last

you know two years it’s become way way more proficient way

more that he can rely on being on his feet and he’s not diving for takedowns like he did in the past

yeah I look at this matchup though even if he wins then I’m looking to see him fight clay

collard I mean that’s well you that’s because

you’re saying clay collar is going to be changed no what I’m saying though is I’ve already seen the chambers I’ve already seen the chamber yeah I’ve seen

how it went you want to see you want to see him fight that collar I mean I don’t want to see the same that’s the problem with that’s that’s another that’s one of

the other problems I have with the pfl format it’s the same guys it’s almost the same guy as every tournament give me

some new blood give me some new Fighters give me somebody new every time take the winner of it and give me three new or

four new or eight well I don’t know how many people eight new people whatever it is give me give me a new tournament

every single time give me the top two guys put them in there in the opposite ends of the bracket from last time the ones that are in the finals

and go from there don’t keep giving me the same same Fighters and that’s what I’m getting it’s hard to stay it’s hard

to stay um interested in what goes on when the point systems can dictate where where

you know the fighter who won actually lost you know and doesn’t get in with the fight of the loss and then actually

won another fight got a submission now he’s in automatically or she’s in automatically it’s just it’s a little frustrating I

look I I see the vision of where they’re trying to go with it yeah it’s just too hard to make it work

and make sense and I think Joe Rogan said it best if I give a little a little bit of advice to the PFO

get rid of that quirky ass system of all the numbers and the scoring this the

best fighter fights the best fighter and then you move on whoever wins moves on it’s pretty [ __ ] simple like it

don’t make it more complicated than this that’s really what it comes down to I want to see the best fighters fight the

best fighters I don’t want to see the guy who just skated by with the you know with a little bit of a win here in the

split decision come over the guy who come over the guy who went for the went for The Knockout and they got knocked

out himself like you know I don’t want to see I want to see the guy who went for it I want the guy who [ __ ] was

going balls deep in you know I agree so I want to see the guy going for it that’s exactly they got something they

do have something I just the scoring the point system thing is it’s hard to follow looking and for and the

supporters becoming more casual based there’s just so many fights and so many shows people just like they because

they’ve all become casuals you know and then uh I mean if you listen to them in our comment section they’re they’re all professionals but if you if you if you

get around them you understand how casual I don’t know yeah hold on it’s the one thing our last show we were

talking with uh about Bo nickel and his thing was he did make one great comment he said you know it’s the it’s the sport

with the people who think the the fans who think they know the most don’t know a damn thing about it so it’s the truth

it’s hilarious um no but look I love our listeners I love our listeners a lot because I know most of them are not casuals uh but if

you follow some of the if I go on to some of these other shows and I go to their comments there a lot of them are they’re casuals they’re all casuals we

we attract the hardcores John you and I that a baby those are the ones we want right oh man I’ll tell you what Carlos

Miranda has come in he’s shown that he’s a tough dude I don’t think that he has the technical ability to stay with

sadabusi unless he can get soda boot to the ground and that’s not an easy thing to do anymore Sodom who is really uh

upped his level as far as his uh defensive wrestling is damn good now and

he’s good at throwing upper guys that want to take him down he’s sitting there waiting for the knee waiting for the

uppercut he’s uh look there’s a reason why he won the you know the title last year and it’s

because he’s freaking good now and he’s got a he’s got that Josh Thompson

perfect Physique in that tall long and lanky man you talk about the perfect you

know build at 170 pounds he’s got it okay some Fighters have it man

um he’s got the ability to to um continue to be the champ he got the

ability to keep knocking people out he just gotta have a little more output got to believe in what he’s doing hit the

knock on him before before he won the title was that he just didn’t have enough output and when he did have people in

trouble he sat back because he was afraid of being taken down so with Miranda he’s just got to get into his face get into his grill make

him make a mistake give him a lot of faints do it if you’re Miranda try to

fight him a little bit how uh Sean O’Malley fought um

uh Sterling get into his grill get like uh get in the face fight a little bit

and then give him faints and then go ahead and react off of that you’ve got to do that you’ve got to make him you gotta make him react before see if he

throws something and then react off of that that’s exactly how sean O’Malley fight fought aljo he got him to react

waiting for him to go and then when he went he slept right outside the position and then landed a clean shot that’s what Miranda’s got to do to stop Lucy

now we’ll see true magma and magmed karamov taking on Solomon Renfrow

I feel bad for Solomon Renfro because that’s a tough fight uh Solomon’s Got Talent he’s a good

fight he’s good in the stand-up he’s got decent grappling I don’t know if it’s good enough to stop what uh karimoff

does basically when he gets into that clinch when Maga Med karimoff gets in the cliff he’s slick he does a lot of

nice little tiny things that end up putting you on your back because you’ve got to catch them right away and if you

don’t you’re falling behind and then he’s got you where you watch it he’s done you guys are just a very good

technician yeah I mean uh margarmed Maga mad care off he’s really good in terms

of mixing up his combinations mixing in his wrestling he’s got the ability just to be on top and do a ton of damage

there’s not much I can say about the fight I mean in terms of referral is just gonna have to to try to set the

tempo don’t let karimov dictate the pace of the fight it’s gonna be difficult it’s not easy to do this because Karam

off is not bad no he’s good he’s actually pretty damn good on his feet and um and then he knows how to mix in

the wrestling what he needs and when he gets on top he’s got good grinding pad he’s got great control he pushes you

where he wants you to push and then he goes and then he goes in and let’s go to the ground a pound so I’m looking at referral he’s really just got to make

sure he doesn’t he doesn’t um give him too much respect and he

tries to dictate the pace of the fight when he allows uh karimoff to go ahead and dictate the pace of the fight then

he’s fighting defensively you’ve got to be offensive against somebody like karimoff you’ve got to dictate everything yeah so I agree and John

the ollie wash kid man he’s back it’s gonna I’m sure it’s another amateur

fight uh staying as an amateur like they’ve got

their plans for this young man and hey I don’t have a problem with it you know

I I look at it the the if I was going to say that there’s one problem I have with it they take an amateur fight and they

stick it in this position on the main card and it’s a little awkward but you know I

understand that you know they’re looking and this is the grand the grandson of Muhammad Ali he is talented he’s got a

lot of you know uh speed he’s got power in his hands he’s working hard I know

people that are working with him they all talk about hey man he’s a good kid he you know he’s dedicated all this all

the things you want to hear I got nothing but compliments to say to him

it’s just that it’s an amateur fight and you know don’t expect that they’re going to put

him against someone that’s got a ton of talent because they are they want to work with them and they want him to be a

star of the future and that’s what they’re working towards so they got a little bit of a boxing you know MMA has

never had that whole boxing element of we’re gonna build you and we’re gonna just feed you these Fighters that we

know that you should be able to beat and beat pretty convincingly and we’re going to do this over time to get you to a

certain record and then we’ll start putting you against Talent you just don’t see that in MMA much this is kind

of what you’re seeing with Walsh I mean the only but it’s at the amateur level

the only promoter I’ve ever seen do that is really Scott Coker Scott did a little bit with Kung Lee

uh you know he did it yeah and see again Kung cut came from a

different background right he was a standout in what he did

and to come into MMA you got to give him some time to you know get used to the sport

that’s understandable yeah you did with AJ McKee

AJ McKee no he started him off let’s be honest yes but he saw him as an amateur and started him off as a pro and at

least Scott Coker is smart enough to say look I think you have talent let me

help me to help you is really what he’s doing he’s saying don’t I’m not going to

pay you a ton in the beginning because I’m going to give you opponents to try to get you comfortable in this

sport gets you comfortable under the lights do all these things I’m going to help build you during these fights we’re

going to hopefully get some you know some great footage of you and highlight real stuff and we’re going to be able to use it we’re going to just start

building that’s that is you know a coalition between the the fighter and the promoter

and it’s smart on both ends yeah I mean they did it for for a while with James Gallagher they did it with AJ McKee uh

they did it with Johnny eblin they’ve done it with they did it with Austin maniford I mean did it with Dawson

Dalton Ross they’ve done a lot of good Fighters I mean even Amazon you know Amazon had some good fights obviously a

lot of fights before he came but they they helped him up though also did they

yeah what tell me who

okay I’m trying to think of the fighters that Amazon faced yeah I mean I know he faced Dave Rickles okay kind of remains

forward in I I admit he was tailored made for him he faced Eric Silva tough

fight right Gerald Gerald Harris Gerald Harris a tough fight people people give Gerald Harris enough credit

he’s dude Gerald Harris is a tough son of a [ __ ] he has a hell of a record he hasn’t lost to a whole lot of people so

they gave Gerald Harris okay Eric Silva David Ed Ruth yeah Ed was still young in the sport

yeah but we’re talking about a three-time nc2a division one right Champion not just you know and so it’s

like no I get it yeah they helped and maybe uh I don’t know I look at like Gerald

Harris wasn’t isn’t he’s good he’s very good he was probably okay Gerald Harris

when he fought Amazon was probably I’m guessing 25 and 6 26 and seven somewhere in there

yeah not that’s not an easy he’s got power too Eric Silva’s chin wasn’t all that great

but you know uh talented uh you know Dave Rickles kind of Taylor Made for him uh Ed Ruth

was shocked me in that fight was he was able to take everyone down several times oh yeah yeah the mark lemonger fight

Grace stoppage that just showed you how good his wrestling is for a guy that

never right yeah if you didn’t believe in how good his wrestling was go up and watch the very first Logan story fight geez

it was crazy to watch anyways fantastic fighter all right uh let’s go ahead and uh let’s go to the is there any other

fights on this card you want to chat about I didn’t see anything else nah I think we’re good with that you know

there’s that’s good let’s go to the UFC card but everyone tune in Wednesday here

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at a place called Tyler Brothers Daryl Tyler runs Tyler Brothers he is a fantastic dude love the guy uh just a

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three times a year I go to that auction and they just had it and it seems like you know a lot of people come up and

talk to me and stuff and so this one guy just kept on coming up man he’s an older you know he’s my age probably a little

bit younger but you know a little bit more uh weathered but Farm stuff he

starts and he’s got this nice stitch pattern over his face right he says that’s what we said well what happened

he says oh man a tree and I went oh you got a tree story oh let me hear your tree story right he says he goes man he

says you know this tree giant treaty is split he goes and he says I want to have it on one end of it standing up one end

of it falls I go I got a story just like that right keep going right and he says he goes well there’s this one branch and

I go man this thing’s good it’s getting good too good because it’s the same thing hey he goes and I’m like I’m

looking at it he goes and it’s up there and I says if I get rid of that I said oh my God this is sounding exactly the

same right he goes well I I go up there and I cut it he goes and it goes forward

and bounces and he goes and it bounces back into my face he goes and just split me open he goes knock me over yeah he

goes that’s what happened with me he goes he said so I had to go to the hospital get off all cut up I said well I’m glad to know that I’m not the only

person that trees attack in Tennessee oh my gosh it’s gonna be like a

geriatrics convention like little Park everybody that’s been attacked by trees

and the [ __ ] tree wins every single time oh dude guys are cracking me up all right hey let’s get into the UFC what is

this what UFC what single Singapore Singapore this is not pay-per-view though right this is on a

Fight Pass no no no I’m not fight past uh please ABC it’s on ABC hello I think

it’s I think it was on something else because I think that was the whole yeah I could be wrong it’s on ESPN

don’t they normally run them simultaneously anyways ABC and ESPN Plus

I think they usually run them Side by they do I mean I think I’m thinking of another fight night card yeah this one’s ESPN

plus got it all right well hey let’s go ahead and jump in as one or there was one you got Max Holloway versus Korean zombie

let’s go John I you know I’m being honest this is one of those ones right I love Chan song

Zhang he’s a dynamite fighter but he is he’s reached his Peak and he’s overspeak

and uh he slowed down as a fighter he’s still a great Grappler but his stand-up has slowed down he

doesn’t uh he doesn’t create the same angles that he used to create with his footwork or he’s not catching guys in

the same thing and that’s in my opinion based on just speed uh he’s going up

against one of the best damn stand-up Fighters there is in the game Max Holloway is just a freaking animal when

it comes to the stand up I think this fight for the most part is going to end up in the stand-up position throughout

it the real question is you know with everything happening in Hawaii is that taking any attention away from Max

how’s he doing you know where where is his mind at and and things you know he’s

a professional so you know I have no doubts in him but I look at this fight

at one time this was an incredible fight where 50 50 I would

say it’s not 50 50 now Max Holloway is is by far the guy that should be the the

favorite in this I think uh the Korean zombie is going to be a big Underdog in this fight and uh it’s gonna be tough

for him to get a win yeah I’m looking at this fight I’m thinking to myself with Korean zombie he just can’t take the damage he used to take he doesn’t take

it as well as he used to take it uh he’s been in too many battles been in too many wars knocked down drag outs and uh

his fight with Volkman he just he just got punished the whole fight was punishment and uh I’m gonna be honest

this fight’s gonna be the exact same way he’s gonna just take nothing but punishment nothing but punishment and um

and with Max Max I agree with you in terms of we don’t know where his mindset is

but he’s a motivated son of a [ __ ] when it comes when it comes to things like this

yeah it comes to fight night he’s always fight night I believe that I believe that the Hawaiians man they’re proud

people they’re very proud people and uh but no Hawaiians are Fighters and

they’re Warriors and all the stuff that’s going on over there right now and you know and all the stuff that

Hawaiians are posting about you know the government the all they’re not happy at

all and I believe if I believe that he is someone that is he’s gonna make it very vocal

um and he wants to make sure he gets that microphone in front of him to say what he wants to say at the end

um now I I don’t know if it’s going to be positive or negative but I would imagine it’s going to be something along the lines of my people are hurting right

now and we need all the help we can get so please support us that says that’s what I see coming out of Max Holloway’s

mouth there might be some other stuff involved but he is a true um

genuine person when it comes to um him as a father him as a husband him

as a Hawaiian and uh if you guys can’t support him I can’t I can’t help you in this sport man this guy’s a [ __ ]

amazing person and so um I just think stylistically he’s a really bad matchup for Korean zombie the

speed his accuracy especially at this point in this movement and zombie just doesn’t take the punishment like he used

to but three or four years away I think it was three years away uh zombie had to join the military for yeah

it it ruined his career I wouldn’t say ruined he came back strong came back strong but he didn’t get better I

wouldn’t say it ruined his career but yeah it was a time away that he wasn’t getting progressing yeah and the game

just evolves you see that all right next fight I agree

Anthony Smith taking on Ryan’s band wait a second wait a second sorry I’m sorry to interrupt you John starting go back

go back to that fight John we we got to talk about this where does where does he go next with a win over Korean zombie

let’s be honest what who is it that you can say

who is it who is it in the featherweight division that

the UFC has signed that you would say is a favorite in beating

Max Holloway who did they just sign they just signed somebody didn’t they yeah who I don’t remember I can’t remember now

we’ve seen Arnold Allen face him and I I think Alan Arnold Allen is a fantastic

fighter but Max was able to shut him down in a lot

of ways and just prove that you got a ways to go there’s things that you got to change Calvin cater we watched that

fight Calvin cater showed you know how tough he is but there was a level difference there

Josh Emmett’s really not even in that now you know if I was gonna put anybody

against him at this point and say all right here it is you want another shot at volkanovsky

this is your chance to get it with a win and if the and if you can’t get the win

I’m gonna give it to this guy and that would be super yeah yeah but then do you really want to get

rid of your number one contender not not Max I’m saying you get rid of temporary because support is the only

guy that hasn’t really faced Volk or hasn’t lost to Max yeah but and that’s the whole point you

know you take a look in vulcanovsky I think is out for a little bit here right uh healing up so I’m not expecting him

to have a fight and you got to look and say well you know

Max is the is the the consensus number one in that weight class obviously vulcanovsky being

the champion has had three fights with him and he’s got three wins against him now the second one was super close

first one and the third one weren’t that close so maybe the fourth would be super close and we and look we we have seen

where we’ve had you know guys face off against each other four times and

usually they’re good fights so I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a good fight with volkanowskian and Holly it’s just a hard

sell It’s A Hard Sell but it’s if if you got Max Holloway

who else are you gonna put him against besides tapuria or going back to a championship fight

yeah I don’t know man I know I don’t know I mean be being honest he’s taking on

he’s a number one Josh I want you to think about this when you were number one and you were at a time

did you want to take on number eight no [ __ ] we’re not doing anything for you after I beat Nate I was number two or

three and they were trying to give me [ __ ] uh rustam kabuloff and I was like yeah go [ __ ] yourself

okay but why but why I had never heard of him I had never seen the guy fight I

didn’t know who he was no disrespect to him I know he’s a really tough fighter I just didn’t know who he was but but but

when you’re number one why is it you don’t want to fight number eight doesn’t do anything for you no it doesn’t no

you’re stuck here’s the thing though John you’re supposed to be there’s certain guys that I would have fought had they offered them to me but they

didn’t offer them to me like I would have fought a cowboy Cerrone and I don’t pedest with the champion at the time but there were certain guys that motivated

me because I just had so much respect for them there’s no disrespect sure I I was a fighter when I got to work

especially when I went back to this UFC the second time I was motivated by I was motivated by other Fighters it was hard

for me to get up out of bed go yeah that guy doesn’t really do it for me man and you could see it in some of my performances there was guys that should

have never been in the cage with me ever but for some reason we ended up going the full distance and there was guys that motivated the [ __ ] out of me and I

got him out of there in two rounds you know I mean like look there was no and no disrespect to this young man I love

this guy a lot he’s a [ __ ] great person his name fan I want the distance with him it was a one-sided fight but I

want the discipline the mic I just couldn’t get him out of there but there wasn’t a lot of motivation and trained as hard for him I was like yeah this guy’s not better than me on the ground

there’s no way he’s gonna outstrike me I’m faster than all these things but then guys it motivated me Dwayne Ludwig

how do I not get motivated for that guy kick your [ __ ] head off you know I mean like there’s there’s just things that you know and with him there was a

lot of extra motivation because my dad had passed 10 days before I woke up the morning of the fight sick as [ __ ] like

green [ __ ] coming out of my face it was just there was so much motivation in

that fight for me to get that win there was nothing that was going to stop me Fighters motive certain fights motivated

me I wanted to fight the best guys the guys are the biggest names and when I got to UFC they didn’t offer me that these guys like taporia if I’m if I’m

Max Holloway you got to give me the guy that you guys that you guys think is gonna beat me those are the guys that

motivate me tapori is the guy exactly but if I’m but if I’m sipporia knowing that you’ve Arnold Allen’s already lost

to Max uh Brian Ortega yair and Max have all lost to bulk it’s like why not just

put me in the title fight like if if I was listen you’re gonna have the same [ __ ] fight that no one gives a [ __ ]

about again but let’s be honest Max Holloway has beaten Jerry Rodriguez by Brian Ortega

yeah I know he beat him but I’m saying it was it was a it was a little shaky of a fight there light kicks yeah it was

pretty it was pretty clear it was but I mean yes it was your year had his moments but Max beat him he beat Brian

Ortega he beat Arnold Allen cater he’s gonna end up fighting you know Korean

zombie here you just look and you go yeah you know

it’s a it’s a tough road but that’s why I say I would you know if I don’t have

volcanovsky to fight someone like deporia then I’m gonna put him against Max Hollywood yeah the only guy that I

could see in that whole thing that I’m kind of interested in seeing where he goes is evil off is um see it I know

he’s got to work his way up and I’m not saying he should fight to Corey at all I’m not saying that but um watching evil

off against somebody maybe like a Josh Emmett maybe an Arnold Allen you know why not give him someone like a Brian

Ortega oh I would love to see that I agree um but you know I’m going to be honest

the if you recall ever lost last fight was Diego Lopez Lopez

that kid’s tough that kid that kid yeah and it’s it’s hard to sit there and to

say well Diego looks he he put evil off in a

lot of problems and then you watched him in his next fight you go that kid’s just good so you know it’s gonna I don’t know

where evil off is as far as you know he could have been taking you know back by not expecting someone to be as good as

as Diego was Diego’s good but you’re right avalov is a guy that you’re looking at where where’s he gonna fit in

but I would say with evil off I would put him against Calvin Gator all right

let’s see then we’re going to see you hopefully we’ll see if Max gets past uh Korean zombie maybe we’ll see the

temporary fight because I believe taporia said the only other guy I’ll find is Max Holloway that’s it which is smart he said I’ll

fight Volk yeah I want the title fight if it’s not volt then I want max if it’s not Max I’ll just wait

dumb the way but I understand this reasoning because there’s no one else really there up that in that division for him to fight if you go to Brian

Ortega Brian’s been out for a little bit you know you can see the Brian fighting him and Brian Brian threatens him a lot

in a lot of areas yeah so all right next fight yeah Anthony Smith going up against Ryan

Spann what do you think well Anthony Smith is uh somebody that’s got a little bit more cardio than Ryan’s

man I’m sorry man we don’t know I love Ryan

Spann I think he’s got all the athleticism and all the abilities but guess what he can’t seem to get past the

first round with a little bit more cardio I don’t know what it is John he just finds a way to exert himself too

much in the first round by the end of the first round or into the second round he’s a shell of a fighter it sucks

because you know he’s got the talent he’s got the talent he just doesn’t have he doesn’t have the cardio and Anthony

Smith is he can take a shot he can deliver shots he’s got power he’s pretty fast himself and I think on top he’s the

better fighter if the fight hits the ground if I hits the ground and Anthony Anthony Smith is in the top position I think

Ryan spans in trouble yeah but this is a it’s a good light heavyweight

matchup because they both I think that uh Anthony’s a little bit Slicker on the feet and I think Ryan’s fans got more

power you know when you look at them both but they both have their their strengths here but overall look at Anthony’s he’s

one of those guys man take a look at all those fights man he has got over 50 fights you know

I’ve been watching him for God knows how long I did I I think the first time I wrecked him was when he

fought Audra Gracie you know back in Strike Force

and uh that was a long time ago I didn’t even realize he was in Strike Force until we got to the UFC oh my God yeah

yeah yeah that was the one and only time at least like in strike force it might have been then

he was in Bellator fought a couple times yeah before she fought fight next fight down no no no

yeah they had a couple fights in Bellator and stuff and you know he’s got wins there he’s just been everywhere and

fought everybody you know take a look at some of the names on the list that you know he’s competed against he’s got a lot of names

and he’s he is he has definitely ducked nobody no he’s a gamer he’s a gamer

um how do you see that fight going

experience wise and exactly what you’re talking about I look at Anthony Smith as Anthony’s got

to get past the first round with him he’s got to you know make him work but

don’t take any big chances don’t put yourself in any kind of you know situations where you’re taking big shots you know

use your lateral movement and make him work in that first round once you get through the first round now you can open

up a little bit more and take the second and look at putting him away in the second to Third uh if you’re Ryan Spann

I want to go after him you know I gotta go after him hard and you know at this point he’s got the power to put

anybody away I don’t care who you are you get touched on the chin the right way you’re going to go out so I I look at Anthony in the long run if it goes

past the second round you know Anthony Smith is going to be my winner if it’s early I look more towards Ryan’s man got

it uh next fight man I think he has the potential to be fight of the night ah I think this could be a great fight

and the fact that like Giga is a dynamite stand-up fighter

obviously the ground is you know where he’s have he’s been working and stuff and getting better Alex caceres was

basically the same fighter just he didn’t have the power of the Giga did but when he first came in he was he was a dynamite stand-up very you know

exciting a lot of spinning attacks did a lot of you know crazy you know

you know double kicks and things like that and would get taken to the ground and submitted

well now he’s actually got pretty goddamn good wrestling defense and his

his ground game is not bad he actually uses it at times and and gets you know

guys in trouble on the ground so I look at this and you know Alex has

a lot more experience in MMA he doesn’t have more experience in fighting because Giga has a has a bunch of kickboxing

in the stand up I’ve got to give it to giga chikaze I think he’s just the the

better overall stand-up fighter but Alex carries a lot of movement and a lot of problems in range and getting to him but

