WEIGHING IN #391 | HOLLOWAY VS KOREAN ZOMBIE | MIKE PERRY/LOGAN PAUL

well hello to everyone it is Wednesday and we do have fights today so we’re

going to talk about the pfl we got that coming up we’ve got the UFC with one of my favorite Fighters Max Holloway going

at it that’s going to be an incredible fight between him and the Korean zombie but we got all kinds of things outside

of the world of fighting well I guess kind of attached to fighting I don’t know so much stuff going on you’re

you’re all the way look at you you’re reminiscing of California with your your Bellator Long Beach shirt on very famous

shirts I thought they did a great job I thought they did a great job of making this show they did it’s a good with the sunset kind of looking thing it’s kind

of cool I like it it’s pretty nice that actually that one right behind my shoulder that way is my favorite shirt

that’s from Fort Lauderdale that way yeah that one right there oh I know you like that one that one is not you put it

on the black light and it pops real well I like it not that I hang out in black lights or anything but you know I will

obviously somebody does pretty cool shirt man it’s a pretty cool shirt that one and this one these are my two favorites I mean I’ve got a bunch of

other ones they just came out with the Chicago one right the one we last time we were in Chicago and it just looked like the Chicago

Bulls logo and I was like yeah yeah yeah it wasn’t too good it was all right it was like you know but it was it was nice

it was both sides oh man hey John Chicago was one of those towns that like the first time I went the first time I’d

ever been to Chicago is when I fought Benson Henderson like eight weeks before yeah it’s the first time I’ve ever been and uh I have been in the airport but

I’ve never been like in the town or in the city and so when I fought Benson they took us out there eight weeks before to promote the

fight radio stations you know meet and greets all that stuff anyways I was like man I was really mesmerized

with how beautiful it was it’s beautiful people were nice food is [ __ ] awesome

food’s great the food is food’s good um you know it was really when I but

then when I went back for the fight it was miserably cold miserably cold it was in January yes it was a lot of fun I

still had fun you know uh it was a great spot dude I you know I remember before

that fight with you and the best I rounded the corner of this building and I’m walking in it’s all icy

everywhere and everything and I round the corner and the wind just hits you

and I’m like start to walk in it I said no [ __ ] that and I start to turn around but as I turn around now it’s pushing me

and I’m ice skating it’s just making me slice I was like this is not good and I

can’t even go the way I want to go the same exact thing happened to me after the fight so I’ve got my little Sling from my wrist and my my hand being all

[ __ ] up so I’m gonna sling and I’m trying to cross the street we’re trying to get to a diner it’s like two blocks down so we walk two blocks but the the

buildings were blocking a lot of the Wind but then when we came straight where the the street went through

man we tried to cross the crosswalk it pushed us on the downhill a little bit and absolutely yeah we were trying to it

was almost like trying to swim across a river you know yeah yeah so we were just we were getting pushed down as we were

trying to get across we just kept trying to move forward move forward finally got to the next block and we’re able to get across there to walk up the icy sidewalk

to get up to the restaurant we need to get to but it was pretty funny dangerous but funny

um Chicago’s Chicago Chicago is a great place though it really is yeah if someone’s never been there they got to

go in the food I will say it’s got some of the best food of any place I’ve ever had dudes I just think people need to do

themselves a favor turn the [ __ ] TV then the news off and you’ll actually go to these places

and be like wow this place is really nice if I was to ever listen to the news I

don’t but if I was there or listening to the news I mean I get small Clips on my social

that pop up and it’s like it’s there they talk like it’s the worst place in the country to live it might have it

might have some its own problems but every [ __ ] city does you know and

uh from out like every time I’ve been there the people have been nice the food’s been amazing the restaurant’s been nice hotels have been nice wherever

it is I mean everywhere I’ve gone throughout that City it’s been it’s been fabulous and I got nothing bad to say

about it yeah fantastic I agree what the hell is that noise John talk to me please

it is I want you to see this because it’s oh they’re away just drawn into you see

that cool light they are mesmerized it’s like stay away from the light zip John I

have you mentioned it yeah I was like I was like okay okay like four or five the whole show like four or five

something blew up I thought someone was toenails I mean these little tiny gnats

and I was like I can’t take it I got it in here it’s gonna be a good show

instead of those things flying in front of my face I was the last show I was like what the hell happening here it was

like because of one of the the sodas or something I don’t know but because I don’t have any food in here huh don’t

know I must have left to open monster I think it’s one of the ones that blew up probably from what do they call it

they’re called like uh sugar flies or what fruit flies yeah yeah yeah all right well I can tell

you right now they are all dying that’s very mean so every time you

hear that I think another one goes down yeah

um all right well let’s uh let’s go ahead and start rolling into these this fight card man there’s a lot going on this weekend uh we got the pfl we got

some boxing we got the UFC uh we got a little bit of drama at the uh Jake Paul Dylan danis along with figuring out who

the alternate is which is I think is fantastic I wish we could just push Dylan right out of the position and just

put Platinum Mike Perry right there that’d be awesome because I’d love to see that fight more so and I think if Platinum

Mike Perry was to fight Logan Paul I think he’d [ __ ] him up I think he’d [ __ ] him up I don’t think I

I think I’m looking forward to seeing that fight hopefully I mean look if history

now you want Dylan to pull out let’s follow the agenda here hey hey who’s up

who do you think you are silence silence silence

no I get it um all right look what we’ll talk more about it you’re right we’ll go

back more about that let’s you got the pfl here tonight we got the pfl it is

the playoffs as they call it and this is to go into I think their next show isn’t until November though but that would be

their their Championship run with their million dollar payoffs and stuff but you got the main event is obviously it was

kind of set up a little bit people I know people were upset about it I wasn’t on honestly but they they took points

away from a fighter based upon the performance which made Shane Burgos who they had brought in as knowing one of

their you know main attractions uh for the new signings and uh he lost his first fight to Olivier Obin Mercier you

know got a very tough win against a tough young opponent from Japan and then they put him into the finals against the

number one seed in clay Collard against Shane Burgos who’s the number four seed

but this is a great fight Johnny’s this is a fight you want to watch just hear what you just did for about a minute and

20 seconds that’s why [ __ ] people don’t watch the pfl it was way too [ __ ] much to describe

how these guys got into the into the playoffs it was just too much what I’m sorry the best fighter needs to get into

the playoffs and the guy who won and the other best fighters get in the playoffs and they need to fight that’s what it needs to happen now the

other two the ones it that basically when people it’s so funny because when we talked to I I did that whole nation

yeah he’s the one that got uh do you remember I did that I did I did something talking about how Fighters

were skewing uh they could potentially skew um their their opponents and they could

find ways to Buck the system with the betting lines and all this other stuff and this is exactly what I’m talking

about that’s exactly what happened you had two friends that train together didn’t want to hurt each other you know

and I don’t know if they rock paper scissors or scissors for someone to win but whatever happened happened and the

pfl caught on to it and they heard about it and they realized it and I’m glad they did something about it look you get

paid to fight you don’t get played to play grab ass out there you get paid to fight so the fight didn’t happen

basically if I didn’t happen well the fight happened but it didn’t happen it

wasn’t the fight it was and this this is my problem with it and this is where I told you know there was people that called me about and stuff and talking

about I said look at the pfl is the promotion they’re paying those guys to

fight those guys are making money and the way they make that money is by fighting and what they are doing when

they say okay I’ll accept that fight is they’re saying I will fight to the best of my ability

and you’ve got to say neither guy did neither guy did well you could tell it

just wasn’t their their they were not going after each other with an intensity

that you could buy into yeah it’s um it’s in your contract that it says you

will fight you will fight pretty much to the best of your for the best of your ability it says something else there’s a

different verbiage for it but yeah but yeah it basically says that and that you will give it your all and you know do

whatever you can to finish the fight whatever it is has it has all these little breakdowns in it what’s the promoter paying for

no I I understand exactly where you’re coming from in this situation and scenario though Shane Burgos he’s the

beneficiary of it all of the situation but yeah both those Fighters I wouldn’t have them on my phone in my organization

anymore if if well if you’re gonna do that if you’re gonna say hey I’m taking the

other then I’m gonna cut you there’s because I’m not gonna I’m not gonna sit there and say that oh it’s okay and I

believe that you’ll never do it again I can’t I I can’t trust that you’re gonna always give it your best performance

yeah there’s just no way and with with the way you can bet on fights now

you’re gonna see more of this and I I just I I get nervous especially

in the point system type tournament not the best Fighter moves on the guy who wins moves I think it’s not that you’re

not getting the best of the person who who won the fight you’re getting the one that won the fight but they did it and

they worked together and team together these are things that people should be concerned about um I know the promotions are I know the