I can see Alex Sarah is taking this fight to the ground and controlling him on the ground and getting the win yeah I’m actually because there’s I think

number 15 a gig is at like number nine I think or something even lower maybe even seven click on see where geek is out in

the rankings he’s nine and you’ve got 15 uh Alex caseras is at 15. I’m gonna go with

casares over this fight I think I think look on the feet I’m gonna lean towards Giga but the fact that because Sarah

with his footwork his movement the way he’s in and out he’s got he’s got long

limbs his ability to use he’s good at catching kicks he’s good at Sidekicks keeping the range in the distance

hitting the sidekick and then coming back with a combination and then going right into his takedowns he’s pretty

fast on his double legs and his takedowns if he gets to the body he jumps to the back really fast and where Giga Lacks it’s not it’s not even close

when it comes to the grappling Department Giga is just not good in the grappling you’re gonna look where Alex

caseros is just a way better Grappler on the feet casares can hang with them but

isn’t that funny that now you’re saying that Alex is serious dude when it comes to grappling I was serious is your man

here and you’re looking you’re going wow how time has yeah and it lets you know

that hey this young man has spent the right time getting better and making himself well around and I admire that

about him man his last loss was a submission to Chrome

Grace that’s Chrome Grace yeah dude there’s a difference yeah and the last Chrome Gracie we’ve seen is not the same

Pro Gracie we saw fight Alex um all right next is there any other fights

on this card you want to talk about look the car is not a very stacked car but it’s still a pretty good car there’s some there’s some catch me fights in

here you know they’re those stand out Aaron blanchfield against Talia Santos I

think is going to be a really good fight I think that’s a great match up there and uh it’s one of those ones where man

both of them have their strengths blancheville I think on the ground is is the superior Fighters Santos on the feet

of superior fighter so where where does the fight take place and then honestly

you know fight way down the list Chidi ninja kawani taking on Michael ohlchuk

that’s gonna be a good fight because olichek if if engine kawani is going to

win he’s going to win it in the first round and if if he doesn’t win the first round look out for oluchuk he’s gonna come get

him but it should be good I’m gonna say tafa and Porter someone’s getting knocked out I’m just gonna go out on a limb there and say that just you know I think

Porter if he’s if he has a chance to get to take down and get on top I think he’ll he’ll be with a ground a pound and get some get some work in there but I

think eventually this fight’s gonna end up back on the feet like it does every single round and someone’s gonna get knocked the [ __ ] out so it’s gonna it’s

gonna be uh it’s gonna be a good a good Display of Power I think in that fight especially if it gets into the second round when they sort of get tired

someone’s Chin’s gonna go all right hey that’s going to wrap up our UFC talk and uh Dave you got any news for us buddy

are we gonna talk yeah what do we got um do you wanna there’s a box in fact this weekend anything you want to say on the

box John’s got a little love for Dubai and usick go right ahead buddy yeah Daniel Dubois my man Alexander usick

he’s a stud that is for us WBO ibf WBA whatever else I think he’s got what

three of the titles so he uh look usick is a stud he’s fun to

watch He’s fast he’s got power but I’m being honest he shouldn’t be fighting down into why he should be

fighting Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder that’s the fights I want to see him in but that fight is uh August 26th so it’s

coming up I want to see him in Andy Ruiz I agree with you I think that would

actually be a really good fight yeah Andy Ruiz is you know got good hands

good movement man and he is slim down holy Jesus and he Ruiz is a new man yeah

I’m interested in seeing that fight we make for a fun fight I think I guess we’re gonna have to wait and see

some more hopefully hopefully we see that fight anyways all right well hey that’s gonna wrap up the boxing taco and let’s uh let’s go into some news what do

you got first Dave um I want to get your reaction to 20 Ferguson’s recent Tony Ferguson’s recent

at uh Twitter post or Instagram whatever um he said he said a bunch of things he

um and he listed them in like numerical order so I’ll read them off to you guys and then just you know you can get

comment on the ones that he misspelled your name yeah he sure did number one he

said and I’m the punch drunk one huh yeah yeah right

uh haven’t sparred good since Barboza or Thompson number two only time I find

myself in a cage is when I fight number three since pandemic none of this [ __ ] has been fun number four I used to smell

a lot more when I was competing number five being so busy taking care of others instead of myself number six is taken

absolutely everything to find myself happy number seven created boundaries between those who are bad for me

number eight structure myself so I don’t make the same mistakes number nine no I’m not retiring and [ __ ] those who

think I should number 10 I have work to do and I’m one pissed off MFR

um yeah not sparring is not a good thing like no he’s saying he hasn’t sparked good which he hasn’t had good sparring

he also says in there that he hasn’t been in the cage except for when he fights that’s another thing that’s not good those are all things that you need

to have surrounding you look we spawned in a ring when at AKA in the beginning and then you start realizing when you

Spar in a cage how much difference how much of a difference it makes because there’s nowhere your butt can’t scoot

out you can’t defend takedowns as easy you know it’s it’s more difficult it’s more difficult to defend the takedowns

Against the Cage as it is against the rose because now I can just sit on the rope and you can’t really get me I can kind of grab the Rope a little bit stop

you from taking me down with my elbow armpit whatever all those things there’s

things that you have to put yourself into these situations on a daily basis so when you get in there just come

second to none you just you’re it’s just muscle memory um you know the pandemic you know none

of this shit’s been fun since the pandemic no you know like he hasn’t won since the past yeah of course it hasn’t been that’s the thing is that

I’ve said this I don’t know how many times winning solves everything solves your problems at home solves the solves

your relationship problem solves solves your coaches problems it solves your mental problems it solves all that [ __ ]

and it’s it’s not easy when you when I lost when I lost two in a row

I had never lost two in a row I was like what the hell is going on it just it just baffled me it baffled the [ __ ] out

of me but then when I lost three and a lot my third one was to him my mentality was way different man I was like [ __ ]

it’s time to go I just lost three fights in a row you’re three like you’re thinking yourself

three fights this guy’s lost five or six in a row seven I think it’s six right it’s just

it’s not winning makes you feel like you’re

unstoppable and this sport like every sport is about confidence

six six yeah and so go back to his list please and um

you need that confidence that confidence is what gets you through the next fight which gets you which get makes you want

to push a little bit harder when you feel like you might be behind on the on the judge’s cards

he doesn’t have that right now and it’s not I’m not knocking him man like I said this I I continue to say this

he is when he started his losing streak was it Justin Oliveira and vanillaichi was it

yeah I mean like it was gaichi Oliveira and banil he was the same age that I was when he beat me

it’s it’s just it’s father time man there’s nothing there’s nothing I can tell you there’s nothing I like Tony a

lot Tony’s gonna probably take him up Tony doesn’t take his fence to whatever it is I’m saying because he’s he’s already come out publicly and said

things about me too like oh you’re just mad because I beat you up I pieced you up

you can say what you want man things like that don’t bother me I’m just talking realities and I had a nice I had

a nice long look in the mirror with myself after I lost to him it was like you need to figure out what you want to

do in life because it’s coming to an end real quick I didn’t think it was coming to an end just went the distance in a

split decision lost to Benson Henderson who was the Champ for a long time you know was supposed to fight Pettis for

the title then lost a very narrow Split Decision lost to Bobby green who I shouldn’t have lost to I was out there

[ __ ] lollygagging then I got destroyed by Tony Ferguson it was like a mental it was a mental

thing yeah the other two fights I came up short no big deal this guy can’t do anything to me [ __ ] he proved me wrong

there’s just a mentality just the mentality was different but then I got I went I went home I was like three in a

row you just you have to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror and go this is coming to an end real quick

it’s going to come sooner than you think and if not if it doesn’t come to an end real quick there’s a there’s a hole and you’ll

notice it within a couple years of you being retired and I’m do I’m saying this directly to Tony

is that you’re going to notice things in your brain you’re going to notice things in your the way you talk to people you’re going to notice things in the way

you the way you talk to your wife the way you talk to your kids the way you the way you handle yourself

and you need to have a reality check I can’t even explain it you have to

understand how to reel it in because you’re the only one in charge of your mentality and your and your body

language and the words that come out of your mouth that can affect your relationships with everyone and it’s it’s a I’ve had these

conversations with myself a lot you know because there’s times where words come out of your mouth and it’s you don’t

realize it and so I get nervous for him watching him take these else

so it becomes become a little emotional it’s it’s a little [ __ ] up but I care

for the guys I care for all these Fighters it’s the truth yeah and the and it’s it’s people have no concept

of how lonely it gets it’s lonely when it’s

you know when you’re winning Josh everyone wants to be around you everyone wants you know oh you do this do that

when you’re losing there’s still the people that want to be around you and they’re still the people that you know are there for you but they just

they don’t know how to communicate and you know make things better for you so a lot of

times they’ll hang back because I just I’ll just give them the space and the space is basically the

last thing you need at this point with some of them and it’s a matter of like I said I love Tony I’ve known Tony for a

long time he’s a hell of a [ __ ] athlete he’s a hell of a fighter

I don’t know if he doesn’t want to retire that’s okay I understand that

but there comes a point you know what are you gonna do here

you know it’s what are you gonna do to change this up because really now it’s come to the point of

you know they’re it’s they’ve not given him easy opponents in anybody no

none of them you know when you take a look at you know obviously the gaichi was for the interim Championship uh to

then fight Habib and so that didn’t work out and then Charles Oliveira becomes the champ you know and then he fights

pineal a tough goddamn fighter he fights Michael Chandler you know Nathan is

Bobby green you know so who are we going to say is the easiest fight there Bobby green that ain’t an easy fight for

nobody Bobby green is a pain in the ass so I I sat there before and I thought based

upon pay the UFC might say you know we’re gonna we’re gonna let him go but they haven’t

done that and that’s you know hats off to him for not doing that and give him fights but I think it it comes down to

that it’s they’re not gonna this is the same thing that happened with BJ and when you know I did BJ’s fight against

wasn’t his last fight but it was his fight against yair Rodriguez and I did I’m being honest you know I

did not want to rough the fight because I knew what was going to happen and I loved BJ as a fighter I love him

as a person and I knew that this is just a bad fight for him this kid is too fast

too good now for what BJ is now and I and I asked you know I said why

are you doing that why are you [ __ ] putting BJ against this young kid and stuff I go you know what’s gonna happen

I know what’s gonna happen and he goes yeah John I do know what’s gonna happen he goes but he makes a lot of money and

I can’t give him somebody that he can just beat because then he just wants another fight and more money so he’s going to have to earn that money

and I was like yeah fighting sucks it’s just you know but he

I I understood it I was like okay you know I get it but man it just sucks and and Tony’s in that position he’s got to

fight people that are good and I don’t think I don’t think he wants to find anybody that’s not good but he’s gonna

have to figure this out you know well I can that that whole that whole

thing that whole Rundown Josh is what it’s 10 years off his life

well it’s and and it’s it’s one of those I don’t know what to do well here’s the

thing though John is the Justin Gates you find that Charles Oliveira fight

those two fights alone I can and I speak from experience because it happened to me with him at that age the damage he

took in that gaichi fight he changes you changes your body it changes the way you

think I’m the first one to tell people that all the time I said look you can’t crash that car like that you do that a

couple of times it’s not the same car it’s not even so much a couple of times it works it’s sometimes just one time

and at the age that he was at I believe he was 36 37 at the time of the gaichi fight it it’s a

you’re not the same and after the Tony thought I was I was never the same

I never fought the same after that I fought more conservative I didn’t I was I was always a step behind

um I was fighting guys you know when I fought Paulo Villas like a talented young man 11-1 I think it was his record

but I mean he should have never even got to the second round with me but it was one of those fights I was more concerned

about getting hit by him because he was younger and he had power and he was short in stock and all those things that

I kind of were like man I get hit by this guy could be over it’s it’s just I dug deep in the Tony

Ferguson fight as deep as I [ __ ] could still be there to finish the fight I

just I never wanted to quit that second round was was brutal it was brutal tough

and I I tell this story it’s in it’s probably was one of my most viewed shows

um that I did back before you and I joined is um I was in the back of that

for about probably 45 minutes to an hour shivering in the shower and the shower

was on hot steam water and my body was shivering I couldn’t get my I couldn’t control myself I was shivering so much I

lost so much blood my body was in shock you know and um it took me a long time you know that

night to actually get my body to stop shivering I’d say it took me probably about two hours three hours for my body not to shiver that’s

what’s on that sweaters on we were in San Diego by the way the [ __ ] yeah it was cold weather was nice

um it wasn’t until I got like probably two or three drinks in me that I read that my body stopped shivering you know

it’s just you’re not the same fighter I think those fights from the Justin gaichi and the Charles Oliveira but Neil

Darius Chandler The Knockout he took against Chandler like those fights right there that that kind of knockout is huge

yeah like I mean I’ve seen guys in the gym got knocked out very similarly and

with shin pads on and with headgear on and all that and they were never the

same ever again ever again um look I’m not saying he should retire

if you don’t want to retire cool do what you want but you’ve got to look like I said you got to take a good look in the

mirror and just realize that even at 40 years old 41 years old

I said this on Rogan’s show when I was on there if you live another 40 years think about you have a home of the life ahead of you

that’s right what are you gonna [ __ ] do you got to start thinking about that now your kid your kids like he’s got

young kids they’re not going to get to College until you’re 60. that goes through my mind every single

time John like the kids will your kids won’t even get to College until you’re 60 years old or 58 that money that you

made through your career is gone it ain’t there what else are you gonna

do you imagine how much money you spent just just to get to where you’re at

how much money you’re not making the money you’re making during that year those years after you retire you’re not

making any of that it’s gonna go fast it’s gonna go real fast and so as much as I care and I want the

best for him and I have no ill will towards Tony this is the fight game man this is the game I I admire him a lot

for what he’s done in his career he I think he’s chasing this is my own this is my own thought John he’s chasing that

fight that never happened against Habib he thinks it’s gonna he I and I’m not saying he’s trying to get the heavy

fight I’m saying that he’s chasing that one big fight he never got it he was

always right there he never got the one big fight he never got to fight Conor he never got to fight Habib he never got

the fight that won the the fight because that that Habib fight was there five

curse five times I mean you talk about a cursed fight you’re right that is

exactly what it was I mean he Tony blew out his knee doing media the week before that fight

unbelievable that wasn’t the week before it was the week up it was on Thursday Wednesday Wednesday or Thursday yeah I

have I have the tickets for the fight because I was going freaking crazy I have the tickets to the fight because I

was going yeah they’re like the black like card uh

plastic like black silhouette with gold on it yeah it was a big deal nope

anyways uh him and uh him and Connor got into it also Dave you have that

yeah so Connor uh tweets in response to that message Connor tweets I’m gonna end

you badly I’ve not forgotten but then also Tony responds back too

oh what did he say yeah I finally got your business what does he mean what does he mean he’s not forgot

what was the the yeah I I didn’t actually know that and that reference

there uh Tony response saying ah there’s my [ __ ] took a few to get your attention a remember when you used to

work for me and I fired your ass for not doing your job when you’re done signing your legal issues saying on the darling

yo Audi used to manage Tony I believe wasn’t it Audi I think uh I believe that

he was managed by Paradigm for a second he looked that up oh look last time I said something about Audi it wasn’t true

he got all he got it got all the set of me but I believe Tony they can’t say the

wrong stuff to leave I believe Tony was managed by Paradigm at the and he ended up leaving I don’t know just type in

Tony Ferguson manage my Paradigm Sports yeah yeah Tony Ferguson responded after

this is from 2022 accused uh Conor accused him of uh constantly changing

management which is why Paradigm no longer represents him so maybe at one time he did something along those lines

yeah yep I don’t know hey is I just want him

there but they’re both I want him to have they’re both in that position though yeah yeah I want him to have a good life I want yeah exactly I’m not

worried about Tony’s career I’m worried about I want Tony just to have you know there comes that point you know

and you said it and I agree with you that you know you got to give up your old life to start your

new one and then comes that point you got to figure out when that point is going to be that you’re going to start your new life and it’s not an easy thing to give up

your old life because it’s what you know but there’s so many things out there for Tony yeah so many things and Tony takes

the same work ethic that he’s had in fighting and puts it to

whatever he decides it’s always going to be a success yeah

no I know he just gotta have the same type of motivation he did in fighting to do anything else that’s it

all right next to what else you got first Dave all right we find out today uh Tuesday

that Mike Perry is the backup player for Logan Paul hell of a backup fighter I love that

I mean look look now Logan better pay Dylan not to [ __ ] I mean I’m like Dylan

man step aside dog let uh let Platinum Mike Perry step up in there Mike Perry I

think Knox [ __ ] Logan Paul out Mike Perry is a dog yeah Mike Perry is just a

Mike Perry’s one of those guys you know do you remember a guy named Tex Cobb

Randall Tex Cobb he fought Larry Holmes for the heavyweight champion believe so yeah he played football I want to say it

was that maybe it was Texas not Texas Texas Tech but he was played football

and then he became a professional boxer and he was also an actor but man he

could take a shot and he would just keep walking forward and he was Randall text Cobb was the the epitome of

the guy that you know you’ve had those guys that you know you could say in sparring but you’ve been in a fight you

hit the guy with everything you have it’s a perfect shot and they just go yeah and they come forward and you go ah

[ __ ] yeah That’s Mike Perry That’s What I Love About It Mike Perry’s got that just dog in him I

think I couldn’t ask for a better backup fighter I mean personally you know he’s gonna come to fight you know he’s going

to be there and you got to get me ready you got to give it up to bkfc that they’re allowing him to do it yeah I love that I love that about them perfect

yeah there was a lot of talk that Rocco was going to end up fighting uh Logan Paul also in a boxing match we’ll see if

that ever pans out for afterwards there was uh hey there was something else that I sent you Dave

uh yeah no no not that not that pull that up last um there’s another yeah there was

another thing that I said I wanted I think I sent you it was the thing with um Juliana Pena

Juliana yeah her and the oh maybe I didn’t send it to you damn it look it up

talking about because her and uh Bueno Silva they got into it well so Bueno

Silva’s gonna have problems right now yeah yeah well let’s talk about that too buenosovo tested positive for

performance enhancing drug which apparently lines up with her ADHD medication I’m I’m just saying it’s it’s

called the performance dancing drug am I right okay but it lines up but then you have Julianna Pena coming out

calling her the chitara the chitara living up to her nickname

back to being a curtain jerker on the Apex and can go and and there you go you might you fought you fought two 41 year

olds this year and you had to cheat in order to get it done can’t pass a drug test keep my name out of your mouth you

dumb broad she’s [ __ ] well Juliana Payne is [ __ ]

Juliana Pena first off Julia Juliana Pena has a very sharp tongue it is razor

sharp and she goes down to you she’s gonna say whatever the hell she wants but you know look

I don’t I don’t know what and and this is where you know there is a question when you’re talking about Bueno Silva

you’re saying she said look I I took this medication no doubt about it it’s prescribed to me it’s for ADHD

um I normally I stop it the week of you know the fight and that seems to have

worked in the past it didn’t work this time okay I want to know what does that drug that

she’s taking do to to enhance your performance does it

you know and this and the reason why I’m saying that in in that fashion Josh is you know everything that they have as a

performance enhancer because they have marijuana as a performance enhancer I’m sorry it’s not a performance yes I thought

they removed it there are plenty of places where Texas

okay you can’t get caught with marijuana performance answer and so

I’m not saying what she did you know is good or anything like that but I want to

know exactly what does that drug that she’s taking do to enhance your performance that’s my question

I don’t know I want to know can you imagine if Juliana Pena was your wife or your

girlfriend she would [ __ ] verbally abuse you and then after she verbally

abused the [ __ ] out of you she would beat the [ __ ] out of you probably with the bloody end of your dick

[Laughter] you were talking about chimpanzees before ripping something off well you

could have a girlfriend that could do that or a wife can you you better be a fighter to deal

with her she is her husband’s a Chicago Police he better be he better have a badge and a gun to protect him he’s got

a gun hahaha she is [ __ ] ruthless with her tongue

man like I do she but you know what she’s awesome yeah she is yeah she really is she’s an awesome

person uh you know she just is she gonna tell you what she thinks yeah I love that I mean she’s out there

she’s out there making it work man I love it I love it um yeah it sucks because look no matter

what uh Bruno self was gonna end up getting a six month suspension no matter what

yeah no matter what so she’ll be out for a while I don’t know how that affects the rankings I don’t know how they’re gonna put it but but look the reason why

some of this stuff is uh test positive is that it helps mask the age it helps mask

um the use of other drugs other yeah yeah could be so I mean I don’t know could be

all right and the last thing you got for us Dave all right I got a picture from UFC this

past weekend of alderman Sterling and Sean uh sugar Shawn facing off and in

the middle is Bruce Buffer I know you don’t have a comment about the fight you have a comment about something yeah Bruce Buffer man I love you brother I

love you and I’ve always kind of admired your uh your dress code but brother that thing looks like John

said it looks like it came with batteries I’m sorry man I man I’m trying to I’m

trying to end these shows with a little bit of laughter and some fun that that is hilarious man like look John you

brought up a good point earlier when we were talking about it off air I if this was worn in December like it’s like the

Grinch yeah or Christmas I would be like you know what good call good call because it lights up like a Christmas

tree it looks like it comes in August in Boston Bruce I love you you are you are the man

you have I can be an incredible career and you are a classy dude that usually dresses to the nines

tell Kings Bay they need to reinstall the battery pack on that packet okay it

will change colors as he moved it was like the it was like a you know the paint jobs you get on the guy on the

kids that have the the the drift cars the 19 year olds that have the souped up Japanese drift cars and they’ve got that

paint that just changes that was that jacket and I was just like yeah you should have saved that when he moved it

moved with it and it lit up even more and it went dim and it was yeah but here’s the thing though as I’m looking

at this picture I just realized brother if you not watch the movie Boomerang you gotta coordinate you have a blue face

watch on with a red and green jacket come on brother you got to get a green

face watch get a green face Rolex it’s about coordinating you gotta you gotta coordinate but you got to coordinate dude now you’re making it hold it you’re

making the man actually have to go out and buy

I gotta say this is the last thing though is Bruce it might not be the batteries it’s just your persona that’s

lighting that is true that is okay brother I mean it pops really well with the Monster energy drinks in the

background you know it’s Shawn them out and Sean O’Malley’s hair look at that you know all of Sean’s

tattoos and his pants all work with it the pink characters I mean [ __ ] Sterling’s got green hair his his uh

braids were dyed that’s true good stuff man maybe he just coordinated with them interesting all right wait that’s gonna

wrap up our show today and I hope you guys enjoy it make sure you guys tune in for the pfl tonight don’t miss it tune

in watch pfl tonight John take us away clay cargo click cargo clay cargo

Collard clay Collard again Shane Burgos will be a fantastic fight so go and

watch it now we’ll see

and we’re back and uh Sean’s the UFC champion now yes indeed you can find out

about that they might not have they might not have seen it it’s not everywhere in the planet yeah it’s weird it’s

weird I’m the biggest athlete in the world right now or at least I was

yesterday um wait you know what’s well know what’s crazy I fought

today yep I fought this morning you did that’s wild in well

I guess in East Coast time careful is you don’t drown I fought I fought at

12:30 in the morning Sunday August 20th it’s 300 p.m. August 20th how sweet are

jets yeah we hopped on this jet we hopped on this jet literally the car just pulls you up to the jet throws the

bags off throw them on the jet you get on get into these lazy boys you got snacks you just Cruise you can lay out you can do with Elena being a little

turd ski she was she was good for a little bit she wasn’t uh the week went smooth overall it it really did the

whole team went there The Encore was a freaking sweet Hotel felt like we’re in Vegas yeah but if we were in Vegas we’d

be at Resorts World man come on now yeah of course but the the the casino it felt like it was a a big yeah we had a we had

a good Suite we had a good spot we had a good team me Dan Garner Emon Tim Ezra

tank Brandon seven of us Garrett eight we had a we were just there we were doing our

thing and we did it Mama we did it second round KO yeah I mean the weight

cut the weight cut went smooth you showed up fight week about 100 what did you what were you

monday1 no 50 or 14 out of the look

something like that something like that the weight cut 15 over 16 over it just went smooth and it went smooth because

of how good your discipline is yeah I always know just like the further out I can stay disciplined I’m always un a

little bit lighter like well I could eat more but I’m like well then I have to just suffer a little bit more when I do the weight cut just keep it

clean keep it simple one thing Sean uh does that I think all amateur most Fighters should do is when you start

cutting weight record how much you were on these days record what you did on the

weigh in day like did you do 15 in the hot tub two 15s in the hot tub or 10 minutes on the bike first record that

because literally it just came off perfectly yeah and and having Dan Garner

there for the first time it made it just every it was always our weight Cuts were always pretty good he had a protocol for

us we kind of did stuff but having him there and just doing this and it was so much more smooth having him there

was a huge benefit for sure yeah and I mean Striker versus Grappler obviously

if we were healthy this fight camp we probably would have grappled and Wrestled a lot more and pro

realistically who knows but probably the exact same thing would have happened yeah but not being able to wrestle and

grapple versus aljo and then he got in there and across from me to show he didn’t look big at all but for for to us

we’re like holy he looks shredded he looks F well cuz we’re right behind you so we’re seeing your build right in

front of his build so I’m looking like a bit well you’re just looking a little bit smaller the skinny wise because I

was towering over him yeah I mean I was I could see the back of his heels pumped you were thinking that and then uh but

all week all week I’m like we just decided we’re not going to wrestle zero we’re not going to go on

our guard zero we’re not going to do do zero wrestling um the one thing people don’t

realize though is finishing a single egg on you is very very tough yeah which is good we’ll talk

about I I don’t want to give away all all our details and tricks but um for

just hitting mits for the last five weeks for our hard cardio sessions we pretty much did aerodine mits got

creative went on the went on the uh ladder we did a bunch of stuff where your heart rate was damn near 200 for 25

minutes yeah I have a high heart rate but yeah that was crazy literally didn’t grapple for 6 weeks still haven’t grappled till this day that was the most

grappling I did fight day I was I mean I know you were and I was confident it because not much run in this fight Camp

either but I was confident your legs are in shape for how hard you pushing on that Airy dude just every I mean

pretty much ride the Airy every day I do some kind of workout on the aird pretty much every day and I hated it

and then on the hard days the literally goal was just try to break you just Gass me 25 minutes break you 25

minutes I was hoping I’d lost that so I go back to threes I’m dead ass serious I was trying to lose I was like

that right hand dude has a mind of its own but dude people people just

don’t understand when going into a fight at this like this huge

everyone’s talking about it literally everyone’s talking about and know in your mind I haven’t grappled for 5 weeks

and I know this is going to Sprint at me and me how did you battle

that in your mind just focusing on what you control that’s it I just knew I was

C I knew for a fact that I was capable of knocking them out just could I do it August whatever