betting I know the betting organizations are I’m sure the commissions are all of these things I mean it’s very concerning

and so I’m glad they did something but they got to do more I mean I’m personally like they need to be cut like

what cut release what’s that oh you’re saying I think I’m gonna be fine also too by by the commissions

sorry you’re you you’re you’re you’re um you’re fixing a fight

you fit I can tell you I’m being honest what I have I’ve had people from commissions so executive

directors call me and say uh I don’t think it’s right that they took him out of that spot you know or I you know I

look at it and yes you know look at their whole thing is it’s a point system and so with that point system

you know those guys knew hey if I get the points I’m in the playoffs and now you’re taking them out that’s just not right and I go whoa whoa whoa stop I go

the pfl is a promotion and and in in their promotion they have

a tournament and they look at and say if you don’t perform to the desired level to be part of that

tournament I could take you out and put somebody in that wants to be part of that tournament and wants to give the

performance you know that we’re expecting I go so I don’t see where the problem is there’s

nothing that says oh I’ve got to give you points I said they have a point system I understand

that but they’re a promoter and the promotion wants to put on the fights that people want to see because that’s

how they make money yeah just makes sense yeah like I said

um the commissions need to take um there needs to be harsher penalties by the commissions especially now that

gambling’s involved it’s going to be more problems later on down the line they’re going to find ways to Buck the

system and I’m sure this is what happens what you’re talking about is the whole thing that happened

with the UFC yeah that’s why the UFC took it so seriously yeah you got to let them go hate to say that but you got to

I mean it’s it’s a look maybe bring them back yeah I don’t know how old they are but you know maybe bring them back in a

year or two you know say look first time slap on the wrist we suspended you or we kicked you out of the organization for a

year or two whatever it is if you’re still around hopefully both of them both of those guys both of them have been

tournament champions both of them nope I’m not doing that man

if I’m a promoter if I’m somebody that is paying you guys a substantial amount

of money to go out there and performance to the entertainment business I’m not putting up with that and the commission shouldn’t be allowing it

um there should be partial penalties there should have been a six month suspension maybe even a year-long

suspension you cannot mess around now that there’s gambling involved

just my personal all right then tell me what is your personal opinion what is

your take on the match-up between clay Collard I’m sorry and Shane Burger you

know it’s funny that I mean they’re basically stylistically they’re very similar both are good on the feet clay color I think

is a little bit better of the grappler but I don’t think clay can get him down I don’t think Clay’s gonna waste a lot

of energy to get him down so I look at the two of these guys really throwing the exchanges but I also think that clay

color is going to go to the body a lot more he’s gonna hit to the top he’ll go back to the body and uh he’ll come back up

top now look I also believe that Shea but Burgos has got the power yeah he’s got the power but John

even though he has the power he’s up at 155. he is a better fighter at 145 he’s a monster at 145. he doesn’t want to

make that weight anymore and I think he matches up a lot better with the guys at 145. I mean the guys that I see down

there are 145. you know me wrong they’re all studs you got um Chris Wade you got

uh Bubba you’ve got uh the the the uh yeah we got potato no what about banana

dude that kid is freaking good and you’ve got a uh

yeah so you’ve got him um you’ve got that whole crew the one that gives the hardest time is move it obviously

because of the wrestling in the pit the pedigree there the explosiveness but the other three will stand in trade and

we’ll try to take him down and try to put pressure on him but that they make for great fights because they will all stand a little bit before they wrestle

um Shane is the I think Shane is the better fighter at 145. now this is a 155 clay collar to me is just someone that

he can take the damage he can take the big shots and he can still walk forward and he can make you pay and Shane and

Shane Burgers has been known to get tired he doesn’t push a fast action-paced fight and when he does he slows down so much now that was because

he cut down to 45. now it’s a 55 but he’s still because he’s got so much power because he’s he’s kind of he’s

pretty explosive those things tend to tend to slow you down as the fight goes on he throws everything with bad

intentions when you throw bad intentions you tend to slow down as the fight goes on click hard he throws things with bad

intentions but he does it in spurts a little bit like how the Diaz brothers do okay they touch touch

to the body back up to the head they then he knows exactly what he’s doing

um in terms of conserving the energy when he needs to and and having more output when he needs to he’s a fantastic

fighter man I I didn’t I wasn’t a Believer until I saw him you know put it

on a pedest then when I saw him putting on pedals like oh wow okay okay you’re

good and then I saw his next couple performances I’m like wow you you are really good it’s not just a one-time thing where pet is to the fire under

your ass and uh you know you got it done no you’re good you’re really good yeah and so um yeah when I look at these guys

I look at them like I’m gonna go more with Clay because clay at 155 is a natural 155 pounder Shane Burgos is a 55

pounder he’s a big guy I get it yeah but I just don’t see he hasn’t quite caught

on to carrying the weight as well as someone like clay who’s fought us pretty much his whole career at 55. Shane’s now

getting into 55 and he’s fighting there I just think that clay is used to taking more damage there uh Shane doesn’t have

a lot of out as much output as the round as the fight goes on Emma lean more towards clay

I can’t blame you I think it’s a fantastic I you know when we look at matchups and you know in the pfl and

some of them I look at it and I’m being honest last week you know I looked and said that’s not a good answer I’ve

already seen that fight and this fighter is going to walk through that fighter this one I can’t tell you this has got

Shane Burgos can absolutely win this fight the number four can beat the number one but the number one can

definitely beat the number four too and it’s just a matter of who’s able to fight at the range that they’re

comfortable at can Shane Burgos land counters when caller comes in and

college is always going to leave he likes to exit with body shots he’s gonna put those to the body just to you know

start trying to punch a hole in your gas tank and if he’s able to land enough it will do that because if there’s one

thing that I’ve seen out of Burgos and it may be that I saw it more at 1 45 than I I have seen it at 155 is that

he can start to lose that energy and get tired now like I said I’ve seen it more

at 145 I really haven’t seen him lose any energy at uh 55 I thought his fight

with oam the way that he um he fought that he showed that he was in great

shape you know he was in it the whole time but this is a great matchup I really I cannot wait for this fight this

is one of those ones I’m looking forward to watching that I mean I gotta agree with you I I ca look I caught I said

clay color to win but I gotta be honest it’s a 50 50 fight like you said it’s it’s a toss-up fight I just look at what

Clay’s been able to do at 55 and Shane not having quite the success in the pfl

at 55 is but as that goes for all the guys that have come over from the UFC they haven’t had success at all but well

and this you know and I’ve heard people talking and you know I had some guys you know talk to me about the fight and they

go well you know but Burgos man Burgos was he was you know Burgos Burgos is someone the UFC should never let go I

said yeah I agree with you but they did and he’s making more money and I I think he did the right thing you know and uh

they go but you know you know Collard is you know he’s good but I know college was in the UFC before Burgos what the

[ __ ] are you talking about you know it’s like don’t sit there and say well one’s a one’s a UFC fighter no neither guy is

a UFC fighter they’re MMA fighters who are fighting in the pfl and the pfl has two guys in this fight in this matchup

that are both outstanding and both can win yeah I just I look at the guys that have come over from the UFC as of

recently and none of them have had hacked success none of them it’s not easy I get it today it’s that

whole thing everyone thinks there’s so wow they’re so you know I look I agree

the UFC does an unbelievable job marketing well you know there’s a lot of people out there that look and say man

you know that they’re the best of the best and they do have some of the best fighters there are but there are those

guys outside of the UFC they’re some of the best fighters in the world too and

can match up with anything we can say that all day long but let’s I mean the reality is that sometimes when Fighters leave the UFC they feel like they’re

fighting guys that are on their level and they just don’t they don’t fight well yeah but they don’t fight well they

believe that like oh I’m better than you guys because I was at the UFC for so long that’s not the reality is is that

no the guys that they’re fighting they’re they’re making their way up and they’re just and they want to prove oh I

want to prove to you the other thing but if you’ve seen guys that come over from other organizations into the UFC they have very similar problems in the

beginning you know you can look at guys that they didn’t have great performances uh in the in the UFC when they first

came over Shogun Hua being one of them uh Quentin Jackson didn’t have a great performance his first fight in the UFC

either I mean certain guys have come over well hold on okay well you’re just making a statement there who did he

fight in his first fight oh no no that’s right Marvin Eastman yo no you’re right it was Marvin because he had already had

a fight with Marvin Eastman and King of the cage long before and so that was a rematch

and Marvin Eastman if in all honesty when you’re looking he’s the perfect style to give Rampage problems because

he could throw the biggest problem is every time he tried to drop in weight his chin kind of went bad

no I get what you’re saying what I’m saying is when Fighters leave one organization to go to the other their

first couple fights in that new organization are not the best and when you have fighters from the UFC they go to another organization they almost

carry themselves as if like I’m I’m in the UFC I don’t need to worry about it I don’t need to you know I’m gonna win no

matter what and they get there and they don’t have success is because there’s tough Fighters everywhere we’ve said that I don’t know how many times they’re

gonna continue to be but it’s a mentality though also um you have like Shogun he came over I believe he lost his first fight in the

UFC I think it was to force yeah right Forest Griffin UFC 70s Clinton came over and he had a it wasn’t a super tough

fight but he wasn’t an easy fight against Marvin Eastman you know there’s there’s several guys Silva same thing

came over to the UFC tough fights like just they struggled they weren’t they weren’t as dominant as they were in

their their other organization you wanna know why because it doesn’t feel like home you got to get you got to get in there

you gotta there’s not that company is you really do feel like you’re fighting an enemy territory in Shane Burgers I

feel like he’s not he hasn’t figured it out yet he’s still trying to get in there he’s probably trying to figure out the people in the back who tell him hey

are you ready let’s go like let’s get moving you know like the Bert Watsons of the crew different people yeah you have

different people back there trying to tell you what to do and and push you around you’re like man I don’t know you what are you talking to me like this for

you know I mean like there’s a relationship you build with the people in the back um the refs that’s true sometimes the

refs are different certified certain refs only you know a lot of them work a lot all the other organizations I get it

but they lean towards one organization more often so you don’t see them as much in your organization if there’s another

event that same weekend which there is normally and so you tend to see the same

refs all the time now you go to that other promotion and now they’re the different refs the ones you don’t always see because there’s usually conflicting

uh you know uh fights you know scheduling for the for the fights there’s a lot of little things the

people that when you show up they pick you up at the airport the people that when you get to the uh to the office to

sign all the posters they’re different people now telling you what to do telling you where to go telling you do the interviews it’s just a relationship

you’ve got to build you got to start to make it feel like home and I feel like Shane he hasn’t been there quite long

enough it’s only been I think a year and just getting it getting it under him a little bit you don’t understand like

this is my home now that’s where I’m gonna be I’m making a ton more money it’s hard it’s hard to make that adjustment we haven’t seen the best

Shane burgers at 155. I’m hoping to see a lot better Shane Burgers now that he’s in the playoffs but clay Collard I think

I’m gonna give the S to because it is his home he feels comfortable there and he feels he is comfortable there no

doubt about it you’re right all right then in the co-main event we have the guy who was the champion and the guy who

beat Shane Burgos when he first came to the pfl in Olivier Oben Mercier going up

against Bruno Miranda and Bruno Miranda has been basically on fire for a little bit here he has been lighting people up

he’s been having really good performances but you really got to give it oam when he first went to the UFC was

he was all wrestling he was a wrestling based guy who would you know ground and pound was good but stand up it was

always the is he going to make it to to getting into the clinch to get the fight to the ground and now his stand-up man he

actually is landing good combinations he’s much smoother on his feet he moves laterally he does a lot of good things

and he’s been very successful you know since coming over to the pfl

I mean I’m trying to remember does he even have a loss in the pfl I think he

does does he who beat him I think Dave pull up his record real quick for me

please oh sorry I clicked him now you had it no that’s why I know but I

changed that okay there we go in the pfl oh yeah in the pfl he doesn’t interesting

undefeated in the pfl one two three four five six seven

eight eight in a row like I said he’s he’s really coming to his own

you know and you could take a look again he’s got a couple in here he’s got the you know the two that we talked about

that were season uh playoff winners and stuff as far as they won the titles in Schultz and man and

Theo you know got to win against marcine hell who is obviously Bellator and the

UFC fighter you know then he got Stevie Ray Shane Burgos

Anthony Romero he’s doing great I mean with him he’s got a big body frame for

the weight class um a lot of people wrestle really well he’s getting to understand what he needs

to do to faint the shots and let his hands go land the big shot if it doesn’t land then get right into the wrestling

smother the space almost like a Bernard Hopkins Bernard would throw his shots he’d be he’d be out of range and then he would

throw his shots and then he would just go right to the club smother smother you clinch you hold you I mean he made it

that’s why he fought for so long was he 51 years old by the time he retired because now he can get away with that he found his way to slip off get his head

offline you know and throw his big punches and then get into the clinch and hold you from there until the ref broke

you up he made a career off of it I think that with um oam same thing he’s

up but he’s falling a little he’s falling in love now a little bit with his power he knows he’s got power He’s Got The Knockout over Stephen Ray and

then he’s also got the knockout over Romero I mean he’s got power he understands he’s got power but it is all

set up at this wrestling he doesn’t utilize yeah it’s set up with his wrestling but his Resurgence because

look he was having problems in when he was in the UFC he just everyone knew how to beat him and for the most part just

started he was just in that downhill spiral of it just wasn’t working for him and his like his stand up in the last

you know two years it’s become way way more proficient way

more that he can rely on being on his feet and he’s not diving for takedowns like he did in the past

yeah I look at this matchup though even if he wins then I’m looking to see him fight clay

collard I mean that’s well you that’s because

you’re saying clay collar is going to be changed no what I’m saying though is I’ve already seen the chambers I’ve already seen the chamber yeah I’ve seen

how it went you want to see you want to see him fight that collar I mean I don’t want to see the same that’s the problem with that’s that’s another that’s one of

the other problems I have with the pfl format it’s the same guys it’s almost the same guy as every tournament give me

some new blood give me some new Fighters give me somebody new every time take the winner of it and give me three new or

four new or eight well I don’t know how many people eight new people whatever it is give me give me a new tournament

every single time give me the top two guys put them in there in the opposite ends of the bracket from last time the ones that are in the finals

and go from there don’t keep giving me the same same Fighters and that’s what I’m getting it’s hard to stay it’s hard

to stay um interested in what goes on when the point systems can dictate where where

you know the fighter who won actually lost you know and doesn’t get in with the fight of the loss and then actually

won another fight got a submission now he’s in automatically or she’s in automatically it’s just it’s a little frustrating I

look I I see the vision of where they’re trying to go with it yeah it’s just too hard to make it work

and make sense and I think Joe Rogan said it best if I give a little a little bit of advice to the PFO

get rid of that quirky ass system of all the numbers and the scoring this the

best fighter fights the best fighter and then you move on whoever wins moves on it’s pretty [ __ ] simple like it

don’t make it more complicated than this that’s really what it comes down to I want to see the best fighters fight the

best fighters I don’t want to see the guy who just skated by with the you know with a little bit of a win here in the

split decision come over the guy who come over the guy who went for the went for The Knockout and they got knocked

out himself like you know I don’t want to see I want to see the guy who went for it I want the guy who [ __ ] was

going balls deep in you know I agree so I want to see the guy going for it that’s exactly they got something they

do have something I just the scoring the point system thing is it’s hard to follow looking and for and the

supporters becoming more casual based there’s just so many fights and so many shows people just like they because

they’ve all become casuals you know and then uh I mean if you listen to them in our comment section they’re they’re all professionals but if you if you if you

get around them you understand how casual I don’t know yeah hold on it’s the one thing our last show we were

talking with uh about Bo nickel and his thing was he did make one great comment he said you know it’s the it’s the sport

with the people who think the the fans who think they know the most don’t know a damn thing about it so it’s the truth

it’s hilarious um no but look I love our listeners I love our listeners a lot because I know most of them are not casuals uh but if

you follow some of the if I go on to some of these other shows and I go to their comments there a lot of them are they’re casuals they’re all casuals we

we attract the hardcores John you and I that a baby those are the ones we want right oh man I’ll tell you what Carlos