19th Saturday Night Live on pay-per-view could I have done it that night that was

the night I had to do it and I knew I could I just how crazy is it though like no matter how your

sparring goes what matters you show up in that moment in that 25 minutes on that day yeah I mean I was able to

kickbox no issue but even if someone barely pushed me up against the cage and just kind of grabbed my like put me in a

clinch I was like oh and then we had to like stop break like so I could kickbox but anytime it was any clinch couldn’t

but no one I could kickbox all right he has to grab me I’ve been training we only have small cages I’ve

only been sparring or doing anything in small cages I know how good the big cage feels and I was just confident that he’s

never fought anyone like me bro you’re you’re in that in that big cage in your style and your confidence

right now you’ll be a nightmare to fight for any I mean people in

here good people some of the best wrestlers in the world some of the best fighters in the world they know your

game and they still can it’s tough taking you down so I don’t know bro I

was I couldn’t there was so much relief off my shoulders for real I felt

that yeah fight week was definitely battled more demons than I ever had but it wasn’t it never it never got out of

hand it never kept me up super late where I was like it literally to us just and your ice cold it’s crazy when

those thoughts come in you know how to deal with them I just deal with them yeah it’s a super power but I also think it’s just the confidence I

have from doing the I’ve done yeah and I mean I put in as much work as I possibly could without grappling I’m

like I did everything I possibly could I was trying to let that heal so in my mind I was like maybe it

is heal when I just walk in there is healed and I can grapple with I mean I’ve been grappling for a long time not in 6 weeks but I’m like

everything I did leading up to those until I got injured like I’ve been training a lot years of grappling yeah so I was like all right and how perfect

was that sequence when I I threw a kick if I if that’s if I would have got choked by Falling and him not getting a

good entrance I threw a kick was it a te head kick I don’t know and I just fell on my ass and then he gets in

up against the cage and I saw his his right arm go really deep on the single like and when the right arm goes really

deep on the leg they’re going to be able to get to your hips with their left hand that’s what he wanted oh and you did a

good job with your collar ties your frames and then people like I said single legs finishing single eggs on you

like good luck boom got out hit him with that right hand dink good

night yeah I get more nervous for the press conference than I do the fight I think I think Joe’s going to maybe watch

that back because from my angle I’m like alj Jo’s getting traumatic brain TR me he’s getting up and you said you

saw his ey eyes roll back I feel like I saw him like roll back a few times I was like oh my God my hand well this hand

just hurts from Hammer fisting him and then and then uh even when I went over to say like dude you’re a

Legend um he his eyes were still up his face was cut he’s just bleeding like yeah he’s super

tough though obviously he’s not going to want to fight the end unless he’s out cold I’m I’m PR I’m pumped that he’s

getting a fat payday cuz I like Al man I in this whole fight this whole leadup I didn’t say anything really mean about

him because I I do like him he’s a good person he was a great Champion I uh I know that’s what that’s

why it made it hard to just even really talk cuz we’re like God he’s he’s probably pretty cool dude yeah’s I mean

he always seems pretty cool and he’s so skilled I’m not going to go out there and like he’s not that good I’m not going to make up so yeah I mean

I thought the fight obviously didn’t have to talk really to sell that fight the biggest bantamweight fight in

UFC history the biggest gate at the TD Garden 7. what four million or

something breaking records and the energy in there was weird but it’s weird

cuz now we expect it so much so I mean I know you’re like that too but when we walk out there it’s almost like you’re just so in the zone just complet really

calm even me in the corner I was like well whatever’s going to happens happen I might as well stay calm as possible I

think that’s what it is I just literally accept whatever happens

happens my biggest fear was like getting seriously injured like like a serious

injury where I wasn’t May mentally brain or some physical like snap I don’t know

mostly mental I guess the concussions but see with that for me I wasn’t really worried too much about that because I

was like he’s he’s going to try to choke you so it’s like worst comes to worse you tap out maybe he might stretch your

back a little bit cuz that body triangle I didn’t want I did not want that g a lie I’m like do not get

my B don’t body trangle me bro yeah but yeah I think I just literally accept and

I truly like like if I lose I got a jet home in a couple hours and be home and life’s good back home so I’m

not really that worried about it not going to get on the Internet or I’ll make funny videos like that was

easy I ID just troll and just be whatever and life would be fine and I truly like feel like that and it just

gives me this acceptance to not really like if I lose what’s the worst

thing that’s going to happen people talk on Twitter dude I won and Henry and all these are talking

I won you didn’t just I mean you you beat the out of it his five last

five were peteran win Peter Yan or no Cory Peter Yan win Peter Yan win TJ dhaw

win Henry cejudo win his last five fights I mean yeah he’s still still the I mean he was pound-for-pound

number seven I think so I think number seven fighter in the world and it’s crazy people are going to be like

now they’re going to think he’s not as good as he is cuz I sniped him

well no he’s not good he’s that he’s good I did I was more nervous for that fight by far than any fight

ever Peter yon fight I was pretty confident that one I was still had confidence but I was

like all right we’ll see and dude and aljo goes to the press conference literally makes no excuses he he could

have all in the world like blah blah blah blah but he just doesn’t have any shows he’s a Champ but dude

looking at his build across the cage I was like he looks like a 45 he’s yeah he he’s shredded I I’ve landed some

good body shots though and I don’t give a how shredded you are I’ve I’ve dropped shredded people with body shots

if I hit them enough times they’ll fall and I was hitting I was Landing some really good body shots couple straights

the body couple right hands the body the game plan just we had a game plan I didn’t overthink it a lot of times

Fighters can just overthink situations and overthink stuff I had a game plan I said I’m want to go out there and

execute it and that’s my only option and if I don’t I lose it whatever but I’m going to go out there and just execute and the game plan was like

simple it was simple we knew exactly I mean box box let’s box this

first round I even said John anic on the pre on the pre-fight calls I’m like this this fight might be boring this fight

this first round could be very boring a win for me is not getting taken down

every on all the judges scorecards I supposedly lost that first round which I don’t I haven’t really watched the first

round but I didn’t really think little for you at the end where he put you against fence and was upper cutting you yeah see see I didn’t I wasn’t playing

for to win a decision I wasn’t going into that fight at all zero trying to win rounds didn’t even cross my mind I

was going to go in there my only option to win was put his lights out cuz if it was going to go 55 like what

are the chances I don’t get taken down and he takes me back the chances are probably pretty high so good

at that position yeah I mean and a lot of the punches to the body dude it’s hard to shoot through those punches to

the body it were just walking forward with knees TS up the middle it’s like you got to shoot into a you could

shoot into a t and that is not going to feel good I mean and I guess it doesn’t matter but in his last three

fights in the first round he pressures someone and tells they kick and when they kick he catches the kick runs them

down so that’s why I really wanted him to think we were going to kick in the first round or to think he were going to come out and throw a flying knee or

think we’re going to throw Marlon Mar’s or something um and I I don’t know I don’t know if it fro froze him up I

don’t know it made not of at all but dude the plan was beautiful it was a per

perfect game plan but the fact that perfect game plan but the fact that you could do it with with those mental

battles with that energy of the arena with who the you’re fighting and who he just beat that’s special freaking

nature when I before I walked out I kind of always talked to how a talk myself all right like let’s so let’s let go let

my higher self take over feel like I can do that through my breath and I felt like I remember thinking I’m going to

channel this energy on the walk out into a right hand I literally felt like I had that thought in my head like

I’m just going to use this energy I’m not going to like I’m just going suck it up into a right hand bro

well it’s it’s nice we’ve been around so so many times I mean around so many coaches World title fights and people

get their energy high they try to get up for the moment and they it’s a 20 25 minute fight bro you have to

save that energy all day until that 25 minutes some people warm up so long

they’re anxious they’re bounced around but we learned that I mean learned that lesson from other people I took a couple

naps it’s weird fighting that late bro we fought at 12 we fought 12:30 in the

morning it’s like I don’t I didn’t even fight Saturday it’s

insane yeah and then I mean even in the in the warm-up too it’s like God Way’s like almost finished her in the first

and our warm- Up’s perfect at that point I’m like if we walk right now we’re perfect and then she doesn’t finish her and then the second round she gets her

back and I’m like get a little more a little more minuts like a couple more seconds then we’re perfect again then it

went all the way so that was another 40 minutes sitting in that locker room I know we recording J no I’m

joking High yeah no that was annoying I’m like just finish her but uh yeah bro

the way you handle that pressure is is unreal bro that’s crazy that I think yeah it’s still I don’t even

know if it’s settled in yet it’s literally like that Michael Jordan type athlete like you give you the rock you

you’re the playmaker dude just that night I just know I just I show up on the night that needs to be

show there’s Saturdays sparring days where I really try to show up but sometimes it’s not my day but I

just if it’s fight day it’s my day yep I just know how to I gu show up but the yeah after party nothing

really too much cuz we didn’t even get out of the Arena till like 3: I felt like 233 late as nek boys were

there super pumped that they’re always be they’re showing the support showing love Jimmy gambles was

hammered Steve was hammered love the boys it was so late there but when we got back to the hotel

it was just like a lot of people just like yeah it was so do we had to

get the security to escort the elevator and stuff and then just hanging out in the room eating some pizza reminiscing

just just thinking about the night it’s you know what’s crazy is you don’t see you won’t see this maybe not I

mean you don’t see this but pay-per-view Main Event finish they posted the full

round you they don’t even post clips of the Finish because ESPN owns the rights and all this stuff that was

everywhere Sports Center ESPN UFC every single I don’t think they’ve ever done

that and I don’t know they just went out to the higher ups and said it let’s let’s run it let it rip let it rip the

views the is crazy I went back and watched cuz I didn’t watch him as much as this fight cuz like I said I was

I was pretty nervous for this fight but the Peter Yan fight I was really love watching the pros picks everyone pick against me but this fight

I’m like I don’t I’m not even going to I hardly even thought about the fight I try to fight think about the

fight the least I said I have a game plan I’m showing up in shape I’m going to execute so I didn’t even really like watching fight at all I

was watching Survivor and Jimmy uh Jerry Springer yeah um what was I saying uh what you’re

watching all week and stuff just getting your mind off it fight day a little bit we’ll watch some some counters I was going somewhere with that forgot I think

you got it I think you hit that on what was I talking about that weed’s got me cooked too bro oh yeah the after party

I’m dude how good did it feel hitting a puff of a joint well you I hadn’t smoked in probably five weeks or

something I mean I didn’t smoke all that week no weed that week oh I took and I was trying to make that video you had a

that video was your idea the you’re the man I’m the man that video went are the yeah that video was good

you laugh at that one Jay so I hit I tried to make that video like three or four times so I’m puffing that right and

I’m getting my de sucked while the sunrise that was lit I just love it just

enjoy made me happy oh the pros picks that’s what I was talking about remember and I went off I I didn’t watch it

this fight so after the fight 6:00 a.m. I’m watching I was sending you links to all the pros 30 people picked aljoe and

some of them are so confident well I enjoyed going back to the Twitter people because the Twitter people some

of those media things like what the Al was going to kill this guy is not like just I’m like holy you guys are

smart you guys know but D honestly I feel like just I I’m different so maybe

they just never they didn’t expect that I was capable of that yeah for sure and I don’t I don’t necessarily blame him I

mean the odds if you look at it who he beat his last five fights my last five fights his style style you’ve never seen

me I mean you’ve seen Peter ywn take me to down a couple times literally literally that’s why yeah which you

can’t be mad at people but the way they were saying like they couldn’t wait to see you get killed and that’s what

was annoying but yeah they your last fight you watch pet ya you get against the fence you’re pretty gash

your leg your feet are together you’re not really going to sprawl you get dumped to your butt easy so they think wow if Peter can do that still can do

that with ease MH yeah it wasn’t the case that was

remember that no I think I think I remember being blacked out and hearing about that that was last night oh yeah

no I didn’t I didn’t drink well I didn’t see that send me that is it funny me uh Arthur came up Jimmy

gamble Kyle came up and we we we sipped a couple happy dads I didn’t even finish one I don’t think I was like I’m not really going to drink it’s 5

a.m. G the show yeah gamble shirt off belt on reminiscent on his

tusy hell of a time just screaming it was pretty fun oh yeah but

that was good that was good uh yeah trust the Brad man that’s what I got WR down here towards the process and then

uh the Cheeto thing worked out nice Cheeto beat Pedro but Cheeto he’s he needs to settle down a little

bit he’s like sign I’m ready to sign the contract I’m next for line I’m like chill bud I finished Pedro in two

rounds yeah you went to a decision in a boring fight the only reason you wouldn’t get a title shot after that

fight if it if I wasn’t for me so you need to settle down or I’ll pick Henry cejudo and don’t think that I

don’t have the power to pick who I want to fight right now I mean God so you better go on Twitter and say

daddy will you fight me and I’ll think about it but you need to settle down acting like you call the shot right

now because I’ll I’ll go box Dante I’ll fight Henry I’ll wait for Corey you need to chill out with

your ugly ass outfits yeah you know what I’m saying he’s acting like oh yep I’m getting the title he’s like title shot

next you need to settle down yeah put some oh I bet imagine Henry in

his in his little his little chair oh his little chair with his little clothes on just probably like probably

like Flex and pissed with his Olympic gold medal Alo dumped him four times I

know I told him though I I genuinely told him like if you want to come down to por I’ll work on that no work no

that’s that’s real take down defense you teach him a wizard you can teach him a limp leg you can help him a lot with his

footwork just like yeah cuz he not to get in yeah get in the center of the Octagon but and a lot of his timing

punch back there’s a lot you can help him with and I would I genuinely would help the little guy yeah so I don’t know

I I I sent that invitation off but he’s oh dude I could do I wish there was a video and they probably is remember they

took a video when I fought Peter Yan and his wife she was going yeah you remember that I guarantee

they have a video and they don’t want to post it because they were he probably hit her no I’m kid I’m kidding

but he’s probably so mad he probably just a hole like really low in a wall

yeah oh yeah can you imagine oh he’s probably not happy oh

and Darren till he said bet everything you own on Sean yeah aljo is gonna take him out

easy in the first round oh man Darren’s having a tough time getting a win these

days yeah I mean lost everything but also I mean if you say it like like meanly but also if you pick someone to

lose it doesn’t mean you don’t like him no no no but when you say it a certain way like like he’s going to get

SM well still even then may doesn’t seem you don’t like him yeah true cuz a lot of people there was a lot of guys like

God man I really like Al but I think uh you know I think G was going to beat him but then there’s guys like oh yeah

I was going to smoke him strong Strickland he predicted it pretty close that lose that was close yeah uh he’s

fighting dude it’s crazy they’re fighting soon like three weeks fighting Izzy that’s pretty cool Izzy picked you

yeah is he picked Sean oh picked me yeah he did so no vul picked aldra but vul

had nothing but great things to say about me that was cool uh yeah we even told kind of Alo at the press conference

like bro you don’t want vul oh yeah before the fight he’s talk about going F vul I’m like dude chill let’s be realistic here G I ain’t calling

for vul but I mean Alo big huge he’s I mean he’s not it’s a

different it’s a different fight he’s not the sniper counter puncher you are he’s more of a a bigger guy not that he

wouldn’t get his ass kicked but it could be a sweet fight I was also talking you know that was my little way of talking

like come on you don’t want to fight Alo but if Elia goes up there and beats vul I’d go up to 45 and fight

elah um I just don’t think IL will fight or will beat vulk IL would be a i’ be another fight I’d be like this

skilled yeah skilled I don’t know how huge of if he

went out there and beat vul cuz he is doing a good job building his name his performances do that themselves

yeah I guess like a huge fight for fight fans that know like skill like this guy’s skill this guy’s skill wow

it’s going to be great match I wonder what Connor I feel like he never I feel he always watches all the pay-per-views always chimes in always says something

something I mean he has before he’s gave me my you know my praise and I’m just looking for a little like a little shout

out I thought he I thought I was hoping we’d see something too of him just fired up cuz people put him knocking out Jose

right next yours and it was so Sim I do every fight I watch Connor fights every single fight week I’m watching Connor

so you know just want just want to see a little love from Connor want to do some drugs with yeah maybe we said

something back in the day but it’s always been good things I thought I probably said I’ll fight him yeah

probably something crazy I yeah fight week but bro seriously

having to cut the weight having to I mean eat all that tiny stuff with cameras in your face constantly that was

CRA the dude the documentary I don’t think we really told people at all no there’s the the UFC shooting a sick

documentary like some behind the scen with like Hunter Dana business side uh me I think Jon Jones or Stipe is

going to be on this like documentary so they’re following me around like the last nine days before the fight like

damn you know talking about like my injury and like not being able to MMA Spar they had footage of K just

kickboxing sparring and then I mean you’re cutting weight and you’re you’re doing media literally nonstop so it’s

like that media takes a lot of energy out and then you have the three c three people just camera c will you put

a mic on you take a mic off will you put a mic on uh it’s like yeah it was it was a lot but it’s going to be worth it when

that comes out and those guys were cool those were working hard too they were they were doing their job

yeah and they were they definitely didn’t want to be in the way at all they were they were very Cog like conscious of like not wanting to around and

good at good at what they did I can’t I can’t wait to see the shots they got yeah that is crazy just cutting

weight will be an interesting thing for people just cuz like oh my God it

probably doesn’t even look as bad as it feels because I try to just just do it don’t just do it but I

there was times I just wanted to get out of the hot tub because I was so hot and my heart was racing so bad and I

was just like you you could you can Panic for sure in the hot tub or under those

blankets if you can’t control your breath well I had I was saying something real smart in my brain if I if I

can’t or once I lose control of my breath I’ll lose control of my mind so I was constantly just trying to follow my

breath and keep like some kind of count in and out and just play with my breath because that do being that hot for that

long I mean you do 15 minutes in the hot tub 15 minutes under the blankets 15 minutes in the hot tub you’re doing an

hour Well yeah if you literally just I mean your your your body temperature is whatever whatever temp but you just

sucked out two three l pounds and you’re about to go back in and try to suck out more when you’re already depleted scary

it’s scary dude and you just it’s I dread it if I fight in December I’ll dread it right now like no I don’t

want it but we all do it I mean it’s not like I’m not we all do it the

thing is though you’re doing it in a healthy way that’s going to make your longevity a lot longer shout out Dan

Garner baby yeah for sure compared to people who just like they’re they can tough it out but they were eating

and the water’s just not coming off and it’s just like they just have to legit kill themselves and then they rehydrate

the wrong way but yeah having d Garner there to help you rehydrate go to Whole Foods with you big dick Dan Garner that

was fire what else I mean after party I didn’t do much didn’t sleep slept for maybe an hour maybe I don’t

know something like on there sun was Rising it was

uh that was crazy I I want to I do have a couple little injuries that I need to I know I said I want to fight in

December and I still do so I just need to figure out I’ll keep everyone updated you know how how many weeks would that be three weeks long time three weeks

hope I mean yeah 3 weeks to December no three months uh I would

probably start camping October I’d probably take September just heal up start uh

October well depends on when in December if it’s the end or the beginning uh my hand from Hammer

fisting and boom my my just this I don’t know if it’s just it might just be really sore cuz I can move it around uh

legs are a little beat up he landed some leg kicks but a lot of them are just Shin to shin oh and I’m like I

know that hurts you too so quit throwing that dude so my shins hurt a little bit nothing crazy uh my rib is

super sore and I haven’t really watched it back enough to where to see if he did land a good hard kick or if it

was literally from that little bit of scrambles we got in not even scrambles uh the little wrestling so I’m going to

have to really let that heal not do I guess anything which really

sucks cuz that’s the only way those muscle strains heal and I looked into I’m like I went

took got MRI want to see if I get a cortisone shot for it to just like numb it for the fight and they said it’s too

close to the lung to do anything that’d be a big risk I was like well it I guess I’ll just tough it

out well God there all their Corners were hanging over like Mor’s like hanging over Ali Quint is like smiling

at me like these gonna get killed I bet yeah they I mean they were cool after

though I mean they’re respectful and cool after and I always had uh I mean respect for Ray Longo been in it for a

minute yeah I like Ray I like Matt Sarah Matt Sarah is a funny bro he’s just a character yeah

uh maybe we did it you know what I’m saying what else we got it’s just we

still probably hasn’t really sunk in that you’re you’re the champion of the world right now I I really don’t I don’t know how to make it sink in I don’t know

if it’s like a time I know I did a video the other uh this morning was like what’s up guys UFC champ and I was like

whoa yeah I heard you making that I was like weird bro seeing the belt around my

skinny ass waist I bet Al like this belt weighs more than me I

bet Al couldn’t wait to grab a hold of me though I I didn’t feel in those exchanges I didn’t feel like he was

crazy strong I’m not weak I have like a little decent strength I’m never the strongest guy I never like going to

overpower a really but I’m always going to be more surprisingly strong I think than people think Bro

you’ve been working on your core and L and just your legs and just your build with Brandon for so many years every

single week and he’s literally the best training there is for fighting I believe like strength conditioning wise

yeah we’re doing we’re doing the right it’s funny people don’t see like the dedication to the some people do like the true Jin like that are on the

Pod we talk about training I guess we don’t even really talk too much about but it’s like it’s just living this lifestyle for so many years not

getting off track sometimes we party with the boys a couple weekends and people think we’re doing that

every day but we really don’t do other than train well we we’ve treated it like our full-time job for the past

well I mean I’ve been 15 years yeah since I well since I

was 19 to now I never had a job all I did was train train to fight be in the

be in the gym learning and for you yeah how how long now well I started

kickboxing when I was 16 and then when did you start your full-time job when you yeah when I moved here I was 18 19

so nine years yeah been had it for a minute bro yeah and working hard

yeah and training with like Tenino five six seven years ago that’s what

literally almost in every area trying to find people that can beat us yeah just experts in every field I mean Dan

Garner’s an expert you’re an expert tank K’s an expert Brandon is an expert yeah

like the guys MMA lab just the studs coming up Mario Batista went out there and got the job done yep Kyler got

the job done earlier Marcus like we’re coming off four wins in like month and a a month yeah the lighter weights we

might have got four wins in August that the MMA lab the the mecca for those

lighter weights it’s unreal there’s no other team out there like that from at those weights yeah with

that level of Partners and we got the bonus I told you I said I’ll give you a

bonus if we go go out there and finish aljo they got me fired like it really it really did they got me fired oh