Miranda has come in he’s shown that he’s a tough dude I don’t think that he has the technical ability to stay with

sadabusi unless he can get soda boot to the ground and that’s not an easy thing to do anymore Sodom who is really uh

upped his level as far as his uh defensive wrestling is damn good now and

he’s good at throwing upper guys that want to take him down he’s sitting there waiting for the knee waiting for the

uppercut he’s uh look there’s a reason why he won the you know the title last year and it’s

because he’s freaking good now and he’s got a he’s got that Josh Thompson

perfect Physique in that tall long and lanky man you talk about the perfect you

know build at 170 pounds he’s got it okay some Fighters have it man

um he’s got the ability to to um continue to be the champ he got the

ability to keep knocking people out he just gotta have a little more output got to believe in what he’s doing hit the

knock on him before before he won the title was that he just didn’t have enough output and when he did have people in

trouble he sat back because he was afraid of being taken down so with Miranda he’s just got to get into his face get into his grill make

him make a mistake give him a lot of faints do it if you’re Miranda try to

fight him a little bit how uh Sean O’Malley fought um

uh Sterling get into his grill get like uh get in the face fight a little bit

and then give him faints and then go ahead and react off of that you’ve got to do that you’ve got to make him you gotta make him react before see if he

throws something and then react off of that that’s exactly how sean O’Malley fight fought aljo he got him to react

waiting for him to go and then when he went he slept right outside the position and then landed a clean shot that’s what Miranda’s got to do to stop Lucy

now we’ll see true magma and magmed karamov taking on Solomon Renfrow

I feel bad for Solomon Renfro because that’s a tough fight uh Solomon’s Got Talent he’s a good

fight he’s good in the stand-up he’s got decent grappling I don’t know if it’s good enough to stop what uh karimoff

does basically when he gets into that clinch when Maga Med karimoff gets in the cliff he’s slick he does a lot of

nice little tiny things that end up putting you on your back because you’ve got to catch them right away and if you

don’t you’re falling behind and then he’s got you where you watch it he’s done you guys are just a very good

technician yeah I mean uh margarmed Maga mad care off he’s really good in terms

of mixing up his combinations mixing in his wrestling he’s got the ability just to be on top and do a ton of damage

there’s not much I can say about the fight I mean in terms of referral is just gonna have to to try to set the

tempo don’t let karimov dictate the pace of the fight it’s gonna be difficult it’s not easy to do this because Karam

off is not bad no he’s good he’s actually pretty damn good on his feet and um and then he knows how to mix in

the wrestling what he needs and when he gets on top he’s got good grinding pad he’s got great control he pushes you

where he wants you to push and then he goes and then he goes in and let’s go to the ground a pound so I’m looking at referral he’s really just got to make

sure he doesn’t he doesn’t um give him too much respect and he

tries to dictate the pace of the fight when he allows uh karimoff to go ahead and dictate the pace of the fight then

he’s fighting defensively you’ve got to be offensive against somebody like karimoff you’ve got to dictate everything yeah so I agree and John

the ollie wash kid man he’s back it’s gonna I’m sure it’s another amateur

fight uh staying as an amateur like they’ve got

their plans for this young man and hey I don’t have a problem with it you know

I I look at it the the if I was going to say that there’s one problem I have with it they take an amateur fight and they

stick it in this position on the main card and it’s a little awkward but you know I

understand that you know they’re looking and this is the grand the grandson of Muhammad Ali he is talented he’s got a

lot of you know uh speed he’s got power in his hands he’s working hard I know

people that are working with him they all talk about hey man he’s a good kid he you know he’s dedicated all this all

the things you want to hear I got nothing but compliments to say to him

it’s just that it’s an amateur fight and you know don’t expect that they’re going to put

him against someone that’s got a ton of talent because they are they want to work with them and they want him to be a

star of the future and that’s what they’re working towards so they got a little bit of a boxing you know MMA has

never had that whole boxing element of we’re gonna build you and we’re gonna just feed you these Fighters that we

know that you should be able to beat and beat pretty convincingly and we’re going to do this over time to get you to a

certain record and then we’ll start putting you against Talent you just don’t see that in MMA much this is kind

of what you’re seeing with Walsh I mean the only but it’s at the amateur level

the only promoter I’ve ever seen do that is really Scott Coker Scott did a little bit with Kung Lee

uh you know he did it yeah and see again Kung cut came from a

different background right he was a standout in what he did

and to come into MMA you got to give him some time to you know get used to the sport

that’s understandable yeah you did with AJ McKee

AJ McKee no he started him off let’s be honest yes but he saw him as an amateur and started him off as a pro and at

least Scott Coker is smart enough to say look I think you have talent let me

help me to help you is really what he’s doing he’s saying don’t I’m not going to

pay you a ton in the beginning because I’m going to give you opponents to try to get you comfortable in this

sport gets you comfortable under the lights do all these things I’m going to help build you during these fights we’re

going to hopefully get some you know some great footage of you and highlight real stuff and we’re going to be able to use it we’re going to just start

building that’s that is you know a coalition between the the fighter and the promoter

and it’s smart on both ends yeah I mean they did it for for a while with James Gallagher they did it with AJ McKee uh

they did it with Johnny eblin they’ve done it with they did it with Austin maniford I mean did it with Dawson

Dalton Ross they’ve done a lot of good Fighters I mean even Amazon you know Amazon had some good fights obviously a

lot of fights before he came but they they helped him up though also did they

yeah what tell me who

okay I’m trying to think of the fighters that Amazon faced yeah I mean I know he faced Dave Rickles okay kind of remains

forward in I I admit he was tailored made for him he faced Eric Silva tough

fight right Gerald Gerald Harris Gerald Harris a tough fight people people give Gerald Harris enough credit

he’s dude Gerald Harris is a tough son of a [ __ ] he has a hell of a record he hasn’t lost to a whole lot of people so

they gave Gerald Harris okay Eric Silva David Ed Ruth yeah Ed was still young in the sport

yeah but we’re talking about a three-time nc2a division one right Champion not just you know and so it’s

like no I get it yeah they helped and maybe uh I don’t know I look at like Gerald

Harris wasn’t isn’t he’s good he’s very good he was probably okay Gerald Harris

when he fought Amazon was probably I’m guessing 25 and 6 26 and seven somewhere in there

yeah not that’s not an easy he’s got power too Eric Silva’s chin wasn’t all that great

but you know uh talented uh you know Dave Rickles kind of Taylor Made for him uh Ed Ruth

was shocked me in that fight was he was able to take everyone down several times oh yeah yeah the mark lemonger fight

Grace stoppage that just showed you how good his wrestling is for a guy that

never right yeah if you didn’t believe in how good his wrestling was go up and watch the very first Logan story fight geez

it was crazy to watch anyways fantastic fighter all right uh let’s go ahead and uh let’s go to the is there any other

fights on this card you want to chat about I didn’t see anything else nah I think we’re good with that you know

there’s that’s good let’s go to the UFC card but everyone tune in Wednesday here

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at a place called Tyler Brothers Daryl Tyler runs Tyler Brothers he is a fantastic dude love the guy uh just a

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three times a year I go to that auction and they just had it and it seems like you know a lot of people come up and

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bit younger but you know a little bit more uh weathered but Farm stuff he

starts and he’s got this nice stitch pattern over his face right he says that’s what we said well what happened

he says oh man a tree and I went oh you got a tree story oh let me hear your tree story right he says he goes man he

says you know this tree giant treaty is split he goes and he says I want to have it on one end of it standing up one end

of it falls I go I got a story just like that right keep going right and he says he goes well there’s this one branch and

I go man this thing’s good it’s getting good too good because it’s the same thing hey he goes and I’m like I’m

looking at it he goes and it’s up there and I says if I get rid of that I said oh my God this is sounding exactly the

same right he goes well I I go up there and I cut it he goes and it goes forward

and bounces and he goes and it bounces back into my face he goes and just split me open he goes knock me over yeah he

goes that’s what happened with me he goes he said so I had to go to the hospital get off all cut up I said well I’m glad to know that I’m not the only

person that trees attack in Tennessee oh my gosh it’s gonna be like a

geriatrics convention like little Park everybody that’s been attacked by trees

and the [ __ ] tree wins every single time oh dude guys are cracking me up all right hey let’s get into the UFC what is

this what UFC what single Singapore Singapore this is not pay-per-view though right this is on a

Fight Pass no no no I’m not fight past uh please ABC it’s on ABC hello I think

it’s I think it was on something else because I think that was the whole yeah I could be wrong it’s on ESPN

don’t they normally run them simultaneously anyways ABC and ESPN Plus

I think they usually run them Side by they do I mean I think I’m thinking of another fight night card yeah this one’s ESPN

plus got it all right well hey let’s go ahead and jump in as one or there was one you got Max Holloway versus Korean zombie

let’s go John I you know I’m being honest this is one of those ones right I love Chan song

Zhang he’s a dynamite fighter but he is he’s reached his Peak and he’s overspeak

and uh he slowed down as a fighter he’s still a great Grappler but his stand-up has slowed down he

doesn’t uh he doesn’t create the same angles that he used to create with his footwork or he’s not catching guys in

the same thing and that’s in my opinion based on just speed uh he’s going up

against one of the best damn stand-up Fighters there is in the game Max Holloway is just a freaking animal when

it comes to the stand up I think this fight for the most part is going to end up in the stand-up position throughout

it the real question is you know with everything happening in Hawaii is that taking any attention away from Max

how’s he doing you know where where is his mind at and and things you know he’s

a professional so you know I have no doubts in him but I look at this fight

at one time this was an incredible fight where 50 50 I would

say it’s not 50 50 now Max Holloway is is by far the guy that should be the the

favorite in this I think uh the Korean zombie is going to be a big Underdog in this fight and uh it’s gonna be tough

for him to get a win yeah I’m looking at this fight I’m thinking to myself with Korean zombie he just can’t take the damage he used to take he doesn’t take

it as well as he used to take it uh he’s been in too many battles been in too many wars knocked down drag outs and uh

his fight with Volkman he just he just got punished the whole fight was punishment and uh I’m gonna be honest

this fight’s gonna be the exact same way he’s gonna just take nothing but punishment nothing but punishment and um

and with Max Max I agree with you in terms of we don’t know where his mindset is

but he’s a motivated son of a [ __ ] when it comes when it comes to things like this

yeah it comes to fight night he’s always fight night I believe that I believe that the Hawaiians man they’re proud

people they’re very proud people and uh but no Hawaiians are Fighters and

they’re Warriors and all the stuff that’s going on over there right now and you know and all the stuff that