I’m sure well I know I was like I just I know you you were going to be in it anyway in the fight in the I

knew I wasn’t worried about that but I knew like I want to get extra

fired up and uh I mean I did a little more film study than I usually do uh we

have our boy TJ who does a breakdown for us most of it and I go back to those and I watch those and I watch those and I watch the Tendencies he does and try to

form your and your your stuff through that and it worked out perfect

yeah the you added to like what I already kind of had in my head on what I wanted to do and then you like hey this

would work this would be good this would be good this would be good and we just form a solid game plan that’s executed and it’s nice cuz

if we if I think it’s something too and then we’re working on it we’re working Spar on it you tell me like I just don’t really feel comfortable doing it that

moving this way or this way it’s like okay let’s change let’s change it up I’m glad you tell me that yeah damn instead

just listening and sending it you know yeah no it’s crazy how long we’ve been at it going yeah and then Uncle cha you

know Uncle CH loves loves the Timbo sugar show maybe not the Timbo sugar show show but yeah he likes the

show in the cage always talking about how good of a coach you are and that’s so crazy uh Henry cejudo

just tweeted hey Ronald McDonald AKA trans Barbie at Shan congrats on Landing a punch get ready to go down faster than

Logan Paul fiance in the bathroom of the SPs are we allowed to laugh at that or is that mean laughing at those well that

mean if you if you had a natural giggle to when you read it I mean I I I don’t know why I did maybe because I’m high

but he said get ready to go down fashion of Logan Paul’s fiance sign the contract Island boy oh

yeah he’s just adding on to Dylan stuff yeah Island Boy why is he throwing shade at uh these guys need to

understand that be nice to me I am the king ask me maybe they’ll maybe they

maybe they will start to learn if he says hey Daddy will you fight me I’ll say I’ll

think about it but this call me a trans Barbie what if I really was trans

and I’m offended now now I’m not going to fight you I was thinking about transitioning well maybe he might want

to learn some takedown defense from you I would teach I would literally teach him while we fight you know you you

could probably help him with tactics bro this guy thinks he’s so good

it’s so funny I loved when Connor was just roasted him after the Alo fight saying oh there the he was saying

it was so funny it’s it would suck being 53 though I I get it you know what I

mean you gotta life’s tougher life’s life’s taller

tougher anyway big fight coming up Joe Rogan messed me cool cool Robert

Griffin the thir messed me Kevin Durant tweeted at me that was cool biggest name in sports right now it’s crazy

done that Sports Center’s top 10 I remember sitting on the couch watching sports center ESPN all the time looking

at the athletes make sick plays like knowing I was like I can I could do that

I could do like that I can do I can make plays I’ve been making plays since I was little in like Little

League games diving catches in the baseball field like nothing recorded cuz you don’t have recordings back

then but I was like I could do sweet like that and here we are it’s got to be on Sports Center

poop stain Al Alman poop stain that was a good one you had that one I was like that was a good one I gotta use that

well you know you said Alman poop stain I said aljo poop stain oh yeah you said aljo poop stain I was like wow we were

we were thinking stuff for the Press huh oh the Aiden Ross one more comfortable yeah that was I felt like I

was I mean if I had something to do with streaming like I sit in front of a camera and I get the concept I kind of

get what Aiden was yeah I felt I felt just at home this was the first time not streaming yeah that that one seemed more

uh I mean you had those on liners too that Sports liner good one then the morab one was good you had you had some

good ones to the Press too holy Cheetos here that’s kind of funny honest where the Cody Garber at yeah

those ones worked out good uh the Aiden Ross one was pretty I needed that press conference cuz the one in

Abu Dhabi I did not do too hot I was got melted in your suit I’m just like my hair look like my

glass I was just like cuz Danny’s not there to fix it yeah Danny would be in there to do my hair every time was way

and and all his boys are looking at you right front row and I just look like a prostitute I’m looking at like a little

lady boy that Peter was hooking up with before he flew out yeah like God yeah so I needed a couple on liners but

uh God I wanted to go to kill Tony so bad but I’m like I don’t want to go I don’t want to I don’t want to get on an

airplane if it was Private again I would but that shit’s crazy so I don’t

really want to I’m my God I don’t I don’t want to fly dude I don’t want to get on

an airplane yeah I’m good with not dude so but then again you’re thinking about

having a boys weekend huh I mean we need to have a proper celebration and Mariah agreed she said you we need to have a

proper celebration yeah I’ll see if I’m allowed to Dany been acting up so uh I might not

be able to but if you guys go out bring this with dude I will tell Schmid no shirt that thing ain’t

wrapping around his gut no yeah we we need to have a proper proper celebration with the with the boys and uh let’s just

let it rip yeah was let it rip get a little arbn B down

J downtown uh have a hell of a time uh Theo vau tweeted it’s sugar season

congrats Jin’s Rejoice bro Theo randomly hit me up it’s

like yo I’m in Boston I said dude it would be sweet to just like say what’s up he came

weren’t planning on recording anything like Garrett was just there recording and we recorded a hourlong

podcast no mics no nothing just sat down weren’t even talking to cameras we’re just having we’re talking

definitely had to take some out um but it was just he is so funny I haven’t

had like a hard belly laughs like that for a while oh he uh bro he just

came in ripping stories literally like it was just a personal podcast for us that we could just reply with too

uh that was funny I dude yeah Theo’s so funny bro I wish I wish I wish we lived or at least had more

interactions with him or even Andre schs like or someone like him if he was like your neighbor and he just didn’t do

anything but just works outside so you talk to him whenever he’s always watering and gardening or or working on

a he’s got like a little mechanic shop junkyard back there that would be sweet he would be a perfect mechanic

neighbor oh did you see this I I’ll send it to you Jay I wouldn’t be surprised if they they do that they got to Bro put me

on the UFC game oh my God they got to what the they better they better up my attributes ever that

I still can’t believe that played out like I’m pretty sure I wrote in my journal like this this how that

how that was going to play out I probably rewatched it 50 times 50 hund I

mean I still haven’t seen the first round good we’ve seen it from Mariah point of view Mariah shout out railio

bro yep Rao getting a suite for all the girls

and uh so they could watch the fight and big dick Dan Garner was up there they said the view is sweet the the

Arena’s so cool cuz the high up seats are over the top of the cage so you’re not like far away and high you’re just

like high so it’s uh pretty cool that every seat in there was

crazy it’s yeah I mean it was just like everyone was saying I didn’t

really look around a ton but it was they said it was just a sea of your merch I did see I did notice that walking out in

the Octagon looking around like dude everyone at Old merch new merch I was

like Jesus Christ This is a main event I remember I won and I I H like

flipped a Bott a glass of water it was just like really what the dude I

because I’m I’m sure I mean Dana said in the postf fight interview he asked 70

reporters in there there was 71 reporters in there he said who honestly I don’t M win in this fight one guy

raised his hand the dude from Montana no yeah one dude had me winning the fight the guy from Montana the dude from

Montana that’s fire yeah so and they were just I mean I’m sure Dana and

Hunter and Sean were like you know probably thinking like oh

big fight but they’re looking at it the same way freaking everyone else is but how easy Peter took you down and you

went to all fours multiple times Al’s expert back taker yeah you watched him

take Peter back one of like after the fight I’m like I’m so glad I didn’t even give him that opportunity yep I’m

not and people it’s weird CU either people think I just don’t know how to Grapple at all I feel like that’s like

the case M I’m not that bad it’s I mean we haven’t even had to show it yet I

fought Peter that that one I did I did some good did some the wrong

but yeah I mentally was not really wrestling in that fight and I made some mental mistakes uh that I could fixed

with with mental I had the skills but uh just yeah decision making even even after that fight though just working as

much as we work been working with Bryce and Ezra and just all those guys dude I swear to God I come in here and

I’m like I I get beat my ass beat well it’s nice in this gym too we got that corner with all the mats and then I can

put these wrestlers on you and have them try to Corner you and cut you off and just and all of them are really padded

so we can wrestle hard against those mats yeah that’s sweet dude my Warehouse is getting built right

now I got the dirt laid the concrete’s going to be coming soon going to be getting the warehouse set up 4,000 ft

going to start hanging some posters and get a fulls siiz octagon in there hit some deadlifts while we do drugs yeah

Metallica I love caffeine have our ARS too dude yeah oh I’ll have a wall

where we just unload it um the boys Schmitty Brandon Sono

Brock War there’s so many Obin that came out there yeah Tony Redbox L Fran pre

real mom gaming uh Jim time big ship all these people were out there supporting

that’s crazy yeah the boys all lost their voice bro they went out hard

Friday night I was seeing their stories and Friday night after before the fight then Saturday night doing it again

those boys are going to come back with a serious recipe of son sent me a pick of a rather large chick hanging around War

likes couch I saw that she was RA rather large I’m not saying just rather large

I’m saying large oh like it looked like she was giving him a back massage is

that what it was that looked like a post I’m going to go back and look was that in the gr group chat War like you

better own up which is cool War like it no yeah I don’t give a oh

it definitely was a back [Music] massage holy sh and he said don’t worry

nothing happen send it to Jay she big send it to

Jay no she’s not she’s got a nice she actually has a nice butt yeah she actually does Jay look real quick no

don’t look put it on the screen for I put Onre and nothing wrong with that because no you hate that show there’s

there’s people that like that a lot so don’t worry about that young lady J what

G uh shout out everyone that bought the sugar merch we really

released that the bantamweight champion merch baby get that I was going to drop it even if I

lost I was still going to get bandmate champ sh merch were you really that yeah I was like it dude I’m champ I

don’t give a seriously oh yeah Ryan Garcia thank you

for bringing that up it’s like dude I didn’t what do you why you trying to pick a fight with me I didn’t call I called him out before he lost to Dante

then he lost jante like why would I fight him he’s a loser I’m fighting winners I’m fighting what did

you reply to him on about the oh yeah he said uh he said this boxing different

than MMA I’d come back for a tuneup fight and knock you out I said like you got knocked out or

different and then he said something your tuneup fight or something it’s like dude I don’t want to fight you you lost

yeah I’m trying to do big pay-per-views Floyd Floyd dant I guess it’s dant I’ve

been calling him Dante that jaante but it’s dant D

Dantley Dantley yeah so I want big fights like that I’m not saying I want this next would I take it next yes but I

understand I got what I got to do got to go out there and you know build some pay-per-views get some fat fat

numbers I’m so curious what this one did do you like when Ian Gary said that no one’s watching this fight for

me uh I hey I get it you got to be you got to be a little delusional I mean I said some like that Pride too like

when I was on pay-per-views like he just a young buck I mean he was so mad it was because I shared his video of Lloyd his

manager saying that Jeff Neil pulled out cuz his hurts yeah because Ian before at Old fights was always cool

yeah he’s super cool to us and uh but I shared that he posted it I just re-shared it and said that’s funny

Vayner Sports is you know representing you and saying that one of the MMA fighters pulled out cuz they’re Pussers

that’s just really I mean it’s just a man manag thing to do so I res shared it and was just shedding some light on it

and now he’s you know upset but what am I going to do he beat me up he too goddamn big this video of all

the people’s reaction over Chan watch Cory San wow oh Cory was a good one when

he said I’m going to L that was fire um oh Michael oh that’s cool seeing

the reactions just who’s that patchy mix Gilbert Burns Chandler oh my God Cory and one

tricep was that Ryan Hall next yeah Cory hates me cuz I make money and he doesn’t

think I should make money people say oh look at your last fight you I’m like dude I just beat Peter Jan and

alamain Sterling I’m building a resume beat Peter beat Pedro beat Cheeto

beat aljo I’ll beat some good guys and Dana walked right up to me after and he said you have no idea how much money

this guy’s going to make yeah he did say that but we’re the dumb ones but I’m stupid I didn’t take where take

different fights no Dana I had a good conversation with Dana on the phone for like five minutes Dana and Hunter just

talking they were just yeah saying like this was the biggest bantamweight fight in history before the fight even played out and how pumped

they were and how the just just how pumped they were is you know for me and uh yeah I I wonder when it’s going

to hit in I was telling Danny on the way here I’m like What’s tomorrow she’s like Monday I’m like what the am I going

to do tomorrow I thought I got is comp training here comp train come get some coffee and I mean and people who listen

do not come to get pictures and autog this is not the place to do it this is our workplace so if you come I I want

will want to and want to be nice but we can’t just be doing that when we have to come to work yeah I feel bad too cuz

there’s I did so much people don’t even realize how much media did this week and there’s just all the fans which is

cool you got the sugar merch you love it made you feel good sometimes if I’m not in a great mood and I’m just

like exhausted I’m never really mean to anybody but if I have like I’m like kind of attitude cuz I’m tired man well

especially if if if we’re like we got to be able to go home and come to training and not be bugged too much like couple

here and there no Big E but when it’s all the time and people that aren’t even training at the gym and they think they’re going to come it’s like yeah I’m

going to I think I might get a helicopter and just pull up up top they’re cool watch this video so

funny Ben Davis posted it

that’s the guy you had on you that’s funny he actually good at that that was actually a good

video that was funny I think that was someone else I don’t think that was Ben Davis oh that kid that kid looked like

he had done a video of mine before mhm I think so I think so damn that I

was surprised Ali Quinto was going to be cool I thought he was going to be a little after cuz way he was looking at me I was like looking at I’m like you too at before but then

after he was he was cool he said congrats he was a nice guy yeah I feel like he didn’t he doesn’t like me but

uh I I just feel like not a lot of people like me it’s funny cuz I mean there’s quite a few that do but no there

is that for sure but the pros picks is funny like I just don’t like his hair and like like what is there not like

about my hair it’s cool you know I need to get a champ tat

on my face somewhere that’s probably what’s next that’s probably what’s next it was crazy how much money they were saying Dana was gambling cuz he got in

like Thursday night went and put 250,000 down 100,000 got up left like next night

won another 100,000 the third night was down a million came back to

1.125 but who knows who knows those are just stories stories but that’s crazy he

does that then he gets on a jet flies to another city Wild G Teddy Atlas tweets say

hello to the new new king McGregor is out no Ali is in yeah that’s that’s a huge com and I wonder if that’s why like

Conor wouldn’t but dude imagine me and Conor on a pay-per-view right now me and Connor in December does that do 1.5 mlie

VI and that two and then after we get the Afterparty with them too both Kos I

mean I I don’t want to see Chandler KO because he’s such maybe fight someone else yeah yeah I’m like dude where’s

that yacht G let’s go yeah that forari one

Lamborghini uh then uh Teddy Atlas says when you’re in the W when you’re in with a great counter puncher like well Ali

you cannot reach in Sterling reached in dink dink actually it was dink it was

yeah it was just a dink floating back like that dude and I said leading up this fight and I said in every interview

I did pretty much all the big ones I said for me this is life for death I cannot let him take me down I can’t do

it a lot of it was I I wouldn’t have had that same mindset if it wasn’t for my

injury cuz I would have been like I can survive on the ground I’m not he’s not going to 100% take me down and just choke me like I’m pretty decent

off my back get my guard back play my guard do that whatever so but the fact that I knew this was hurting in every I

was just say I’m like this is like I can’t let it touch the ground I have to keep it on the feet that mindset just made me Zone into that

literally it’s crazy literally I mean with khabib and with uh Connor it

looked like they were just they wrestling so much wrestling wrestling wrestling so Conor was just almost

waiting for him wrestle could it be different who knows yeah uh this is what Teddy said the success at the end of the

first round by Sterling led to his demise it made him more aggressive and vulnerable I think his Corners I’m

curious to say what hear what his Corners said to him I I feel like they might have said to him cut him off and then then you got to go yeah I I knew

have to go I didn’t give a if I lost that first round on points I I I don’t I don’t play that game dude I’m a

sniper I’m going to try to take you out in my mind in the back room I’m like this is going two rounds it’s either going our way or I I mean we talked

about that so I’m going to go out there and give it 10 minutes of L and then just whatever happens happens third CR

comes you just limp oh God no I knew I was in good shape and I just had to trust that I couldn’t overthink that I’m like I’m in good I’ve put in the work if

I’m not in good shape I don’t know how to get in good shape CU I put in the work bro all those Zone twos

you do go go on an airdine for 45 minutes to hour and those Z two those are thresholds those ones are hard okay

zone two the zone two is on a spin bike zone two I usually do on the spin bike low lower heart rate but the threshold

ones where it’s like 45 minutes at 180 that’s that’s the real D you

people can’t even keep their minds like yeah busy enough to go for 15 minutes go

for 15 minutes on air that’s impressive but go for 45 with your heart rate doing that over and over doing those those MMA

workouts that we were doing where your heart rate was 195 200 we were doing that for a while I knew you were in good

ass shape too especially for that kind of and after that first round not getting taken down each minute that went by I would just wanted to win each

moment each minute that I could go in without getting taken down was a huge

win for me because mentally this fight is not where he wants it to be whether I’m piecing him up on the feet or not

I’m more comfortable on the feet 100% if we’re standing there at range I’m comfortable he’s not as comfortable he’s

still a good Striker good everywhere but that’s not where he wants that fight to be he wants that fight to be on the ground so we go 5 minutes with and

didn’t hit the mat once the win I’m that was a huge win for me yep and uh yeah I

just don’t know when this shit’s going to sink in because this maybe I get my first di

sinking jokes gos what uh I mean dude alj Jo’s beat three previous Champions

he beat cejudo he Beat Dilla and he beat Yan yeah that’s a real deal I

mean it’s no but it’s it’s yeah it’s crazy that it’s still like yeah but I literally just fought the best striker

in the division people were saying he’s the best box am I the best boxer in the UFC yet can we can we say that uh best

Bo best one of the best strikers in the UFC the best striker in in the Bandon way division other than me I think Cory’s up there but Peter Jan is

dangerous still dangerous best Grappler in the division You could argue morab

Alo I think Alo was more technically a better Grappler beat him but there’s still people chirping

I mean I love it though I do you think there’s a point where it well no because look at ear say OT

beat vul you go knocked out OT yeah would there still be a butt oh yeah but

Islam yeah they’re always going to do that what did uh what did what’s his face

Bryce uh the Bryce Hall no BR Barth Bryce the

the you know what I’m talking about the hit kid that he had the go milk your cow Mitchell Mitchell oh yeah aljo round one

sub that was a good tweet that was a good idea that was Tim’s idea again I was like what should I say like go mil

cow I’m like that’s a good one that one I haven’t looked at it since my Instagram video one million likes that

the first million like video that was crazy Jesus um 1 million likes

11.4 million views on igz

uh that’s crazy Shaquille O’Neal you’re the man thank you you’s got a

message from isik 1,149 541 likes 15,000 comments Snoop

Dog sent me a text message that just took me to the next level what Snoopy say Snoopy said let me see what

he said let me see let me see great win champ is Uncle Snoop you made me some money last night

so we love that G the video Garrett put out Garrett put out let me

see one two three four five six six videos fight week bro

he was working he was I don’t think he literally slept that last video he just posted 730,000 views in 5 hours

holy that’s insane the Dan Garner video I almost

didn’t want to give too Secrets away big Garner video Garner video yeah but uh

you know I do want to help transcend the sport and I just don’t want to do it during my time I’m I’m the youngest male UFC champion I think because remember

when we looked it was all 30s everyone was in their 30s I’m the youngest and I’m the Hest I tweet that you actually real

quick that’s funny just the y u n g s t youngest

and oh yeah guys night coming up here youngest and hung UFC

champ let it rip let it rip guys night Jay you coming guys night are you booted

up no I’ll ask he’s booed up oh he’s booed up have you been booed up a little bit lately je take slow come

on oh this demetrius’s reaction reset oh

oh oh oh oh oh he’s out he’s

out he’s still in it back up this pass guard pass guard boom

boom that that was a good stopage he didn’t know he was disc combobulated

damn he found the chin I found the chin baby I said it all week I’m a

sniper oh man I was really hoping Rob font beat Cheeto or Corey because that

would have been a good one uh me versus Robbie or yeah damn top G congrats

appreciate that five times boosted that’s

crazy uh well man this is just crazy I’m G to go stream damn my stream would probably go you’re you’re

your next stream might pop the off I know I’ll probably I’m going to probably let it rip right after this just for 20 damn that’s a good idea so

big moments big moments bigs that thing’s real this is real life

this is a real life right now crazy ah man I feel like I need to go

work out or something my day just feels crazy but uh yeah that’s about it I think that weed’s nice that weed was

nice that was a very nice bag of weed um suar shop. check out the merch what you got plug your uh I got some

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all right

oh great to be back with you one year anniversary of headshot bang Sunday

August 20th 2023 is the year episode 431 of the Anakin Florian

podcast I was up all night oh delivery driver delivered our late

night food a a far ways from the hotel so thanks to my twin bro for uh braving

it for the masses I’m so glad tenflo’s here today because I am going on fumes

thanks for pardoning the voice Ian Gary said I went to Brazil to listen

I am here today to listen to Ken flow’s Brilliance on UFC 292 because my head is

still spinning what a live event what a week in the hub of the universe Boston Massachusetts anything I say to the

positive about the Boston crowd is probably going to be viewed through a lens of a lack of objectivity but

I don’t even know what’s going on half the time because I’m in the cans and listening to traffic that crowd was so

loud shout out to the new englanders the bostonians the philadelphians even the New Yorkers everybody who made their way

to TD Garden only thing we were really missing was you know three-time World title challenge

oh man I was jealous that I was not able to be there man the energy the vibe just seemed like it was insane in there and

man did they get a tremendous card so real happy for everyone involved yeah John you’re an animal dude I see this

kid he sends me an email like 4 50 in the morning hey guys this is what we’re gonna do tomorrow yeah yeah I’m like

what the hell is this guy doing awake you’re an animal dude well I usually try

to get you guys the odds for the main event Challenge on Wednesday or Thursday but it was a busy week in Massachusetts

we don’t have that many Massachusetts athletes on the card these days so I did some media on Thursday the whole week

was the Whirlwind but I’m super grateful for it and uh to take a q a stage with

Rob font and Calvin cater and Joe Lauzon and Chael Sonnen and address of Boston crowd and a Patrice Bergeron t-shirt

kind of well I mean you know I mean it certainly is not a Sean Thornton t-shirt in Vancouver during the Stanley Cup

Final fighting Diego Nunes and then going out and beating him in a somewhat hostile territory but uh it was pretty

cool and what was interesting is that I got to sort of write intros that for the Boston athletes so

font cater lows on the one that I introduced as arguably the best pound for pounds fighter out of the state of

Massachusetts of those three which of those three do you think I introduced as such

and let me just say yeah six of Calvin caters 12 UFC fights have been Main

Events right Rob font obviously has fought Jose Aldo and recently Corey

sandhagen a lot of high-level guys tons of main events for font as well so I for

me it was between those two guys with respect to Joe Lowe’s on the bonus machine and the absolute legendary 28

time UFC veteran can flow victim but I just thought I’d have a little fun with it so I was like and arguably the best

power for Pathfinder out of state of Massachusetts you think I went Rob Fawn or Calvin kater kater I went rub fun ah

there you go and now Katie probably hates me because uh it’s my holiday fight week and we brought back the

artwork there behind us immortalizing what I believe is the greatest singular performance certainly statistically in

UFC history when we get to zhangwei Li in her nearly 300 significant strikes landed do you remember how many

significant strikes landed Holloway had against Calvin kator 100 or some [ __ ]

the volume is insane I was shaking deep into the night I went to interview him I

did this quick hit segment for Facebook we were on flight Island and Max was like you’re shaking I’m like yeah dude

like I’ve never seen anything like that you’re looking at us telling us you’re the best boxer in the UFC and Landing he

landed 400 45 significant strikes See it’ll never be duplicated but a lot

to get to today including predictions on Max Holloway in the Korean zombie Chan

song Jung but thanks to everybody at TV Garden for a memorable weekend and uh it was made more memorable of course

by Sugar Shawn O’Malley I got a lot of merchandise for a lot of different Fighters don’t read too much into the

sugar daddy t-shirt today long ago coming up by the way in about 28 minutes perhaps he’ll uh read too much into the