Hawaiians are posting about you know the government the all they’re not happy at

all and I believe if I believe that he is someone that is he’s gonna make it very vocal

um and he wants to make sure he gets that microphone in front of him to say what he wants to say at the end

um now I I don’t know if it’s going to be positive or negative but I would imagine it’s going to be something along the lines of my people are hurting right

now and we need all the help we can get so please support us that says that’s what I see coming out of Max Holloway’s

mouth there might be some other stuff involved but he is a true um

genuine person when it comes to um him as a father him as a husband him

as a Hawaiian and uh if you guys can’t support him I can’t I can’t help you in this sport man this guy’s a [ __ ]

amazing person and so um I just think stylistically he’s a really bad matchup for Korean zombie the

speed his accuracy especially at this point in this movement and zombie just doesn’t take the punishment like he used

to but three or four years away I think it was three years away uh zombie had to join the military for yeah

it it ruined his career I wouldn’t say ruined he came back strong came back strong but he didn’t get better I

wouldn’t say it ruined his career but yeah it was a time away that he wasn’t getting progressing yeah and the game

just evolves you see that all right next fight I agree

Anthony Smith taking on Ryan’s band wait a second wait a second sorry I’m sorry to interrupt you John starting go back

go back to that fight John we we got to talk about this where does where does he go next with a win over Korean zombie

let’s be honest what who is it that you can say

who is it who is it in the featherweight division that

the UFC has signed that you would say is a favorite in beating

Max Holloway who did they just sign they just signed somebody didn’t they yeah who I don’t remember I can’t remember now

we’ve seen Arnold Allen face him and I I think Alan Arnold Allen is a fantastic

fighter but Max was able to shut him down in a lot

of ways and just prove that you got a ways to go there’s things that you got to change Calvin cater we watched that

fight Calvin cater showed you know how tough he is but there was a level difference there

Josh Emmett’s really not even in that now you know if I was gonna put anybody

against him at this point and say all right here it is you want another shot at volkanovsky

this is your chance to get it with a win and if the and if you can’t get the win

I’m gonna give it to this guy and that would be super yeah yeah but then do you really want to get

rid of your number one contender not not Max I’m saying you get rid of temporary because support is the only

guy that hasn’t really faced Volk or hasn’t lost to Max yeah but and that’s the whole point you

know you take a look in vulcanovsky I think is out for a little bit here right uh healing up so I’m not expecting him

to have a fight and you got to look and say well you know

Max is the is the the consensus number one in that weight class obviously vulcanovsky being

the champion has had three fights with him and he’s got three wins against him now the second one was super close

first one and the third one weren’t that close so maybe the fourth would be super close and we and look we we have seen

where we’ve had you know guys face off against each other four times and

usually they’re good fights so I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a good fight with volkanowskian and Holly it’s just a hard

sell It’s A Hard Sell but it’s if if you got Max Holloway

who else are you gonna put him against besides tapuria or going back to a championship fight

yeah I don’t know man I know I don’t know I mean be being honest he’s taking on

he’s a number one Josh I want you to think about this when you were number one and you were at a time

did you want to take on number eight no [ __ ] we’re not doing anything for you after I beat Nate I was number two or

three and they were trying to give me [ __ ] uh rustam kabuloff and I was like yeah go [ __ ] yourself

okay but why but why I had never heard of him I had never seen the guy fight I

didn’t know who he was no disrespect to him I know he’s a really tough fighter I just didn’t know who he was but but but

when you’re number one why is it you don’t want to fight number eight doesn’t do anything for you no it doesn’t no

you’re stuck here’s the thing though John you’re supposed to be there’s certain guys that I would have fought had they offered them to me but they

didn’t offer them to me like I would have fought a cowboy Cerrone and I don’t pedest with the champion at the time but there were certain guys that motivated

me because I just had so much respect for them there’s no disrespect sure I I was a fighter when I got to work

especially when I went back to this UFC the second time I was motivated by I was motivated by other Fighters it was hard

for me to get up out of bed go yeah that guy doesn’t really do it for me man and you could see it in some of my performances there was guys that should

have never been in the cage with me ever but for some reason we ended up going the full distance and there was guys that motivated the [ __ ] out of me and I

got him out of there in two rounds you know I mean like look there was no and no disrespect to this young man I love

this guy a lot he’s a [ __ ] great person his name fan I want the distance with him it was a one-sided fight but I

want the discipline the mic I just couldn’t get him out of there but there wasn’t a lot of motivation and trained as hard for him I was like yeah this guy’s not better than me on the ground

there’s no way he’s gonna outstrike me I’m faster than all these things but then guys it motivated me Dwayne Ludwig

how do I not get motivated for that guy kick your [ __ ] head off you know I mean like there’s there’s just things that you know and with him there was a

lot of extra motivation because my dad had passed 10 days before I woke up the morning of the fight sick as [ __ ] like

green [ __ ] coming out of my face it was just there was so much motivation in

that fight for me to get that win there was nothing that was going to stop me Fighters motive certain fights motivated

me I wanted to fight the best guys the guys are the biggest names and when I got to UFC they didn’t offer me that these guys like taporia if I’m if I’m

Max Holloway you got to give me the guy that you guys that you guys think is gonna beat me those are the guys that

motivate me tapori is the guy exactly but if I’m but if I’m sipporia knowing that you’ve Arnold Allen’s already lost

to Max uh Brian Ortega yair and Max have all lost to bulk it’s like why not just

put me in the title fight like if if I was listen you’re gonna have the same [ __ ] fight that no one gives a [ __ ]

about again but let’s be honest Max Holloway has beaten Jerry Rodriguez by Brian Ortega

yeah I know he beat him but I’m saying it was it was a it was a little shaky of a fight there light kicks yeah it was

pretty it was pretty clear it was but I mean yes it was your year had his moments but Max beat him he beat Brian

Ortega he beat Arnold Allen cater he’s gonna end up fighting you know Korean

zombie here you just look and you go yeah you know

it’s a it’s a tough road but that’s why I say I would you know if I don’t have

volcanovsky to fight someone like deporia then I’m gonna put him against Max Hollywood yeah the only guy that I

could see in that whole thing that I’m kind of interested in seeing where he goes is evil off is um see it I know

he’s got to work his way up and I’m not saying he should fight to Corey at all I’m not saying that but um watching evil

off against somebody maybe like a Josh Emmett maybe an Arnold Allen you know why not give him someone like a Brian

Ortega oh I would love to see that I agree um but you know I’m going to be honest

the if you recall ever lost last fight was Diego Lopez Lopez

that kid’s tough that kid that kid yeah and it’s it’s hard to sit there and to

say well Diego looks he he put evil off in a

lot of problems and then you watched him in his next fight you go that kid’s just good so you know it’s gonna I don’t know

where evil off is as far as you know he could have been taking you know back by not expecting someone to be as good as

as Diego was Diego’s good but you’re right avalov is a guy that you’re looking at where where’s he gonna fit in

but I would say with evil off I would put him against Calvin Gator all right

let’s see then we’re going to see you hopefully we’ll see if Max gets past uh Korean zombie maybe we’ll see the

temporary fight because I believe taporia said the only other guy I’ll find is Max Holloway that’s it which is smart he said I’ll

fight Volk yeah I want the title fight if it’s not volt then I want max if it’s not Max I’ll just wait

dumb the way but I understand this reasoning because there’s no one else really there up that in that division for him to fight if you go to Brian

Ortega Brian’s been out for a little bit you know you can see the Brian fighting him and Brian Brian threatens him a lot

in a lot of areas yeah so all right next fight yeah Anthony Smith going up against Ryan

Spann what do you think well Anthony Smith is uh somebody that’s got a little bit more cardio than Ryan’s

man I’m sorry man we don’t know I love Ryan

Spann I think he’s got all the athleticism and all the abilities but guess what he can’t seem to get past the

first round with a little bit more cardio I don’t know what it is John he just finds a way to exert himself too

much in the first round by the end of the first round or into the second round he’s a shell of a fighter it sucks

because you know he’s got the talent he’s got the talent he just doesn’t have he doesn’t have the cardio and Anthony