T-shirt Ken Flo there is a new UFC bantamweight champion it’s sugar Shawn

O’Malley doubt it at your own Peril sometimes I wonder aloud why these guys that look to

me like special Strikers don’t seem to uh get the respect from either the fan base or their fellow Fighters uh gotta

respect him now Sean O’Malley’s the new king kenflo no question about it John you know I think that we often doubt

them myself included because grappling is such a key component to the game and

it’s rare that you have someone that can negate much of that with with footwork

and long-range weapons alone and O’Malley was largely able to do that now

of course he was in some clinch situations even he was in some single leg situations where he was able to get

himself out of trouble Up Against the Cage so he certainly did his homework there and should be applauded for that

but I think what is more difficult is the ability to do it or to stop

takedowns to stop clinches with long-range weapons and footwork alone the lateral footwork the Jabs the faints

all the little things that people do not like doing in the gym all the things that takes years and years to cultivate

are the things that Sean O’Malley brought into that octagon on Saturday night and aljo looked frustrated he

looked confused and that’s what got him to get a little bit too greedy a little

bit too anxious and he threw himself out of position now against 90 percent of

the people in the UFC and a probably even higher percentage of that in the

bantamweight division which is absolutely ridiculous by the way it would have worked it would have been

just fine but when you have a guy who knows how to counter who knows how to move just Out Of Reach and landed

absolute laser wherever he wants whenever he wants to yeah it spells

trouble and um I was just mesmerized by that replay of I just I’ve probably seen it a

thousand times John then um you know the way I saw it is if it was going to go down if O’Malley was

going to win it was going to be that shot he’s just so brilliant at throwing it he was working it before the fight

he’s thrown it a ton of times in other fights and it was aljo’s forward

movement right that crushed into that right hand of Sean O’Malley and man just

just a brilliant shot and I have much more but I’m gonna take a pause so Sean

O’Malley’s a special athlete and I’d imagine that’s part of the quotient as well when you talk about the faint and

the sophistication of his striking game there is a new wave of talent as far as

the Striking is concerned and I certainly hesitate to call Israel out of Sonya new way because he’s been striking forever but if you’re talking about the

10 most sophisticated layered Strikers or 10 best strikers in the UFC when you

combine assets and traits I mean I speak superlatively about Ian Gary and Sean

O’Malley and oftentimes I get far more sophisticated MMA Minds than me you know shucking me off so how special an

athlete were you I mean I understand the work ethic and we’ll get into his torn muscle and the rib cartilage and all of

that but how special an athlete are we dealing with and how much of it is just that you know this kid’s like Patrick Mahomes with his little [ __ ] fade

back right hand yeah listen I I think that he’s much more than that right because it’s all

the things that lead to that feedback right hand and I think that he had a

partner in aljo that did make some mistakes of course right but again that’s something that has been working

for him time and time again but yeah Sean O’Malley is a special athlete I

think when you talk about his speed his timing his rhythm his movement those are

all things that are you know very tough to cultivate very tough to train and

then of course he was gifted with tremendous link with reach with height in the division where you just don’t see

that and the fact that he’s then able to utilize that and execute on that level

is really what makes them special so uh and again similar to Izzy you get a guy

who was very tall for the division who knows how to utilize those long-range weapons at a very very high level and

that spells disaster for the opposition uh but in regards to algae you know I’ve heard a lot of people say well he

overextended himself what the hell does that mean you know it’s like if he’s throwing a strike does that mean he’s

over extending himself well to me what it means is he’s throwing himself out of position he got his head a little bit

too far over his hips his hands were not up and all of his whole body was pointed

towards the weapons of Sean O’Malley which is not a great thing right so when you’re when you have that momentum when

your head is past your hips to that point it’s very hard to retract it was a

car accident waiting to happen in that moment and O’Malley is just way too damn

good with his speed with his timing with his weapons for you to do that to him so

again it was just it was a perfect disaster and it’s another reminder that MMA is the sport where dreams get

realized or they get crushed and that’s exactly what happened in that main event Ray Longo is one of my dearest friends

and I’m a little anxious for the ray Longo minute today because the first thing Al Jermaine Sterling said on the

microphone was that he underestimated Sean O’Malley and I’m sitting here thinking like what and then he said in

the post flight pressure that his footwork and lateral movement that of O’Malley were two things that he was

underprepared for and that that surprised him and I understand the lack of time to prepare and we could spend a

quarter of an hour on the champion sort of uh being expedited

to this date 15 weeks after 25 hard minutes with Henry sahuto the injuries that perhaps Al Jermaine Sterling had

for the first few weeks of camp that he had to navigate but you know I have heard that Al Jermaine

Sterling and Joe Rogan masterfully called him the best weight cutter in the sport Kenny there’s no margin of error

for Al Jermaine Sterling he likes to have a drink or two but when it comes to making 135 pounds there’s no air for this there’s no margin of error for this

man had to make it twice in 15 weeks a lot of different factors here but uh I I just don’t quite understand what what

what is it that he smokes weed that he has facial tattoos like what it what is it going to take for people to you know

give Sean O’Malley his flowers and understand just how how critical uh time

and space is when you fight him John you know it’s funny that you say that because it’s something I’ve actually

mentioned on and I do think it’s a bit of a tactic you’re like this guy he’s got clown hair he’s get you know rolls

around in this real flashy Lamborghini like certainly this isn’t the guy this skinny lanky guy this isn’t the guy

that’s gonna beat me I’m not taking him seriously well you need to because he’s an absolute Savage and you know that’s

kind of a facade a facade but when you look deeper this is a highly highly

skilled fighter now I I was also taken aback when I heard Al Jermaine Sterling

say that that I underestimated him uh there’s nothing in what I see in

O’Malley’s game on the feet where you should underestimate him because you know

all of his fights you know his high level fights against pyoto yawn or whatever like he is a striker that you

cannot replicate you know if so for me I mean Al Jame’s I’d love to know who he was sparring with first of all who do

you find that can fight like Sean O’Malley and who did you bring in because if you’re going in there and and

you’re you’re getting hard sparring against marab or getting hard sparring against these other guys that’s great

hard sparring but that is not Sean O’Malley and you need to find someone that is as close to that man as you can

because to me when alja walked out to that fight in round one he looked completely confused he didn’t

know what to do he was trying to get a handle on him and you know reach link

that’s a real thing and I feel like that hit him in the face before he was hit in the face uh if you know what I mean and

you know again there’s a fighter is responsible for their Camp uh of course

of course coaches are responsible for that as well and who you bring in and all those things managers perhaps right

yeah they definitely take so I guess I wonder as a team as a unit

um what kind of lesson learned this is going to be for the future because you know you do your homework you watch your

video but then how well you prepared who you bring in for that fight is so damn

crucial these aren’t little Regional fights this is this is the UFC at the world championship level so you can’t

mess about Giuliani Rosso was one of the guys in Las Vegas that I was seeing in

countdown trying to emulate Sean O’Malley it all is what it is and uh we’re going to have an interesting Ray

Longo minute coming up here shortly I do want to go to the other side when it comes to the preparation because Tim Welch as head coach has devoted his

professional life to sugashan O’Malley as has Augusto tankinio Mendes this close Center Circle Brandon Harris the

performance coach with all of the breathing and the techniques and the mechanisms right I’m actually going to

have a conversation with Brandon Harris on his podcast I think in the not too distant future and I can’t wait to talk

to him about me optimizing my diaphragm and how poorly I use it when

broadcasting right I believe you’re supposed to fill your stomach with air when you’re uh taking in a deep breath

and I don’t always do that well so much so that when I cap this Sean O’Malley fight and man I have learned to not

compete with a Boston crowd right like someone [ __ ] tell John addick right like if somebody knocks someone

out in Boston and the guy who delivers the knockout’s last name is like O’Malley Like You Gotta Give it like six

seconds and then say the sugar show on top of the world

because uh man was I drowned out but dude I was like seeing Stars almost blacked out because I don’t use my

diaphragm well and I don’t take a breath in that entire sequence but these coaches have revolved their life around

preparing this man great sparring partners at the MMA lab with Mario Bautista and everybody else so they are

all in and they have the pupil that uh has this work get that cloaked in like

bong hits and uh people just can’t be messing about you know like Gilbert

Burns is one of the best fighters in the world Muhammad is too but it’s like you know

for Gilbert to fight below with no pre you know it’s like you you can’t really mess about at the elite levels when it

comes to the preparation and the time and that’s why Drake is duplessy is not going to Sydney in a few weeks

right absolutely man and and you know I know Al Joe did have a problem with the with the turnaround time right after his

last fight against the Hutto but still I think there’s more going on than just the time I think the time was sufficient

but the preparation was probably lacking and I’ve been there myself man you know

I right before the BJ Penn fight I had Mark de la Grotti and Keith Florian as

my main sparring partners in preparation for that fight which is ridiculous no no offense to Keith and and Mark de la

Grotti but yeah I need to be bringing way better guys and I didn’t have that right I mean I sure I brought in

hatsahioki in this but um again we all make mistakes so I’m not trying to make make it look like uh Hey I’ve never done

that uh these things happen and these are hard lessons to take in MMA man it’s

a hard pill to swallow uh but they are absolutely essential and we also have to

talk about Al Jermaine Sterling and I don’t want to skip too far ahead John um but the fact that he was so real and

so honest about how he was feeling after that fight I mean saying like well I

mean I clearly have to think about going to 145 think about what volcanovsky would do to me you know things like that

and how he underestimated like those are things that you love to hear out of someone like Al Jermaine Sterling and he

was absolutely correct I mean you go back to what happened with him and Marlon morice to what he did after that

he was a completely different fighter and to go back to what you’re talking about with O’Malley and the breathing it

is also our breathing that guides us that puts us in the right frame of mind so we can be as present as possible so

we execute as well as possible when I saw O’Malley out there and aljo typically look always looks a little

nervous and jumpy but O’Malley Man he just looks so composed and he was just

kind of taking everything in like everything was happening in slow motion he watched Al Joe walk in he was taken

in the crowd he was looking at his coaches just everything was on point and that to me

you know signal at least it signaled that he was going to be very difficult to beat and um so anyways just kudos to

O’Malley and his team man just tremendous stuff he’s a big game player you know was I better as a basketball

player in practice or the gangs I think you all could probably take a guess right much better than practice you know

and I will be texting Keith Florian later today Cody don’t worry about that what are we doing here in preparation

for BJ Penn guys what are we doing with Mark delicarotti he’s the primary [ __ ] sparring Patna so I don’t

necessarily want to see Al Joe cut the weight anymore Chael Sonnen and I were

in unison in our belief that this was a missed opportunity though to not ask for an immediate rematch and gosh I mean I

have so many different things written down as far as the fight is concerned the stoppage and everything else Ray Longo by the way had to push back to 745

so uh our man big gun Brian Petrie shout out to you but we might have to push you back a few minutes as well so I don’t

want to see how Jermaine Sterling cut down anymore but these long reigning dominant Champions get immediate

rematches all the time and he is certainly worthy of one there are a couple of top contenders May Rob

dwallisch Willie Corey sandhagen who are on the mend of course there’s the Cheeto Vera history but to what extent do you

think it was a missed opportunity for Al Jermaine Sterling I mean we all loved Al Joe post fight right I love the Candor

the post fight press conference I just have so much respect for this man and I could do 10 minutes on just the respect

but he he cut himself down in advance of a potential move up to featherweight by

saying if this is what Sean O’Malley does to me imagine what type of meat grinder Alexander volkanovsky would put

me through and then didn’t call for an immediate rematch which I think he deserves so do you think it was a missed

Opportunity by Al Jermaine Sterling in the Octagon after the fact you know I I don’t really because I I and the grand

scheme of things right you could say business-wise it could have been right no question about it but I think that

there’s something to be said for a fighter being as authentic and honest as possible and perhaps he wasn’t all the

way there to really think about that um but to me he was and he was being as real as possible and I think that

sometimes after a loss what you don’t want to be is that dude who’s like ah

you know now I give me another one give me another chance yada yada and then the reality of it is I think

right and this is just my opinion watch it from the outside in is that the UFC probably wouldn’t have given it to a man

you know just because he already talked about going up and wait and that you know I I again I don’t know what the

relationship is between aljo and the UFC but to me it doesn’t seem like it’s great I you know I think it’s been contentious over you know the last

couple years or so and you know you could argue that they were very happy

that O’Malley’s the champion if we put it that way and listen you know from a stylistic standpoint and and from a

business standpoint yeah I totally get it O’Malley is an absolute killer who knocks people out who do you want in

your highlight real I get it right um so I see that standpoint and can completely agree with that in that

regard but so I I think that for him also he he probably would have wanted more time and then for him to say I want

this rematch but I’m not gonna fight him in six months five months seven months eight months it would have been asking a

lot from the UFC and he already knows that that probably would have been a tough ask algeman Sterling did win the first round

on all three judges scorecards but he certainly didn’t have the productivity let’s say in this fight that Valentina

shevchenko did in her first meeting against Alexa gross so one thing Joe Rogan was saying was that sometimes when

there’s a decisive result like this you don’t necessarily have the foundation for an immediate rematch for me I think

first and foremost it’s exciting to push the reset button you do have your dear friendly there as a number one Contender

so I think it might just be time to to move on to featherweight and see exactly what you can do there there are a lot of

big fights for him potential main events for him there so uh we’ll see what happens but as his friend I just

wouldn’t want him to necessarily cut this much weight uh several more times Hereafter

uh gosh so much to get into as far as these stoppage is concerned can flow no

denying there’s some inconsistency when it comes to these situations I talk about these referees as having some of

the harder jobs in MMA judges too I believe Jason Herzog and Mark otter are the two best referees in MMA right now

I’m probably forgetting an elite referee in there as well uh some might suggest

that Goddard saved him some dignity by not actually having him go out cold with a few more ground strikes no major

protests from Al Jermaine Sterling huge protest from his right hand man Wallace Willie

I’m sure Dominic Cruz would would want to see aljo get another beat or two and

uh I tend to lean that way Kenny uh and thinking it was a skosh premature even

though I do like God and give him the benefit of the doubt yeah no no question about it Mark Goddard is fantastic uh

fantastic referee and he was actually had refereeing duties the night before in New York for us at the pfl and you

know I think that um I don’t necessarily have a problem with it if again me I

know nothing about refereeing I probably would have let it go a little bit more because but yes he was like uh not all the way

there but alja was fighting his way back right it to me it looked like he was

fighting his way back when he turtled up at though at the very end though that’s what I was like so I don’t know man um I I don’t

necessarily have a problem with it there it’s clear Al Joe was absolutely rocked

he was trying to battle his way back then it seemed like his legs and arms were kind of flailing but not

intelligently he was just kind of his body was doing it but his mind not maybe not necessarily so

um you know I I wouldn’t have had a problem with it going a little bit longer but I’m sure it would have

probably led to more damage so in that regard I think it’s a pretty solid stoppage but when you have a champion

you kind of want to give him a little bit more of a chance to get back into it but uh yeah yeah it was it was it was a

tricky thing because Goddard and the officials and rightfully so certainly

don’t want to hear the noise like this is a championship setting they’re in there to protect the fighter and I think

a lot of fans would rather see one more shot than one fewer right more often than not I would

sort of be on the other side I’d rather see a premature stoppage than a super late one that jeopardizes or impacts a

career in brain health uh but my goodness these Warriors are the championship setting it’s uh it’s a

really tricky thing but uh the good thing is that Mark Goddard has established so much good will that uh

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt every day of the week we’ll see if Longo has any thoughts on that coming up in about uh 12 minutes here on the

DraftKings Network good to have you with us on the Anakin Florian podcast as we continue to recap UFC 292. now in terms

of the promotions appetites who have Sean O’Malley or Al Jermaine Sterling as the champion

never before in UFC history and I’m quoting MMA history today has the promotion uploaded an entire

Pay-Per-View main event to their YouTube channel immediately seems to be all hands on deck can flow in terms of

trying to bloat Sean Mali into Sean O’Malley into the next big thing I’ll be on SportsCenter tomorrow at 12 40 p.m

Eastern Standard Time and uh those calls don’t come in for me very often this dude is about to take over

and uh while I think it ambitious to suggest that he could get to a Conor McGregor level I’m not going to start

putting things past him on uh his celebration Sunday yeah I mean listen I think with

everything he has going on all the different businesses and side hustles he’s got going on

um you know he may have not even needed this push but but it’s clear the UFC machine wanted to get behind him and now

they are activating they’re in activation mode and that is a very good thing for a fighter and and it’s rare

that they even do that right for someone like that and O’Malley he’s got that look man he’s very unique there’s no one

really like him um you know and uh I don’t know man I I

think he’s gonna be a huge huge star we talked about this on the last show I said maybe it’s not this time against

aljo but at some point he’s going to be a superstar the time is now man the time

is now it’s not simple and uh I think it’s well deserved just based on his style and who he is so if you don’t know

oftentimes if you’re watching SportsCenter after a pay-per-view you might get a sterling O’Malley highlight and then you’ll get a freeze frame when

he actually lands that right hand by them Distributing this fight to the

masses my daughter saw it on Snapchat don’t judge me she’s not really on social

media only that application laughs my wife had seen this right they don’t

engage necessarily this knockout is all over the goddamn joint Kenny and uh yeah

people just gravitate towards Sean O’Malley right as I said on the post fight show you don’t have to be a master

orator like jail son into draw Mass Appeal and have the it factor

and uh you know I watched Sean O’Malley’s entire 23-minute media scrum can flow and uh I thought it was [ __ ]

brilliant so um you know this dude’s got a lot of the uh a lot of the package if not the total package I could always

tell how big a fight is this sounds kind of lame but I can always tell how big a fight is when my wife kind of knows a

little bit about it you know like she she knows that there’s a fight going on remember but she’s like hey yeah isn’t that O’Malley guy fighting in the main

event I’m like you never know any of the names you know and she knew exactly who it was we don’t have cable we don’t

watch television but she knew about it uh so you know that to me is usually an indicator when when the casuals know

exactly who’s fighting when it’s happening and that it’s going to be a pretty big fight and then after they win

you know everyone’s kind of talking about yeah it’s uh it’s it’s a very big deal for the UFC and for O’Malley so uh

and again you know coming for where I came from the lighter weight classes never got this kind of love right this

is a 135 pounder that is garnering all this attention and when you put that

into perspective uh from where we were as a sport you know 10 years 15 years ago uh it’s it’s it’s quite the

accomplishment it quite the accomplishment it’s it’s incredibly impressive

there have been a lot of bantamweight title fights on free TV so to speak right even Dominic Cruz and TJ Dillashaw

fighting for the belt in 2016 was a UFC Fight Night this was Al Jermaine Sterling’s second

UFC Main Event Sean O’Malley can headline at 135 pounds that is a

tremendous luxury for the promotion so as we spin this thing forward

Sean O’Malley has torn cartilage of some kind or a torn muscle below the rib wasn’t able to

Grapple for five or six weeks it limited his sparring I think it makes this feat all the more impressive

and I think it certainly as he alluded to on the post show contributed to some of his nerves that he wasn’t able to put

in the requisite work and I think it’s astonishing that Al Jermaine Sterling was over two for takedowns and gosh

there’s so much we can get into but uh I think at this point it’s optimistic to think that he’s going to be able to fight Marlon Cheeto Vera in December but

you know once again the Stars seem to align for Sean O’Malley if you don’t want to fight marab dwallis Willy or

Corey sandhagen in title defense number one and I say that with all due respect to the magnificent challenge that is marloncito

Vero but it looks as though uh if everybody’s healthy it is going to be uh UFC 296 probably well unless it’s Leon

Edwards and Kobe as well but UFC 296 O’Malley V Cheeto two and it’s a great

fight man you know obviously you have the history you have the style match up you have two guys that really are not

very fond of each other two guys that are extremely aggressive that are great Strikers they both fight on the same

they both fought on the same night last night it’s a great story you know

um send it yeah so congratulations to Sean O’Malley to his entire team Augusto

tankino Mendez Tim Welch Brandon Harris everybody else my twin bro was sitting with Sean O’Malley’s family and he said

they are just outstanding people so you can feel good about that Sean O’Malley has moved

almost his entire family from Montana to Arizona his dad is the loan holdout but

I think they’re going to get him there soon and uh to be able to financially do that for your family right sorry Mom

can’t buy your house yet can’t buy a house yet actually we’re never gonna be able to buy a house Mom

it’s not gonna happen it’s not gonna happen my late stepfather no my late father-in-law would always say play the

lottery and I’m not talking scratch tickets folks go play your state lottery play the tickets like every day of the

Mega Millions change your life all right so Longo’s going to join us quickly and I almost hesitate to Pivot

off of this fight uh but I am going to do that and get to Ian Machado Gary and

John Wayne Lee and some of these other performers at UFC 292. Magnum zhangwei Lee

defends her title here she told me in the fighter meeting as thoughtful of fighter meeting as I can ever remember

being a part of by the way I mean my goodness you know we felt like we were talking to [ __ ] Bruce Lee you know

50 to 43 50 to 44 49 45 all hails John

Wayne Lee uh I don’t know what you have for us on the DARS defense as well the

one time she was threatened in the fight but uh just an incredible performance that had everything to it including

submission defense yeah listen I I had I had a feeling I had a gut feeling this

is going to be a grappling heavy game plan and that’s exactly what we got some

great exchanges on the feet for sure but I think she realized that the easiest path to victory was taking this fight to

the ground um there was one point where it did look like it was pretty tight I think the

angle made it a little bit too difficult um for Lemos to finish

um it was tight but I think the angle was not quite there on it and it

definitely seemed like it was something Pacheco was looking to have a up her sleeve to try to catch uh Zhang Wei Lee

off guard but um this is a woman that really did her homework and John

absolutely I could see that you know her being very charismatic at that meeting

um first of all kudos to her for trying to learn English which is extremely difficult

um she has made major major improvements she didn’t know one word of English when she saw started in this sport to see

where she’s at just shows her intelligence and her dedicated to that which is awesome and then seeing some of

the countdown stuff you know with her uh behind the scenes I probably said the

show wrong but um you know you know just the behind the scenes stuff she just seems like an absolute sweetheart just a

very kind human being but then she gets in that cage dude and she turns into something very very far from that uh

just just amazing to watch man just a tremendous athlete we always talk about that but she does her homework she has

improved her technical skills on the ground on the feet so much good luck

trying to beat her all right so I’m here with my jean-wali fighter card and I just want to write

down I go into these fighter meetings with most of my notes done these are the things that I wrote down based upon our

fighter meeting perhaps you’ll find this interesting so she reads a lot about Chinese culture right if I’m Tatiana

Suarez listening to the Anakin Emporium podcast I’m like God damn it [ __ ] Chong Wei Lee reading about Chinese

culture [ __ ] getting better every day said she was gonna wrap around her like water I fight against my laziness every

day I fight myself every day discipline regaining the title is hard defending it

is harder sees herself as the real opponent just relaxed and much happier in there than ever before

and then she sees untapped potential and improvements when we ask where she is relative to her fighting crime so uh

yeah she was certainly like water and uh my gosh she’s a real problem and it doesn’t really matter I guess whether or

not she’s the number one pound-for-pound women’s mixed martial arts athlete in the world I think Larissa Pacheco is

Cannonball coming to be sure and there’s some other fighters in that conversation as well I think Aaron blanchfield and Tyler Santos both fighting this weekend

are two of the top 11 pound-for-pound women in the world are right as far as the UFC is concerned so there’s a lot of

talent in the women’s game right now but um we got to give jeanway Lee all her flowers as far as her next title defense

is concerned Kenny so China is far from South Florida but the foundation could be laid for Yan

shanana’s title Challenger against her country woman Zhang Wei Lee you could also do Jean waili Tatiana seemed as

those young Wei Lee expressed an appetite to that for that in her post fight comments uh what do you think they

do as young Wei Lee Tatiana Suarez Yan shanon seemed to be the the most prominent names and uh do you have a

preference of those two yeah I would say Tatiana Suarez probably makes the most amount of sense

um you know I don’t know what the appetite is to have two females from China do it at this point this stage of

the game I think uh shown on definitely uh there’s a case there for sure I think

the stylistic matchup of Tatiana Suarez and her recent uh win makes it a little

bit more interesting to me um and it’s not exactly clear who I think is going to win for a long time I

didn’t think there was anyone out there that would be able to beat someone like a Tatiana Suarez but yeah when I see the

improvements that Zhong Lee is making and has made she’s a problem and the

fact that she’s actually shorter stockier makes it that much more of a problem when you’re trying to get underneath someone’s Center of mess when

you’re trying to attack those legs um you want them to be nice and Tall right so you do not in some ways it

makes striking more difficult but to enter into their legs it makes it that much more challenging when you’re

shorter and stockier so right uh sign me up I love that fight you sound like that