Smith is he can take a shot he can deliver shots he’s got power he’s pretty fast himself and I think on top he’s the

better fighter if the fight hits the ground if I hits the ground and Anthony Anthony Smith is in the top position I think

Ryan spans in trouble yeah but this is a it’s a good light heavyweight

matchup because they both I think that uh Anthony’s a little bit Slicker on the feet and I think Ryan’s fans got more

power you know when you look at them both but they both have their their strengths here but overall look at Anthony’s he’s

one of those guys man take a look at all those fights man he has got over 50 fights you know

I’ve been watching him for God knows how long I did I I think the first time I wrecked him was when he

fought Audra Gracie you know back in Strike Force

and uh that was a long time ago I didn’t even realize he was in Strike Force until we got to the UFC oh my God yeah

yeah yeah that was the one and only time at least like in strike force it might have been then

he was in Bellator fought a couple times yeah before she fought fight next fight down no no no

yeah they had a couple fights in Bellator and stuff and you know he’s got wins there he’s just been everywhere and

fought everybody you know take a look at some of the names on the list that you know he’s competed against he’s got a lot of names

and he’s he is he has definitely ducked nobody no he’s a gamer he’s a gamer

um how do you see that fight going

experience wise and exactly what you’re talking about I look at Anthony Smith as Anthony’s got

to get past the first round with him he’s got to you know make him work but

don’t take any big chances don’t put yourself in any kind of you know situations where you’re taking big shots you know

use your lateral movement and make him work in that first round once you get through the first round now you can open

up a little bit more and take the second and look at putting him away in the second to Third uh if you’re Ryan Spann

I want to go after him you know I gotta go after him hard and you know at this point he’s got the power to put

anybody away I don’t care who you are you get touched on the chin the right way you’re going to go out so I I look at Anthony in the long run if it goes

past the second round you know Anthony Smith is going to be my winner if it’s early I look more towards Ryan’s man got

it uh next fight man I think he has the potential to be fight of the night ah I think this could be a great fight

and the fact that like Giga is a dynamite stand-up fighter

obviously the ground is you know where he’s have he’s been working and stuff and getting better Alex caceres was

basically the same fighter just he didn’t have the power of the Giga did but when he first came in he was he was a dynamite stand-up very you know

exciting a lot of spinning attacks did a lot of you know crazy you know

you know double kicks and things like that and would get taken to the ground and submitted

well now he’s actually got pretty goddamn good wrestling defense and his

his ground game is not bad he actually uses it at times and and gets you know

guys in trouble on the ground so I look at this and you know Alex has

a lot more experience in MMA he doesn’t have more experience in fighting because Giga has a has a bunch of kickboxing

in the stand up I’ve got to give it to giga chikaze I think he’s just the the

better overall stand-up fighter but Alex carries a lot of movement and a lot of problems in range and getting to him but

I can see Alex Sarah is taking this fight to the ground and controlling him on the ground and getting the win yeah I’m actually because there’s I think

number 15 a gig is at like number nine I think or something even lower maybe even seven click on see where geek is out in

the rankings he’s nine and you’ve got 15 uh Alex caseras is at 15. I’m gonna go with

casares over this fight I think I think look on the feet I’m gonna lean towards Giga but the fact that because Sarah

with his footwork his movement the way he’s in and out he’s got he’s got long

limbs his ability to use he’s good at catching kicks he’s good at Sidekicks keeping the range in the distance

hitting the sidekick and then coming back with a combination and then going right into his takedowns he’s pretty

fast on his double legs and his takedowns if he gets to the body he jumps to the back really fast and where Giga Lacks it’s not it’s not even close

when it comes to the grappling Department Giga is just not good in the grappling you’re gonna look where Alex

caseros is just a way better Grappler on the feet casares can hang with them but

isn’t that funny that now you’re saying that Alex is serious dude when it comes to grappling I was serious is your man

here and you’re looking you’re going wow how time has yeah and it lets you know

that hey this young man has spent the right time getting better and making himself well around and I admire that

about him man his last loss was a submission to Chrome

Grace that’s Chrome Grace yeah dude there’s a difference yeah and the last Chrome Gracie we’ve seen is not the same

Pro Gracie we saw fight Alex um all right next is there any other fights

on this card you want to talk about look the car is not a very stacked car but it’s still a pretty good car there’s some there’s some catch me fights in

here you know they’re those stand out Aaron blanchfield against Talia Santos I

think is going to be a really good fight I think that’s a great match up there and uh it’s one of those ones where man

both of them have their strengths blancheville I think on the ground is is the superior Fighters Santos on the feet

of superior fighter so where where does the fight take place and then honestly

you know fight way down the list Chidi ninja kawani taking on Michael ohlchuk

that’s gonna be a good fight because olichek if if engine kawani is going to

win he’s going to win it in the first round and if if he doesn’t win the first round look out for oluchuk he’s gonna come get

him but it should be good I’m gonna say tafa and Porter someone’s getting knocked out I’m just gonna go out on a limb there and say that just you know I think

Porter if he’s if he has a chance to get to take down and get on top I think he’ll he’ll be with a ground a pound and get some get some work in there but I

think eventually this fight’s gonna end up back on the feet like it does every single round and someone’s gonna get knocked the [ __ ] out so it’s gonna it’s

gonna be uh it’s gonna be a good a good Display of Power I think in that fight especially if it gets into the second round when they sort of get tired

someone’s Chin’s gonna go all right hey that’s going to wrap up our UFC talk and uh Dave you got any news for us buddy

are we gonna talk yeah what do we got um do you wanna there’s a box in fact this weekend anything you want to say on the

box John’s got a little love for Dubai and usick go right ahead buddy yeah Daniel Dubois my man Alexander usick

he’s a stud that is for us WBO ibf WBA whatever else I think he’s got what

three of the titles so he uh look usick is a stud he’s fun to

watch He’s fast he’s got power but I’m being honest he shouldn’t be fighting down into why he should be

fighting Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder that’s the fights I want to see him in but that fight is uh August 26th so it’s

coming up I want to see him in Andy Ruiz I agree with you I think that would

actually be a really good fight yeah Andy Ruiz is you know got good hands

good movement man and he is slim down holy Jesus and he Ruiz is a new man yeah

I’m interested in seeing that fight we make for a fun fight I think I guess we’re gonna have to wait and see

some more hopefully hopefully we see that fight anyways all right well hey that’s gonna wrap up the boxing taco and let’s uh let’s go into some news what do

you got first Dave um I want to get your reaction to 20 Ferguson’s recent Tony Ferguson’s recent

at uh Twitter post or Instagram whatever um he said he said a bunch of things he

um and he listed them in like numerical order so I’ll read them off to you guys and then just you know you can get

comment on the ones that he misspelled your name yeah he sure did number one he

said and I’m the punch drunk one huh yeah yeah right

uh haven’t sparred good since Barboza or Thompson number two only time I find

myself in a cage is when I fight number three since pandemic none of this [ __ ] has been fun number four I used to smell

a lot more when I was competing number five being so busy taking care of others instead of myself number six is taken

absolutely everything to find myself happy number seven created boundaries between those who are bad for me

number eight structure myself so I don’t make the same mistakes number nine no I’m not retiring and [ __ ] those who

think I should number 10 I have work to do and I’m one pissed off MFR

um yeah not sparring is not a good thing like no he’s saying he hasn’t sparked good which he hasn’t had good sparring

he also says in there that he hasn’t been in the cage except for when he fights that’s another thing that’s not good those are all things that you need

to have surrounding you look we spawned in a ring when at AKA in the beginning and then you start realizing when you

Spar in a cage how much difference how much of a difference it makes because there’s nowhere your butt can’t scoot

out you can’t defend takedowns as easy you know it’s it’s more difficult it’s more difficult to defend the takedowns

Against the Cage as it is against the rose because now I can just sit on the rope and you can’t really get me I can kind of grab the Rope a little bit stop

you from taking me down with my elbow armpit whatever all those things there’s

things that you have to put yourself into these situations on a daily basis so when you get in there just come

second to none you just you’re it’s just muscle memory um you know the pandemic you know none

of this shit’s been fun since the pandemic no you know like he hasn’t won since the past yeah of course it hasn’t been that’s the thing is that