Argus integrated defense guy there a little bit you know

all right so uh yeah we’ll see what happens right I just feel like sort of like Lifetime Achievement Award

for Tatiana Suarez she’s been through so much that I would absolutely give her

the title fight right so much in terms of you know thyroid cancer taking away her Olympic dreams and then major

injuries taking away years potentially for mixed martial arts career and or prime Lorenzo Fertitta always would say

strike while the iron is hot and metrically I don’t know what’s a bigger fight Tatiana Suarez or Yan shaunan I do

believe Yan Xiao non can play the heel in China and yes there’s a healthy appetite for that fight like I can

actually wrap my head around that long trip because that gets my blood boiling like that’s an exciting fight for me to

see those two go head to head but I do think Tatiana Suarez has to have the inside Lane right now and uh just got to

give her that Championship opportunity I think she has deserved it all right Ian Machado Gary

over Neil magni by unanimous decision one of the scorecards was 30 to 24 don’t necessarily have a problem with it this

man is uh is Just Married to the Game and does an open workout in an impromptu

fashion at an Irish pub in Boston the night before the fight he loves the preparation Kenny his ears

are as open as his mind he is about to buy a house in Brazil which I think is going to be his primary home at least

right now and he’s going to sort of get away from this nomadic life that he has been living but uh again I just don’t

think people uh understand the gravity how good this guy is but you know what Ray Longo has uh has made his way back

from Boston to Garden City New York so uh let us get to uh Raymond Peter Longo and uh we

really appreciate this man you doing okay are you at the gym right now I stopped at the gym so I wouldn’t have

made it but listen I love you guys and I would do wow but this was this was insane I had uh thank God bazooka did a

great job driving but it took us five hours which wow like a three hour three and a half hour trip maybe but uh

you know and then at the last minute I Quinto I sent you the video that’s what I said his luggage indices oh I didn’t

get it in between my wife and I acquainted as a suitcase you know everybody was jammed in they couldn’t see out the back window but yeah that’s

the way that’s the way man and that’s you know I think that’s going to be the gist of this whole

talk today but uh whatever I’ll tell you three months ago you come off two great wins you go into this it’s it’s the

fight game man it’s a crazy crazy thing but emotionally if you’re not grounded and you don’t have your priorities

straight you will definitely get swept out to see but uh let’s hit it man Kenny’s good to see you

buddy great to see you all right we have a lot to get into but I do want to start on a lighter note because you sent me a

video in the car driving back with yeah and Ally Quinta and you’re like we’re coming John you know and oh yeah I just

don’t want to get this reputation as a dictator who’s like hazing you to get

back so we can do the Emporium podcast no no I just wanted to let you know man I’m trying I really yeah no that first

seven o’clock seemed good then I was like holy [ __ ] man with traffic who the hell knows you know but we made it we’re

here that’s all that matters man it still revolves around you well we uh we appreciate you extending yourself uh to

be sure I’m glad that you made it home safely yeah so yes this sport is a whirlwind uh thrill on one side Agony On

the other and there’s a lot to get into as far as this main event is concerned as far as Chris

wadman’s comeback is concerned and everything else uh and you making the Trek of course from Vegas to Boston I

mean crazy I know man I know so I guess I would just like to start with

algeman Sterling taking the microphone after the fight and saying that he underestimated Sean O’Malley and uh I

don’t necessarily intend to put you on the spot but uh yeah you know I feel like Al Jermaine Sterling is not alone

in terms of not necessarily understanding the magnitude of uh of how maybe good this guy is is that fair to

say I would think so look the guy’s the guy is good he’s a great Striker there’s no question about it look all three judges

gave Al Joe the first round and I think deservingly so but you know in between rounds I really told Al Joe let’s go

kick heavy it’s offset in his punches I mean I what I was looking at in the first round was a guy that didn’t want

to commit I think he was afraid of the takedown he was I think we and we knew that was going to happen but

uh I I wasn’t really sure I think O’Malley expected aljo to do in the

first round what he did in the second round and aljo’s point was that he could have made it like an out of Sanya Romero

fight but you know it would have been so one of pleasing to the crowd which I’m surprised because normally he doesn’t

talk like he gives a [ __ ] about the crowd but he did he did say that because I think

the burden would have been on Sean he would have been down two rounds if Alger just does the same thing in the first

round I don’t think he was making a move now I think it was because he was waiting for alto to shoot in but then

somebody said he did have a bad rib maybe that played into a toe that he was just trying to keep his distance but

[ __ ] was accurate he hit a beautiful counter I mean you know I’m a striking guy I love it and you know hats

off to him man he caught aljo coming in and uh you know normally aljo you know

goes for the league a little differently or for the cross but uh he caught him no one else has been able to find aljo’s

head uh but um that’s off to him I got nothing but uh you know respect for what

he did so uh you know great great great counter punch it and aljo did say the

movement against the cage you know was was a little frustrating but he was winning and all three judges had him

winning and I think that was the that would have been the way the fight would have won it wouldn’t have been exciting but then it would have been onshore to

make it exciting and then who knows what would happen that’s a great Point Ray and it gets me

wondering how much of that or maybe the lack of patience on the part of Al Joe

had to do with him you know because had to do with the trash talk going back and

forth and the fact that you know UFC had this guy in O’Malley he’s the exciting guy Al Joe’s the kind of you know

tactical Grappler yeah I look at it you don’t have to ask

him but it appears that it you know has played into a little keep

it is what it is but you know he did make the walk after three months he had a hundred percent didn’t want to do it a

couple of months ago but once he committed he had a good camp days absolutely no excuses but uh you know

the UFC wanted what they wanted and they got what they they got what they wanted for sure you know yeah

Kenny I just want to jump in here but yeah we can’t just bury that right right

like yeah 25 hard minutes 15 weeks ago and I’m just quoting Al Jermaine

Sterling footwork and lateral movement he said he was underprepared for right and you know so much of the first three

four weeks I’m just saying we’re about getting his injuries right and this fight happened on the Challenger’s

timeline and it is part of the discussion thereafter yeah

you know that’s all I’m not trying to make excuses I’m not trying to make excuses O’Malley was you know whatever

degree this might happen on the Challenger’s timeline that’s all yeah without a doubt there’s no question about it it look all the all the it I

don’t think it’s a secret that everything’s stacked against them but I don’t I don’t want to take away anything I mean it’s a great I I know what it

feels like man I know what it feels like three times and I’m happy for Roe Welsh and they did a great job with the guy

and you know God bless them that they got the machine behind them you know what I mean I I was never that lucky you

know what I mean with with all of the Champions they had a really earn it and [ __ ] fight their way to it and then

this kid look this could proved it too so I want those guys to enjoy the the the success just like I did just like

aljo did and it’s a it’s all good you know what I mean it really is but um

go ahead I’m sorry Ray no worries no uh was there any discussion between you and

aljo and the rest of the squad about um you know the training partners that

you guys I know it was very early after but because I’d imagine it’d be very difficult to find a sparring partner

that can replicate the links and this silent speed of someone like O’Malley but was there any discussion about that

or how that sparring went and maybe how that could be adjusted in the picture or

you know we I’m going to say and like again you have to really Al Joe because he’s always has a different perspective

on it but yeah we had lanky tall guys in there so I think he okay I I think what

I didn’t see in the training was you know cutting off the octagon with the footwork and we kind of knew he was going to do it but I figured algae would

just make that adjustment uh you know in there but but the guy does move really

really well so it even if it’s true we still won the round you know what I mean so he could

move all he wants if alja wanted to stand in the center of the Octagon then he would have had to come to him so it

is tactically I think that’s an easy fix that’s not nothing crazy but he does he

moves well so but it wasn’t like he lost the round because of that but I think it

may be you know uh confuse them enough to make him leap in a little the range he was

having a hard time getting the range and I think he was feeling it out it would have been nice to have another second

round exactly like the first round because then one either one of those guys was going to have to make something happen always yeah it’s going to be a

like a shitty fight

and I think if it would have did that I would have liked to see how it played out but uh again the fact that he said

he actually brought up out of Sonia Romero I said it’s just about getting the W don’t mean you have nothing to prove me right like you know I think as

much as he says it doesn’t bother him I’m confused over the hatred this guy gets this guy’s a good guy you see the

way he handled the microphone he’s not making excuses he walked out of that [ __ ] octagon like a man you know what

I mean you hear his story at the press conference I’m almost in tears you know what I mean like I I just really hope I

could be a mentor to the guy and he knows that I always have his back as an older person you know what I mean like

maybe you know he might have missed that growing up a little bit but he’s a good dude I’m telling you right now the guy’s

a good dude so when I hear this type of hatred like coming out of the octagon it’s like [ __ ] you well I mean like it’s

not even like oh you know it’s it’s yeah it’s getting personal like I I don’t know where it’s coming from but you know

I that’s like again it’s part of the game I guess you know when like I said it’s insane man you know so

it’s uh well I’ll tell you where it’s coming from yeah and you know where it’s coming from he’s the only fighter in UFC history to

win the Undisputed Title by way of disqualification and then there have been others it’s just surrounding idle

defenses and uh but no I mean don’t I don’t want to get frustrated and sad today he was just dripping with class

after the fact and he was almost done he was almost too honest as far as some things were concerned by the way I just

read a text from you Dennis bazooka is gunning it like you’re making me sound like a pledge Marshall trying to get

into this joke wait then I feel offholding that that wasn’t me that was Cody

oh now I feel much better but Dennis bazooka was gunning it

probably like John doesn’t happen for us to be going this fast on the highway I’m

giving my wife an A plus this trip she put up they put up with a lot of [ __ ] she was

she’s absolutely awesome so I try not to speak out of both sides of my mouth but I did think it was a

Miss by Al Jermaine Sterling to not ask for the immediate rematch after the fact even if you have no intention of taking

it and you want to leave the division I think he’s conflicted really because he has marab dwallis Willy you know on the

brain stem in that moment and he’s always sort of that unselfish type who wants to put his guy forward right but I

also don’t necessarily want to see him cut down to 135 pounds a million more times so what can you tell us probably

nothing but what do you think I mean he did at the post fight press conference I would like to think that I’ve earned my right to get an immediate rematch I’m

going to remember this night for a very long time it’s going to fuel me for just bigger and greater things

oh I’m going to say he’s going to look at that fight no less than 950

000 times because that’s that’s who he is I mean and I hope he I I don’t go on

vacation enjoy yourself man don’t please don’t beat yourself up over this I think he he has his priorities straight he

knows what’s to concentrate on but get into the rematch thing he could say whatever he wants the UFC is going to do

what the UFC is going to do you can park and try all you want especially him then they’re not gonna you know uh

because he’s asking for a butt with that said Sean Shelby and I hope I’m not miss

misstating this I mean in the back I was delirious but Sean Shelby said do you want to rematch algo said 100 I have a

hundred percent want the rematch and so he did there was talked I mean I’m gonna say Sean asked him he said it and so I’m

I’m saying he’s getting a rematch I mean they said the numbers were outstanding for the biggest bantamweight

pay-per-view is that that true somebody told me oh yeah sure it was you know they they’re going to be dictated by

money it doesn’t matter now who who it is that’s a if they made if they made a bank on that thing they’ll do it again

for sure so Sean did say that Al Joe said 100 percent no questions about it

uh and I think that’s uh you know that’s where we are so and I think he will make

the adjustments you know I think he’s got a uh a good idea or what he knows

exactly what happened that’s that’s the good news yeah he knows he overextended himself at the wrong time

you know whatever but but again I have beautiful beautiful counterpunch

all right that’s some real behind the scenes Intel there for Ray Longo you got it timeline no that that’s very good

that that’s interesting he’s going I think that’s what we’re talking about right you know

right you know everything so close to the best you know

he flew to Los Angeles today to see the doctor so we’ll have more of an idea on

his timeline when he comes back

he’s like he should go into slap that slap League I think you know what

somebody was hassling Pedro munoz’s wife and Mirage slapped the guy right in the

face the guy ran good away good you know imagine that good guys that

being a piece of [ __ ] to people was he from Boston or Philly Boston Bostonian or Philadelphia I don’t know I don’t

know definitely wasn’t a New Yorker you guys can be [ __ ] though huh no I guess I

don’t know it is it is I guess by the way someone came up to me someone came up to me in Boston and this guy knew

exactly what to say to get a photo right he’s like hey he’s like I’m not a minute man

[Laughter]

that’s what I gotta do I gotta start sending people over to you that’s gonna be a good gig that’s fine by the way

it’s guy said he wasn’t a minute man I just got a text from my wife because

my son I think wanted to make uh have a cameo on the attic important podcast tonight he’s a cutie

oh thank you it’s uh I’m not I don’t know if my voice is gonna hold up if I keep uh acting like a

lunatic so uh I get I I guess I would just say and we have to get to Chris Weidman I just have so much respect for

Al Jermaine Sterling and uh yeah you know my heart does go out to him as far as uh

as the the Venom that that seemingly comes his way even in the tri-state area in New Jersey which was nothing if not

stunning um and if I’m being completely honest sometimes he can be a little bit quirky and and not maximize the lifetime

but this weekend he did and even if I thought he was almost too honest after

the fact uh the numbers on his post flight comments on the internet are just absurd and uh I just have so much

respect for him and and as far as his UFC bantamweight resume is concerned uh you know I’m not saying he’s the best

fighter skill for skill the division’s ever seen but let me know when somebody surpasses his UFC bantamweight resume in

terms of accomplishments there you go I I agree 100 well you look

look John at the end of the day man it’s how you carry yourself as a person right these are all little life lessons to see

who you are and I think his character is really unbelievable the way he spoke about Weidman at the press conference

and the way he spoke about his upbringing and you know how he beat the odds and made it this this is a little

bleep I know it sucks nobody wants to lose I’m a [ __ ] sore loser trust me I’ve learned how to come like do this

like I don’t care how bad it is I’ll always come on and do the show and try to handle myself with you know uh Grace

and you know dignity but you know uh this is what what molds you this is what

really makes you and I’m I’m so happy for these guys the way they handled themselves in defeat and look you can’t

keep going up and up and up you know what I mean that’s why I kind of I always say this I love what khabib did

he quit while he was on top he had a great resume and you never have to deal with this you know what I mean and it

might be harder to do what khabib did than even go out you know even after a loss so

it’s all good but I think uh again these guys handle themselves like gentlemen they walked out like men and that’s it

man you know I I got a really nice text that you know it was something to the

effect that you know my 11 I’m proud to say I could let my 11 year old son watch

you know the post find interviews and you know be proud of what he’s gonna

hear you know what I mean so there’s a message and then I I can’t I just can’t say enough about it I couldn’t give a

[ __ ] man really about yeah I I want everybody to win but they’re they’re

just all winners in life and I don’t yeah I don’t think you could put a price on that man he he knows where his

priorities I had I think I had a good chat with him um and that’s it you know just make sure

that guy’s son doesn’t listen to your foul mouth on the Anakin foreign

who you know showed the heart of a champion the determination that he

showed out there again just coming back to fight is a huge accomplishment but can you talk a little

bit about what you thought about uh Chris’s performance in his first time back since that devastating like

yeah look Ben I think Chris is a winner all around I’m happy

for Chris with this fight I mean just the fact that you know he came back from the injury he’s getting older it’s a two

and a half two and a half year you know layoff I mean that’s a lot to overcome

without an injury that injury was actually worse than Anderson Silva’s because his bone came through the skin

which they say is really bad so uh the fact that he went in there and um you

know fought a tough Hawaiian dude man it was a who’s a super nice guy uh

I thought that second round was phenomenal he had the whole crowd cheering form you know what I mean he

had a lot of support right John uh oh my gosh uh which and I in the second round

when he was like waving him in or or I think he might have said are you kidding me you’re kicking me I

think he he told him yeah you’re kidding you’re kicking me in my my bad legs

his walkout was unbelievable it’s the only time in 12 years for me on a UFC

microphone where I was like trying with my arm trying to get the crowd going at

one point I’ve never done that before right it was like an out-of-body experience and I don’t like New Yorkers

it was really cool so listen I mean he is being covered the

whole since the leg break to now and I think it’s going to make for a great story it’ll be inspirational that’s what

I was kind of telling them uh it’s just the fact that you made that walk and he he got his legs beat up and that’s got

to be look back again he’s a special cat but I mean not you you got a bad

break on that leg like that you’re getting your legs shoot up both of them you know that that other Lake he had a

softball coming up if I guess you to kick with it or I did something but uh just crazy man just my

head goes off to him it just was great seeing his family the kids are growing up but you know because he moved so you

don’t get to see anything so I think we’re coming at it from a different angle like everybody wants to win but

all these guys have done really great they’ve changed their lives and that to me that’s what it’s all about I’m not

I’m not going to cry over spilled milk there’s nothing you could do about even you know people said you know the fight

was stopped too early you know if I’m the ref I’m not stopping the fight no I wouldn’t have stopped the fight there but I can’t complain with it either you

know what I mean but alja was 100 coherent in the right after the fact and

right after the fight in the back so you know I would have liked to seen that a little differently but besides that yeah

it’s all good man are we moving anything we’ll move on as a team

right any injuries uh that Chris sustained from that last fight obviously he took a lot of leg kicks any anything

else that that happened uh that you know no no injuries like that I

I think the calf kicks you know uh you know he wasn’t walking both legs were beat up

so I don’t think anything I hope not you know he’s gonna have to get that the leg

he had the surgery on you know an MRI to make sure everything was all right but uh we’ll see how that goes but besides

that I think it was you know just the calf kicks and look the way he fought through that I thought you know most

guys would have stopped I think but oh yeah he kept trying to make the fight you

know so guy is so and uh and just

affable and lovable and uh just for him and his family uh I’m just so happy they were able to get through this experience

and um but I will say in terms of the post-fight visuals that I saw the left knee was the one that Tavares primarily

destroyed he did a lot of damage to the right leg as well he’s surgically repaired right leg Ray but the right leg

was the one that was being iced and the left leg was not and Dr Davidson seemed too intimate to Dana White who said at

the post by press conference that he thinks Maybe there might be an ACL or an MCL or

something the right knee the right leg I think Chris seems concerned about

no no it’s crazy no that’s not no that’s not true what you said the ice is on the

right leg he had no ice on the left leg and his is that correct that’s right right oh you said the you said no no the

left leg got attacked but he had no ice there correct saying the ice was on the right the surgical leg

right that’s that’s a that’s a fact uh I’m saying the ACL is a hundred percent

not torn good great all right yes

because I did I’m on the unaware of that I could be totally off base but if you

go watch Dana White’s post fight press conference I think there was some communication with the doctor and I think Dana said I forget which CL or

something that maybe they could be concerned about but yeah he’ll get an MRI and we’ll see but he was very clear

about not wanting to retire whether or not he was privy to Dana White’s comments about wanting him to

retire I don’t know uh am I putting you on the spot if I uh if I ask you what you think about all of that stuff I know

you’re not in the business of retiring your own fighters but I don’t mean to put you on the spot

that’s a but what’s the question

oh it’s not crazy when you were going to ask what is your wife just hanging out

you know wait hold on

I don’t know if he’s hearing me as well here she said no no I’m not so I would

like to let you people go home you want to say I would like to let you people go home oh no no no but

no so wait let me just get that so Dane

your connections Cody perhaps we can reconnect with this

handsome Godfather Ray Longo his wife was about to come in but I’d like to let these people go home I mean my goodness

this is really not going to help my public approval rating with the listenership that you know these people

all rushed from this very challenging weekend to the gym instead of their homes to do this

silly little podcast we have red purple Cody’s got a lot more patience than I do keeping this Freeze

Frame right now yeah he’s like give me a sec to fix this there we go he’s got yeah baby what do we got retired

I might no I might be slap happy at this point

no we’re done we’re done we want to give you a chance for some final comments uh

yeah I was very moved by Al Jermaine Sterling in our fighter meeting talking about sort of the lack of Parental support that he had as a kid and for his

senior year of high school like trying to beg his parents to show up for things and um yeah he was very very impacted in

life by that lack of support and uh you know I hope the fan base will just uh give the guy a [ __ ] break

well he’s got me now show up at his graduation next time

all right hey why don’t you people go home and uh much love to the wife and family and uh I know you’re dealing with

an injury and we wish you all the best we’ll talk to you next week rest up yeah yeah I’ll see you uh next week I got

going after surgery this week so say a prayer for me hey man see me walking

with the King awesome guys I love you guys man it was uh unfortunately it was

a bad night but obviously it’s it’s part of the game and I’m happy for all the other people that you know know what I

went through with the happiness and um yeah it’s it’s it’s all good I enjoy the moment uh Sean with your team and uh you

know we’ll see you in there again all right we love you buddy we wish you all the best told me in eight days

you’re gonna be great so uh we’ll see you soon okay oh she’s the she’s the best man really like her man yeah all

right buddy there he is the ray Longo met it every week here on the Anakin Florian podcast

my goodness his wife’s probably like what is going on like have them send you

a check cool but I mean you got to think about at that age all right because Ray Ray’s

been doing martial arts longer than we’ve been alive you know and then he’s still doing this thing he cornered in

Boston he drove five hours to New York he’s like oh yeah yeah by the way we gotta stop at the gym so I could do the

podcast his wife’s gonna be like are you kidding me and he’s still doing this it’s 60 whatever I don’t know how old he

is but like this it’s unbelievable so Ray thank you again and uh we’ll be thinking of him um as he’s getting

surgery on the hip this week yes he’s getting his hip replacement if you have seen him limping around and having a hard time especially on the decline

you’ll be very happy to know he’s going to get fixed and uh guy’s gonna be a million bucks next week here on the

attic Emporium podcast all right we have a lot more to get into when it comes to UFC 292 I do want to go three wide and

uh bring big gun Brian Petrie into the conversation because he’s been waiting patiently as uh the New Yorkers work

their way back to uh to Garden City what’s up big gun what’s going on boys what’s going on boys

so uh we like that Petrie doll said tell us a little bit later in the day right yeah cigars all day

no kids started school ideas I mean these kids they just get me sick every [ __ ] me God it’s crazy but now we’re

doing okay just in my throat we’re all right all right so uh I’m gonna go to you first on this and then I want to

hear Ken Flo’s thoughts on Ian Machado Gary but I do think there’s a an over reaching theme here when it comes to Ian

Machado Gary and Sean O’Malley there’s connective tissue when it comes to them as Strikers and how good and fast

and skilled they are and how coachable they are and maybe how underestimated

they are even by some sharp MMA Minds out there what were your thoughts on on Ian Gary and everything that uh at this

fight week uh and friction with Neil magni health so I love the friction window magnet

didn’t love the cage Antics I mean usually when when you when you can talk all the [ __ ] you one in the cage let’s

squash it up but I mean he said no that you know Magnus come back listen you look great I mean he looked measured in

there I thought uh I I wanted to finish you had a one leg fighter in there I think there’s a lot of Ian Gary haters

because how confident he is and you know my friends especially are texting me how could he not finish with one leg you

know all that [ __ ] but I thought he looked cerebral in there I thought he looked good I love to call out a Wonder Boy

um I think that’s a strike of her Striker I think that’s a fun fight I think that’s a smart matchup for him not many people have outstruck Wonderboy and

he and Gary wants to be the best Striker he said it so uh the leg kicks were I mean crazy the first two putting Neil

Maggie in his ass and I’m holding a Neil magnetic and I go oh where’s some trouble here he can’t even take a leg

kick without getting put on his butt ass we’re in some trouble but yeah they look fantastic I mean you know I I’ve always

liked being Gary this was a number play but uh the number failed me this time so what gonna do

Kenny you know oftentimes when it comes to criticism I fall on the side of the fighter you know it seems like the New

Hampshire and our producer Cody marrow is coming out a little bit I know Daniel Cormier also was questioning on the

broadcast that maybe Ian Machado Gary should have finished but I thought he just was very methodical and didn’t over

risk and I mean he destroyed the guy but even in his post-flight interview with Joe wrote like the highest level guys

right like I don’t know man I don’t have a an ounce of criticism for Ian Gary not

getting the finish 30-24 for me is is basically a finish I might be somewhere

in the middle now I I picked Ian Gary to win I think that um there’s no question about it he’s got Elite striking skills

they’re absolutely and I do think he can be elite in that division but I guess I

still stand where I did before in saying that I don’t see the championship yet in

his future but I do see him being Elite and I think any time you’re able to

dominate someone like Neil magni I think it’s a great sign magni has been there and done that he has a ton of experience

he can be very awkward and difficult to go out there and beat let alone dominate like Ian Gary did so I think those are

all phenomenal signs for Ian Gary and his team um I I do think that there were

opportunities for him to go out there and finish that fight I think it would have been that much better for him and I

probably would have changed my mind a little bit on his ability to become a champion in the welterweight division just because to me that that’s more a

sign of a guy who is uh I don’t know mastering his craft right and I think

that Ian Gary fell a little bit short of that but as far as all the tools the weapons everything he was using and how

he even started it off by weakening Neil magni I thought it was phenomenal and

um you know here’s a kid who is definitely big for the division uh knows how to use it and I I just thought that

he had more opportunities to go out there and finish I was with DC on some of that not always easy to do though way

easier for us to to say that from the outside looking in uh but I did think

that when you see the disparity and skill between Gary and magni

um You probably would have liked to see him close the door on that fight but uh sometimes it just doesn’t happen

there’s still a lot of unknowns when it comes to the grappling of both Sean O’Malley and Ian Machado Gary and I

think for Sean O’Malley he certainly would have liked to have had the Intel of maybe getting taken down by Al

Jermaine Sterling and feeling that and having the opportunity Kenny right to get back up but

Machado Gary is going to have roots in Brazil he’s still going to be rooted at kill Cliff FC with all of the best

welterweights in the world I think depending on the stylist he’s fighting he may bounce around a little bit this

kid’s on the fast track at 25 years old and I do think there’s going to come a time on the Anakin Florian podcast even if he has suffered a loss at that point

in time if the show’s still going on that Kenny’s gonna say I now see World Championship potential in Ian Machado

Gary because it’s 25 years old became a judo black belt at 18. he’s just not going to be denied he’s just not going

to be denied and uh that’s not promotional hyperbole I really think the kid’s going to get there but again there are a lot of unknowns

it looks as though Dana Kenny wants to go November Madison Square Garden or Ian

Gary presumably that would be Steven Wonderboy Thompson and then wow a headlining spot in Dublin Ireland in

2024 so I would be absolutely stunned if September if we don’t see Ian Machado

Gary and Steve Wonderboy Thompson in less than three months live on pay-per-view at MSG Ah that’s a great

fight that’s a phenomenal fight makes a lot of sense all right so uh Marlon Cheeto Vera over

Pedro Munoz by unanimous decision Mario Batista by Damon Blackshear by unanimous

decision those were the other two uh bantamweight fights cry on the uh on the pay-per-view main card uh I really like

this Bautista cat you know Blackshear got off to a pretty good start in that fight anything for us my man on either

of those two fights in terms of this uh bantamweight heavy pay-per-view main card last weekend yeah I thought the

bermudius fight was a lot closer than maybe some people gave her credit for I thought Pedro was really in there I

thought that was uh I saw some Twitter people actually giving it to Pedro obviously but uh very close fight I mean

Pedro was wearing it the Cheeto hits different and Batista yeah this is a guy who came in the UFC with a lot of hype

comes from a great camp and then had some setbacks and he’s out there finding a guy who’s very tough to look good

against on short notice who just pulled a twister off and he showed he showed well there was a minute in the second

round I’m like oh Batista’s slowing down a little bit here he got a second win and won that third round and looked great you know I’ll uh blackshear’s

Corner thought he was up two rounds I didn’t love that advice but uh yeah Batista’s something I I’m Really Gonna

Keep On I really thought he was gonna showcase his overall skill and maybe put a name if if he would have got the Cody

fight if Cody didn’t pull out because I know Cody uh garbrand is still he’s not maybe Elite anymore but he’s still a

name and I thought Batista could have really shown out in that fight but uh I thought he looked great I mean this guy’s a limit format at that weight and

uh yeah I can’t wait to see it matched up I mean 135 is it’s just an absolute Shark Tank right now can flow a

stylistic flip up for sure for Mario Batiste to going from Cody garbrand to DeMent Blackshear not sure if you have

anything on Bautista or Cheeto Vera or uh or either of those two Pay-Per-View fights before I move to a few other

things yeah I thought Batista uh made some great adjustments in that fight um I thought I thought the second round

could have been for for Damon Blackshear by the way I I yeah I’m not sure you tell your fighter that when it’s that

close of a round uh because you don’t want to give up any rounds in this sport right but there’s no way I would have

been I would not have been confident in telling him that that’s for sure but it was a close fight but still Batista he’s

a stud man um thought I thought he made great adjustments was able to stop a lot of those takedown attempts showed that

he is an excellent Grappler in his own right and uh yeah it was cool

um and the other fight you were talking about uh Marlon Cheeto Vera yes yeah Cheeto and Munoz uh that was another

close one I you know Cheeto uh I thought again this

was just a classic Cheeto Vera fight right it’s like this slow start builds up gets stronger finds his rhythm in the

third round then like decimates this guy um but yeah it was good yeah I thought it was a really good uh performance for

Cheeto Vera I I think Cheeto fundamentally needs to take his footwork

to another level if he wants to be a champion in that insane division uh and

it might be his next one right he might fight O’Malley next and that plotting

style it’s what allows him to hit so damn hard but he’s got to be bouncy he’s

got to be in and out he’s got to be way more Dynamic with his footwork if he wants to uh be a world champion I think

um if he wants to I guess sway the odds more in his favor I should say because his power is phenomenal no question

about that I thought his hands looked much improved in this fight he is making improvements it didn’t seem like he took

any deep breath throwing that fight despite the crazy face um and yeah just uh Cheeto doing Cheeto

things and uh great win for him in a big spot I saw value in Munoz I went forward

and fit all right a couple other things that I want to get to on UFC 292 and uh big gun

Brian Peach commitment to this show is not lost on us I appreciate the extent I love that I want to get to the Brad’s

taboris and Katona print the shirts always bet on cardio Brad Katona weaponizing cardio right

this kid is impressive man like an acquired taste maybe right maybe you

don’t want to like go break bread with him I think he’s all right but I can’t feel like

Kenny this kid is really all right this kid is really tough and really good

and like he’s tough just doesn’t get tired and Cody Gibson just a hungry hungry fight and the Stefan Bonner

Forrest Griffin comparisons are not lost on me Kenny like this was Jason Knight Mississippi means suggested this is one

of the best fights in UFC history and uh I don’t necessarily need to go there but Kenny this fight was was outstanding and

I just think it speaks to the stakes and the commitment and the 13-week training camp and everything else

non-stop back and forth and you know I think what Joe Rogan was saying when he

said this is a fight ladies and gentlemen it was that you know you go to that dark place in your soul and your

heart when you’re in a fight like that where you’re like this isn’t about who wins this round or who wins this fight

like you’re fighting for your life that was kind of the sense that I got when these guys were fighting it felt like a

street fight and so in a lot of ways it looked like a street fight wasn’t the most technical fight in the world but

man these guys were trying to take each other out every single second the pace

to start that fight was insane and Katona you know just slowly started

pulling away from round after round just stayed more active was Landing some really clean shots and Gibson was just

fading man he was throwing a lot to arm punches and I think efficiency got the better of him or a lack thereof got the

better of him there but uh Katona man came in shape and uh it was just an

action-packed fight because of it Bry what do you got kid yeah this is my mortal lock I had bracketona this is the

last line that came out because it got you know we didn’t know until Tuesday he opened at -175 I loaded up on that went

down to 170 loaded up again I thought he was gonna win in a completely different way I thought he was going to Grapple

and beat up Cody because before Cody went on the show he fought Ray Borden got taken down like seven times he has

that problem he debuted against al Jermaine Sterling in the UFC was getting taken down and and Brad said no no we’re

gonna stand up we’re gonna bang it out I mean he went for like some takedowns but never really committed and uh just the

toughness of both those guys such a back and forth fight Brad had a huge weld inside his head then Cody I know I mean

I don’t know about a doctor but he broke his eye orbital for sure and there was a minute where he was like oh [ __ ] this

killed I might quit and then said no [ __ ] that here’s an uppercut yeah I mean the toughness of those guys and even

yeah I mean it just you know that’s a fight that I did not expect that to happen I thought Katona would would

grapple and win that way because that’s usually his game and was wasn’t surprised to see them just go out and

banging out old school tough finale which I feel like we haven’t got that in a while and it was it was awesome I love

it code Gibson’s inner monologue is like man my orbital floor is shattered but if

I tough it out I’ll get 50 Grand and maybe a UFC contract and that’s exactly what he got he got the UFC contract

which is rare and he also got the 50 000 bonus so congrats to both Brad Katona

and Cody Gibson we also acknowledge Kurt Hollow Beau not hollabaugh holla Beau 36

years of age was 0-4 in the UFC didn’t believe this third UFC stint was going to materialize now he’s The Ultimate

Fighter he is in and uh you know he’s a Brazilian Jitsu Jiu Jitsu black belt pressure Striker and uh that’s a really

big win for him and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him do a little bit of damage there at 155 pounds and then real

quick can’t flow on Brad Tavares Chris Weidman was the story and I just

love the way Brad Tavares handled this entire week he certainly was fighting for his home state of Hawaii with all

the devastation going on there but he also had no time for questions about whether or not Wyman was going to open

with a leg kick like he was he was Primal he was business-like he was no

nonsense and I thought it was an exceptional performance for a guy who’s 23 fights into his UFC career well he

was set up to be the [ __ ] all right because either he goes out and loses or he beats the guy who broke his leg so it

was it was a tough spot to be in but I thought he played it right mentally leading into that fight I think he was

saying the right things for him and his family right it’s like who cares about that guy’s story I’m trying to win and

save my career here and put some food on the table um and I thought that he came in with

that right mindset and a Hawaiian is never going to back away from a fight okay I’ve been watching Tavares a long

time he’s always been humble he’s always been a hard worker I’ve seen major major

improvements in his game since his first UFC fight to where he was at now

um maybe not in his prime right now his chin perhaps not what it used to be but look at the look at the row of killers

that he has faced over the course course of his career uh again just staying true

to that you know Hawaiian nature he will never say no to any fight out there and

and I also gotta mention you know I don’t always look at the com man so I was looking at some comments someone’s like but you know Kenny’s saying Tavares

is a big middleweight what is he talking about you know he’s only five eleven did you see his legs have you seen his legs

and didn’t he used to fight at 205 by the way um but you know I think that uh you know

when you see a guy with that kind of build uh and those legs you have to you

have to know those leg kicks are coming especially given the injury and you know Tavares is so good at setting them up

you know working with the great race stefo um he was just on point did all the right things and I again I think all the

superlatives were right on point with his counter wrestling his ability to stop those takedowns Chris Weidman is

not an easy guy to stop especially Up Against the Cage he had all the right answers there uh congratulations to Brad

Tavares no he was a star middle linebacker in high school you don’t get there by accident he’s a tremendous

athlete he’s an absolute boss and uh yeah he’s been in there with yoel Romero and Robert Whitaker and

just feel good for a really good dude and uh you know it’s like he’s a father in his own right and I just think his

ability to stay focused amidst all of that noise and especially the Hawaii stuff as well uh just wanted to do a

little hat tip there to Brad Tavares congrats to Gregory Rodriguez you know the elbows perhaps somewhat controversial to some you know can flow

is just such a violent [ __ ] in his head that he’s probably like yeah I’m just kidding uh but Gregory

Rodriguez one of my Institute of human performance teammates so we congratulate him just a great night for the mix martial arts and Combat Sports leader

UFC 292 largest gate in the history of TD Garden for a non-stanley cup final or

NBA Finals game and uh these UFC Live Events as Commodities just absolutely

absurd right now all right Kenny am I missing anything else no we got to move on we got some predictions UFC is going

to be in Singapore and uh you know if you like coffee and you like combat together that’s your reality this

Saturday August 26th main card 8 A.M Eastern on ESPN plus UFC Fight Night from

Singapore it is Holloway versus the Korean zombie this here is our main event Challenge and guys you know what I’ve been burning it at all lens I don’t

have the updated standings but what I can tell you kenflo had three units on Ian Machado Gary he also had two units

on algeman Sterling so all things considered it was a good week for Kenny Florian well no yeah Sterling that

didn’t hit but um yeah and you did Miss on uh Pedro Munoz so maybe not as good a week as possible

all right we have some predictions today and part of the reason we’re picking this preliminary fight and all of these

odds by the way courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook heavyweight Division I think there’s an interesting angle here between junior taffa and Parker Porter

and it’s very close on the money line so big gun Brian Petrie yes on I like seeing your face now as we go all right

doing a nice job directing with cameras today Justin taffa’s brother Junior tougher minus 122.

Paka Porter Plus 102. porterhouse coming off a wind yeah that

might not be a bad nickname Parker porterhouse I like the steakhouse for him I mean this guy’s got a rip when he

retires he’s got to open a steakhouse I’ve been saying it for years that’s that’s right yeah that’s right so he’s

coming off a win over Braxton Smith at UFC 288 not all that long ago that came on the heels of a loss to Justin tafa by

knockout in Perth in February of this year so now he tries the younger brother Junior who is four and one dropped his

UFC debut to mooseman back on April 22 Brian Petrie who do you have yeah I’ve been hearing a lot about junior taffa

junior tough I loaded up on him blindly kick off here you know mosman you know

it’s been hurt before it’s been knocked out before and he I was like I should have done tape study I shouldn’t look he

did not look good against moesman he had chances to win and he rushed everything he has no take down offense yet he’s

obviously young working on it looks exactly like his brother by the way which is uncanny and Parker Porter

doesn’t go from as many takedowns as I like he beat Braxton Smith who was on you know allegedly I saw some articles

he I think he is suspended right now he was on a lot of that Grandpa’s cough medicine you know what I mean the legal

stuff and he was jacked to the tits and Parker Porter took him out that’s a one-round fighter who was ready to knock

him out one round that’s what Junior taffa has here he’s a little Slicker in Braxton Smith obviously but I think Parker Porter with those legs and just

just everything with this size if he gets him down it’s over I think that’s Parker Porter the steakhouse is gonna

have to do and I think he fillets you see that word right there babe Junior taffa add a dog money I’m gonna take it

uh give me Parker Porter I’m not good picking heavyweights but I mean plus money on a guy who did not look good I’m

gonna get the I’m gonna take the steakhouse give it to me bro I have you and Erica Petrie talked about the use of testosterone or human growth hormone in

advance of your pro mixed martial arts debut so I got to get a physical every year I have high tea so I don’t know if

I take testosterone what whatever wow which I did not think because I can’t

grow face away I’m like no it’s low it’s low no the lady’s like no it’s it’s borderline high like it might be a

problem like [ __ ] all right well that’s that’s out God do you want to do some uh EPO or

something for your cardio yeah I might have to look into it my cardio is in jammed right now

maybe we’ll do some EPO for your cardioids

um but if cffc is not going to test you for EPO then everyone’s [ __ ] do some

blood doping more debut this is gonna go off the rails

quickly I love it I didn’t eat till like 4 30 in the morning you know did take a little bit

of a nap today that’s interesting all right Junior taffa Parker Porter House

which way you go little EPL little meth for cardio yeah yeah we’re the coaches

you need bro that’s right now sponsored by the attic and Florian

podcast um I love it dude listen I’m with I’m with I’m with Brian here listen when I

see two guys that are capable um of of either knocking the other one

out or it’s a little too close I’m always going to lean towards the underdog and Brian’s right man if Porter’s able to take this fight to the

ground which I think he he has he he can take people down he can’t get on top he

has decent ground certainly better than tapa here um he likes to get people up against the cage when he does have a grappling heavy

game plan he get him up he gets him up against the cage he looks for those singles and doubles gets on top has good

grounded pound could get good position I think that’s what he needs to do here uh taffa’s got some power too no question

about it but I think at this stage of the game he lacks that experience in

making good game time decisions so uh he could win this fight but I’m going to lead towards Porter here as well

all right next up high stakes in the women’s flyweight division Aaron blanchfield minus 148 Tyler Santos Plus

124. blanchfield the American will not be 25 until May Wow 11-1 win over Jessica and

Josh in what was a main event back in February she’s 5-0 in the UFC Brian and now draws the former World title

Challenger tala Santos the Brazilian is not fought since she challenged Valentina chefchenko in Singapore last

June who do you have here big fight yeah so we you know a lot of times we’ll label like we we label Bo nickel him

he’s him right I think Aaron blanchfield’s her I think she’s her I think she is that good I’m ready for it

to slip up at 24 years old but she’s so committed to this game I fall on

Instagram and literally she is she’s she’s I’m getting a crush on her not physically but just the way she trains

way and physically because she’s pretty but I’ve decided I dropped your wife’s name and like two minutes later I mean I

know you guys sometimes sit down and watch the show Nichols my wife if you go to Joe

Burrell’s Instagram every [ __ ] picture of burrow is liked by my wife so she I’m okay with that she’s gonna be

okay with this all right um I think she’s fantastic she’s great I mean the andrage fight she stood up on her drivers and then she got underground and

if you look at Aaron blanchfield’s last couple fights one takedown one take down because that’s all it [ __ ] takes I

think Tyler Santos is very good she looked great against uh chefchenko uh very close fight she landed her own

takedown she’s big she’s strong in there but again I’m ready for it to go off the rails in this low number at a Aaron

Blanchard which I would pay twice the number on this I’m loving it um the only reason I’m not going unit

heavy the only reason I’m not putting the nuts on the table right now is I like a bet later in the card but uh I

love Aaron Blair still in the spot I think she’s gonna win I think she could even finish that before finishes in a row and then at that point you just

gotta you just gotta throw in there I know she’s young but that that’s a title shot if she can finish Tyler Santos in my opinion give me Aaron Blanche Shield

Kenny with respect to talisanto so I thought Aaron blanchfield would be minus 250 as opposed to minus 150 or so you

got number three and number four at a hundred 25 pounds we mentioned also both prominently featured on the UFC’s pound

for pound list huge huge Eliminator at 125 we need your prediction you know

what you can’t forget here is that Tyler Santos is a very good fighter I I think that she’s a very good Striker and I

think she’ll probably be the cleaner Striker uh than than Aaron blanchfield out there doesn’t necessarily mean she’s

going to win but she has her weapons she has her tools and they are relatively sharp she’s also not too shabby on the

ground either when she’s able to take the back get positioned she’s very good at taking it back is she as good as

blanchefield on the ground no I think blanchfield positionally is going to be superior and it’s probably where this

fight ends up and because of that I think blanchfield is going to be able to out position tala Santos just wear her

down over time and then ultimately either get a TKO or get some kind of submission now this is the fight this is

a perfect fight that Aaron should take after that excellent win over someone like God draws you know she was calling

for sevchenko I said it was too early this is the right fight at this point in her career with her experience with her

age I love it this is the path towards towards uh that Championship uh

opportunity and um I don’t think it’s an easy fight at all uh but I do I I do

like blanchfield here I think if she can connect her striking in with her entries

get there safely I think she wins this fight nicely done kid nicely done all right next up big fight at featherweight

ninth ranked Giga Chicago minus 238 taking on number 15 Alice caceres who is

Plus 195. Higa was to face an EQ since last September he was he was forced to

withdraw tonight supposedly he’s had a hard time has Giga getting a fight since

that’s a dick Yusuf fight fell off so here we are nearly a year later Bry and he draws caseras who’s been on an

absolute tear winning seven of eight to reach the top 15 who do you have here yeah uh I mean Bruce Lee Royce Alexis

has been around forever he’s a good Striker he’s hard to put away um the guys I put him away usually generally on the ground but I think Giga

is just on a different level I’m a fan of this guy I I I I I I was saying earlier this week yo he got dog walked

by cater which he kind of did he got he got [ __ ] up by Gator but I want to watch the fighting Lane in 118 strikes

okay there wasn’t like he gave up and rolled over cater definitely won the fight and dropped him a few times but

Giga laying at strikes this guy’s an elite kickboxer Elite Striker that Giga kick to your liver is brutal and uh I

think you know with casares yeah I think this is a perfect matchup this is exactly who he should have came back from with a year off or longer than that

after the beating he took from cater rest the brain rest everything casares might want to mix up some takedowns but

I don’t love his takedowns he kind of clinches wants to put You Against the Cage and kind of body lock taking down Giga has worked on that that’s primarily

his thing early in his career you could take him down he is since uh has rectified that but his striking I think

is just beautiful with his hand more so this kicks but I think his hands are working the time off I’m not afraid of

minus 245 I’m not afraid of so uh give me Giga here I like them big as well I feel like I’m seeing it just so goddamn

goodness clip that when I go over but I’m just saying uh I like Giga here uh

and I think he might even get a finish here I think he’s back all right fear is not a factor for Brian Petrie that was

Sarah on the other side can flow he’s won two in a row defeated Daniel Pineda back on June 3rd he’s fought like 28

times in the UFC crazy what do you think about this one at 145 pounds get yeah I

think this is a perfect fight for Geek as Brian alluded to I think casares has shown great improvements I think

mentally spiritually technically he’s looking phenomenal on a two-fight win streak right now over two you know

decently tough guys and it’s great to see that uh at this point of his career but this is a really tough matchup for

him in Giga I just don’t think he’s going to be able to take him down um you know at this stage of the game I

think Giga has improved significantly in that uh in that modality and I think that uh giga’s kick to the ribs are just

an absolute problem you know it’s coming but it’s very difficult to stop it’s very unusual in that he’s not attacking

you at the shin to the rib he’s attacking You by digging those damn toes into your wrist and um he’s going to

touch an organ and it’s not going to be nice so I like Giga here um and let’s go with

give me five Unis live unit trigger by Kenny

1190 dollar bets to yield 500. you guys get out of bedtime when we

go Prime Time on a Sunday night or maybe you’d like doing bedtime I don’t know so I’m getting out of bedtime right now

yeah yeah it’s fine it’s absolutely fine all right homemade event cam flow we’re

gonna leave with you here it’s a light heavyweight rematch Ryan Spann minus 148 Anthony Lionheart Smith Plus 124.

so Smith took the first meeting it was September of 2021 he did so by submission just three minutes and 47

seconds into the fight since he has lost two in a row to high level competition there’s heat on this matchup as well

Kenny very interesting fight relevant fight at 205 pounds span or Smith for you kenpool

awesome all right under normal circumstances I would feel bad about not putting the kids to bed but especially

me being away but I cook dinner for the first time in my life in my career guys

whoa so we could put that yeah actually tonight tonight

I did a little little cheeseburger uh like taco thing it was it was pretty

basic but it was delicious it was simple but I I the kids liked it it was good because Clark was impressed so anyways

uh for me that’s that’s a big deal all right so let’s see uh Ryan’s been Anthony Smith uh Anthony Smith has

probably and hopefully Brian agrees one of the most difficult guys to rely on

right it’s like I love Anthony he he’s a great analytical mind he knows the sport

very well he’s got some great skills but on Fight Night man it is like throwing

dice unfortunately and I think that you know he could be really hot he could be really cold I have no idea what’s going

to happen and I don’t don’t know where he’s at at this stage of his career and I didn’t love his last fight to me it

seemed like he just didn’t want to be out there and and I wonder if he wants to be out here against Ryan span he

better be and if he is hey he could absolutely win this fight on the feet or on the ground but Ryan Spann is an

extremely dangerous guy on the feet and on the ground uh more so on the feet a

positionally he may suffer from some issues on the ground maybe but he’s still very dangerous he’s got some good

submissions he’s got some good ground and pound but boy does his power worry me against someone like Anthony Smith

and also Anthony hasn’t quite solved the issue of calf kicks or leg kicks in

general and I think that’s something that Ryan span is probably going to try to expose here uh and then he’ll try to

you know look for one of those big Power shots with his hands upstairs and um yeah I I worry about Anthony here in

this one I like span here um I think that uh I don’t know you have

a hungry fighter against and I’m not sure where he’s at at this point there’s career fighter so

um yeah I’ll leave it at that fair enough absolutely Fair Anthony Smith uh and you’re wise to point him

out as an analytical mind uh I think he has a bright future call and fights for the UFC as well one of my favorite

colleagues on this crazy UFC Road Show and really has an appetite for learning about television and not just sort of

going up there and cashing a paycheck so a lot of respect for the individual but it is hard to quantify where his

championship hunger might be at this stage of his career and I think that’s fair Ryan Spann has won two of three

since that main event against Anthony Smith he was submitted O’Brien’s last time out against Nikita kurloff on March

11th who do you have here my brother yeah so this is obviously Kenny alluded to such a hard fight I even I even put

spin in that category as a hard guy to predict I mean he had Johnny Walker on the ropes and it’s like what are you doing uh Nikita kryloff he falls into it

you know this is what I call my podcast a bold spaghetti fight you put two pictures on the wall you throw a bowl of

spaghetti whatever the spaghetti lands on more that’s what you pick so I almost won a pass in this fight but the fight

has a little bit of heat and I think that’s going to motive Anthony Smith I think he kind of was ghost walking as