I’ve said this I don’t know how many times winning solves everything solves your problems at home solves the solves

your relationship problem solves solves your coaches problems it solves your mental problems it solves all that [ __ ]

and it’s it’s not easy when you when I lost when I lost two in a row

I had never lost two in a row I was like what the hell is going on it just it just baffled me it baffled the [ __ ] out

of me but then when I lost three and a lot my third one was to him my mentality was way different man I was like [ __ ]

it’s time to go I just lost three fights in a row you’re three like you’re thinking yourself

three fights this guy’s lost five or six in a row seven I think it’s six right it’s just

it’s not winning makes you feel like you’re

unstoppable and this sport like every sport is about confidence

six six yeah and so go back to his list please and um

you need that confidence that confidence is what gets you through the next fight which gets you which get makes you want

to push a little bit harder when you feel like you might be behind on the on the judge’s cards

he doesn’t have that right now and it’s not I’m not knocking him man like I said this I I continue to say this

he is when he started his losing streak was it Justin Oliveira and vanillaichi was it

yeah I mean like it was gaichi Oliveira and banil he was the same age that I was when he beat me

it’s it’s just it’s father time man there’s nothing there’s nothing I can tell you there’s nothing I like Tony a

lot Tony’s gonna probably take him up Tony doesn’t take his fence to whatever it is I’m saying because he’s he’s already come out publicly and said

things about me too like oh you’re just mad because I beat you up I pieced you up

you can say what you want man things like that don’t bother me I’m just talking realities and I had a nice I had

a nice long look in the mirror with myself after I lost to him it was like you need to figure out what you want to

do in life because it’s coming to an end real quick I didn’t think it was coming to an end just went the distance in a

split decision lost to Benson Henderson who was the Champ for a long time you know was supposed to fight Pettis for

the title then lost a very narrow Split Decision lost to Bobby green who I shouldn’t have lost to I was out there

[ __ ] lollygagging then I got destroyed by Tony Ferguson it was like a mental it was a mental

thing yeah the other two fights I came up short no big deal this guy can’t do anything to me [ __ ] he proved me wrong

there’s just a mentality just the mentality was different but then I got I went I went home I was like three in a

row you just you have to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror and go this is coming to an end real quick

it’s going to come sooner than you think and if not if it doesn’t come to an end real quick there’s a there’s a hole and you’ll

notice it within a couple years of you being retired and I’m do I’m saying this directly to Tony

is that you’re going to notice things in your brain you’re going to notice things in your the way you talk to people you’re going to notice things in the way

you the way you talk to your wife the way you talk to your kids the way you the way you handle yourself

and you need to have a reality check I can’t even explain it you have to

understand how to reel it in because you’re the only one in charge of your mentality and your and your body

language and the words that come out of your mouth that can affect your relationships with everyone and it’s it’s a I’ve had these

conversations with myself a lot you know because there’s times where words come out of your mouth and it’s you don’t

realize it and so I get nervous for him watching him take these else

so it becomes become a little emotional it’s it’s a little [ __ ] up but I care

for the guys I care for all these Fighters it’s the truth yeah and the and it’s it’s people have no concept

of how lonely it gets it’s lonely when it’s

you know when you’re winning Josh everyone wants to be around you everyone wants you know oh you do this do that

when you’re losing there’s still the people that want to be around you and they’re still the people that you know are there for you but they just

they don’t know how to communicate and you know make things better for you so a lot of

times they’ll hang back because I just I’ll just give them the space and the space is basically the

last thing you need at this point with some of them and it’s a matter of like I said I love Tony I’ve known Tony for a

long time he’s a hell of a [ __ ] athlete he’s a hell of a fighter

I don’t know if he doesn’t want to retire that’s okay I understand that

but there comes a point you know what are you gonna do here

you know it’s what are you gonna do to change this up because really now it’s come to the point of

you know they’re it’s they’ve not given him easy opponents in anybody no

none of them you know when you take a look at you know obviously the gaichi was for the interim Championship uh to

then fight Habib and so that didn’t work out and then Charles Oliveira becomes the champ you know and then he fights

pineal a tough goddamn fighter he fights Michael Chandler you know Nathan is

Bobby green you know so who are we going to say is the easiest fight there Bobby green that ain’t an easy fight for

nobody Bobby green is a pain in the ass so I I sat there before and I thought based

upon pay the UFC might say you know we’re gonna we’re gonna let him go but they haven’t

done that and that’s you know hats off to him for not doing that and give him fights but I think it it comes down to

that it’s they’re not gonna this is the same thing that happened with BJ and when you know I did BJ’s fight against

wasn’t his last fight but it was his fight against yair Rodriguez and I did I’m being honest you know I

did not want to rough the fight because I knew what was going to happen and I loved BJ as a fighter I love him

as a person and I knew that this is just a bad fight for him this kid is too fast

too good now for what BJ is now and I and I asked you know I said why

are you doing that why are you [ __ ] putting BJ against this young kid and stuff I go you know what’s gonna happen

I know what’s gonna happen and he goes yeah John I do know what’s gonna happen he goes but he makes a lot of money and

I can’t give him somebody that he can just beat because then he just wants another fight and more money so he’s going to have to earn that money

and I was like yeah fighting sucks it’s just you know but he

I I understood it I was like okay you know I get it but man it just sucks and and Tony’s in that position he’s got to

fight people that are good and I don’t think I don’t think he wants to find anybody that’s not good but he’s gonna

have to figure this out you know well I can that that whole that whole

thing that whole Rundown Josh is what it’s 10 years off his life

well it’s and and it’s it’s one of those I don’t know what to do well here’s the

thing though John is the Justin Gates you find that Charles Oliveira fight

those two fights alone I can and I speak from experience because it happened to me with him at that age the damage he

took in that gaichi fight he changes you changes your body it changes the way you

think I’m the first one to tell people that all the time I said look you can’t crash that car like that you do that a

couple of times it’s not the same car it’s not even so much a couple of times it works it’s sometimes just one time

and at the age that he was at I believe he was 36 37 at the time of the gaichi fight it it’s a

you’re not the same and after the Tony thought I was I was never the same

I never fought the same after that I fought more conservative I didn’t I was I was always a step behind

um I was fighting guys you know when I fought Paulo Villas like a talented young man 11-1 I think it was his record

but I mean he should have never even got to the second round with me but it was one of those fights I was more concerned

about getting hit by him because he was younger and he had power and he was short in stock and all those things that

I kind of were like man I get hit by this guy could be over it’s it’s just I dug deep in the Tony

Ferguson fight as deep as I [ __ ] could still be there to finish the fight I

just I never wanted to quit that second round was was brutal it was brutal tough

and I I tell this story it’s in it’s probably was one of my most viewed shows

um that I did back before you and I joined is um I was in the back of that

for about probably 45 minutes to an hour shivering in the shower and the shower

was on hot steam water and my body was shivering I couldn’t get my I couldn’t control myself I was shivering so much I

lost so much blood my body was in shock you know and um it took me a long time you know that

night to actually get my body to stop shivering I’d say it took me probably about two hours three hours for my body not to shiver that’s

what’s on that sweaters on we were in San Diego by the way the [ __ ] yeah it was cold weather was nice

um it wasn’t until I got like probably two or three drinks in me that I read that my body stopped shivering you know

it’s just you’re not the same fighter I think those fights from the Justin gaichi and the Charles Oliveira but Neil

Darius Chandler The Knockout he took against Chandler like those fights right there that that kind of knockout is huge

yeah like I mean I’ve seen guys in the gym got knocked out very similarly and

with shin pads on and with headgear on and all that and they were never the

same ever again ever again um look I’m not saying he should retire

if you don’t want to retire cool do what you want but you’ve got to look like I said you got to take a good look in the

mirror and just realize that even at 40 years old 41 years old

I said this on Rogan’s show when I was on there if you live another 40 years think about you have a home of the life ahead of you

that’s right what are you gonna [ __ ] do you got to start thinking about that now your kid your kids like he’s got

young kids they’re not going to get to College until you’re 60. that goes through my mind every single

time John like the kids will your kids won’t even get to College until you’re 60 years old or 58 that money that you

made through your career is gone it ain’t there what else are you gonna

do you imagine how much money you spent just just to get to where you’re at

how much money you’re not making the money you’re making during that year those years after you retire you’re not

making any of that it’s gonna go fast it’s gonna go real fast and so as much as I care and I want the

best for him and I have no ill will towards Tony this is the fight game man this is the game I I admire him a lot

for what he’s done in his career he I think he’s chasing this is my own this is my own thought John he’s chasing that

fight that never happened against Habib he thinks it’s gonna he I and I’m not saying he’s trying to get the heavy

fight I’m saying that he’s chasing that one big fight he never got it he was

always right there he never got the one big fight he never got to fight Conor he never got to fight Habib he never got

the fight that won the the fight because that that Habib fight was there five

curse five times I mean you talk about a cursed fight you’re right that is

exactly what it was I mean he Tony blew out his knee doing media the week before that fight

unbelievable that wasn’t the week before it was the week up it was on Thursday Wednesday Wednesday or Thursday yeah I

have I have the tickets for the fight because I was going freaking crazy I have the tickets to the fight because I

was going yeah they’re like the black like card uh

plastic like black silhouette with gold on it yeah it was a big deal nope

anyways uh him and uh him and Connor got into it also Dave you have that

yeah so Connor uh tweets in response to that message Connor tweets I’m gonna end

you badly I’ve not forgotten but then also Tony responds back too

oh what did he say yeah I finally got your business what does he mean what does he mean he’s not forgot

what was the the yeah I I didn’t actually know that and that reference

there uh Tony response saying ah there’s my [ __ ] took a few to get your attention a remember when you used to

work for me and I fired your ass for not doing your job when you’re done signing your legal issues saying on the darling

yo Audi used to manage Tony I believe wasn’t it Audi I think uh I believe that

he was managed by Paradigm for a second he looked that up oh look last time I said something about Audi it wasn’t true

he got all he got it got all the set of me but I believe Tony they can’t say the

wrong stuff to leave I believe Tony was managed by Paradigm at the and he ended up leaving I don’t know just type in

Tony Ferguson manage my Paradigm Sports yeah yeah Tony Ferguson responded after

this is from 2022 accused uh Conor accused him of uh constantly changing

management which is why Paradigm no longer represents him so maybe at one time he did something along those lines

yeah yep I don’t know hey is I just want him

there but they’re both I want him to have they’re both in that position though yeah yeah I want him to have a good life I want yeah exactly I’m not

worried about Tony’s career I’m worried about I want Tony just to have you know there comes that point you know

and you said it and I agree with you that you know you got to give up your old life to start your

new one and then comes that point you got to figure out when that point is going to be that you’re going to start your new life and it’s not an easy thing to give up

your old life because it’s what you know but there’s so many things out there for Tony yeah so many things and Tony takes

the same work ethic that he’s had in fighting and puts it to

whatever he decides it’s always going to be a success yeah

no I know he just gotta have the same type of motivation he did in fighting to do anything else that’s it

all right next to what else you got first Dave all right we find out today uh Tuesday

that Mike Perry is the backup player for Logan Paul hell of a backup fighter I love that

I mean look look now Logan better pay Dylan not to [ __ ] I mean I’m like Dylan

man step aside dog let uh let Platinum Mike Perry step up in there Mike Perry I

think Knox [ __ ] Logan Paul out Mike Perry is a dog yeah Mike Perry is just a

Mike Perry’s one of those guys you know do you remember a guy named Tex Cobb

Randall Tex Cobb he fought Larry Holmes for the heavyweight champion believe so yeah he played football I want to say it

was that maybe it was Texas not Texas Texas Tech but he was played football

and then he became a professional boxer and he was also an actor but man he

could take a shot and he would just keep walking forward and he was Randall text Cobb was the the epitome of

the guy that you know you’ve had those guys that you know you could say in sparring but you’ve been in a fight you

hit the guy with everything you have it’s a perfect shot and they just go yeah and they come forward and you go ah

[ __ ] yeah That’s Mike Perry That’s What I Love About It Mike Perry’s got that just dog in him I

think I couldn’t ask for a better backup fighter I mean personally you know he’s gonna come to fight you know he’s going

to be there and you got to get me ready you got to give it up to bkfc that they’re allowing him to do it yeah I love that I love that about them perfect

yeah there was a lot of talk that Rocco was going to end up fighting uh Logan Paul also in a boxing match we’ll see if

that ever pans out for afterwards there was uh hey there was something else that I sent you Dave

uh yeah no no not that not that pull that up last um there’s another yeah there was

another thing that I said I wanted I think I sent you it was the thing with um Juliana Pena

Juliana yeah her and the oh maybe I didn’t send it to you damn it look it up

talking about because her and uh Bueno Silva they got into it well so Bueno

Silva’s gonna have problems right now yeah yeah well let’s talk about that too buenosovo tested positive for

performance enhancing drug which apparently lines up with her ADHD medication I’m I’m just saying it’s it’s

called the performance dancing drug am I right okay but it lines up but then you have Julianna Pena coming out

calling her the chitara the chitara living up to her nickname

back to being a curtain jerker on the Apex and can go and and there you go you might you fought you fought two 41 year

olds this year and you had to cheat in order to get it done can’t pass a drug test keep my name out of your mouth you

dumb broad she’s [ __ ] well Juliana Payne is [ __ ]

Juliana Pena first off Julia Juliana Pena has a very sharp tongue it is razor

sharp and she goes down to you she’s gonna say whatever the hell she wants but you know look

I don’t I don’t know what and and this is where you know there is a question when you’re talking about Bueno Silva

you’re saying she said look I I took this medication no doubt about it it’s prescribed to me it’s for ADHD

um I normally I stop it the week of you know the fight and that seems to have

worked in the past it didn’t work this time okay I want to know what does that drug that

she’s taking do to to enhance your performance does it

you know and this and the reason why I’m saying that in in that fashion Josh is you know everything that they have as a

performance enhancer because they have marijuana as a performance enhancer I’m sorry it’s not a performance yes I thought

they removed it there are plenty of places where Texas

okay you can’t get caught with marijuana performance answer and so

I’m not saying what she did you know is good or anything like that but I want to

know exactly what does that drug that she’s taking do to enhance your performance that’s my question

I don’t know I want to know can you imagine if Juliana Pena was your wife or your

girlfriend she would [ __ ] verbally abuse you and then after she verbally

abused the [ __ ] out of you she would beat the [ __ ] out of you probably with the bloody end of your dick

[Laughter] you were talking about chimpanzees before ripping something off well you

could have a girlfriend that could do that or a wife can you you better be a fighter to deal

with her she is her husband’s a Chicago Police he better be he better have a badge and a gun to protect him he’s got

a gun hahaha she is [ __ ] ruthless with her tongue

man like I do she but you know what she’s awesome yeah she is yeah she really is she’s an awesome

person uh you know she just is she gonna tell you what she thinks yeah I love that I mean she’s out there

she’s out there making it work man I love it I love it um yeah it sucks because look no matter

what uh Bruno self was gonna end up getting a six month suspension no matter what

yeah no matter what so she’ll be out for a while I don’t know how that affects the rankings I don’t know how they’re gonna put it but but look the reason why

some of this stuff is uh test positive is that it helps mask the age it helps mask

um the use of other drugs other yeah yeah could be so I mean I don’t know could be

all right and the last thing you got for us Dave all right I got a picture from UFC this

past weekend of alderman Sterling and Sean uh sugar Shawn facing off and in

the middle is Bruce Buffer I know you don’t have a comment about the fight you have a comment about something yeah Bruce Buffer man I love you brother I

love you and I’ve always kind of admired your uh your dress code but brother that thing looks like John

said it looks like it came with batteries I’m sorry man I man I’m trying to I’m

trying to end these shows with a little bit of laughter and some fun that that is hilarious man like look John you

brought up a good point earlier when we were talking about it off air I if this was worn in December like it’s like the

Grinch yeah or Christmas I would be like you know what good call good call because it lights up like a Christmas

tree it looks like it comes in August in Boston Bruce I love you you are you are the man

you have I can be an incredible career and you are a classy dude that usually dresses to the nines

tell Kings Bay they need to reinstall the battery pack on that packet okay it

will change colors as he moved it was like the it was like a you know the paint jobs you get on the guy on the

kids that have the the the drift cars the 19 year olds that have the souped up Japanese drift cars and they’ve got that

paint that just changes that was that jacket and I was just like yeah you should have saved that when he moved it

moved with it and it lit up even more and it went dim and it was yeah but here’s the thing though as I’m looking

at this picture I just realized brother if you not watch the movie Boomerang you gotta coordinate you have a blue face

watch on with a red and green jacket come on brother you got to get a green

face watch get a green face Rolex it’s about coordinating you gotta you gotta coordinate but you got to coordinate dude now you’re making it hold it you’re

making the man actually have to go out and buy

I gotta say this is the last thing though is Bruce it might not be the batteries it’s just your persona that’s

lighting that is true that is okay brother I mean it pops really well with the Monster energy drinks in the

background you know it’s Shawn them out and Sean O’Malley’s hair look at that you know all of Sean’s

tattoos and his pants all work with it the pink characters I mean [ __ ] Sterling’s got green hair his his uh

braids were dyed that’s true good stuff man maybe he just coordinated with them interesting all right wait that’s gonna

wrap up our show today and I hope you guys enjoy it make sure you guys tune in for the pfl tonight don’t miss it tune

in watch pfl tonight John take us away clay cargo click cargo clay cargo

Collard clay Collard again Shane Burgos will be a fantastic fight so go and

watch it now we’ll see