Johnny Walker who’s a big huge guy I get it but that’s a fight that he possibly could have won Johnny Walker looked

fantastic but um I think Anthony Smith that dog money here I think if he goes to the ground I think he can submit span I think spans

fight iq’s lacking I think his athletic abilities off the charge power off the charge but after round one Midway

through round one if he’s not going the way he wants to go what happens I think he might check out mentally and fall

into something I do think Anthony Smith has good submission so I think Smith is going to get his mission that’s how I

play this fight I’m gonna pick Anthony Smith personally enough for the listeners out there I play Smith by decision if not just kind of stay away

from the fight um but yeah that’s my take all right so big and Brian petrick

teased like a big bet of some kind so we’ll see if that happens before we get out of here yeah do you have any prelim

uh I’m gonna use my time I wanna I wanna say something about the ray Longo team I know you guys covered it just real quick

thing I’m gonna yield my prelim time to say something about them all right well before we get to the main event give me the longer stuff all right no basically

what it is is you know I’m getting close to Ray long ago I’ve met Matt frivola’s dad you know I got Long Island blood my

mother’s from Long Island and you guys touched on everything about how respectful and great alja was after the

fact that again I’m still baffled he gets food but what I love is the closeness of the team Loyalty means so

much to me and the fact that you got more Rob sitting there in the cage all in the verge of tears who’s the number

one Contender who could have made that situation made that moment about him going up to Sean going or you’re calling

out cheetah no no [ __ ] that you’re gonna get me he didn’t do that he sat in the back and said this my teammate just lost

I’m devastated and that just is a testament to loyalty to that team to the coaching everything like that and

there’s not I mean listen I’ve been I’ve been a few gyms I’m not like I’m a a [ __ ] expert or anything because a lot

of [ __ ] that goes on in gyms that are aren’t like that like what Ray Longo has in Long Island and uh I respect it so

much so hats off to all those guys that’s all I want to say no that’s a very important point and I’m glad you

took the time to make it it’s interesting how you lean into those New York Roots it’s like I’m I’m trying to like hide the fact that my dad’s from

Seaford New York I was co-created in Massachusetts anyway I don’t think what’s funny I’ve never been to Long

Island but I’ve been to Boston several times for Thanksgiving growing up because my grandmother’s a twin sister she married a guy from Boston so we used

to go there for Thanksgiving so yeah you know there we go so good choice buyer Mary and [ __ ] Boston yeah some people

suggested that bostonians are mean I don’t think collectively we’re as mean as New Yorkers but it’s very cool for me

to see how much my co-workers love the city of Boston it’s always heartwarming when people like the place that you’re

from all right Main Event featherweight Eliminator of sorts former champ Max Holloway minus 8.50 Korean zombie Chan

song Jung plus 520 only man that beat Max Holloway since 2019 Alexander volkanovsky Max has won three of four

bested Arnold Allen over five rounds back in April in Kansas City Brian he’s in a bit of a tough spot divisionally

until Volk loses or leaves uh Korean zombies last fight came against the bulk

man that was a losing effort April of 2022. will you have a play for us on the main event yeah uh you know sometimes

fights hit me like lightning bolts I I’ve been tracking this fight for two weeks now going I can’t I mean I mean

the number on Max Holloway should in my opinion should be minus like two thousand I mean I think well no offense

to Korean zombie I just think he’s taken steps back as opposed to steps forward he’s very tough he’s always gonna be in

the fight he’s got power in his hands but he hasn’t evolved he hasn’t improved as a fighter in my opinion and he’s just

getting older Max Holloway besides vulcanovsky is is the best 145 I mean you can make an argument he’s there I

mean I thought he would go up to 55 I mean I don’t think you’re gonna get a four fight with bulk after the last one I thought you get a 55 he’s got the long

body for it staying at 45 years going to Singapore to fight kind of you know I mean the the not really Hometown guy but

fighting that part of the world guy in the main event here and Max at 8 50. I’m doing something a copper should never do

I should walk away from this I should say no that’s no you can’t do that I would pay double this price I would put

a hundred units on this I’m gonna be putting a lot of money on my own money this is a five minute play for me on Max Holloway I think he’s just steps ahead

of Korean zombie I think Korean zombie has a puncher stance like everybody but when’s the last time we’ve seen Max get hit and knocked out or knocked out he’s

never been knocked down so I just I don’t see the path for victory on Korean zombie here sure he can grapple he’s got a twister submission himself he has good

Jiu Jitsu but I just don’t see that happening I think Max is is on point and I think he’s taking fights now just to

because I he knows he’s not going to get the Valk fight unless Valk loses and he’s taking fights now just to prove his

greatness and to get better as a mixed martial artist and and I think that’s all the motivation a guy like him needs

so I’m heavy on Max here big time uh yeah I’ll fight you in a play and uh I

think he’s gonna get a finish as well uh I feel like Max is on a finish in a while so I see we’re finished as well coming 4 250 American dollars for

patreon Max Holloway can’t flow who do you have in the main event um you know these are two guys that are

must-see TV I think this is a an awesome matchup I know it’s one that Max

Holloway has wanted I think a lot of 145 Pounders want this matchup against Korean zombie because of how much of a a

legend the Korean zombie is uh but also it’s because he moves forward doesn’t

care about moving his head uh is it one to kind of dance in and out he plots

forward and uh says Fu basically uh let’s see who’s tougher and

um it’s what makes him so dangerous but it’s also what makes them so vulnerable and you know am I supposed to bet

against the volume King from Hawaii and Max Holloway again someone like Korean

zombie you just can’t do it and you know big favorite here at minus 850 but you

know he’s a big favorite for a reason it could have been even bigger in my opinion just based on Holloway and his

style I think what I’m most intrigued by is is this a Max Holloway that has

peaked you know was his has he peaked a few fights ago is he still improving are

we gonna see some new Tools in his toolbox I don’t know I’m I’m uh I’m

willing to be surprised and I’m looking forward to this fight Holloway one of the biggest Legends one of the one of my

favorite fighters to watch so this should be fun all right if you want more from Brian

Petrie at Brian Petri MMA big gonna appreciate the extended time my man and we will talk to you uh in about a week

as we look forward to Parish brother awesome I’ll see you boys all right there he is Brian Petrie with us most

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City yes sir yes sir Shane Burgos clay Collard in the main event kit wow oh yeah one of my favorites yeah

play call it oh I love clay Collard I love Shane Burgos you know

c-o-am you know who else I love what do you got hennan

fajeda rude so if you don’t know dude do a backflip

off of one leg and stick it on one leg you ever see that a six foot eight dude it’s crazy crazy so if you don’t know

part of the reason Ken flow is not with us for UFC 292 in Boston is because he was at the theater of Madison Square Garden on Friday night for the pfl as

henan fajeda crochets Maurice Green in the main event that was pretty

violent and then Larissa Pacheco my goodness 14 seconds she’s a bad [ __ ] huh she’s a problem she’s a problem and

I have a feeling that every organization of the world is going to be trying to uh get her Services because she goes out

there to decimate her opponent doesn’t last long uh she might be the one to

take the Throne of someone like an Amanda Nunes but as you said John Wei Lee and her it’s like they’re right

there man as far as best of the best in my opinion yeah bye follow kenflo’s business at

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supporting the show for kemploy I’m John and we’ll talk to you until next week until then

well hello and welcome to the wing in podcast where my man has forgotten to comb his hair because it’s all looking

like the rocks at Vasquez Rocks in California this is how I comb it these days man what are you talking about this

is all I do dude that’s fake that’s a fingers wave thing man what is that John

I haven’t used a comb or a brush in maybe 20 years I swear to God having

music no come on this is all I do brush on your head feels great John I don’t

touch him really no no that’s the problem now what do you mean that’s the problem

what do you mean this John you don’t touch any of those things your hair

stays the same time you wake up I see they just kind of stick it’s the same thing 60 years it’s been there like that

yeah it’s not changing see for me like I let it just do whatever it wants to do and yeah I just kind of temper it the

way if it’s going that way I let it go that way yeah that’s a nice word you’re tempering yeah right I just let it go

the way it wants to go you’re so educated look we’re a little late today but let’s uh let’s not forget because while we’re late let’s go ahead and give

this an honorable mention everything because we were ready to go

it was two o’clock in the morning yeah I was ready and I was on this and you my

man we were sitting here talking and then we started saying what happened to Dave where’s Dave and then we started

calling David there was no answer and it was like damn I hope Dave is okay do you think Dave felsing no no David doesn’t

fall asleep no not Dave Dave’s one o’clock in the morning where he’s at it’s no big deal yeah Dave’s not a false

kind of Dave Dave what happened what happened baby well that’s why you got a new producer called Henry here today

it Henry came in from Home Depot

the most Lots he edges the edges the weeds he does it all man Henry’s a

multitasker around the house do some electrical works these Henry doesn’t fall asleep on the job oh man

but you know what Dave brought up a good point you can’t I say bro you were late he’s like I wasn’t late I

just never showed up I was like you’re right you can’t be late if you never show up oh no Dave be honest yeah what

time did you finally wake up and realize oh not long after you guys go off because I because I saw that they missed

calls or not and I was like ah crap and that’s like normally I don’t feel bad when like when like our our you know

when things don’t line up with us because we’re always all over the place all through this but the last night man I felt like absolute because of

that man it’s so horrible I think he was relieved when he texted me he’s like hey man I just I I was like I said don’t

worry man we get we get it I gotta be honest we weren’t bad yeah we were talking we were laughing about it we

were more concerned that wonder if you were okay or not yeah I was just concerned that you were not at a bar none yeah yeah I know yeah

well like throwing kids in the pill for about four hours and then

and I was like I have a sofa in my studio here so I was like laying on there I was laying on the cell phone

what are you doing I was like what are you doing show us the sofa come on come on Aaron show everyone the sofa all right don’t be shy there’s Dave

show us the sofa sofa’s like there it is oh it’s so comfortable yeah I’m just

gonna lay down here for a minute I won’t fall asleep you you know that sofa looks

like something you’d see in Hollywood where they sexual assault people that are interviewing

couch that’s a Harvey Weinstein Cassie Couch right there that’s what it is

Tanya’s the one that picked out that’s how you ended up with two babies

she had you lay down two babies later right there on

that couch get it my man get it oh no we we

were just more worried that you were all right and then once you sent me a text I was like ah now you’re cool I’m surprised you couldn’t me snoring in

Dallas up there I gotta be honest man John it’s painful to watch these

fights so late I mean oh I’m already an early riser right and like I’m telling you hey East

Coast is getting hammered it is so hard to wash these things and now you know see now you know especially last night

when we’re with the uh like the sh the fights the fights were not good last night I mean there was a couple stand-ups

because it was I mean there was a couple there was decision decision decision decision decision it was like oh come on

well someone finished here the worst part was like I’m gonna give an example real quick is the Ian Gary fight yeah

bro you could have got him out of there you were torturing me watching you just go through and I think hold on you know but you get

in and we’ll get into that fight but I do think he wanted to try to torture

his opponent yeah I know but I guess

but here’s the thing is it really just kind of made me feel like you couldn’t finish him

that’s what it made me feel like we’ll talk about it let’s let’s look but before we start off on any of the the

fight card stuff but let’s go ahead and get right into max Holloway put out something go ahead Dave why don’t you read it real quick and then uh John yeah

I’m sure the whole world knows at this point about the fires in Hawaii really sad and uh Maui which is horrible being

there um one of the most gorgeous places ever um max holiday comes out and he um made

a comment about everything that’s going on in Lahaina no it’s heartbreaking uh you hear the stories you hear everything

I don’t know if you’ve been following the news in any way but here the state the government is so many levels I’m

straight up gonna see it they failed the people of Lahaina and it’s kind of heartbreaking when it felt like they

were lollygagging too after everything happened the people the Hawaiian people the locals there they’re the ones that

stood up that took the responsibility they are helping and are still helping as we speak it’s super heartbreaking

all right so on my side I don’t know about you on your side John but I’ve got a lot of friends that are from Hawaii

from you know a lot of friends that are from Lahaina yeah so yeah they run yeah

it’s ugly it’s not only ugly just the way that they handled it at all the fires broke out and what did they do

they sent the kids home they’re from school there was incompetence that led

to people being in situations that they never should have I don’t care about the property look I’m being honest I mean if

if it’s my property yeah I care but you know you can property is property and

human life is something else and you know I think right now Josh they have

somewhere right around a hundred verified deaths and when you’re talking about verified deaths you’re talking

because they have identified those people this is gonna get way up there this is

going to be in the high hundreds up to a thousand people this is way above what people are

understanding right now from what I’ve been told from people that live there it’s unbelievable and part of it is you

know they’re having a hard time moving things because they have people that have been burnt and they’re they want to

identify them they don’t want to you know uh to serve the body make a make a mistake

and disrupt something where they can’t identify them it’s a horrible position to be in but you know when you see I I

don’t know you know it’s if you’re unlucky enough to be in big fires I’ve been in big fires

I I’ve told everyone throughout my life dude I’ll I’ll swim in the ocean with

sharks I which I do I’ll do all those things I don’t with fire I can’t hurt fire and man I’ll tell you what if

you’ve ever been in a big fire which I have it is the scariest goddamn thing because

it’s you are burning when you’re there it’s so hot the air

you can’t breathe it’s unbelievable and it’s unbelievable how fast a fire moves

so I feel so bad for the people there in line and the fact that I mean they stop

you know people have been trying to reach out and and donate things and do things and they’re stopping that it’s like what the frick help these people

that’s when the the locals took it in the upon themselves to start doing things on themselves by bringing the

boats in through a different channel to get the the materials to the people that need it so what I’ve read so far is that

FEMA is out of money this is the okay look without getting too political guys what did they just

give to Ukraine thank you I have I have American citizens who

have been freaking just destroyed and you’re giving things across the world

way to go this is the one of the most upsetting things look I like I said I’m

not trying to get political I’m simply saying we’re sending billions to another country we have Americans Hawaiians

people that need our help and they’re stopping even locals from bringing in

product bringing in food bringing in water they’re having to do it through a different Channel why I don’t understand

this at all I can’t wrap my head around it and the sheriff the um the chief of

police yeah chief of police though they’re not even allowed they’re not they’re not allowing any media to come in and ask questions or answer any

questions they’re not doing anything they will give people any type of

um confirmation of what the hell is going on and so that’s the saddest part to me is

then I mean like I said without getting political the administration is went

reached out and said yeah we’ll give every family 700 per person what did we just send to Ukraine we sent

over a hundred billion dollars what are we doing what are we doing as a

country this drives me absolutely insane we don’t take care of our own I feel for Max I feel for every person that has

been involved in this every person that lost somebody every American that is on that island

right now my heart’s broken for you guys I wish there was some other way we could help I wish we could do more for you

guys and I from what I understand like they’re not even taking in shipments

anymore they’re not allowing outside stuff to come in I have no idea why what would be the reasoning behind that

please someone in the comments explain to me maybe you’ve got some some other reason why we’re not allowed to get

blankets clothes I mean all these things I’ve donate I’ve donated a ton of like clothes that I had like old fight shirts

not they’re still brand new in the packages but just stockpiles of stuff that I had I donated at all supposed to

be going out there to Maui but they’re saying that they don’t even know if it’s gotten there because they can’t get it

to anybody there to deliver it to people yeah um my heart breaks for all of them like

I said I’ve got a lot of friends that uh live there that live that are on Maui that are on Oahu on in the Big Island

all those things they said like it’s just it’s one of the most corrupt areas right now in terms of politics and it’s sad it’s sad to see I

don’t know what’s going on nobody knows what’s going on um but you can see that

that no these go ahead really these Realtors

these corporate people they’re not gonna let a catastrophe go to waste they’re

reaching out to families trying to buy their properties they’re trying to do whatever they can to make money these

these people haven’t even more in jail over the fact that some of their families lost it’s really sad it’s really sad this is what it’s come to

this part of what you know their entire families have been destroyed and it’s

you have I think they’ve had I want to say 11 suicides now of people who have

lost their families and have now taken their lives because of it it’s a serious

problem and they need to do something to John try to help the people do you you know what I want to get back to

is is horrible as horrible as September 11th was September 12th was amazing yeah

you never saw this country in my in my lifetime I never saw this country United

more so than that day and I don’t that’s we need to get back to that I don’t care

what it takes I don’t I like I said I’m not trying to get too political I don’t want to get into all this Democrat

Republican I want to just go right to the fact that like if we stick together black white asian Hispanic doesn’t

matter all nationalities if we stick together there’s no one that can beat us we can

be strong enough to do anything helping Maui is the one of the easiest things that we can do

that it just doesn’t make any sense I can’t understand why we can’t unify to help them and get get more resources to

them as soon as possible and making sure that they are not put out for too long I mean I’ve seen videos of them you know

trying to flee the fire in the ocean oh yeah it’s it’s sad it really is sad horrible my heart goes out to them and I

hope that hopefully we get them more than 700 here pretty damn soon that’s what I hope all right look um

like I said let’s move on I don’t wanna I I can I can talk about this all night if I don’t want to

um I wanna let’s move on let’s go right into uh let’s talk about something yeah let’s talk about some fights we’re going

to get into some fights you want to talk let’s talk UFC first then we’ll go to pfl absolutely let’s go right to the UFC

well we have the the fan wait go ahead I’m sorry no do you want to talk about the main event first sir absolutely

let’s talk about the manager let’s go let’s go you know I want to say there’s there was a lot of good things here and

it was funny because we were texting just as the fight started and you told me

John I got a feeling Sean O’Malley’s going to get done tonight yeah yeah right and I was like well you know I’d

love to see that happen but not too sure it’s gonna happen right well you were right I was wrong

and it’s hey it is part of you know what you know occurs in fighting and you see

things at times damn how’s that better I’m always

slapping things so anyways it’s a matter of gone do it again again what the hell

is that how’s that better no no no

there we go there you go Sean O’Malley when he walked into that

cage he did look nervous you know it was funny because Dan Cormier picked it up too and I was like he looks nervous and

I was talking with another guy you know the judge’s voice in the end uh he said he goes he looks nervous I said yeah he

does and I said look big moment I mean this is pressure it’s all about how you

handle the pressure and then aljamin Sterling you know came out

looked like he was pretty relaxed but it was and I said it to you in the first thing

I probably would have given you know al-jamin the first round just based upon that last little bit because it was very close it was leg kicks compared to you

know every now and then you know a nice jab or something by O’Malley but it was the the movement and the footwork

of Sean O’Malley and I told you this dude his footwork is beautiful right now his lateral movement and the way he’s

controlling that distance is giving algemane problems and that was what led

to the Finish because if you look at he got algeman to overextend algeman overextends trying to land a

left hand and he goes right over the top once he’s extended out he’s stuck there there’s nowhere for him to go

and it was a beautiful right hand over the top that and aljamin saw it coming you know I was one of those ones when

you know you know you see it you go oh that’s gonna hurt and you know and it puts you down and he went after him and

I’ve heard all kinds of things about you know it was an early stoppage I don’t believe it was he actually went out at

one point got brought back again yeah you can watch it he uh he came back in but he did get put

out he comes back in he’s fighting but it was a matter of it all got to the point where when he’d rolled it looked

like he was starting to cover up and that’s when the stoppage came but it wasn’t going to change he was going to take more abuse in it

it’s one of those you look and you go you never know this is why you fight the

fight because I really the way that aljamin was able to come into other guys

that are good Strikers into range and get his hands on people and do good work

it was not there he was struggling against the distance and control of Sean

O’Malley and I don’t blame him look that’s not an easy thing to deal with and sometimes you don’t know how bad

it’s going to be until it’s there and then he was struggling with it but man I tell you what I want to give Al

Jermaine a ton of credit because like he handled that loss and he handled it like

the champ that he is he said the right things you know like he actually said in

the game something about well you know are you going to move to 45 and he goes

Sean O’Malley can do that Alexander volkanovski can do it too so I’m gonna have to rethink some things

but look he’s fought beautifully in the last couple of years it’s a loss if it’s the you know

if it’s the loss of the title then you know I’m sure that bothers him but man he handled it like a champ and uh

he was good champ while he was holding the belt he fought the best guys there so that’s the thing about being champ

man you’re always going to fight the next guy up that is man they’re they’re looking for it it’s not easy to continue

that run I got a long ways to go let’s go all the way back to the Peter yawn fight and

what did I say during that fight after the after even though he got the win it’s very controversial Sean O’Malley gets to win over Peter Young and I say

to myself I don’t think that he won but but he’s super impressed with us we’re

super impressed with his performance because he had fought pretty much nobody up until then I mean he fought chitovera

but Cheeto wasn’t where he was ranked at now when he fought him so it was like kind of like they were both kind of in

that little area of like hey we break it we lost the Cheeto I know but I’m saying though is that when he cheetah was the toughest guy he fought but Cheeto wasn’t

ranked where he is now Cheetos started making gains after that where Sean he made gains also but he’s also for Sean

it was more of a business decision on who he fought at those times he made sure that he tried to get the easiest

fights he could for the amount of money he was making brilliant I mean we talked about that and said hey he’s being smart

yeah I mean he handled look he has handled his career phenomenally right now I mean everything

I’ve seen him do right now he’s he’s at the top of the food chain right now he’s done it all very very well and who’s to

sit back and go man who am I to tell him how to do anything this kid’s doing it all he’s doing it

all right um I look at where he came from after the Peter John fight I don’t know what it was but I also know that I’ve been

there before it was a little bit of a switch where you’re like wow I can really compete with these guys I can

beat these guys it’s that switch that confidence is key kind of situation we’ve always talked about that switched

to me after that fight he realized even though he’s he got lucky I wouldn’t say

he got lucky he skated by on that on that decision he got the win it was a close fight he was a close it was a

close fight he got the win so good for you have to win but this lets you know that there’s that little bit of him

getting that win understanding like I can stop this guy’s takedown sure I gotta take a knock I was able to get back up several times I was able to

strike with him I was able to hurt him I was able to do all these things this guy was putting it on aljo the

first fight he’s like yeah and then he can’t you know I’ll just came back in the second fight and had had great great success yes against him but it was a you

know it was a good fight the second fight but aljo was able to Nodge out and get the win that confidence that he has shown since

then he’s at another level now he understands how good he is and what I saw also was

right from the beginning I saw the the hesitation of algeman Sterling because of the speed and the reach of Sean

O’Malley and since we have started this podcast what did I say about body types

This Tall long and lanky body type is perfect for this sport Anderson Silva

Jon Jones Luke rockhold Sean O’Malley guys that are built like this for their

weight classes and Tall long and Corey sandhagen they’re they’re problems their problems Israel their problems uh Alex

but they’re problems for people they are problems because of the reach the speed and most of the time they got

power as we saw last night this little 135 pounder he got some crack you know and so when when you’re a wrestler

trying to get in close that distance the hesitation on the feet you can see that aljo was very uncomfortable right off

the bat of the speed of Sean O’Malley the accuracy of his push kick the accuracy of his jab the quick one-two

combinations and getting out and circling never letting his feet settle in front of him he fought a beautiful

fight now he said oh I kind of hurt my rib a little bit whatever it was you know and

he was he didn’t grapple for six weeks yeah but let me just be honest with you that might have been a good thing

because as I’ve started to think about this right is we spent half our camp trying to get

better at the things that will help stop the person we’re fighting instead of getting better at the things that we do and so I’m like thinking to myself this

guy spent more time using this footwork he spent more time yeah exactly sticking and moving

stepping off doing different combinations off of that movement learning how to face yeah his face

faints in faint Out close the distance he landed that shot so beautifully he was just right right outside of range I

mean I gotta be honest he did a better one con he did it better than Conor did against Jose Aldo Conor got hit against

Jose Aldo this guy he slipped right out of position probably about an inch inch and a half then came right back in with

the beautiful right hand sat him to his face beautifully done by Sean O’Malley everything that he has done

it’s led him to where he is right now he’s the champ he is the champ there’s new there’s a new boss in town as Michael Jordan used to say when he’d

walk in to you know to train him with Magic Johnson Larry Bird and those guys nope there’s a new boss in town There’s

a new boss in town he’s he’s the guy right now um everything he did last night and his

marketability all of those things now John he called out Cheeto I get the

Cheeto situation Cheetos deserves it but where do you put marab as a number I